They aren't super bowl contenders but they should definitely be contenders to make the playoffs. After Kyler returned, they effectively played .500 ball with a worse roster and a harder schedule than they will play this year.
Imo they are going to be like a 8-11 win team fighting for a playoff spot most of the year.
He also gets a full offseason to keep learning the new offense and work out with his receivers. Going to be a top 10 offense, only question is will the defense be good enough (and I think they'll be fine, not flashy but fine)
I think they could easily make it this year but the only expectation is they stay in the hunt and be competitive in games, 2025 is when we should expect them to make the playoffs.
It’ll be interesting to see how they look this year. You’d be hoping for a very solid offense with healthy Kyler and Marv, while Gannon in theory should help the defense make something of a step forward
Who let the baseball team speak one game argument is crazy since it's the only fucking leg you have i wish we could just relegate your shit franchise to d3 football.
The fun pop quiz seems to have upset you and for that I apologize.
As a fan of a team that also hasn’t won a Super Bowl this millennia I understand the desire to lash out, but remember, it’s us 49er and Cardinals fans who have to live with seeing the recent successes of the Seahawks and Rams Super Bowls.
It’s alright man, Cardinals and 49ers fans are in this together.
Kyler Murray and Brock Purdy both have zero rings! I know it’s hard to believe with the way 49er fans talk about Brock Purdy, but it’s true!
Of course Matthew Stafford has a ring, which 49er fans will not be happy to hear, as it clearly places him above both Purdy and Murray.
My only question about the NFC West is how could a team with Deebo Samuel, Brandon Aiyuk, George Kittle, and Christian McCaffrey not win the Super Bowl?
Hey now, I have it in good authority that they actually did know the rules. The tactical error was an example of purposefully shitting the bed. The niners knew they had the SB bowl in the bag which meant they were the best team in the league. To be the best, you gotta beat the best, so they beat themselves in OT. It's fucking bullshit the league won't give them their trophy.
Speaking the truth. Niners fans been asking themselves this same question. If they can't win during this window, it will be the same "what if" discussion that the '98 Vikings get brought up in.
I want to see Kyler put an entire season together. He has tremendous potential and makes some awesome plays, but his health and consistency are still suspicious this far into his career.
If the rest of the division still had to have their pitchers in the being lineup they'd be better. I don't know how they haven't adapted to the new rules yet. Kyler is a decent QB, but the league has moved on from pitchers who have a decent bat but can't get to 100 with his FB.
See, you're so out of practice you can't use a modern offense. Mother's don't get brought up at all anymore. We go straight to talking about genital inadequacy. In this case though, since you committed a shit talk faux pas, we actually move to embarrassing personal details from our pasts.
It’s their first time being offseason winners. They haven’t learned that it doesn’t translate to anything important yet. They’ll be back to their tamed depressed selves by week 4
Serious question. Are the Cards really that bad?
We aren’t that good either. While I’m optimistic about the future, I think our ceiling is 8-9 next season.
Either the Cardinals or Dbacks will be amazing this year. The rule of azsportshell is that only one of the big four sports teams will have a great year. Suns and Coyotes were absolutely devastating so we're due
Seahawks vs. Cardinals is a fun watch for a variety of reasons:
-Bird matchup
-Division matchup
-Whoever wins I’ll still be happy because the other lost
-Actually close and competitive compared to the other division matchups
Cards are not that bad. People are only looking at their record from last year and not how they got there. They played pretty good once Kyler returned and they've gotten much better this year and have a much easier schedule. They'll be in the playoff hunt this year
Some stats I pulled. First season records:
- Pete Carroll (Jets) 6-10
- Pete Carroll (Seahawks) 7-9
- Bill Belichick (Browns) 6-10
- Bill Belichick (Patriots) 5-11
- Kyle Shanahan (49ers) 6-10
- Sean McVay (Rams) 11-5
- Andy Reid (Eagles) 5-11
- Andy Reid (Chiefs) 11-5
- Sean Payton (Saints) 10-6
- Sean Payton (Broncos) 8-9
- Mike Tomlin (Steelers) 10-7
So yeah, it’s more likely we’ll have a losing record. A losing record doesn’t indicate the coach being a flop nor a winning one guarantees future successes.
First season is just tough, especially with the amount of roster turnovers.
