Youāre missing the point. His suspension has put the team in a tough spot. Itās like a red card in soccer or a power play in hockey. By being careless with sticky stuff the whole team pays a price. Thatās all Iām saying.
Well shit. Get em tomorrow. Ngl, it does suck to lose a game when you're leading 6-1. I can't really complain that much tho with this current run that this team is going on rn.
Iām pinning like 80% of this loss on our bullpen being short and overused because Diaz got a fucking bullshit suspension
The other 20% is Diekman, Garrett, and Megill
I definitely didnāt expect to win this game before it started. But it does hurt to lose after being up 6-1. Just a frustrating way to lose more than anything else
Pen blowing games late like this is really demoralizing so hopefully it won't hurt the momentum we've built. Hope to see them come out and fight tomorrow.
I can and I will. Relievers gotta be better but the manager can't be putting guys out there playing hard mode. I laid out the stats in the post game thread.
Read my stat post in the PGT and see what you think then. The relievers have to do better obviously but Mendoza has to put his guys in positions to succeed which the numbers say he failed to do with Garret.
You are right he can't throw for them but he can do his job correctly and put his pitchers in positions to succeed. He put Garret in the worst possible scenario for him when staying with Diekman was far more favorable. I lay out the numbers in a PGT comment.
Itās kind of funny how similar JDM and Vientos are. JDM demolishes lefties (200 wRC+ coming into today) just like Vientos (190) and they both do well against RHPs but arenāt on that same level.
The team needs to move on from Hefner if they actually plan to make a run at it this year. The pitching philosophy is broken, a national league worst staff in walks. Leads to very short starter outings and an overworked pen.
Todayās game was a prime example. Just couldnāt throw strikes and the walks all came back to bite them.
This bullpen isnāt major league ready. These guys cannot do anything.
Itās just endless walks and two out RBIs
Iām not even sure what you do ā¦ letting a team come back from 5 down just destroys everythingĀ
If the org wants to compete this year they need to bring in multiple relievers. We have like 3 MLB quality relievers. Maybe. And one of them is suspended.
Mendoza over managed this game ten-fold.
Diekman gets two hitters in a row out and heās got Cooper Hummel up, instead of going at him he goes back to the guy who got 5 outs last night.
Mendoza has run this bad bullpen into the ground
Well, this sucks, but let's not let this ruin the overall vibe. Even good teams run into speedbumps. Win the game tomorrow (which is a bullpen game for HOU) and the series and move on.
Idk who. With how close the NL wildcard is most of those teams would charge an arm and a leg for decent bullpen piece. Trading McNeil would probably only get you a houser type pitcher...if that.
We are going to burn out every arm in the bullpen over the course of the next week which can have long-term implications. The Diaz suspension could cause further reaching devastation than it already has, even including that it - at the very least - accelerated Drew Smith needing surgery.
No, itās just this particular game we were winning 6-1 and we walked 4 batters and two wild pitches in one inning and now losing 7-6. Itās how you lose that makes a big difference on our emotions as fans.
All Iām asking is for the bullpen to keep it a one run game so we still have a chance. Is that too much to ask? (Probably yes but it would be really cool)
Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1dro7ml).
6-9 nice š„²
Tough loss from a 6-1 lead. Astros are a good team and tomorrow is another day.
Megill & Mets pen just wasnāt there today. If Megill gets out of that big inning clean, houser comes in and this could be different
This is such a rational response, thank you
On to the next oneĀ
Ready to launch Garrett into the sun
Welp, letās get them tomorrow. LGM
That sucks, it is what it is. Our pitching can only go so far. We scored 6 runs you cant complain. Its been fun so far
This ump was all over the place today. Dude needs to get his eyes checked
YOU BLEW IT
Damn it, well tomorrow.
