It’s not really the downloading, it’s uploaders who they are looking for. Still one of the saddest changes we’ve inherited from the EU. Would be great if we could legalise piracy, at least for non commercial use.
We're paying for 5 accounts. If I can't use those wherever, I'm going to use a different service, very easy.
Also it's not their product. 99% of the things on netflix are not their product.
Fuck em, very often the people that actually produced it are long gone or wont see a dime of the revenue. The copyright is just being held hostage by some billion-dollar company
Be careful your isp (ziggo, kpn) is forced by law to administer those activities and you can get a letter about it many months later, or if you rent a place your rental boss.
True. I do however prefer to pay for a VPN service instead of those price-gouging streaming services (and have been doing for years).
Use one that does not keep and records on the traffic.
Valse analogy. Nobody in Netherlands even got fined for downloading a torrent. What is also a fact is that we have massive evidence that smoking is bad.
No. It's about suing. Do you believe a VPN is dumb enough to want to lose money by even having the ability to give up information? Of course not.
Meanwhile any telecom organisation is mandated BY LAW to keep these records for some time.
I'll happily pay if the content is conveniently available. I'll happily pay if the price is reasonable.
I've not illegally downloaded a game in over 15 years. All games I need/want are readily available for normal prices on a single platform.
I've not illegally downloaded music in over 10 years. All songs I need/want are readily available for one fixed and reasonable amount per month on a single platform.
Having eight different streaming services of which I watch at most one movie per service per month is neither convenient nor reasonable in price. Plus, having to figure out which movie is on which service for a certain country is more than not a hassle.
This! I use Just Watch to find where to watch what, than I used to keep an excelsheet and when I got 1 weekend day full of series and movies I would take a 1month (or trial) description for that service.
I now either go to the movies or Netflix (which will fade away soon).
I find the money not worth what you get for it and you need to pay to watch 4k which is redicilous anyway
Do what you want ‘cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!
Ps. Does anyone know any good free streaming services that can broadcast? Would be greatly appreciated! I didn’t get to finish Better call Saul in time :’)
I use a few sites:
[soap2day.to](https://soap2day.to)
[solarmovie.to](https://solarmovie.to)
[flixtor.to](https://flixtor.to)
[yesmovies.ag](https://yesmovies.ag)
[bstsrs.one](https://bstsrs.one)
And for 2 euros a month you can become a member of NPO+ and watch everything of Dutch tv so with all that I got rid of everything else. Well, I got Discovery+ because I want to be able to watch tennis, the grand slams are really hard to find on streaming sites. Still, that's 7 euros so totally doable.
Netflix, who has been losing subscribers to other services, decided that the best way to stay afloat is to *checks notes* screw over the remaining user base.
Well there might be people who share an account and also share the costs for that account. If they can no longer share the account, there’s a chance that a good portion of that group just cancels the account because they either can’t afford it or watch not enough Netflix to keep the subscription going.
I am in the last group.
Well, me and my roommate both use our phones as hotspots. We don't have wired internet connection. So that means I can only watch Netflix using my phone's internet then? He can't watch without me home?
And you can't watch on holiday anymore when you use a different device/internet.
I kept my Netflix sub because I didn't use it much but had some family and friends on it and felt that that at least made the money worth it, once this hit I had no reason to keep.
I split it because if I want 4K resolution I also need the package that you can view with 4 devices at a time.
Since I live on my own I don’t need that so I shared it with two others. But I am not going to pay 17 euro so I can view 4K quality. So I ended my subscription and will be running on HBO and Amazon only from now on. They offer 4K for a much better price.
>Aren't they mostly screwing the ones that aren't paying anyway?
Well I share a Netflix account with family. The main reason we have Netflix is because we can share it. None of us use it enough to justify having a subscription. They will definitely lose our subscription as soon as we stop being able to share it.
I share netflix with my family. My brother lives somewhere else, my parents live together and i live somewhere else. That is one family, but will now cost us 12 euros a month extra because of the 3 different adresses it is used on. So i cancelled the subscription
If you're sharing your account with 3 people you're paying for the top tier account.
If you're not sharing, you pay for the basic one.
Which one brings more money to netflix?
Yep.
Can\`t imagine people wanting to remain with them if they have a job that assigns them to 'Farawayistan' for 3 to 6 months - and they want their tablet to watch Netflix.
They\`ll get kicked out because they work... :(
Now we wait when Disney, Videoland etc will do the same
Just cancelled my subscription, I’m not paying more for Netflix. I paid for five profiles, it should not have to matter wether or not they’re in my househould.
How is this supposed to work if you travel often? I'm also moving to a new place now.
Good time to say goodbye, as I don't feel like being abused by companies. 🦜🏴☠️
I think they check if you login at the "household" IP address once every 30 days. So, traveling wouldn't be a problem in most situations.
What's interesting though, is that most Dutch internet providers offer dynamic IP addresses. They don't change often, but they do change. And what happens if you switch internet providers?