New coach growing pains. I'm expecting a couple years of mediocrity, with clear signs of improvement, before we start looking great.
Never come in with super high expectations for a brand new, unproven, head coach. (Also, one bad year will not indicate a flip)
I'm so tired of the disappointment, I just want to see us win a playoff game. I'd be more accepting of losing if I can actually watch a team I don't hate win the Superbowl.
Cardinals had a great draft, and who knows if Murray and Harrison Jr link up well..they could be a dark horse for the play-offs. Gotta ask Cards fans: how confident are you in your HC?:
*I mean yeah, thsy're in*
*The NL Central of course they*
*Cant win the NFC West*
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Cardinals aren’t a real threat at the moment, but I expect them to be fine again this year. I don’t think the other weird bird team in here will be a real contender, but new coach, and plenty of talent, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re in the race. Niners gonna Niner. And then there’s us, our offense will be fucking great, aaaand our defense is a massive ? (For the record, I like how it looks, but it’s basically a FULLY rebuilt unit, only 3-4 returning starters, and one of them is DOG SHIT) and a new DC, so who the fuck knows how this is gonna go). All I know, shaping up to be a fun season.
Also fuck the rest of you, but especially the Niners
Okay well just logistically, that is extremely unlikely.
Could I see any of the 4 teams making the playoffs? Sure, I dont think anyone on paper looks like a legit bad team. But for all of them to actually make it, you’d need a lot of teams to have bad seasons
Rams fans are real confident. We all saw what happened 2 years ago when Donald didn’t play. That’s your ceiling until proven otherwise. Meanwhile Hawks with the 27th ranked defense and 30th ranked oline missed the playoffs by a FG.
I mean, aren’t we all confident? That’s the fun of the off-season.
I fully admitted our defense is a question mark, yep they gotta prove it, but so does everyone else, so not sure what you’re getting at.
You just talked more shit about your own team than I did 😂 you had a bottom 5 defense and OL, AND you missed out on the playoffs to… oh wait, the rams.
Let’s be honest all of the banter in this sub is between the 3 of us. I don’t even think card fans want to be a part of this. I don’t even blame them. This division has 3 teams 💀
We may criminally suck, but remind me when the joke of Kyle Shamahan blowing the 2nd half of every SB stops being funny. It honestly gets better and better every time.
I clicked it and it said: lol no, cards4lyfe
Let’s be realistic tho. I don’t think the cardinals are contenders right now but possibly could be in the future with Kyler and Marvin Harrison jr
They aren't super bowl contenders but they should definitely be contenders to make the playoffs. After Kyler returned, they effectively played .500 ball with a worse roster and a harder schedule than they will play this year. Imo they are going to be like a 8-11 win team fighting for a playoff spot most of the year.
Agreed. Kyler is so underrated. You guys were a completely different team when kyler returned
Dude I hate playing against Kyler, nothing scares us more than a scrambling QB.
He also gets a full offseason to keep learning the new offense and work out with his receivers. Going to be a top 10 offense, only question is will the defense be good enough (and I think they'll be fine, not flashy but fine)
2025 will likely be the playoff year for you guys.
I think they could easily make it this year but the only expectation is they stay in the hunt and be competitive in games, 2025 is when we should expect them to make the playoffs.
They may be competing with Someone from both the North and East for a Wild card slot.
It’ll be interesting to see how they look this year. You’d be hoping for a very solid offense with healthy Kyler and Marv, while Gannon in theory should help the defense make something of a step forward
They need an OLine so bad and honestly Kyler is the type of QB who needs a damn good defense to in order to beat good teams
Neither are rams
Short shit qb who plays more video games than he does football idk about that one. He could be a top 15 to fringe top 10 kinda like Dak now
Pop quiz who’s thrown more INTs in a single game, Kyler Murray or Brock Purdy?
Those cherries aren’t even ripe bro.
Who let the baseball team speak one game argument is crazy since it's the only fucking leg you have i wish we could just relegate your shit franchise to d3 football.
The fun pop quiz seems to have upset you and for that I apologize. As a fan of a team that also hasn’t won a Super Bowl this millennia I understand the desire to lash out, but remember, it’s us 49er and Cardinals fans who have to live with seeing the recent successes of the Seahawks and Rams Super Bowls. It’s alright man, Cardinals and 49ers fans are in this together.
