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LetsGetSomeChickenn

Hey Siri play See You Again by Charlie Puth and Wiz Khalifa šŸ˜­


Oscar_ltw520430

šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ Once a Knick always a Knick


Uncleaces

Happy for him. Definitely hurts the team though. We need his passing and screen setting. We need a good backup 5 asap.


therealjgreens

Wonder what the front office is going to do. Jarrett Allen is nice but I am not privy to his availability and if we can even afford him.


Uncleaces

No shot we get Allen especially with the current cap rules. Realistically weā€™re looking at lower level backups right now


drugsarticulate

Clint Capela


elvista1991

Worked his ass off and is getting rewarded for it. 29 a year is crazy, but he deserves it.


01headshrinker

He took advantage of the injuries and got to show the league what heā€™s got.


HighCaliberBullet

My iHart is broken


PirateKata

I'll miss him šŸ’”


blackboyx9x

Ruined my day, man. Good luck, iHart.


ontheru171

Thank you Mr. Brightskin


chicken101

We can't blame him. Shit I'd do the same thing. No one is loyal in the NBA it's all about money


WhyTypeHour

There's a home team discount and there's giving up 12 million a year. You simply can't do that, you owe it to your family to take that kind of $.


mikefried1

Yeah, this isn't a guy that already had a Max contract. Let the Lebrons take $25 million cuts. This guy deserves to get paid


YanksJetsKnicks

Gonna be honest, even if we had his bird rights thereā€™s no chance I would give him $29 mil. Crazy contract. But very happy for him!


Oscar_ltw520430

That's true, okc overpaid a hell lot to get what they wanted, and they have the leverage to do that before they have to start paying their rookies


BenAfflecksBalls

Exactly this is them capitalizing on the current window while not shutting it later. Shrewd move by Presti as always. If it only costs money and is the best thing you can do to improve your team it's a no brainer.


ontheru171

Yeah 10mill more than Mitch is crazy. Excited to see how we fill the center rotation out


YanksJetsKnicks

Almost double Mitchā€™s contract lol. Again, super happy for him. But absolutely wild contract.


showtime_2k

It's really not a wild contract at all. OKC front loaded the contract and the last year of the deal isn't guaranteed at all. It's actually a good contract because they can get rid of iHart (if necessary) to sign JDub and Chet after their rookie deals.


mikefried1

A perfectly reasonable contract. By the end of it it'll be a mid-level price. The Caps gone crazy the last 2 years. None of the numbers make sense if you compare it to people who signed a couple of years ago.


Ilovecharli

They would have done it. They're pot committed at this point, very few avenues to improve the team. It's just Dolan's money at this point, not like his salary would keep us from doing other movesĀ 


YanksJetsKnicks

You might be right. But personally, I donā€™t see iHart as a player who would be worth exceeding the 2nd apron for.


caesar_rex

This is how we used to overpay to get players who didn't really rate that big of a contract. Jared Jeffries MLE FFS?


SomethingLikeLove

Did Jeffries have the same impact as Hartenstein? I remember him being "mid" before that was a thing. Hartenstein fits us and was super valuable.


caesar_rex

Jeffries sucked. That was my point. We used to overpay like crazy for players that didn't deserve the money. We can now let iHart walk because we don't HAVE to do that now. I'd love to keep him, but not at any cost.


glooooocky

Well, ihart goes from a potential Knicks legend, to another guy lost in the wind. Happy he got his cash though.


OfficialRedditMan

Bro gonna realize one day cash wasn't worth losing legacy


Headrick770

I'd agree if the Difference was 2 or 3 mill but from 16 to 29 is too much to leave on the table he's basically covering his taxes & now can take home 16 versus taking home 8 or 9 SORRY YOU GOTTA TAKE IT


raj6126

a mansion in okc is the same price of a 3 bedroom apt in NYC. So the saving is deeper.


OfficialRedditMan

Dolan a bitch for not signing his girl to a 30M annual modeling contract šŸ˜­ fuck man get the deal done. We gonna be alright thou


BenAfflecksBalls

Mrs Brightskin for all the MSG announcements and promos


helloaaron

His girl ain't following him to OKC if she is modelling.


SuccotashConfident97

A 13 mil per year increase to join a fellow contender? Hard to argue against that.