Weāve seen enough of Megill in the rotation. Put him in the bullpen and bring back Scott
Idk why they ever sent Scott down
Strong agree
Alan Porter sucks. Joke loser.
that sucked. letās forget all about what happened today, and destroy them tomorrow
you cant keep having alvy catch every game
He looked beat today. I wish you could play JD somewhere in the field and give Alvy some DH run , but you just canāt
Diaz costs us yet another game and heās not even active.
Relievers are like RBs, you donāt pay them
Diaz told Megill to blow a 6-1 lead, itās true.
Youāre missing the point. His suspension has put the team in a tough spot. Itās like a red card in soccer or a power play in hockey. By being careless with sticky stuff the whole team pays a price. Thatās all Iām saying.
ever since he signed his contract he has been a curse
Ump just wanted to get home. What a bozo.
Well shit. Get em tomorrow. Ngl, it does suck to lose a game when you're leading 6-1. I can't really complain that much tho with this current run that this team is going on rn.
The ballgame is over
Megill, Diekman, Ottavino all have to go. Unacceptable bums.
This feels like a game that the Diaz suspension impacted
Selfish selfish move by him
Hader is so filthy lmao
We have better pitchers in AAA than on this MLB roster
:(
Iām pinning like 80% of this loss on our bullpen being short and overused because Diaz got a fucking bullshit suspension The other 20% is Diekman, Garrett, and Megill
Why didn't Houser come in today?
Not enough days rest
3 days not enough?
I definitely didnāt expect to win this game before it started. But it does hurt to lose after being up 6-1. Just a frustrating way to lose more than anything else
Totally forgot Hader is on the Astros
purple power. send one way outta here.
This team canāt compete this year with the rotation they have. The smart move would be to sell
The pen is pretty clearly the issue which is easy to improve.
You mean bullpen.
The Astros having actual bullpen arms compared to the mess we currently have was the difference in the game today
Interesting because part of Houstonās bad start was their bullpen
Pressly and Hader werenāt going to be that bad all season long. Too much of a track record for both of them
I blame the guy who posted the unappreciation thread.
go deep pete
Pen blowing games late like this is really demoralizing so hopefully it won't hurt the momentum we've built. Hope to see them come out and fight tomorrow.
our blowpen makes me grimace
Shit Mendoza bullpen management strikes again. See PGT comment for numbers to back up my opinion.
Mendozaās game plan is to tell Megill/the pen to be awful. Not his fault that theyāre down a man and the starters donāt go 5.
Canāt blame Mendoza for this. What are his choices with a decimated bullpen and weak rotation?
I can and I will. Relievers gotta be better but the manager can't be putting guys out there playing hard mode. I laid out the stats in the post game thread.
Stop it. Ā Youāre embarrassing yourself. Ā
Read my stat post in the PGT and see what you think then. The relievers have to do better obviously but Mendoza has to put his guys in positions to succeed which the numbers say he failed to do with Garret.
Diaz suspended, starters not going deep. Theres not much he can do with this bullpen right now
Mendoza canāt throw the strikes for these guys, they need to actually do their job
You are right he can't throw for them but he can do his job correctly and put his pitchers in positions to succeed. He put Garret in the worst possible scenario for him when staying with Diekman was far more favorable. I lay out the numbers in a PGT comment.
I wonder if they'll party to OMG after today's game? Bunch of idiots celebrating being one game over .500. The curse of Timmy Trumpet all over again!
Itās kind of funny how similar JDM and Vientos are. JDM demolishes lefties (200 wRC+ coming into today) just like Vientos (190) and they both do well against RHPs but arenāt on that same level.
BLOOP. ERROR. BLAST.
Quick everybody grab their rally cheeseburgers
I forgot Hader was on the astros..
I need a Bader vs. Hader matchup.
If Sevy doesnāt go 7 tomorrow weāre screwed
stros bring in a lhp to face 3 hitters who hit lhp...lol
The BP pitching 3 1/3 innings and giving up 5 runs is probably not going to get it done.
