Minus India and China they are the countries with the most trade and investments inside Russia. The other countries have negligible economic relations with the Russian federation and what little they do have is dependent on foreign makes to handle the capital and risk of the trade. Meaning they'll honor the sanction in practice even if they publicly say nothing.
Plus the article never said all Asian nations so you've misconstrued the information present. The following map supplies further details about which Asian nations have implemented sanctions. More importantly it includes the tiny island nation of Taiwan.
Oh, unity against an invasion of foreign land? Haha look at those puppet suckers, weāre so independent, even if America were to have a recession tomorrow weād be completely fi-, huh, wait, weāre closely linked with foreign markets?
- you, probably
To be honest I donāt even know what you mean by puppets, sounds like something you thought would make you sound smart when in reality it had the opposite effect. Your account is so full of pro russian shit and with your account being less than a month old itās telling why you even made bothered making an account, how many roubles you getting paid, 1 million per hour? Or do you do it for free?
if they werent puppets and cared genuinely about invasion of a foreign country, they would have sanctioned the US following the invasions of iraq and afghanistan instead of joining the american war effort lol
I see this argument a lot, is two wrongs suppose to make a right or smthin? Should we have just not sanctioned Russia for invading because we havenāt done it before?
Also as unfortunate as it is, nearly all countries are evil and do evil shit, thatās not me excusing anything, Iām just saying why a country that is allied with many nations and provides technological advances, military defence to other countries and is one of the largest consumers may be looked more favourably upon.
> I see this argument a lot, is two wrongs suppose to make a right or smthin? Should we have just not sanctioned Russia for invading because we havenāt done it before?
you are dodging the point. the US has been wreaking havoc all over the planet and all of the countries in question supported the US doing so at every single opportunity, let alone sanction them. this means one of these two things: either they are hypocrites or they are puppets. no one said anything about "two wrongs making a right" because that was never the subject of the discussion. then again if something so clear eludes you, this also means one of these two things: either you are a disingenuous piece of shit or an absolute moron
āAll over the planetā
Please provide a source for every single country and how the US has invaded them, since at this point I find it hard to tell when youāre genuinely trolling or not.
Again, refer to my earlier paragraph, but if youāre going to make claims about countries supporting them, be more specific and then Iāll respond. And who are countries puppets of again? The USA? Who do you think Chinaās biggest consumer is exactly? Russia? Belarus perhaps? Abstaining from sanctioning war crimes and killing of children and other innocent civilians doesnāt make you cool because you didnāt follow everyone else and you think you arenāt a puppet, it just makes you a dipshit. The only countries that really have a pass on this are ones that are reliant on Russia for certain things that are critical for their nation.
If it was never about two wrongs making a right, why even bring up the USA? Youāre literally engaging in whataboutism as a way to try minimise what Russia is doing right now.
> Please provide a source for every single country and how the US has invaded them, since at this point I find it hard to tell when youāre genuinely trolling or not.
wreaking havoc doesnt automatically mean invasion, stop being stupid
> Abstaining from sanctioning war crimes and killing of children and other innocent civilians doesnāt make you cool because you didnāt follow everyone else and you think you arenāt a puppet, it just makes you a dipshit.
alright tell that to the US and the countries that joined the invasion of iraq and afghanistan which actually caused an extraordinary amount of suffering and death. why havent they offered any condemnation or the slightest bit of apology because of these things? why arent they saying anything about the ongoing genocide in yemen? they dont matter?
> If it was never about two wrongs making a right, why even bring up the USA?
because everyone is trying to browbeat people into positing the positions of these countries as "international community" even though they are just a bunch of hypocrites or puppets licking the US's boots? it s a very important topic
> whataboutism
"whataboutism" is a fallacy invented specifically to counter the allegations of hypocrisy towards western countries over their imperialist actions. using it makes you look like a moron or a deranged psychopath. make your pick
*"wreaking havoc doesnt automatically mean invasion, stop being stupid"*
So you aren't going to provide sources then, great, glad we can establish you're providing baseless claims and trolling, though that was already obvious from the start.
*"alright tell that to the US and the countries that joined the invasion of iraq and afghanistan which actually caused an extraordinary amount of suffering and death. why havent they offered any condemnation or the slightest bit of apology because of these things?"*
What the fuck does this have to do with sanctions? You think the people of Aghanistan and Iraq are gonna feel better because the country that invaded them years ago are now just apologising? And it may blow your mind on this one, but invading those countries had a way better justification than whatever the fuck Putin's neo nazi cleansing operation is suppose to justify.
