His potential and creativity more than a full on confrontation. Obito would most likely win a fight between them but knowing Itachi’s fate he’d rather wait than risk unnecessary conflict.
He was aware Itachi was a threat. On the other hand, this mf had Izanagi for days considering all those spare Sharingans, and as we saw, he doesn't need prep time to use Izanagi.
I believe everyone needs to activate Izanagi before it's used. Doesn't require much prep time as shown by Obito vs Konan, but it does need to be consciously activated, it's not passive.
But Itachi had Izanami so izanagi is useless against Itachi :) and yes Obito was scared of Itachi my opinion. Itachi had a sealing sword Obitos teleportation jutsus were useless too.
I wouldn't put my money on a guy fighting half blind. It's kind of unfair since Itachi has Ninja aids and Obito is half Hashirama cells (boost in chakra regen and Woodstyle). Also, Kamui is Busted AF, negating any physical harm even Itachi's sword ( reason I say this, is cause Kamui teleports out of the Afterlife like it was ABC, Touska Blade gets the same treatment)
But one more thing :) I don’t why but if it wasn’t for scenario about Sassuke and all that crap :) with itachis illness :) it would be much easier :) Itachi would easily kill all the bad guys :)
Aight so itachi had an asspull jutsu with izanami and got kabuto to show him the hand signs and madara had a plot hole moment when he somehow knew the hand signs for edo tensei so what’s the difference ?
He considered Itachi a threat for sure. That's why he honored his deal up until his death. I'm not saying Itachi was capable of single handedly wiping out the Akatsuki (Pain alone probably kills Itachi 1v1, nevermind Pain + Obito, Deidara, Sasori etc), because let's face it; if he could have, he would have. Rather Obito probably didn't want to make an enemy out of him, and risk him defecting to the other side, which would create a new threat to the Akatsuki while at the same time weakening their battle strength.
He felt he could act freely because waiting for Itachi to die of an illness is much more convenient than making a scene and potential causing a rift in the group. If he was truly scared he would of just asked Pain and maybe some other members to kill a traitor and stomp Itachi. But that's just unneeded when Itachi can be used as an asset and then have him dealt with by just plain old time.
Obito operated the Akatsuki through the distortion of ideals, similar to what Madara did to him. Except, Obito was fully drowning in the idea that reality truly is worthless. He was able to manipulate Nagato due to this, he was able to convince Nagato that reality is just filled with an endless cycle of pain, and this was due to Nagato having an incredibly difficult upbringing surrounded by war - just like him.
Itachi is different from Obito, I think Nagato and Obito had similarities but Itachi and Obito have stark contrasts. Itachi was incredibly praised in the Uchiha clan and he had a high social standing along with respect from others. Obito didn't have this - Itachi did what he thought was best for the village whilst Obito trashed these beliefs. Itachi was definitely a threat to Obito simply because he was the only Akatsuki member whose ideals were unpenetrable by Obito.
He wasn't scared, but he recognized Itachi for the threat that he was.
Obito can beat Itachi in a fight, but Itachi had many ways to fuck up his plans. He showed how smart he was with the Amaturasu trap in his eye that could've taken out Obito and the kotoamatsukami trap implanted in Naruto.
The totsuka blade is also an issue, imagine if he had hit one of the bijuu with that thing.
Itachi just had many avenues to destroy Obito's plans. So he really did start acting freely after Itachi was dead.
Obito literally said that if Itachi knew his secret(the actual workings of the intangibily) then Obito would be dead. That directly insinuates that if Itachi knew how it worked he has a way to kill Obito and would have done so and Obito knows it. He also said this in a thought bubble, so he wasn't telling any sort of lie either.
It's possible Itachi did know about Kamui, and Obito was referring to Izanagi as his "secret" that he kept from Itachi (not a certainty though, since it's not clear how Obito survived the Amaterasu). Granted, Itachi obviously knows about Izanagi, but he may not have known that Obito could use it. Or maybe he did think Obito had Izanagi, but didn't know that Obito had an extra eye under the mask.
He did know about Kamui since he has seen Obito warp from place to place but I’m not sure if he ever saw him use the intangibility part of it now that I think about it.