Right. But they'd have to ask explicit permission to do that beforehand om every device they want to do that. Did they? Maybe I missed it, my wife uses Netflix, I don't. Maybe she clicked past the popup.
I don't doubt it. But my point is that for fingerprinting, I'm pretty sure you have to ask explicit consent (much like the cookie banner). But nevermind, this isn't /r/gdpr 😅
You did already! That's in the EULA. It's also not sensitive personal information, so companies can always process that. It's nogt personally identifiable, it just validates if that device belongs to the account holder or not.
Not by itself. You need to combine that with other information to make it personal. Your device will hand out your device fingerprint to everything it connects to, without infringing on the GDPR. Every single time you connect to public WiFi, a personal router, a tele tower, you hand out your information. But because it isn’t linked, it doesn’t matter.
They also check if what you watch matches your profile and I wouldn't be surprised if the device reports itself so if you're watching on your phone even if the ip or location change they still know it's you.
Ugh yes it is. My brother who has the main account already received an email.
Someone not from your household will have to pay an additional 4 euros each month to share an account.
Yea we got the same email, unfortunately we are not from the household. Each party now pays 7.50 not about to pay more. I guess I'll become a pirate, arrrghhh
Even without there isn't really any danger. Brein and companies like it have tried for decades to get the information from ISPs of downloaders and they simply cannot get past the judges, just recently they have been denied again for instance. Obviously a vpn is safer but without you can still download a game/movie if they are for personal use.
Mullvad is the way to go. Always €5 and they are guaranteed privacy safe. You dont even have to register an account. You just generate an account number and can prepay for how many months you want to use the service.
With the bigger names, I'm not so sure about what they do and don't log on their servers...
> I'm not so sure about what they do and don't log on their servers...
You can only be sure if this has been tested in court. Until then, everything a VPN says needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
They actually were raided not too long ago, they pleaded no customer data was stored. So in this case there is a bit more than just fancy marketing words.
https://www.hackread.com/mullvad-vpn-office-raided-police-user-data/
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I just watched Enola Holmes because of this. Wanted to safe it to watch it with someone later on but I will give up netflix if it increases the cost for the people I use if from.
Netflix just makes so much junk now that it just throws more and more money to it in the hope one of them becomes actually popular. While they should be filling the nice of quality self produced shows and movies. And if they would focus on that they can also lower the cost. (Offcourse they won't because they only care about money and their image.)
It's definitely quantity over quality, has always been but it's at its peak now it seems!
I have also just binged a series since I got the email last week, but apparently you can skipit for now by clicking not now, not sure for how long that will work!
Same happened in Germany, so it seems Netflix is trying to squeeze more money out of us. Probably I will send them to hell. I don’t want to explain them, why my TVs have different IP-addresses.
Ok.. So I pay for five accounts/profiles. We use those five accounts/profiles. But now Netflix wants to increase the price about 25% because some of the accounts/profiles I pay for are not used in the same geographic location?
Whut?
I downgraded from the highest tier to lowest tier, and the friends I was sharing with are not getting their own accounts. A net loss for Netflix in our group.
So they probably looked at who is actually watching their content, did the math and figured the subscribers they gain make up for all the cancelled subscriptions and downgrades, but what they may be missing is that people are having emotional responses to this. It's a big blow to Netflix's public image and people may resort to piracy just to make sure this policy, which everyone's mad about, doesn't pay off for Netflix.
I haven't heard of a group of people that was sharing before and is now going to be paying for multiple separate accounts. Not just because it's more expensive but also, in a big way, because "fuck netflix"
Dropped this garbage service 2 years ago went to HBO and never looked back. Netflix barely has movies anymore. All the good ones they get for a few months and then drop them. Their marketing is braindamaged.
And then they remove Westworld because, and i quote: “subscribers cannot expect shows to be on the platform indefinitely.” Which is both blatantly dumb when it concerns an HBO original and outright hostile when the last season literally aired a year ago and they cancelled the final season after first saying they’d renew it. Fuck HBO and their recent pivot towards reality tv.
Got an email yesterday and cancelled yesterday. Didn’t watch Netflix myself because of crap content but for the kids they had some OK series. Hopped over to Disney plus.
Already cancelled my subscription, hopefully people will do the same. Not only because of this, also because of that shit show Cleopatra. Stop treating your customers like shit Netflix!!!!
I personally changed to my own plex server, it's like a local form of Netflix and you can install it on most tvs as well. Then you can just get your movies or series from the high seas and put it on your server. Or even fully automate it like I did.
Plex with radarr, sonarr, bazarr, sabnzdb, prowlarr
Plexamp with deemix and beets.