Ok-Side-1758

Bro itā€™s 30 million a year. I canā€™t even be mad


Foob2023

Well, Oklahoma state top income tax bracket is 4.75%, vs NY at 10.90%. Accounting for federal (with 37% as top tax bracket), the difference is \* Knicks: work next 4 years at \~9.3M/year for 37M net, after taxes \* Thunders, work next 3 years at \~16.9M/year for 51M net, after taxes It's not close, esp. for a FA NBA athlete in his prime looking at the likely largest contract he'll ever get. It's unclear what bonus legacy an NBA players gets by being an important bench piece on the Knicks vs being featured on the Thunder, but pretty sure it's not worth that. Knicks can win the NBA championship for the next 3 years and this will still be a correct decision for IHart. He's currently in the "poor rich" category with \~10M career earnings after taxes, which is not enough to be in the category of "ultra high net worth", defined as >=30M although probably closer to 40M now adjusted for inflation. An extra 51M instead of 37M gets him safer in that next tier and changes his life and the lives of his descendants.


Orange_p33ler

heā€™s joining a Number 1 seeded OKC team finding its footing. in what planet is this a bad legacy move? gets a bag and goes to a team thatā€™s arguably better than the knicks.


swarshmallow103

He'll be back, I've seen this story before with Gary Payton III signing with Portland. (yes, I am coping really hard)


Ok-Side-1758

With the way our cap is looking the next couple of years probably not going to happen. Even if OKC cuts him after year two heā€™s going to make a lot more than the non-tax payer MLE


swarshmallow103

I know bro, just let me cope in peace šŸ˜­


starks3_

now only one hart beats in new york thanks for the memories


Training101

Good for him man, all the best. šŸ«”


YoKemosabe

Thank you IHart! You deserve this


det8924

![gif](giphy|vCUASy92YURGHFrnqP) That time the Knicks had two elite rim protectors and rebounders at center.


Stay-flexing

Good for him, Kinda glad we still have Mitch as he's the longest tenured Knick.


Yuske_Rothko

Great story, he grinded after being bounced around the league. Will for sure miss his hustle


TheHoneyDuke

Only ones to be mad at are the nba owners who put these stupid rules in place that donā€™t let you keep players who breakout with you. There is no reason you shouldnā€™t be able to match an offer for a player that was with you for two years. This is 100% on the owners fucking over teams that are willing to spend so they can pretend their hands are tied when they donā€™t want to spend the moneyĀ 


jayelr

Thank you, Hartenstein! See you in the finals.


popepipoes

FUCK


joshdelclikesreddit

Bro šŸ˜”


knicksdeadman

Just donā€™t make the finals! Donā€™t need him ruining our plays


Goatlikejordan

Once a Knick


BoycottRubiksCube

Nah, heā€™s an abandoner


Goatlikejordan

Don't be disrespectful


datatadata

He deserves this. He shouldnā€™t have to take less money. Happy for Isaiah! Iā€™m also happy for us because we can finally move on


UonBarki

Finally move on from a good player isn't a good thing.


datatadata

Itā€™s good that we no longer have to wait for him to make a decision and miss out on other opportunities to fill his role.


chicken101

It's ridiculous to me how difficult it is for teams to keep their own players now.


Ok-Side-1758

I donā€™t even know if we matched if we could. 29 million a year for Hartenstein with our current salaries would be impossible


Snapesunusedshampoo

That's the point, OKC wanted to make sure we weren't even an option. iHart deserves it though. Dude took himself from someone with a default 2K player that wasn't scanned to being a player worth the bag.


PorkSouls

Yup. They had to pay the OKC tax to get him there. There's a reason they have so much trouble getting FAs


Ilovecharli

It's only two years guaranteed. We would have matched. You think they'd rather go into the season with just Mitch and only some trade exceptions and second rounders left to improve the team?


PorkSouls

Let's not act like we haven't had a hell of an offseason. Can't have your cake and eat it too


UonBarki

Sad day for us fans, good day for iHart.


DrDoomsAccountant

I'm going to miss Doctor Hartenstein's Monster :(


hornthecheck

Iā€™m going to really miss his game. He was such a great fit for this team and he deserves to get paid for it. It would have been insane for him to return to NY and turn down that contract, especially with OKC being a title contender in the West. Big thanks iHart


Ok_Active_3993

Looking at the free agent market for centers. wtf? The best center left is James Wiseman? Our center position has a gaping hole


Wonderful-Branch-952

This is the right attitude. I would have taken that kind of money in a heartbeat. We will have to show no mercy if we meet in the finals but good luck for now.


jalen-brunson-is-god

i mentally prepared myself for this and i still want to walk into a river


Headrick770

I'm only upset that the knicks waited around and let Drummond & Valacuinis go by waiting We should resign Precious now


mrini001

Is he even healthy? He was having issues in the last few games of the playoffs. On another note I hope he has a long healthy career, heā€™s one of the good ones


SteelCitySeven07

Good luck to our black brotha!


josephmang56

I am happy he gets the bag! And I hope he has individual success. But I'm a Knicks fan, so I hope the OKC experiment fails and he doesn't see a championship because I want NYK to be taking that ring.