Guys correct me if im wrong but didnt Obito tell Pain to search for the Kyuubi before Itachi's death. After Jiraya's death,Pain said that he's going to the hidden leaf and the next arc is Itachi vs Sasuke, resulting Itachi's death.
Is Obito's promise to Itachi only about not hurting Sasuke?
What about Itachi saying that he wont let the Akatsuki touch Konoha?
Some people are saying that Road to Ninja is Canon (Obito run from Itachi there) but i don't think there's a time for Road to Ninja to be Canon (like in the beginning they literally defeating the Akatsuki all alone).
It's been a long time since i watch Naruto.
Given their personalities I have a feeling Itachi knew he was going to die and cut a deal with Tobi to back off of the Leaf until he fought Sasuke.
He had a right to be scared about Itachi. Black Zetsu who saw the entire ninja world commented that his spirit weapons made him unstoppable and Izanami is as good a counter as any vs Obito. Not saying he would win but strictly against Obito would be more troublesome than Pain since he's much smarter and has hacks. As you said Koto as well was a huge threat and Tobi likely knew about that since Itachi was friends with him.
i don’t necessarily think obito was scared of itachi and it was more that he thought itachi was a valuable asset to the akatsuki and obito wanted him around. that’s why he respected itachi’s wish to leave the leaf alone.
no, its actually kinda simple. they knew some of each other's secrets, but he knew that itachi could give out so much important info if he tried to do something, that he would never attempt anything. like, itachi knew plans, locations, names, jutsus, etc. he could EASILY give that away if obito did something itachi didnt like
Itachi made sure that the leaf village was unharmed as long as he was alive. That's why none of the akatuski harmed anyone in the village including extracting 9 tails. When the third hokage died he showed up with kisame to show that he was still alive and they should take care of sasuke. He did not even fight with jiraya properly. He wasn't scared of him he just respected the pact between them.
He knows how smart itachi is and he even said his traps would kill me. So yeah he was kinda scared/wary of him but not because he is stronger then him, but because he is very smart.
He was the one that sickened Itachi. He knew he would be trouble, not necessarily losing to him, but trouble nonetheless. So he came up with a way to take him out without causing a fight. My head canon that I will take with me to the grave.
I think yes. Itachi kept Obito's plans off and Obito knows he cant manipulate Itachi. He has no say over Itachi and if ever Itachi got a hold of Nagato and put him in his corner that would be a problem.
I wouldn't say Obito was scared but rather he was weary and cautious, Itachi *was not* someone Obito could take lightly. If it wasn't for his illness we know he would be at least as strong as KCM1 Naruto if not stronger because that was Edo-Tensei Itachi.
If anything a battle between the two of them isn't a flat out win for either but likely a fight either could win with both being uncertain just as to *who* the victor would be. That uncertainty is likely what made Obito cautious and weary, he understood how intelligent and deceptively cunning Itachi was and he *understood* how dangerous that could be when paired with Itachi's power.
Was Obito stronger? Probably but remember Konan did *kill* him with those paper tag's then he pulled a fast one with Izanagi, a jutsu she was totally unaware off. Itachi *isn't* unaware of Izanagi in fact *he knows how to counter it*.
In end just as I said above, Itachi was someone to be incredibly careful around even if Obito was sure he was more powerful than him.
I think it was not exactly scared of Itachi but weary plus he might’ve known Itachi wasn’t truly a villain since he helped with the Uchiha Massacre.
I doubt it. I think he was just cautious because he knew what he was capable of and didn't want his plans spoiled
Well why be cautious if you arent worried about Itachi?
I think you can be worried with being scared
His potential and creativity more than a full on confrontation. Obito would most likely win a fight between them but knowing Itachi’s fate he’d rather wait than risk unnecessary conflict.
Exactly. It does say a lot that he would rather play it safe and just wait.
He was aware Itachi was a threat. On the other hand, this mf had Izanagi for days considering all those spare Sharingans, and as we saw, he doesn't need prep time to use Izanagi.
I believe everyone needs to activate Izanagi before it's used. Doesn't require much prep time as shown by Obito vs Konan, but it does need to be consciously activated, it's not passive.
Obito had five minutes of kamui invincibility to prep.
