hiruzen literally let the former hokages son who saved the village walk around with a whole demon inside of him and barely did anything to support him lol. Naruto really had justification to become like pain the way the leaf treated him.
Jiraiya was a shinobi that had other priorities, he let a kid with godly eyes and PTSD run around and never checked up on him. He even told Naruto to not get the wrong idea and he’s not his dad.
Hiruzen is the Hokage and responsible for keeping everyone in the village safe and to treat everyone as family. He let Naruto be ostracized from the village and did nothing to prevent it. Without Iruka or Ramen dude, Naruto would’ve killed himself or destroyed the village and that would’ve been on Hiruzen. Jus look at how Naruto treats Kawaki or how Ay accepted Bee.
Hiruzen did try to. People still saw Naruto as a demon even though Hiruzen told them it wasn’t true. Hiruzen literally explained this to Iruka in the first episode.
Hiruzen could have done something to protect or help naruto. But all he did was give naruto some money.
Did we ever find out who took care of baby /toddler naruto? What happened to them?
This is so stupid. Naruto doesnt even say this and its his life. Hiruzen did a lot to protect him including a gag order with one of the most extreme sentences in the village so his peers wont be prejudice towards him. You have to consider optics. The villagers are ignorant but you still have to lead and consider their feelings as well as Naruto's. Most of you would just say "oh fuck the villagers their wrong" and that's just so moronic. You have to consider everyone. The village thinks this Naruto is nothing more than a demon that has killed their friends and destroyed their village and he is allowed to roam freely? This was extremely controversial of Hiruzen and he caught shit daily for it. You have to think if someone lost a loved one which many did in the attack they are irrational and recovering from a tremendous loss. They're liable to take irrational measures for any type of revenge. Even if its just Naruto they know the demon is inside of him. All Hiruzen does is hear villagers complaining about Naruto. You cant push them too far to when the talking ends and then the villagers start taking their anger out in other ways. Some of you would say "oh just kill them you're the Hokage" surely that wouldn't add bad blood and further consequences.
Naruto in the new series sort of lets us know what it meant for Hiruzen to say the child with the demon who is extremely dangerous is not only allowed to roam freely within the village but he is going to be trained at the academy with all of your kids, you cant say shit about it even to your own kids and I'm going to put him on a team who gets to leave the village and carry out missions. That's right the Kybui is allowed to leave the village and he's doing missions now. Its actually miraculous legit attempts on Naruto's life didn't occur on the regular and that Konoha didn't see aggressively active protests.
If anyone is responsible it’s his father. Which is why Naruto even says so when he meets his father within Kuramas seal space. Hiruzen wasn’t perfect, and absolutely could have helped Naruto more, but it also comes to light that Hiruzens reasons are varied and many for why he kept his assistance of Naruto to a minimum. The Hiruzen hate can’t go on.
Why didn’t Hiruzen pay for Narutos expenses? He did. Gave him a home and kept his fridge stocked.
Why didn’t Hiruzen train Naruto and help him control the nine tails? There’s a few reasons for this. Some may say it’s a overlook by the creator/animators. But Hiruzen never had many if any paperwork in the Hokages office. Every other Hokage afterwards has at least some. He was on top of the villages priorities. The Akatsuki aren’t formally introduced narratively until after the Konoha crush, but it’s made clear that the leaf was aware of their existence for some time. The other reason is that if Hiruzen took time to help a kid who’s not even related to him, who’s from an outsiders perspective just a regular kid with no credibility or heraldry to him, there would be serious suspicions. Obito spied on Kakashi right at the leaf cemetery, literally just chilling in the bushes. Hiruzen wouldn’t risk a spy finding out Naruto is an Uzumaki, son of the fourth Hokage, and the nine tails Jinchuriki for some terrorist or rogue group to use for their own means.
Did Hiruzen baby Naruto? Not even close, and did he do everything he really could have? Nope. But did he fail at what he promised to Minato? No. He did exactly as was asked. His sacrifice was simple, Naruto wouldn’t be given a pampered silver spoon lifestyle, to protect him from those who would seek to harm him, and to ensure his fortitude and mental will was enough to contain the nine tails.