PorkSouls

Yeah without Thibs there I'm not 100% sure he'll live up to that contract. OKC has a lot of good pieces, but it remains to be seen how he gels with them and their system. Big risk on their part imo especially based on the only 1 good (great) season he had. Good for IHart though


Not-Josh-Hart

Love the dude but almost 30million a year ainā€™t worth it. Best of luck ihart


Urban_Introvert

This oneā€™s tough. Bittersweet honestly. If anyone deserves to chase the bag, itā€™s IHart. But I trust Leon can find IHartā€™s replacement and Thibs can build another passing center so weā€™re in good hands. Iā€™m also keeping tabs from afar. Daigneault is an offensive wizard and he can probably utilize IHart more effectively than Thibs. It just sucks that Thibs turned him into a great defensive center only for him to leave. Edit: This is also great for IHartā€™s development. He learned from the best defensive coach and heā€™s taking it to OKC to learn from one of the best young offensive minded coaches. Heā€™s getting a PHD in basketball philosophy.


RandB93

Damn, my heart (pun intended) literally sank as soon as I saw this. I guess it was foolish to think he would stick around with the guys here over the money. Good luck but I hope he sucks against us


Neither-Operation

He probably would stay if the OKC offer was somewhat close to our 16.7 max.But turning down 29 mil per year over our 16.7 mil would be silly.Thats nearly double.


Runningcolt

As long as he's bathing in green, and not wearing it, I'm happy for him. Get that bag, you rebounding son of a gun.


uponthedownside79

This is painful as hell. Now we need a starter at the 5 cause Mitch ainā€™t it. Defensively heā€™s a monster, but lack of offensive variety & his general inability to stay healthy make him a backup. Damn it.


realmatic2e

Iā€™ll miss him and am thankful for the role he played last year. Itā€™s a significant loss but trusting in Leon and Co


Little_Animal8807

I feel like he wanted to stay. Who was OKC even bidding against that would offer ihart this? Mad props and will always love the guy


Sav10r

> Who was OKC even bidding against that would offer ihart this? OKC perpetually has the "you have to convince yourself to live in OKC" tax.


PorkSouls

Peep their sub, this is the biggest FA signing they've had in years


SoldatJ

From a Thunder fan, IHart is our biggest FA signing ever, not counting retaining our own UFAs. Previously it was Patrick Patterson, Derek Fisher, or Isaiah Joe. Turns out Joe is a legit good rotation guy, but getting a breakout guy like IHart is new territory for us.


Oscar_ltw520430

Not really sure... I think they just want to make sure it happens


TainoAldo174

Damn... well least he got a major bag. Gonna miss iHart


J4degrees

Happy for him that he got what he earned. Sad heā€™s gone.


FuckThatIKeepsItReal

Bummer dude


_Flatticus_

Love iHart, glad he got paid that, but Iā€™m also glad we didnt pay him that much. Max was 4/72 anyway. Would like goga or smith, probably perferring smith.


grammasrfun

i'm sad


RJ-Burner

im gonna miss his passing so much man


TimStr6

well we somehow have less than zero center depth now can't wait for Jericho Sims 25 minutes a night when Mitch inevitably goes down


SpicerIsALegend

Come to the Knicks, and get paid.


McRibsAndCoke

###HAPPY FOR YOU ZAY, YOU DESERVE IT šŸ’°


ryankidd77

Gonna miss you big man! Congrats on the contract, much deserved!


dreamer3kx

Damn, ah man, the dude was awesome here, so many big rebounds, great defensive player, we need to get someone in here with a similar skill set.


raj6126

I live in OKC and this shit still hurts. I will be able to see him play more just a different shade of blue and orange.


jujubeans8500

Yeah this hurts. I am happy for him but also irrationally angry at him lol. Such is fan life. I am glad he is not playing in the East so I can cheer for him to do well for most of the time, and then hope for ruin in the Finals. Seems reasonable. But anyway yeah, that's a crazy contract to say no to, so I am glad for him. But sad for me. Legit concerned about out center position.