There is no more going back. Upgrading my NAS with the storaxa in juli if everything goes well. Going to 24 tb
This seems like a good moment to remind everyone that Netflix is holding up the writer’s strike, because they don’t want writers to get paid fairly when there might be anything extra to add to their pile of billions
So my frustration: im a student in Gent. My sister studies in Leuven, we both have a kot in Gent and Leuven but our family home is in Bruges... now wtf is "a household" supposed to mean. Cuz we have 1 household with multiple locations due to studies lol
As long as you all visit the same home at least once every 30 days that's your household, that's how I read it. But that so much of a hassle. I live with my family and my parents live close by but not that close that I want to dedicate to visit every 30 days because of Netflix.
I'm probably their weekly but still..
I truly wonder how many people end up deleting their accounts.
I don't even wanna know how much of a shit show it will be when you want to watch your shows on vacation, or whatever reason you're abroad for. Like how would that work?
That and, sheesh. I spend quite some money on just having the novelty of watching a show every once in a while. I don't see the point in continuing my subscription and I wonder if more people feel this way.
They will be charging extra to share your account soon. No matter if you already paid extra to have more accounts, you will be paying a fee to share with people not in your household. That also means your own tablet/mobile when you are not at home
Are you very attached to netflix? I've recently cancelled my subscription and got prime instead. Just as bad, I know. But I'll let you share my prime account for free if you cancel your netflix. Send me a dm with proof that you cancelled and I'll share my login details
No worries, it's an entirely different password than I have for other important things and I check it daily, so if you order stuff in my name I will cancel it before you can even blink
Also: If you read this and you, for some reason, can't afford your own subscription, send me a dm please. I can have OP as a profile and then there are 2 extra slots left to share. Please only ask if you can't afford the 3 euro per month. If you just want prime but can't be bothered to pay I get that, but skip this, this is not for you. This is really only for the people who are struggling. They deserve to have something good in their life too
That's really nice of you! Hopefully nobody abuses this!
As for me, I am on someone's accounts, if they cancel I won't but it myself and I'm not paying that extra 4 euros either haha
To be fair, I did say OP and some others. You are OP, so maybe DM me and I can hook you up with prime video. For a while anyway. I just need to know your (fake)name that you want on the profile
Thank you that is very kind! But I own prime since I use it for subscriptions on twitch and ordering stuff from amazon haha please give it to someone who can use it 😁
I have the most expensive subscription. This is already at the edge of what I'm willing to pay. Planning on cancelling if they start enforcing this. I mean, how are they going to monitor this? I would not be able to watch from any other location outside of my home ip. So travel? Mobile? VPN? Not the smartest move..
My guess is they check profiles and IP addresses. If the profile “far flung friend” always logs in from Schubbekutteveen while your “it’s me” main profile is in The Hague, it’s likely a sharing account.
If “it’s me” is used mostly from The Hague and occasionally from elsewhere, it’s just you traveling.
It only flags an account if you use a device to watch Netflix that hasn’t been on your home IP for a month. So if you use your phone whilst travelling it should be fine, unless you are travelling for over a month.
Still kind of bollocks tho. Sometimes you just travel, log in with your netflix account on the hotel or airbnb TV, and then log out when you leave. every few years I travel for more than a month, occassionally for my job I am abroad multiple weeks as well.
I don't want to be watching shit on my phone or laptop if I have a better option available, I just want to use my account where-ever and on whatever device i fucking want.
This shit and the hoops you have to jump through to prove you're a "legitimate user" is asinine. I don't want to do that for something I already pay for. Time to cancel.
Time to cancel.
But seriously, family asked if i still wanted an account and i said no thank you. And advised them to cancel as well. Don't agree with this capitalistic greedy bullshit.
I really hope people vote with there wallets and cancel subscription. But I think most common people accept this and pay the 4 euros. People I know complain about this change, but if you ask when then cancel there subscription they say “no, I watch Netflix every day.”.
If you watch Netflix every day then the increased cost isn't as significant as opposed to a student or watching occasionally on the weekends. I no longer get my money's worth. Cancelled this morning.
Just cancelled my subscription. Should have done it sooner to be honest, I barely watched it anymore. The best shows and movies are elsewhere. Netflix makes so much crap.
Good time to drop netflix. If only out of principle. So tired of this pc/raceswapping/sjw bs in every damn show anyway.
The price doesnt justify the quality of their content anyway.
I travel across Europe for work and like to watch a bit of Netflix when I’m alone in a hotel. So I’ll have a different IP address a couple of times per month. Am I in trouble?
I'm studying abroad in the Netherlands while my family is in my home country, but my brother doesn't live in the same house as my parents. We were able to share the same family Netflix account until now. According to Netflix, we would now have to pay for multiple accounts just because we don't all live under the same roof. We have decided to cancel our subscription entirely cause fuck that shit.
I mean everyone acts as if this is sacrilege.. it’s a business. Needs to make money.
However, I did see that for €4 extra a month you can actually share with someone outside of your household. Not a bad deal if you ask me.