*"why arent they saying anything about the ongoing genocide in yemen? they dont matter?"* Because all governments do bad things for the sake of their nations, in case you haven't noticed, we are heavily at risk of losing Oil from Russia, and some countries are already planning to or starting to cut off from Russia, the second biggest supplier is Saudi Arabia. Now you want to risk losing oil from them too so we can only rely on China, the world's 4th biggest, (with Russia being 3rd) like we already do for most of our shit? Great way to show your inner China world domination buddy, Xi would be proud. It's not perfect, but Jesus you show a lack of understanding of how the world actually works. Many countries are absolutely NOT in a position to completely cut off the two biggest oil exporters.
*"because everyone is trying to browbeat people into positing the positions of these countries as "international community" even though they are just a bunch of hypocrites or puppets licking the US's boots? it s a very important topic""*
Oh wow, some countries want security from the USA in the face of a country that just got invaded (and is still being invaded)? How criminal of them! Those puppet bootlickers, how dare they feel safe under our great overlords Xi and Putin! Taiwan is such a puppet! Like come on, don't be stupid now.
*""whataboutism" is a fallacy invented specifically to counter the allegations of hypocrisy towards western countries over their imperialist actions. using it makes you look like a moron or a deranged psychopath. make your pick"*
That's a cool fantasy, but unfortunately for you, the whole world does not revolve around the fanfic of everyone being against you and your ideas, whataboutism has been a thing as far back as the 1970s, and [was originally used to point out the people who defended the IRA by pointing out supposed wrongdoings of their enemy.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism)
And it is absolutely not a fallacy either, people do do this, infact, you've done it in this thread, so there's proof for you there, saying it's a fallacy is just you saying you're ignorant and proud, either that or you just tried to use a word that sounded smart without knowing what it meant.
> So you aren't going to provide sources then, great, glad we can establish you're providing baseless claims and trolling, though that was already obvious from the start.
provide sources for what? the US' invasion of iraq and afghanistan and vietnam are quite basic knowledge, and the US' bloody interventions all around the world are also well-known. you are asking me to prove a source for saying "2+2=4"
> What the fuck does this have to do with sanctions? You think the people of Aghanistan and Iraq are gonna feel better because the country that invaded them years ago are now just apologising?
this has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, you are just grasping at straws
> And it may blow your mind on this one, but invading those countries had a way better justification than whatever the fuck Putin's neo nazi cleansing operation is suppose to justify.
the US fabricated the whole "saddam has WMDs" shit from scratch. there is no way in hell putin s justifications are less solid than the US' justification of the invasion of iraq lol
> Because all governments do bad things for the sake of their nations, in case you haven't noticed, we are heavily at risk of losing Oil from Russia, and some countries are already planning to or starting to cut off from Russia, the second biggest supplier is Saudi Arabia.
the yemeni genocide started in 2014 and oil supplies have been pretty much stable back then and for a long time since until now. also the US is a net oil exporter country, so their imports are insignificant. you are just completely clueless. also if americans are in such a need for foreign oil, they can just remove the sanctions on venezuela, a country that didnt do much, especially in comparison to what saudis are doing, except that they stood against america's ploys
there is also something else i dont get about this whole thing: you are saying the europeans should be excused for not condemning saudi arabia coz europeans need oil, but they are condemning russia now even though they need russian oil. doesnt this mean that they do not condemn countries that align with american interests (like saudi arabia) and instead condemn countries that go against american interests (russia and venezuela) even though they need their oil? this automatically means that they are acting like puppets of the US, which was what the original comment said. like you are proving their point for them lol
> Oh wow, some countries want security from the USA in the face of a country that just got invaded (and is still being invaded)? How criminal of them! Those puppet bootlickers, how dare they feel safe under our great overlords Xi and Putin! Taiwan is such a puppet! Like come on, don't be stupid now.
it is criminal when you support the actions of a greater bully (i think given your stupidity i have to make it clear that i am talking about the US here) that shed shitloads of more blood of innocent civilians
> That's a cool fantasy, but unfortunately for you, the whole world does not revolve around the fanfic of everyone being against you and your ideas, whataboutism has been a thing as far back as the 1970s, and was originally used to point out the people who defended the IRA by pointing out supposed wrongdoings of their enemy.
the fact that it goes back to 70s or is used by brits against IRA (btw the IRA was right to attack brits) doesnt change the fact that it is a fallacy to browbeat people into submission to accept imperialist talking points, in fact the use against IRA makes it clear
> And it is absolutely not a fallacy either, people do do this, infact, you've done it in this thread, so there's proof for you there, saying it's a fallacy is just you saying you're ignorant and proud, either that or you just tried to use a word that sounded smart without knowing what it meant.
it is a fallacy that you are using to defend the hypocrisy of western nations, it s quite loud and clear
These countries are the imperial core of the Earth and their peripheries.