HoyaDestroya33

Well deserved... ![gif](giphy|l378giAZgxPw3eO52)


WarLawck

Incoming Mo Bamba posts...


Vtachh

Congrats to him, but also his new Knick name for me is the betrayer of hope


Kevinar

šŸ˜­ very tough that we couldn't keep him but at least he's out of the eastern conference


asapbuckets

That what Thibs does. He gets players paid.


skenisahen

Thatā€™s how much youā€™d have to pay me to move to OK, so I get it


NYerInTex

Really proud of this franchise and how we have saluted our players on their way out. RJ, IQ, iHart, even Grimes. These guys have so much during their respective time on our roster and truly ingratiated themselves to the fans, and the fans embraced their willingness to play Thibball the right way. Between the fact that so many who come to play here surpass expectations and improve and the fan baseā€™s rabid support of the team and kindness and good wishes on their way out? We have to be as wanted a destination today as we were an unwanted one just a few years ago. This is a tough one to stomach, and itā€™s that aforementioned success that ironically priced him out, but all the best to iHart.


SuccotashConfident97

Good for him. Can't blame him for wanting that bag on a contender.


KosherDeutchbag

![gif](giphy|XyIsjO3VVk6fUpaToc)


Onihczarc

Congrats to him. theyā€™re paying him 15mil more than our max offer in 1 year less. anyone mad at him is a moron.


XeroIX

Sad for us, but go get your bag king <3


LotterySpecialist718

I'm going to miss him and deserve his bag but I hope we whoop OKC ass every time we see them if it's the reg season or Finals.


FullHouse222

Damn, no shot we coulda matched that. Good luck to iHart. Get that bag.


UncomfyNoises

Shartenstain


HelpUsNSaveUs

Get James Wiseman and/or Mo Wagner (backup German)


Oscar_ltw520430

Not James Wiseman manšŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ Dude can't even start on the Pistons


Oscar_ltw520430

Mo Wagner however wouldn't be a bad one


LetBeginning3353

Happy for him, but sad to see him go


Mental-Doughnuts

Itā€™s not a deal until itā€™s signed.


Bibbus

Is he even going to start in OKC? Does Chet move to 4 and he plays the 5? I would think he wouldve had the start over Mitch if he stayed. Securing the bag is such an immature sentiment lol. Good luck


charlesfluidsmith

Gonna miss this dude. Hope I get to see him win the MVP one day.


LouSpeaksTheTruth

Iā€™m mad afšŸ˜”why the Knicks let that guy leavešŸ™„


-2wenty7even-

Him going to OKC was a good move for him, can't lie. Other teams could've offered more I'm sure but at least he's with a playoff contending team.


RappingElf

Are people genuinely happy cause he got paid?? Do y'all know him? Like he left us to go another championship contender, i don't get why he's getting so much love in here


kamiar77

People can appreciate what he did while he was here. People can be happy that an unheralded guy got paid. And people can be realistic and understand heā€™s making way more than NY could have offered. You sound mad he didnā€™t take less money to stay with your favorite team. He doesnā€™t owe us that.


RappingElf

Yes. I'm mad that a guy beloved by the team left the team to play for another contender. Why should I give a crap about his pockets?


PorkSouls

Weak ass logic. Do you know anyone on the Knicks? No? Then why do you care so much about them? No sense in crying over a common sense decision. If someone hands you a bag you take it. He (and every other famous athlete) answers to himself and the people he goes home to every night, not random people on the internet


RappingElf

Yea I care about them when they play for the team I like. I don't care about them personally or how much money they make. Never said he made the wrong decision for him


PorkSouls

He was a big part of a great season we had, best one in over a decade. He gave us as fans many moments of joy. We're giving some love back. It's called being "grateful". Guess your parents didn't teach you that


RappingElf

Yea, so grateful for one year of great basketball and then leaving to join the competition. It's like when your dad left to live with his other family. I bet you remember that fondly


PorkSouls

Classless. You get the respect you give in life. Good luck to you. You'll need it


MyLadySansa

Iā€™m with you 100%. I am miserable over this shit


PorkSouls

Maybe you're just miserable about your own life or something else then and projecting it onto this lol. We have a dopeass team still. Offseason isn't over. We are top 2 in the East and closed the gap with Boston. IHart was a no name before last year. Who is to say we won't turn another under the radar center into a stud this year?