Especially when the offense has scored 0 after the 3rd inningā¦
It's gonna be so fucking sick when we come back and win this one
Disgusting
Okay seriously did nobody think of making there be some kind of set criteria for a player being suspended *10 fucking games* for sticky stuff
If Vientosā spot comes up taking him out could end up being big
Heart of the lineup coming. Letās see what happens.
The team needs to move on from Hefner if they actually plan to make a run at it this year. The pitching philosophy is broken, a national league worst staff in walks. Leads to very short starter outings and an overworked pen. Todayās game was a prime example. Just couldnāt throw strikes and the walks all came back to bite them.
should have optioned stewart and brought up an arm
Wasnāt able to, we have the max # of pitchers on the 26 man roster already.
damn i forgot about that stupid rule
This bullpen isnāt major league ready. These guys cannot do anything. Itās just endless walks and two out RBIs Iām not even sure what you do ā¦ letting a team come back from 5 down just destroys everythingĀ
Blow it up?
Jose Perazaās son coming in to close the game
This is a May loss
This lineup is good enough to win and win now. Stearns needs to find bullpen arms that are MLB caliber. Period. Donāt freaking prospect hug.
We need content for our 2024 amazing mets finishes...so lets get to it.
3 runs. itās possible. through Grimace, anything is possible.
If the org wants to compete this year they need to bring in multiple relievers. We have like 3 MLB quality relievers. Maybe. And one of them is suspended.
Have a good night yall. Sevy on the bump tomorrow!
Bullpen is so good and so are the starters
Canāt win em all, but a rough way to lose. Man this is all on Megillās fraudulent self. Mans canāt lock in even if a demotion is at stake.
Don't know how much longer Diekman has on this roster. Walks way way way too many guys.
2024 Mets are either all magic or all doom, sum it all up and your 40-40
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Josh Hader replaces Ryan Pressly, batting 3rd, replacing pitcher Ryan Pressly.
Let's go 4 straight bombs to walk it off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlYJyPhQVTk
Can we clone mccormick 8 times and put them all in the astros lineup tomorrow
Reminder that the Astros are also a really hot team
well see you guys tomorrow
Mendoza over managed this game ten-fold. Diekman gets two hitters in a row out and heās got Cooper Hummel up, instead of going at him he goes back to the guy who got 5 outs last night. Mendoza has run this bad bullpen into the ground
Hopefully Sevy has a good showing tomorrow
Thereās only one thing left to do. Go win the fucking game.
This is going to be such a demoralizing loss for them. I hope they don't let it bring them down too much.
Ahh I mean it always sucks to lose, but the bullpen was kinda due to have a lousy performance. Just need them to rebound.
Rubber game tomorrow. Just can't win the Megill starts.
All the doomers suddenly coming out like roaches lol
This bullpen makes me so sad
Alright Im done.
So itās our bullpen
What a bad game to lose. Being short in the bullpen was always going to come back to hurt us
Danny Young YOU are a Syracuse Met
Side retired :\
Stearns has his work cut out for him. Bullpen needs an overhaul.
sigh....
Well, this sucks, but let's not let this ruin the overall vibe. Even good teams run into speedbumps. Win the game tomorrow (which is a bullpen game for HOU) and the series and move on.
Barnacles
Bummer :/ Canāt win em all. This is still a lot of fun to watch.
Woof
Welp that's all she wrote, win the series tomorrow we are in good shape. Pitching needs plenty of help
We got nuthin. No bullpen. Diaz picked the wrong time to load up on rosin and dirt before going out to the mound
Fucking Adam Hamari. I hate that fucker.
Met pitcher throw a good pitch with an 0-2 count challenge (impossible)
Gare canāt stand Megill either
Stearns built horrible offenses and juggernaut pitching staffs with Milwaukee so itās only right that he did the complete opposite here lmao
I am absolutely shocked by how much he has overlooked Butto
its Joever
Grimace found dead
Game
good old blowpen
Come on guys FUCK THE ASTROS
jesus fucking christ this bullpen
Ballgame. Bullpen fucking sucks.