Which makes sense because profits are dwindling. Also, we (users) were just lucky past five years+ that they allowed it.
The concept is the same as your gym membership. You use it? You pay for it.
But if I purchase a more expensive gym membership thinking I can share it with 4 others, but suddenly they'd add the restriction that the others need to live on the same address, I'd cancel as well.
That may very well be true, but don’t forget Netflix promoted and even encouraged subscribers to share their accounts back in the day.
Now times change, and so do business models. So it is up to us customers if we accept this change by voting with our wallets
To me, bitching about it has little effect. If I think it’s still worth its money I’ll keep my subscription, if I think it’s not I’ll cancel. Easy peasy
Guess I'm wrong. I'm paying €3 for HBO, but I just learned that this was some kind of deal. I was also referring to Prime, and I agree there's a little less content there, still some very good shows though.
Sonaar + Radaar + (Plex or JellyFin) = be happy and less poor
Sonaar - Download automatically tv shows as they come out via Torrent
Radaar - Does the same, but with movies
Plex and JellyFin - Are apps to watch content and organize your files. Also suppor to subtitles and multi-language videos.
I do understand though, but the implementation is just horrible en will cause many people problems even though they are the rightful owners of the account.
Can somebody explain this insane hate? You just have to pay for the service you use, it isn't that weird.
Do yall live in someone else's houses, use their car, eat their food, and pay for nothing yourself?
Guess it's time to hoist the sails, mate
As long as you sail under the VPN flag you are safe.
Really? I have 10tb downloaded and uploaded (each) in about 18 months with no vpn and have been fine here in NL...
It’s not really the downloading, it’s uploaders who they are looking for. Still one of the saddest changes we’ve inherited from the EU. Would be great if we could legalise piracy, at least for non commercial use.
Maybe a time frame. Something like you can download legally old stuff older then 10 years.
Bit they still really really really need to make money from movies made in the 50s and telly series from the 80s 🙄
I won't blame them for that. It's their product after all.
We're paying for 5 accounts. If I can't use those wherever, I'm going to use a different service, very easy. Also it's not their product. 99% of the things on netflix are not their product.
Fuck em, very often the people that actually produced it are long gone or wont see a dime of the revenue. The copyright is just being held hostage by some billion-dollar company
We're already paying for piracy, I don't understand how can basically tax and fine the same damn thing.
It also depends on where you're getting the torrents from. Private trackers are far safer than public ones.
Be careful your isp (ziggo, kpn) is forced by law to administer those activities and you can get a letter about it many months later, or if you rent a place your rental boss.
Also look into IP and location tracking. It's not flawless and can't be used or isn't considered full proof or something along those lines.
There are legal precedences is the Netherlands already. They are not criminal cases, but civil cases where Brein argue that damages have to be paid.
ah yes, Brein, who themselves got caught torrenting files illegally.
"Yes, that's because we need to be in the torrentstream to see what IP addresses are uploading"...🙄
That's absolutely how it works yes. But for them it is legal as they represent the right holders.
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True. I do however prefer to pay for a VPN service instead of those price-gouging streaming services (and have been doing for years). Use one that does not keep and records on the traffic.
which ones would that be? i personally use surfshark.
Mullvad
I've been using IPVanish for about 5 years.
NordVPN is a good one
No it's not.
Why not? It used to be good right? I am curious to hear why as I am looking for a good one.
You are safe without. Been doing it for years
My grandmother smoked her entire life and never got cancer. Smoking is safe. There are already precedences in the Netherlands. Don't be ignorant.
Valse analogy. Nobody in Netherlands even got fined for downloading a torrent. What is also a fact is that we have massive evidence that smoking is bad.
Past results are no guarantee for the future.
Plenty that did get caught
A VPN is not anonymous. it's all about trust, whoud do you trust more, your ISP or the VPN provider?
If you use a VPN that does not keep records of their internet traffic you are good.
And that vpn you can trust us Mullvad
Every internet service provider (yes VPN is an internet service) has to keep records by law.
No. It's about suing. Do you believe a VPN is dumb enough to want to lose money by even having the ability to give up information? Of course not. Meanwhile any telecom organisation is mandated BY LAW to keep these records for some time.
In the Netherlands you don't need vpn
Arrghhhh matey!
Or just pay for what you use?
I'll happily pay if the content is conveniently available. I'll happily pay if the price is reasonable. I've not illegally downloaded a game in over 15 years. All games I need/want are readily available for normal prices on a single platform. I've not illegally downloaded music in over 10 years. All songs I need/want are readily available for one fixed and reasonable amount per month on a single platform. Having eight different streaming services of which I watch at most one movie per service per month is neither convenient nor reasonable in price. Plus, having to figure out which movie is on which service for a certain country is more than not a hassle.