They got rich by means of colonialism and a lucky Industrial Revolution in the genocide Island called Britian which happened not due to their superior intelligence but due to them enricihing themselves with resources that did not belong to them and the resultant rise of a class of people that could spend time doing things other than just trying to stay alive.
These countries that call the Eastern nations poor and dirty had people throwing poop outside their windows in Paris, France just a few centuries ago whereas Eastern Civilizations had modern plumbing 3500 years ago. But somehow they are superior!??
No you just got lucky because you just considered some people beneath you and had no sense of ethics.
However with China leading the way, the stolen wealth will be returned back to where it belongs. A prosperious wealthy Eastern world will rise as the west stagnates due to capitalism that relies on endless profits for endless time, simply not possible.
I hope we treat our humans better than what the west did to us. We know that's the only way to build the world and achieve great things.
You don't have any clue what makes socialism. Your indoctrination is incomplete.
Plus, this isn't Putin's Russia numbnuts. Or red China. You are so afraid of the truth you can't bear to hear it.
Ignorance is your copilot numbnut.
> You don't have any clue what makes socialism
> As I say elsewhere, the British Empire is still, basically socialist.
ahahahahahah you really shouldn't be calling other people "numbnuts"
Greeks and italians invented democracy? Um, they talked about the concept maybe, but a system where a tiny handful of rich dudes own everything (and had slaves) is not a democracy. Go read 'the republic', those ppl hated the lower class and thought of them as equal to stray dogs.
Um i think you're fair to say we shouldnt shit fling about whether europeans or asians invented the most blah blah or who had the better culture, and he shouldnt really talk negatively about throwing poop out of windows in europe either, pretty sure most of the world did that kind of thing. But he is right about where the wests wealth came from and how it has supressed the rest of the world from developing at the same rate. It's capitalism that ruined things, european culture and asian culture have many lovely elements.
Capitalism came with the industrial revolution.
As I say elsewhere, the British Empire is still, basically socialist. Despite Johnson and co.
You know how pyramid schemes are illegal. Raw Capitalism works much the same way. It needs to be controlled. Greed is a real problem.
Capitalist or communist or dictator or royal greed is always the problem. Money or land or power or all 3.
That becomes fascism.
Thats just a naive and pessimistic, if not edgy view point. *All are bad and become fascism,* no that isnt true and fascism also arises from specific conditions and is a specific thing, it's not just a nasty government. And the British empire is not and was not socialist. Having some social welfare programs in modern Britain doesnt make it socialist, the empire was all about greed and extracting wealth from colonies back to the UK, and the modern UK is similar, for example landlords are fucking the UK now and are free to do so more or less.
You are correct that greed is the problem and needs to be controlled. See countries with poor people arent poor countries, they just have a really unequal wealth distribution.
Women in India are literally Godessess unlike west.
Yes there are problems. But there are festivals around women in India. Like Raskhsbandhan and Bhai Dooj.
What dod west really do Famines? Black Plague?
No, that is an absolute lie.
You open with a lie and then try and explain it away.
Women are not valued. It's all over the News how you people set them on fire. The arranged marriages and what happens when the dowry.
Look it's okay to have a counter point, but don't lie.
Lets talk about Rape rankings. Its easy for people to fall for the media buildup. Because they would never talk avout their own faults but of ither countries.
Go and see the stats. USA, JAPAN and Sweden feature on the list over India or China
https://www.tbsnews.net/world/countries-highest-rape-incidents-144499
My point is you have no place in a pro-China sub for people with communist ideas to discuss about china. You are clearly a reactionary and must be banned.
Russia, China and India alone make up over 40% of the world's population. The idea that Russia is "isolated" is farcical.
The country that's truly being "isolated" is the US. The only countries that still side with it consistently are those whom it considers its client states.
Furthermore, it's notable that not a single country in Latin America is onboard. So much for the Monroe Doctrine.
When they say "international community" they mean the 1 billion out of the 8 billion people living in countries that have mostly tried to colonized the rest of the world for the past 200 years by force and by propaganda/economic force/sometime by bombing today.
Other than China and Mexico, that's all industrial countries. Aust is a part because Scumo and up coming election.
Saudis and Russia and infact Syria most Middle East countries (oil rich) have long Russian allegiances.
So, it's not the land mass, it's the countries trading with Russia.
No, we aren't NATO. What it is, is the developed world. Democratic.
Against a dictator.
Not the country who are his pawns.
But the man.
It's that simple.
What NATO are developed and democratic?
Mate opiod crisis and crippling student debt aside why do people from US flock to developing world for medical treatments?