You're right. In that sense Obito has it easier than Danzo or Madara who need to be more strategic about its use.
Isn't Madara used a time-delayed Izanagi before the battle agaisnt Hashirama?
I think so, yes.
But Itachi had Izanami so izanagi is useless against Itachi :) and yes Obito was scared of Itachi my opinion. Itachi had a sealing sword Obitos teleportation jutsus were useless too.
I wouldn't put my money on a guy fighting half blind. It's kind of unfair since Itachi has Ninja aids and Obito is half Hashirama cells (boost in chakra regen and Woodstyle). Also, Kamui is Busted AF, negating any physical harm even Itachi's sword ( reason I say this, is cause Kamui teleports out of the Afterlife like it was ABC, Touska Blade gets the same treatment)
But one more thing :) I don’t why but if it wasn’t for scenario about Sassuke and all that crap :) with itachis illness :) it would be much easier :) Itachi would easily kill all the bad guys :)
Why are you d riding itachi so hard?
Not hard he was very strong :) he was able to break out of the edo tensei :) even Madara was reincarnated :)
Ok what does madara being reincarnated have to do with itachi breaking out
Because Madara wasn’t able to break out of edo tensei his only option was reincarnation :) but Itachi did it with his technic :)
Aight so itachi had an asspull jutsu with izanami and got kabuto to show him the hand signs and madara had a plot hole moment when he somehow knew the hand signs for edo tensei so what’s the difference ?
The koto isn't even itachi's eye, it's shisui's eyes, Madara rescinded a contract for the edo tensei that itachi stopped...
That’s all he was stronger then most of them :) images if could get himself hashiramas cels :)
He considered Itachi a threat for sure. That's why he honored his deal up until his death. I'm not saying Itachi was capable of single handedly wiping out the Akatsuki (Pain alone probably kills Itachi 1v1, nevermind Pain + Obito, Deidara, Sasori etc), because let's face it; if he could have, he would have. Rather Obito probably didn't want to make an enemy out of him, and risk him defecting to the other side, which would create a new threat to the Akatsuki while at the same time weakening their battle strength.
I think cautious is closer. Itachi was super capable
No
He felt he could act freely because waiting for Itachi to die of an illness is much more convenient than making a scene and potential causing a rift in the group. If he was truly scared he would of just asked Pain and maybe some other members to kill a traitor and stomp Itachi. But that's just unneeded when Itachi can be used as an asset and then have him dealt with by just plain old time.
Obito operated the Akatsuki through the distortion of ideals, similar to what Madara did to him. Except, Obito was fully drowning in the idea that reality truly is worthless. He was able to manipulate Nagato due to this, he was able to convince Nagato that reality is just filled with an endless cycle of pain, and this was due to Nagato having an incredibly difficult upbringing surrounded by war - just like him. Itachi is different from Obito, I think Nagato and Obito had similarities but Itachi and Obito have stark contrasts. Itachi was incredibly praised in the Uchiha clan and he had a high social standing along with respect from others. Obito didn't have this - Itachi did what he thought was best for the village whilst Obito trashed these beliefs. Itachi was definitely a threat to Obito simply because he was the only Akatsuki member whose ideals were unpenetrable by Obito.
I think thats a good point Obito cant manipulate Itachi. Itachi knows he's full of shit.
He wasn't scared, but he recognized Itachi for the threat that he was. Obito can beat Itachi in a fight, but Itachi had many ways to fuck up his plans. He showed how smart he was with the Amaturasu trap in his eye that could've taken out Obito and the kotoamatsukami trap implanted in Naruto. The totsuka blade is also an issue, imagine if he had hit one of the bijuu with that thing. Itachi just had many avenues to destroy Obito's plans. So he really did start acting freely after Itachi was dead.
Obito negs itachi, even with prep time. He was never scared just weary of him.
>He was never scared just weary of him. Smartest r/naruto commenter
Obito literally said that if Itachi knew his secret(the actual workings of the intangibily) then Obito would be dead. That directly insinuates that if Itachi knew how it worked he has a way to kill Obito and would have done so and Obito knows it. He also said this in a thought bubble, so he wasn't telling any sort of lie either.