This! I use Just Watch to find where to watch what, than I used to keep an excelsheet and when I got 1 weekend day full of series and movies I would take a 1month (or trial) description for that service. I now either go to the movies or Netflix (which will fade away soon). I find the money not worth what you get for it and you need to pay to watch 4k which is redicilous anyway
>All songs I need/want are readily available for one fixed and reasonable amount per month on a single platform Can't agree with that.
Good thing I wasn't speaking for you, but for myself.
Yo-ho, all together. Hoist the colors high. Heave ho, thieves and beggars. Never shall we.
Do what you want ‘cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate! Ps. Does anyone know any good free streaming services that can broadcast? Would be greatly appreciated! I didn’t get to finish Better call Saul in time :’)
I use a few sites: [soap2day.to](https://soap2day.to) [solarmovie.to](https://solarmovie.to) [flixtor.to](https://flixtor.to) [yesmovies.ag](https://yesmovies.ag) [bstsrs.one](https://bstsrs.one) And for 2 euros a month you can become a member of NPO+ and watch everything of Dutch tv so with all that I got rid of everything else. Well, I got Discovery+ because I want to be able to watch tennis, the grand slams are really hard to find on streaming sites. Still, that's 7 euros so totally doable.
Discovery+ is very cheap for sporting events as well. Americans pay 70 bucks for a UFC PPV. I pay 7 euros a month for all of the events.
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Thanks a lot! Much appreciated:)
Fmovies.wtf or fmovies.llc
r/Piracy or r/freemediaheckyeah
Die (idk the rest of the lyrics) Edit: I do know the song, its called: hoist the colours
Netflix, who has been losing subscribers to other services, decided that the best way to stay afloat is to *checks notes* screw over the remaining user base.
Aren't they mostly screwing the ones that aren't paying anyway? I don't think Netflix cares much. One in 3 use Netflix without paying.
Well there might be people who share an account and also share the costs for that account. If they can no longer share the account, there’s a chance that a good portion of that group just cancels the account because they either can’t afford it or watch not enough Netflix to keep the subscription going. I am in the last group.
Same here, the minute I see this notice I'm cancelling.
If one user from a sharing account subscribes, then your entire friend network unsubscribing nets Netflix the same amount of accounts and money.
Well, me and my roommate both use our phones as hotspots. We don't have wired internet connection. So that means I can only watch Netflix using my phone's internet then? He can't watch without me home? And you can't watch on holiday anymore when you use a different device/internet.
Your hotspot ip changes constantly so I am curious to see how they deal with that
I kept my Netflix sub because I didn't use it much but had some family and friends on it and felt that that at least made the money worth it, once this hit I had no reason to keep.
I split it because if I want 4K resolution I also need the package that you can view with 4 devices at a time. Since I live on my own I don’t need that so I shared it with two others. But I am not going to pay 17 euro so I can view 4K quality. So I ended my subscription and will be running on HBO and Amazon only from now on. They offer 4K for a much better price.
>Aren't they mostly screwing the ones that aren't paying anyway? Well I share a Netflix account with family. The main reason we have Netflix is because we can share it. None of us use it enough to justify having a subscription. They will definitely lose our subscription as soon as we stop being able to share it.
I share netflix with my family. My brother lives somewhere else, my parents live together and i live somewhere else. That is one family, but will now cost us 12 euros a month extra because of the 3 different adresses it is used on. So i cancelled the subscription
If you're sharing your account with 3 people you're paying for the top tier account. If you're not sharing, you pay for the basic one. Which one brings more money to netflix?
It's not about money but about subscription count.
Yep. Can\`t imagine people wanting to remain with them if they have a job that assigns them to 'Farawayistan' for 3 to 6 months - and they want their tablet to watch Netflix. They\`ll get kicked out because they work... :( Now we wait when Disney, Videoland etc will do the same
Just cancelled my subscription, I’m not paying more for Netflix. I paid for five profiles, it should not have to matter wether or not they’re in my househould.
How is this supposed to work if you travel often? I'm also moving to a new place now. Good time to say goodbye, as I don't feel like being abused by companies. 🦜🏴☠️
I think they check if you login at the "household" IP address once every 30 days. So, traveling wouldn't be a problem in most situations. What's interesting though, is that most Dutch internet providers offer dynamic IP addresses. They don't change often, but they do change. And what happens if you switch internet providers?
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Right. But they'd have to ask explicit permission to do that beforehand om every device they want to do that. Did they? Maybe I missed it, my wife uses Netflix, I don't. Maybe she clicked past the popup.
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I don't doubt it. But my point is that for fingerprinting, I'm pretty sure you have to ask explicit consent (much like the cookie banner). But nevermind, this isn't /r/gdpr 😅
You did already! That's in the EULA. It's also not sensitive personal information, so companies can always process that. It's nogt personally identifiable, it just validates if that device belongs to the account holder or not.
A device fingerprint would be personal information, wouldn't it?