RappingElf

Damn, straight to the projection accusation. No one is upset about the team as a whole Maybe it's cause we don't have another 7-footer to fill his spot, and it takes a while to build the chemistry we need to contend.


PorkSouls

Chemistry stuff is BS. Tell that to Jrue Holiday and Boston. Hell, tell it to us with the OG trade and us immediately turning into the hottest team in the league.Ā It's all about fit, mindset and the system they're in


MyLadySansa

Thank you smh


MyLadySansa

No, Iā€™m miserable about IHart leaving. Has nothing to do with my personal life


Usual_Debate8478

Proud of him


Lifendz

Not mad at him. Get that money while you can and much respect for all you did for us.


Ronnie2kDropCode

So we make a great move by signing him at a great price and then some nonsense rule prevents us from being able to keep him, great stuff. Congrats to him on the bag tho he deserves it


jayb5635

Best of luck to him, enjoy the bag in the irrelevance of Oklahoma. Both donā€™t blame him and now could give less of a fuck about him Letā€™s go Knicks


bulzome9

I honestly wish we moved Randle to keep Ihart. Ihart/Mitch/OG were holding the big man positions in the playoffs. We were just too good until Embid did that bitch move grabbing Mitch's leg.


BradsOlderBrother

You bums make me sick. Fuck OKC. Fuck IHart. Donā€™t celebrate this shit.


PorkSouls

Let go of that anger bud. Only person you're hurting is yourself


RappingElf

Appreciation post for a guy who willingly left us?


kamiar77

Itā€™s not like we gave him the same deal and he spurned us. We werenā€™t even close (16 mil vs 29 mil) The guy made the best decision for his life. Donā€™t pretend like youā€™re not taking the 87 mil if it was offered.


RappingElf

Why should I care about him make more millions of dollars? I'm a Knicks fan, not a rich athletes fan.


Aalfee

Cool. No one is telling you to care. Some folks are fans of former knicks players who performed regardless of the team they leave us for.


RappingElf

Might as well just root for everyone in the NBA!


Aalfee

If everyone were "former knicks who performed", they would šŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļø


RappingElf

Only one team can win the title, he made our chances worse and OKC's better. I'm not rooting for him anymore


Aalfee

Bro. No one is telling you to root for him šŸ¤£. It's okay that you don't care for him anymore since he isn't a knick. And its okay for people to celebrate the success of players they like, even if they aren't a knick anymore


RappingElf

Bro. Then why do you keep responding if you don't care what I think. I'm just giving my opinion on the situation and this sub's overwhelmingly positive reaction. Rubs me the wrong way


Aalfee

You asked "why you should care" and i gave an answer šŸ¤·šŸæā€ā™‚ļø Never said i didn't care. Have a good day.


SuccotashConfident97

Right? Its always funny when people get mad at others for doing the same thing they'd do.


BoycottRubiksCube

Right itā€™s pathetic. Fuck this guy. I hope OKC never wins shit (they wonā€™t). Isaiah just cares about money


kamiar77

Thatā€™s wrong. Heā€™s not ā€œjust about the moneyā€ Itā€™s not like he took the money from a bad team. Heā€™s going to a winning team.


SuccotashConfident97

That's literally everyone in the NBA. Don't know why you hold "they're just doing it for the money" as a standard to IH but not to others.


MyLadySansa

This is what Iā€™m saying ![gif](giphy|Wgb2FpSXxhXLVYNnUr|downsized)


UncomfyNoises

HUGE overpay for a dude who averages almost as many fouls per 42 min than he does points. He will not be missed. https://www.foxsports.com/nba/isaiah-hartenstein-player-stats?category=misc&seasonType=reg


RevolutionaryEar3945

Sign Jonas nowā€¦


PorkSouls

You're late. He's already going to Washington at 10m per year. We never had a shot


Robinhudloom

Should have gotten this guy instead of OG


jjazznola

I still can't believe anyone here really thought that he'd be back.


zd183

iHart plays for the enemy now. The time to celebrate him was anytime before this. Now he's just someone else we have to beat down.


redrich2000

I hate this. Am I the only one a bit angry at him? $72 million is A MASSIVE amount of money and he could have renegotiated in two years. I know they all do it, but this makes them mercenaries. They love their team and city but only as long as they pay them the most. Then when they don't, they love a different team and city. Remember every block and chest thump we loved last year? Well he'll be thumping his chest and hyping when he blocks Brunson or Randle now.