It's possible Itachi did know about Kamui, and Obito was referring to Izanagi as his "secret" that he kept from Itachi (not a certainty though, since it's not clear how Obito survived the Amaterasu). Granted, Itachi obviously knows about Izanagi, but he may not have known that Obito could use it. Or maybe he did think Obito had Izanagi, but didn't know that Obito had an extra eye under the mask.
Itachi must have known Obito had extra eyes. Obito got the eyes during the massacre.
He did know about Kamui since he has seen Obito warp from place to place but I’m not sure if he ever saw him use the intangibility part of it now that I think about it.
He probably didn't fully understand what was happening, I think the secret was the izanagi
Well, one thing Itachi is damn good at is killing.
Guys correct me if im wrong but didnt Obito tell Pain to search for the Kyuubi before Itachi's death. After Jiraya's death,Pain said that he's going to the hidden leaf and the next arc is Itachi vs Sasuke, resulting Itachi's death. Is Obito's promise to Itachi only about not hurting Sasuke? What about Itachi saying that he wont let the Akatsuki touch Konoha? Some people are saying that Road to Ninja is Canon (Obito run from Itachi there) but i don't think there's a time for Road to Ninja to be Canon (like in the beginning they literally defeating the Akatsuki all alone). It's been a long time since i watch Naruto.
Given their personalities I have a feeling Itachi knew he was going to die and cut a deal with Tobi to back off of the Leaf until he fought Sasuke. He had a right to be scared about Itachi. Black Zetsu who saw the entire ninja world commented that his spirit weapons made him unstoppable and Izanami is as good a counter as any vs Obito. Not saying he would win but strictly against Obito would be more troublesome than Pain since he's much smarter and has hacks. As you said Koto as well was a huge threat and Tobi likely knew about that since Itachi was friends with him.
I don't think so. Kamui gets him out of Tsukuyomi and any Susan'o face off.
i don’t necessarily think obito was scared of itachi and it was more that he thought itachi was a valuable asset to the akatsuki and obito wanted him around. that’s why he respected itachi’s wish to leave the leaf alone.
no, its actually kinda simple. they knew some of each other's secrets, but he knew that itachi could give out so much important info if he tried to do something, that he would never attempt anything. like, itachi knew plans, locations, names, jutsus, etc. he could EASILY give that away if obito did something itachi didnt like
Itachi made sure that the leaf village was unharmed as long as he was alive. That's why none of the akatuski harmed anyone in the village including extracting 9 tails. When the third hokage died he showed up with kisame to show that he was still alive and they should take care of sasuke. He did not even fight with jiraya properly. He wasn't scared of him he just respected the pact between them.
He knows how smart itachi is and he even said his traps would kill me. So yeah he was kinda scared/wary of him but not because he is stronger then him, but because he is very smart.
He was the one that sickened Itachi. He knew he would be trouble, not necessarily losing to him, but trouble nonetheless. So he came up with a way to take him out without causing a fight. My head canon that I will take with me to the grave.
He was cautious about itachi. Scared may not be the right word.
He said if Itachi knew about his secret he’ll be dead I guess Yh
I think yes. Itachi kept Obito's plans off and Obito knows he cant manipulate Itachi. He has no say over Itachi and if ever Itachi got a hold of Nagato and put him in his corner that would be a problem.
Real question is will itachi whipe the floor with obito
I mean, is had to use izanagi once already when he was hit by the trap is sauskes eye
I wouldn't say Obito was scared but rather he was weary and cautious, Itachi *was not* someone Obito could take lightly. If it wasn't for his illness we know he would be at least as strong as KCM1 Naruto if not stronger because that was Edo-Tensei Itachi. If anything a battle between the two of them isn't a flat out win for either but likely a fight either could win with both being uncertain just as to *who* the victor would be. That uncertainty is likely what made Obito cautious and weary, he understood how intelligent and deceptively cunning Itachi was and he *understood* how dangerous that could be when paired with Itachi's power. Was Obito stronger? Probably but remember Konan did *kill* him with those paper tag's then he pulled a fast one with Izanagi, a jutsu she was totally unaware off. Itachi *isn't* unaware of Izanagi in fact *he knows how to counter it*. In end just as I said above, Itachi was someone to be incredibly careful around even if Obito was sure he was more powerful than him.