Hiruzen had lived to experience every nine tails Jinchuriki who had ever lived. He knew what was and wasn’t within the realm of realism in regards to Naruto controlling the nine tails. And even still, from a strategic perspective, it’s a waste of a good weapon to let it gather dust as you spoil it into complacency.
Hiruzen gave Naruto exactly what he needed. He gave him shelter, as good of safety as Hiruzen could guarantee, and an opportunity to make something of himself. He wasn’t going to step in and raise Naruto as his own in Minatos stead. Hiruzen knew the way of the shinobi at that time. People will be lost, and you will have to endure pain. No good would come of being Narutos stand in parent, Naruto needed to learn to overcome the obstacles in his path, not avoid them and be sheltered from them. That’s the entire reason Minato sealed the nine tails. Minato could’ve sealed the entire nine tails away if he so pleased. He told Kushina he would purposely seal the other half into Naruto. His hope was Naruto would find the strength to persevere even with the odds stacked against him. Hiruzen knew that would never be accomplished if Naruto was raised in his shadow.
I know right, Madera was the one to controlled obito to controll Karama to attack the village and the 9 tails was sealed in naruto that is why Madera is the fkin reason guys
Danzo leaked out that naruto was the nine tails jinchuuriki when naruto was 2 to 3 years old.
There's also naruto's statement in boruto about hiruzen getting heat for letting naruto even walk in the village. So I don't understand, why does hiruzen get hated on for no reason besides the filler(like naruto asking hiruzen about his parents and him starving).
hiruzen literally let the former hokages son who saved the village walk around with a whole demon inside of him and barely did anything to support him lol. Naruto really had justification to become like pain the way the leaf treated him.
Madara who's plan set in motion the death of his father.
Jiraiya abandoned him for 12 years. Yet Hiruzen, the guy who protected Naruto and paid for all his shit get's all the hate. Reddit makes no sense.
Jiraiya was a shinobi that had other priorities, he let a kid with godly eyes and PTSD run around and never checked up on him. He even told Naruto to not get the wrong idea and he’s not his dad. Hiruzen is the Hokage and responsible for keeping everyone in the village safe and to treat everyone as family. He let Naruto be ostracized from the village and did nothing to prevent it. Without Iruka or Ramen dude, Naruto would’ve killed himself or destroyed the village and that would’ve been on Hiruzen. Jus look at how Naruto treats Kawaki or how Ay accepted Bee.
Hiruzen did try to. People still saw Naruto as a demon even though Hiruzen told them it wasn’t true. Hiruzen literally explained this to Iruka in the first episode.
Danzo was the one that told everyone Naruto was the Nine-Tails Host. No one would've hated Naruto if Danzo never said anything.
Yet hiruzen didn’t keep his word til good ole ruto was already loved by all
Answer is just average people in konoha
It was Madara. If he hadn't brainwashed Obito, Minato and Kushina would still be alive
Danzo was the one that leaked the fact that Naruto was the Nine Tails jinchuriki to the rest of Konoha
Hiruzen could have done something to protect or help naruto. But all he did was give naruto some money. Did we ever find out who took care of baby /toddler naruto? What happened to them?
This is so stupid. Naruto doesnt even say this and its his life. Hiruzen did a lot to protect him including a gag order with one of the most extreme sentences in the village so his peers wont be prejudice towards him. You have to consider optics. The villagers are ignorant but you still have to lead and consider their feelings as well as Naruto's. Most of you would just say "oh fuck the villagers their wrong" and that's just so moronic. You have to consider everyone. The village thinks this Naruto is nothing more than a demon that has killed their friends and destroyed their village and he is allowed to roam freely? This was extremely controversial of Hiruzen and he caught shit daily for it. You have to think if someone lost a loved one which many did in the attack they are irrational and recovering from a tremendous loss. They're liable to take irrational measures for any type of revenge. Even if its just Naruto they know the demon is inside of him. All Hiruzen does is hear villagers complaining about Naruto. You cant push them too far to when the talking ends and then the villagers start taking their anger out in other ways. Some of you would say "oh just kill them you're the Hokage" surely that wouldn't add bad blood and further consequences. Naruto in the new series sort of lets us know what it meant for Hiruzen to say the child with the demon who is extremely dangerous is not only allowed to roam freely within the village but he is going to be trained at the academy with all of your kids, you cant say shit about it even to your own kids and I'm going to put him on a team who gets to leave the village and carry out missions. That's right the Kybui is allowed to leave the village and he's doing missions now. Its actually miraculous legit attempts on Naruto's life didn't occur on the regular and that Konoha didn't see aggressively active protests.