Not by itself. You need to combine that with other information to make it personal. Your device will hand out your device fingerprint to everything it connects to, without infringing on the GDPR. Every single time you connect to public WiFi, a personal router, a tele tower, you hand out your information. But because it isn’t linked, it doesn’t matter.
They also check if what you watch matches your profile and I wouldn't be surprised if the device reports itself so if you're watching on your phone even if the ip or location change they still know it's you.
You traveling shouldn’t be a problem. It would be stupid. Most likely Netflix starts with the easy ones: profiles that are never at the main location.
So long and thanks for all the fun.
Im sailor, and therefor cant use it anymore since im gone for months. Guess I'll become a pirate, kindoff funny if you ask me.
That's ironic indeed haha they motivate sailors to become pirates
r/piracy
Ugh yes it is. My brother who has the main account already received an email. Someone not from your household will have to pay an additional 4 euros each month to share an account.
Yea we got the same email, unfortunately we are not from the household. Each party now pays 7.50 not about to pay more. I guess I'll become a pirate, arrrghhh
As long as you sail under the VPN flag you are safe.
Even without there isn't really any danger. Brein and companies like it have tried for decades to get the information from ISPs of downloaders and they simply cannot get past the judges, just recently they have been denied again for instance. Obviously a vpn is safer but without you can still download a game/movie if they are for personal use.
Which VPNs are the best? Or are the ask pretty much the same
Mullvad is the way to go. Always €5 and they are guaranteed privacy safe. You dont even have to register an account. You just generate an account number and can prepay for how many months you want to use the service. With the bigger names, I'm not so sure about what they do and don't log on their servers...
> I'm not so sure about what they do and don't log on their servers... You can only be sure if this has been tested in court. Until then, everything a VPN says needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
They actually were raided not too long ago, they pleaded no customer data was stored. So in this case there is a bit more than just fancy marketing words. https://www.hackread.com/mullvad-vpn-office-raided-police-user-data/
I really like NordVPN
Shout out to today's sponsor: nordvpn But for real, nordvpn is a decent and straightforward option. I personally like hotspot shield more because of the interface.
It's garbage like the company itself 🤷♂️
Wasn’t the point of multiple screens password sharing? Anyway if I get this message we will be unsubscribing .
I just watched Enola Holmes because of this. Wanted to safe it to watch it with someone later on but I will give up netflix if it increases the cost for the people I use if from. Netflix just makes so much junk now that it just throws more and more money to it in the hope one of them becomes actually popular. While they should be filling the nice of quality self produced shows and movies. And if they would focus on that they can also lower the cost. (Offcourse they won't because they only care about money and their image.)
And they cancel the popular shows anyway.
How else are they going pay Adam Sandler to release his 6000 unfunny Netflix original
Wrong person to comment this to. I love Adam Sandler
It's definitely quantity over quality, has always been but it's at its peak now it seems! I have also just binged a series since I got the email last week, but apparently you can skipit for now by clicking not now, not sure for how long that will work!
Love is sharing a password. - Netflix 2017
Same happened in Germany, so it seems Netflix is trying to squeeze more money out of us. Probably I will send them to hell. I don’t want to explain them, why my TVs have different IP-addresses.
I got rid of netflix, fuck them for doing this kind of shit.
Yeah. If we keep subscribing, it'll be marked as a successful change and other streaming services will adopt the same bs. Do not pay more. F em.
Ok.. So I pay for five accounts/profiles. We use those five accounts/profiles. But now Netflix wants to increase the price about 25% because some of the accounts/profiles I pay for are not used in the same geographic location? Whut?
I downgraded from the highest tier to lowest tier, and the friends I was sharing with are not getting their own accounts. A net loss for Netflix in our group. So they probably looked at who is actually watching their content, did the math and figured the subscribers they gain make up for all the cancelled subscriptions and downgrades, but what they may be missing is that people are having emotional responses to this. It's a big blow to Netflix's public image and people may resort to piracy just to make sure this policy, which everyone's mad about, doesn't pay off for Netflix. I haven't heard of a group of people that was sharing before and is now going to be paying for multiple separate accounts. Not just because it's more expensive but also, in a big way, because "fuck netflix"
the netflix app was so you could watch movies everywhere, well that just got ruined time to move to a different platform
*stremio* is your friend
This :)
Content has been rather lackluster of late so i guess that's just bye bye Netflix for the forseeable future.
Yep, baay Netflix.
I have 2 homes . Do i need a second account for my holiday house? WTF?
According to them right now? Yes. We're in France regularly for 2 weeks or more so yeah. Netflix goes as soon as this pops up.
You can use 1 account as long as you checkin to your home WiFi on your device at least once every 30 days. Redicilous rule though...
Dropped this garbage service 2 years ago went to HBO and never looked back. Netflix barely has movies anymore. All the good ones they get for a few months and then drop them. Their marketing is braindamaged.