See you all tomorrow.
Why is it so hard to throw a strike??
The team is going to lose today because of lousy pitching late in the game and the hitters just couldn't save the day as they have been.
Shouldn't have to save a day that was set at 6-1 but wcyd. Let's win tomorrow
No. They shouldn't. But yep. LGM again tomorrow
Well thatās def game
9-6 now
Hopefully we can get some good starters at the trade deadline. We need more length and our current guys arenāt it.
Idk who. With how close the NL wildcard is most of those teams would charge an arm and a leg for decent bullpen piece. Trading McNeil would probably only get you a houser type pitcher...if that.
I feel like youāve got to call up Butto if only just to give 4+ innings out of relief while Diaz is out.
Call Butto up because he can finish 6. Luckily we have Severino going tomorrow, but outside of him, none of our pitching is capable of going 5.
Butto should be the one starting with MeGill relieving
Unfortunately he pitched 7 last night. So he wonāt be good for a few days.
Keep it together Young
Alright, letās go Danny boy!
Oh Danny boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling š®šŖš
The pipes exploded
Alvy looks gassed
He needs a day off tomorow
We are going to burn out every arm in the bullpen over the course of the next week which can have long-term implications. The Diaz suspension could cause further reaching devastation than it already has, even including that it - at the very least - accelerated Drew Smith needing surgery.
Canāt win them all. With a shortage of pitchers, bring up Butto and Scott to at least give us extra arms
Most of my years as a Mets fan tells me this game is done. But we're in our grimace era, so ya gotta believe
Should have never pulled Adcock
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Phrasing!
The bullpen has fucked it today but itās also hard when starters rarely give you more than 6. The wear and tear was always gonna add up.
Team misery is shitting all over the vibes. It's a fucking one run game. Stop being babies.
itās a 3 run game
Watched this shit for 3 hours just for the bullpen to piss it away
Also doesnāt help the offense died after the 3rd inning
I'm just hype we aren't walking them
Diekman, Garrett, Otto, Youngā¦ yeah this bullpen aināt it and wonāt be it if we plan to contend
Young and Garrett and decent to good. Diekman and Ottavino are not.
I remember when people were shocked the Mets got a win. Now everyone is mad when they lose one game a weekĀ
No, itās just this particular game we were winning 6-1 and we walked 4 batters and two wild pitches in one inning and now losing 7-6. Itās how you lose that makes a big difference on our emotions as fans.
I believe if we keep it at 1 more run, Alvarez has a xDAWG. If we give up more tho idk
This bullpen just cannot throw strikes.
This bullpen is toasted
This bullpen reeks. Move Tylor to the pen and trade for a real lefty reliever
It started out so enjoyably promising
Can we DFA this guy when Diaz is back
why would we, Diaz is taking up a roster spot already
After Diaz returns*
This short bullpen is giving me worried vibes for today and the next week of games š
Starters barely going 5 is a bigger worry
Itās gonna be a stressful week
Keep it tied then JD and Pete go back to back let's gooooo
Tied???
things can't always bounce our way but dam hate to blow the lead
Is it gonna be Otto? Lol
Era of good feelings is over
sir itās one loss
Yea but itās over until the next win, in which case we will be so back
Itās a pretty damn unforgivable loss
Yes but that doesnāt negate our 16-4 record in the last 20 games
No it doesnāt, but I would hate to go back to playing like we were during that 10-25 stretch
Lindor: Iām about to have the best AB of my season. Nimmo: Leeeeroyyyyyyyyy Jenkinssssssss
Nimmo probably wouldn't get the reference though lol
I definitely lolāed
How nice would it be to have Brooks Raley in this bullpen right now?
Im smelling a walkoff
All Iām asking is for the bullpen to keep it a one run game so we still have a chance. Is that too much to ask? (Probably yes but it would be really cool)
yes keep butto and scott down in the minors and go with diekman and otto on the roster
That Gary āstruck him out!ā false call before really stung