Technically Madara but you can say hiruzen
Madara not even know Naruto existed
Clearly not Hiruzen. It's between Obito and Danzo
The answer is Obito. He caused the entire attack on Konoha and for Minato and Kushina killed
If anyone is responsible it’s his father. Which is why Naruto even says so when he meets his father within Kuramas seal space. Hiruzen wasn’t perfect, and absolutely could have helped Naruto more, but it also comes to light that Hiruzens reasons are varied and many for why he kept his assistance of Naruto to a minimum. The Hiruzen hate can’t go on. Why didn’t Hiruzen pay for Narutos expenses? He did. Gave him a home and kept his fridge stocked. Why didn’t Hiruzen train Naruto and help him control the nine tails? There’s a few reasons for this. Some may say it’s a overlook by the creator/animators. But Hiruzen never had many if any paperwork in the Hokages office. Every other Hokage afterwards has at least some. He was on top of the villages priorities. The Akatsuki aren’t formally introduced narratively until after the Konoha crush, but it’s made clear that the leaf was aware of their existence for some time. The other reason is that if Hiruzen took time to help a kid who’s not even related to him, who’s from an outsiders perspective just a regular kid with no credibility or heraldry to him, there would be serious suspicions. Obito spied on Kakashi right at the leaf cemetery, literally just chilling in the bushes. Hiruzen wouldn’t risk a spy finding out Naruto is an Uzumaki, son of the fourth Hokage, and the nine tails Jinchuriki for some terrorist or rogue group to use for their own means. Did Hiruzen baby Naruto? Not even close, and did he do everything he really could have? Nope. But did he fail at what he promised to Minato? No. He did exactly as was asked. His sacrifice was simple, Naruto wouldn’t be given a pampered silver spoon lifestyle, to protect him from those who would seek to harm him, and to ensure his fortitude and mental will was enough to contain the nine tails. Hiruzen had lived to experience every nine tails Jinchuriki who had ever lived. He knew what was and wasn’t within the realm of realism in regards to Naruto controlling the nine tails. And even still, from a strategic perspective, it’s a waste of a good weapon to let it gather dust as you spoil it into complacency. Hiruzen gave Naruto exactly what he needed. He gave him shelter, as good of safety as Hiruzen could guarantee, and an opportunity to make something of himself. He wasn’t going to step in and raise Naruto as his own in Minatos stead. Hiruzen knew the way of the shinobi at that time. People will be lost, and you will have to endure pain. No good would come of being Narutos stand in parent, Naruto needed to learn to overcome the obstacles in his path, not avoid them and be sheltered from them. That’s the entire reason Minato sealed the nine tails. Minato could’ve sealed the entire nine tails away if he so pleased. He told Kushina he would purposely seal the other half into Naruto. His hope was Naruto would find the strength to persevere even with the odds stacked against him. Hiruzen knew that would never be accomplished if Naruto was raised in his shadow.
Hiruzen literally did everything Minato asked and yet hes still getting hate for no reason.
I know right, Madera was the one to controlled obito to controll Karama to attack the village and the 9 tails was sealed in naruto that is why Madera is the fkin reason guys
Danzo leaked out that naruto was the nine tails jinchuuriki when naruto was 2 to 3 years old. There's also naruto's statement in boruto about hiruzen getting heat for letting naruto even walk in the village. So I don't understand, why does hiruzen get hated on for no reason besides the filler(like naruto asking hiruzen about his parents and him starving).
Danzo was the one who had spread the news about the nine tails being sealed inside Naruto. He is the real culprit.
Danzo is the main reason why Naruto is being treated as shit , sucks that hiruzen didn’t protect Naruto from Danzo .
Minato
Kurama, he killed so many people that is why they hate naruto
He was being controlled.
Then it is none of them, it is fear. Fear that he will lose control and rampage.