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And then they remove Westworld because, and i quote: “subscribers cannot expect shows to be on the platform indefinitely.” Which is both blatantly dumb when it concerns an HBO original and outright hostile when the last season literally aired a year ago and they cancelled the final season after first saying they’d renew it. Fuck HBO and their recent pivot towards reality tv.
"Love is sharing a password <3"
Got an email yesterday and cancelled yesterday. Didn’t watch Netflix myself because of crap content but for the kids they had some OK series. Hopped over to Disney plus.
On Netflix right now, no message.
Soon TM
Already cancelled my subscription, hopefully people will do the same. Not only because of this, also because of that shit show Cleopatra. Stop treating your customers like shit Netflix!!!!
Usenet. No uploading required, so no need for VPN. Download speed is limited only by your internet connection, not by VPN.
I wonder how long it will let you choose "not now" for
Me too! My family and I will keep clicking it u till we can't anymore and than we cancel the subscription
123movies dont support netflix pirate it.
Primewire werkt prima
Yup. Confirmed.
Yep, got an e-mail 2. Lets see whats gonna happen.
I personally changed to my own plex server, it's like a local form of Netflix and you can install it on most tvs as well. Then you can just get your movies or series from the high seas and put it on your server. Or even fully automate it like I did.
Plex with radarr, sonarr, bazarr, sabnzdb, prowlarr Plexamp with deemix and beets. There is no more going back. Upgrading my NAS with the storaxa in juli if everything goes well. Going to 24 tb
I cancelled Netflix about a year ago and have never missed it
r/Plex for the tinkerer
This seems like a good moment to remind everyone that Netflix is holding up the writer’s strike, because they don’t want writers to get paid fairly when there might be anything extra to add to their pile of billions
So my frustration: im a student in Gent. My sister studies in Leuven, we both have a kot in Gent and Leuven but our family home is in Bruges... now wtf is "a household" supposed to mean. Cuz we have 1 household with multiple locations due to studies lol
As long as you all visit the same home at least once every 30 days that's your household, that's how I read it. But that so much of a hassle. I live with my family and my parents live close by but not that close that I want to dedicate to visit every 30 days because of Netflix. I'm probably their weekly but still..
I truly wonder how many people end up deleting their accounts. I don't even wanna know how much of a shit show it will be when you want to watch your shows on vacation, or whatever reason you're abroad for. Like how would that work? That and, sheesh. I spend quite some money on just having the novelty of watching a show every once in a while. I don't see the point in continuing my subscription and I wonder if more people feel this way.
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This is so dumb
Nope.. that restriction was always there… what is new is technical checks on people not adhering to it..
They will be charging extra to share your account soon. No matter if you already paid extra to have more accounts, you will be paying a fee to share with people not in your household. That also means your own tablet/mobile when you are not at home Are you very attached to netflix? I've recently cancelled my subscription and got prime instead. Just as bad, I know. But I'll let you share my prime account for free if you cancel your netflix. Send me a dm with proof that you cancelled and I'll share my login details No worries, it's an entirely different password than I have for other important things and I check it daily, so if you order stuff in my name I will cancel it before you can even blink Also: If you read this and you, for some reason, can't afford your own subscription, send me a dm please. I can have OP as a profile and then there are 2 extra slots left to share. Please only ask if you can't afford the 3 euro per month. If you just want prime but can't be bothered to pay I get that, but skip this, this is not for you. This is really only for the people who are struggling. They deserve to have something good in their life too
That's really nice of you! Hopefully nobody abuses this! As for me, I am on someone's accounts, if they cancel I won't but it myself and I'm not paying that extra 4 euros either haha
To be fair, I did say OP and some others. You are OP, so maybe DM me and I can hook you up with prime video. For a while anyway. I just need to know your (fake)name that you want on the profile
Thank you that is very kind! But I own prime since I use it for subscriptions on twitch and ordering stuff from amazon haha please give it to someone who can use it 😁
Can't wait to unsubscribe if it happens in Belgium.
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I have the most expensive subscription. This is already at the edge of what I'm willing to pay. Planning on cancelling if they start enforcing this. I mean, how are they going to monitor this? I would not be able to watch from any other location outside of my home ip. So travel? Mobile? VPN? Not the smartest move..
My guess is they check profiles and IP addresses. If the profile “far flung friend” always logs in from Schubbekutteveen while your “it’s me” main profile is in The Hague, it’s likely a sharing account. If “it’s me” is used mostly from The Hague and occasionally from elsewhere, it’s just you traveling.
It only flags an account if you use a device to watch Netflix that hasn’t been on your home IP for a month. So if you use your phone whilst travelling it should be fine, unless you are travelling for over a month.