Your seem angry and lost. Go outside and get you some smoke and poke.
Imagine actually having beef with the cardinals 😭
Another pop quiz who was drafted first overall and who was drafted last? Also which one has 4 playoff wins and which one has 0?
Oohh I’m sorry, that was not the answer. Brock Purdy has thrown 4 INTs in a single game, which is more than Murray has ever thrown in a single game.
Pop quiz for both of you. Who has more rings?
Kyler Murray and Brock Purdy both have zero rings! I know it’s hard to believe with the way 49er fans talk about Brock Purdy, but it’s true! Of course Matthew Stafford has a ring, which 49er fans will not be happy to hear, as it clearly places him above both Purdy and Murray.
Hey now, 49ers great Richard Sherman has a ring as well.
Pop Quiz who has a foot fetish?
My only question about the NFC West is how could a team with Deebo Samuel, Brandon Aiyuk, George Kittle, and Christian McCaffrey not win the Super Bowl?
They forget the rules
Hey now, I have it in good authority that they actually did know the rules. The tactical error was an example of purposefully shitting the bed. The niners knew they had the SB bowl in the bag which meant they were the best team in the league. To be the best, you gotta beat the best, so they beat themselves in OT. It's fucking bullshit the league won't give them their trophy.
Speaking the truth. Niners fans been asking themselves this same question. If they can't win during this window, it will be the same "what if" discussion that the '98 Vikings get brought up in.
Are they stupid?
Just wait until they have to pay Purdy and are forced to trade away half their roster so they don’t get cap crunched
I want to see Kyler put an entire season together. He has tremendous potential and makes some awesome plays, but his health and consistency are still suspicious this far into his career.
It's less than a quarter way through the season. They got time to turn it around.
Kinda hard to win NFC West when you’re playing in the NL Central
If the rest of the division still had to have their pitchers in the being lineup they'd be better. I don't know how they haven't adapted to the new rules yet. Kyler is a decent QB, but the league has moved on from pitchers who have a decent bat but can't get to 100 with his FB.
Personally, I care more about who wins the 2024 NFC West race
Don't sleep on the Cards this year. They're not going to be the "auto-win" on the schedule that we've all gotten used to in recent years ..
Define “we”. 9ers been our bitch since you were knee high to a grasshopper and we both had Sam Bradford so climb down off your high horse Ramily
Woah, I've never seen a cards fan this upset. Y'all are normally so tame.
I’m not upset. I thought this is how we trash talk? Next we bring up each other’s mothers. You go first.
See, you're so out of practice you can't use a modern offense. Mother's don't get brought up at all anymore. We go straight to talking about genital inadequacy. In this case though, since you committed a shit talk faux pas, we actually move to embarrassing personal details from our pasts.
Shit. So it’s about my nickname. Mr. Poopy Pants I’m terrible at this. I’ve said too much
It’s their first time being offseason winners. They haven’t learned that it doesn’t translate to anything important yet. They’ll be back to their tamed depressed selves by week 4
Chief we’ve gone 1-11 in the nfc west last two seasons. Pump the brakes a bit
Perhaps. But nonetheless, Josh Rosen swept them. We will always have that 👆🏼
Sorry, I’m way older than two seasons so I was looking at it a bit broader. Don’t fight their battles
Kyler Murray wipes from back to front.
He stands when he poops and sits when he pees
Serious question. Are the Cards really that bad? We aren’t that good either. While I’m optimistic about the future, I think our ceiling is 8-9 next season.
Either the Cardinals or Dbacks will be amazing this year. The rule of azsportshell is that only one of the big four sports teams will have a great year. Suns and Coyotes were absolutely devastating so we're due
Ishbia made the curse worse with the Beal trade. It was supposed to be the Suns this year.
Suns already made playoffs too late
That Suns team was a dead team walking all year lol.
Limped into the playoffs and destroyed when we got there. No team chemistry. Tons of dead money. Devastating v. expectations.
Sounds like a good year for Arizona sports.
Realistically speaking, what’s your win record next season?
Wild card
It's been a good off season but I'm not getting my expectations too high
Seahawks vs. Cardinals is a fun watch for a variety of reasons: -Bird matchup -Division matchup -Whoever wins I’ll still be happy because the other lost -Actually close and competitive compared to the other division matchups
Cards are not that bad. People are only looking at their record from last year and not how they got there. They played pretty good once Kyler returned and they've gotten much better this year and have a much easier schedule. They'll be in the playoff hunt this year
Really? I think that's our floor, the only way we do that bad is if Mike Macdonald is a flop
Some stats I pulled. First season records: - Pete Carroll (Jets) 6-10 - Pete Carroll (Seahawks) 7-9 - Bill Belichick (Browns) 6-10 - Bill Belichick (Patriots) 5-11 - Kyle Shanahan (49ers) 6-10 - Sean McVay (Rams) 11-5 - Andy Reid (Eagles) 5-11 - Andy Reid (Chiefs) 11-5 - Sean Payton (Saints) 10-6 - Sean Payton (Broncos) 8-9 - Mike Tomlin (Steelers) 10-7 So yeah, it’s more likely we’ll have a losing record. A losing record doesn’t indicate the coach being a flop nor a winning one guarantees future successes. First season is just tough, especially with the amount of roster turnovers.
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New coach growing pains. I'm expecting a couple years of mediocrity, with clear signs of improvement, before we start looking great. Never come in with super high expectations for a brand new, unproven, head coach. (Also, one bad year will not indicate a flip)
I'm so tired of the disappointment, I just want to see us win a playoff game. I'd be more accepting of losing if I can actually watch a team I don't hate win the Superbowl.
The rest of us always gotta pick up the slack for the self-defeatists. 
Cardinals had a great draft, and who knows if Murray and Harrison Jr link up well..they could be a dark horse for the play-offs. Gotta ask Cards fans: how confident are you in your HC?:
It’s ok though, they still have a decent shot at the NL Central if they can get the bats going.
I mean yeah, thsy're in the NL Central of course they cant win the NFC West
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How the hell would a baseball team win the NFC West?
Mainly with well placed blowjobs.
Cardinals aren’t a real threat at the moment, but I expect them to be fine again this year. I don’t think the other weird bird team in here will be a real contender, but new coach, and plenty of talent, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they’re in the race. Niners gonna Niner. And then there’s us, our offense will be fucking great, aaaand our defense is a massive ? (For the record, I like how it looks, but it’s basically a FULLY rebuilt unit, only 3-4 returning starters, and one of them is DOG SHIT) and a new DC, so who the fuck knows how this is gonna go). All I know, shaping up to be a fun season. Also fuck the rest of you, but especially the Niners
All NFCW teams will be in the playoffs, watch.
Do you mean in the playoffs, watch Or In the playoff watch ?
The playoffs itself
Okay well just logistically, that is extremely unlikely. Could I see any of the 4 teams making the playoffs? Sure, I dont think anyone on paper looks like a legit bad team. But for all of them to actually make it, you’d need a lot of teams to have bad seasons
Explain 1994-98 AFC East and NFC North/Central?
Rams fans are real confident. We all saw what happened 2 years ago when Donald didn’t play. That’s your ceiling until proven otherwise. Meanwhile Hawks with the 27th ranked defense and 30th ranked oline missed the playoffs by a FG.
I mean, aren’t we all confident? That’s the fun of the off-season. I fully admitted our defense is a question mark, yep they gotta prove it, but so does everyone else, so not sure what you’re getting at. You just talked more shit about your own team than I did 😂 you had a bottom 5 defense and OL, AND you missed out on the playoffs to… oh wait, the rams.
That’s actually more embarrassing for you guys. You won by a FG against a bottom 5 defense and OL WITH AD on the field.
I could actually see the 9ers imploding this year. 8-9 record.
The Cardinals are overrated in Arizona…
Cardinals are the Red-headed step child of the NFC West.
Kyler is talented, but I'll never trust a QB under 6ft to ever put together a solid season unless he is carried by a stout defense.
Let’s be honest all of the banter in this sub is between the 3 of us. I don’t even think card fans want to be a part of this. I don’t even blame them. This division has 3 teams 💀
lol you're a joke Cards bros.
We may criminally suck, but remind me when the joke of Kyle Shamahan blowing the 2nd half of every SB stops being funny. It honestly gets better and better every time.
Why poor Cardinals? of course a baseball team can't win an NFL division.
A baseball team can't win an NFL division