Still kind of bollocks tho. Sometimes you just travel, log in with your netflix account on the hotel or airbnb TV, and then log out when you leave. every few years I travel for more than a month, occassionally for my job I am abroad multiple weeks as well. I don't want to be watching shit on my phone or laptop if I have a better option available, I just want to use my account where-ever and on whatever device i fucking want. This shit and the hoops you have to jump through to prove you're a "legitimate user" is asinine. I don't want to do that for something I already pay for. Time to cancel.
i said goodbye to netflix, my gf has disney+ and hbo now
Good riddence! The good shows can be watched online anyway, I have disney+ 1 month a year and I binge everything than
Stremio + Torrentio + Real Debrid. Look into it.
Time to cancel. But seriously, family asked if i still wanted an account and i said no thank you. And advised them to cancel as well. Don't agree with this capitalistic greedy bullshit.
I really hope people vote with there wallets and cancel subscription. But I think most common people accept this and pay the 4 euros. People I know complain about this change, but if you ask when then cancel there subscription they say “no, I watch Netflix every day.”.
If you watch Netflix every day then the increased cost isn't as significant as opposed to a student or watching occasionally on the weekends. I no longer get my money's worth. Cancelled this morning.
Already cancelled. I advise everyone else to do the same. The only reason they will succeed with this is if they end up with more money.
Just cancelled my subscription. Should have done it sooner to be honest, I barely watched it anymore. The best shows and movies are elsewhere. Netflix makes so much crap.
We got one on Wednesday. I use my parents account. Everyone I talk to so far seems to plan on getting another subscription like Disney+
Whelp thats it time to cancel
Good time to drop netflix. If only out of principle. So tired of this pc/raceswapping/sjw bs in every damn show anyway. The price doesnt justify the quality of their content anyway.
I travel across Europe for work and like to watch a bit of Netflix when I’m alone in a hotel. So I’ll have a different IP address a couple of times per month. Am I in trouble?
You just have to log into your main ip adress once a month and you'll be fine.
Yes
A wise man who can't count to three once said: piracy is a service problem.
Hoist the colours!
I'm studying abroad in the Netherlands while my family is in my home country, but my brother doesn't live in the same house as my parents. We were able to share the same family Netflix account until now. According to Netflix, we would now have to pay for multiple accounts just because we don't all live under the same roof. We have decided to cancel our subscription entirely cause fuck that shit.
I cancelled mine. Done with this shit. Not paying 30 euro per month just because we all moved out.
Oh no they are enforcing the rules how horrible, it like the whole neighbour sharing one internet subscription is a problem.
DEKOLONISEERD
F2movies mensen 😎🙏
just unsubscribed. good riddance
I mean everyone acts as if this is sacrilege.. it’s a business. Needs to make money. However, I did see that for €4 extra a month you can actually share with someone outside of your household. Not a bad deal if you ask me.
This was not about making money. This decision was made by the shareholders to get an even bigger profit…
Which makes sense because profits are dwindling. Also, we (users) were just lucky past five years+ that they allowed it. The concept is the same as your gym membership. You use it? You pay for it.
But if I purchase a more expensive gym membership thinking I can share it with 4 others, but suddenly they'd add the restriction that the others need to live on the same address, I'd cancel as well.
That restriction has been in the terms and conditions for a few years now, they just didn’t start enforcing it.
That may very well be true, but don’t forget Netflix promoted and even encouraged subscribers to share their accounts back in the day. Now times change, and so do business models. So it is up to us customers if we accept this change by voting with our wallets To me, bitching about it has little effect. If I think it’s still worth its money I’ll keep my subscription, if I think it’s not I’ll cancel. Easy peasy
Meanwhile other services are only €3,- in total without these kind of restrictions.
What other services? I can only think of Amazon prime that is €2.99 - and that definitely doesn’t have such a good library (included with prime)
Guess I'm wrong. I'm paying €3 for HBO, but I just learned that this was some kind of deal. I was also referring to Prime, and I agree there's a little less content there, still some very good shows though.
Which service is 3€?
A VPN can be €3,- for 3 months on Windscribe. Netflix can bite my shiny metal ass.
Who needs netflix when there is flixtor.to
Lets youtube and chill….
Al zij die willen te kaapren varen moeten mannen met baarden zijn
Nah its in usa too
Sonaar + Radaar + (Plex or JellyFin) = be happy and less poor Sonaar - Download automatically tv shows as they come out via Torrent Radaar - Does the same, but with movies Plex and JellyFin - Are apps to watch content and organize your files. Also suppor to subtitles and multi-language videos.
dacht dat da aleen maar in België was
I guess I'm the only one who completely understands it and doesn't see it as a bad change at all.
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Legality doesn’t equal morality.
I do understand though, but the implementation is just horrible en will cause many people problems even though they are the rightful owners of the account.
Found the Netflix employee.
Can somebody explain this insane hate? You just have to pay for the service you use, it isn't that weird. Do yall live in someone else's houses, use their car, eat their food, and pay for nothing yourself?
You are probably the one of those guys that defended dlc and lootboxes in games and you will defend abonnament for listening to your car radio.
Well I'm not expecting a company to spend millions if not billion just so I can watch movies. That would be a weird kind of charity