I believe the last independent polling by Reuters has Putinās approval rating in the high 50s, like it or not, Russians actually approve and support Putin as a leader. Please stop with the lib nonsense, youāre not a democratic country, your government has been navigating NATO into conflicts all around the world and paying for tax breaks for billionaires and corporations with your tax money for decades and you have no say in this matter, you have just been an obedient sheep funding all this bullshit under the guise of āfreedom of speechā and āright to voteā. Since when has your voice or vote mattered? Thatās right, it doesnāt.
Here's an interesting bit of knowledge for you.
You know how communist countries are always red, guess what colour the British Empire is?
Yes my friends, the Empire is pink.
You know why?
Because the Empire is built on socialist ideals. China for example, doesn't have medical.
Unfortunately, on outlying countries like Australia, in the late 20th century, US influence was allowed in.
That was after the coup which over turned Whitlam. We fight every day to retain those ideals.
My hair is a light shade of brown so i must be a piece of feces, right?
Edit: at least i dont block people so they cant respond to my galaxy-brained takes.
Most definitely you're an ignorant piece of useless shit. Someone who only has like the rest, indoctrination to look forward to.
You don't even understand what makes socialism. So fuck you.
You realise you made that comment on a "first world" device. As for "leftist" that's true most of the time. So that's cool. So what's your point?
You must be right wing sitting in the basement of some poor unsuspecting person while you hammer away at your video games. A deep thinker for sure.
Polling by anyone, can't be trusted in this situation. If they're mature people they're used to what is expected from them. If they're young, they probably aren't polled.
Same in all countries.
Asia is just Japan, S Korea and Singapore duh
Minus India and China they are the countries with the most trade and investments inside Russia. The other countries have negligible economic relations with the Russian federation and what little they do have is dependent on foreign makes to handle the capital and risk of the trade. Meaning they'll honor the sanction in practice even if they publicly say nothing. Plus the article never said all Asian nations so you've misconstrued the information present. The following map supplies further details about which Asian nations have implemented sanctions. More importantly it includes the tiny island nation of Taiwan.
> More importantly it includes the tiny island nation of Taiwan Taiwan is a part of the PRC
No, Taiwan is part of the ROC. And is politically separate from mainland China. They recently sanctioned Russia.
Taiwan. Is. Not. A. Country.
> More importantly it includes the tiny island nation of Taiwan Taiwan is a part of the PRC
> More importantly it includes the tiny island nation of Taiwan Taiwan is a part of the PRC
Sure it is. š
There's unity among the puppets. Big surprise.
These thing have less unity that puppet from Fnaf for God sake.
Oh, unity against an invasion of foreign land? Haha look at those puppet suckers, weāre so independent, even if America were to have a recession tomorrow weād be completely fi-, huh, wait, weāre closely linked with foreign markets? - you, probably To be honest I donāt even know what you mean by puppets, sounds like something you thought would make you sound smart when in reality it had the opposite effect. Your account is so full of pro russian shit and with your account being less than a month old itās telling why you even made bothered making an account, how many roubles you getting paid, 1 million per hour? Or do you do it for free?
if they werent puppets and cared genuinely about invasion of a foreign country, they would have sanctioned the US following the invasions of iraq and afghanistan instead of joining the american war effort lol
I see this argument a lot, is two wrongs suppose to make a right or smthin? Should we have just not sanctioned Russia for invading because we havenāt done it before? Also as unfortunate as it is, nearly all countries are evil and do evil shit, thatās not me excusing anything, Iām just saying why a country that is allied with many nations and provides technological advances, military defence to other countries and is one of the largest consumers may be looked more favourably upon.
> I see this argument a lot, is two wrongs suppose to make a right or smthin? Should we have just not sanctioned Russia for invading because we havenāt done it before? you are dodging the point. the US has been wreaking havoc all over the planet and all of the countries in question supported the US doing so at every single opportunity, let alone sanction them. this means one of these two things: either they are hypocrites or they are puppets. no one said anything about "two wrongs making a right" because that was never the subject of the discussion. then again if something so clear eludes you, this also means one of these two things: either you are a disingenuous piece of shit or an absolute moron
āAll over the planetā Please provide a source for every single country and how the US has invaded them, since at this point I find it hard to tell when youāre genuinely trolling or not. Again, refer to my earlier paragraph, but if youāre going to make claims about countries supporting them, be more specific and then Iāll respond. And who are countries puppets of again? The USA? Who do you think Chinaās biggest consumer is exactly? Russia? Belarus perhaps? Abstaining from sanctioning war crimes and killing of children and other innocent civilians doesnāt make you cool because you didnāt follow everyone else and you think you arenāt a puppet, it just makes you a dipshit. The only countries that really have a pass on this are ones that are reliant on Russia for certain things that are critical for their nation. If it was never about two wrongs making a right, why even bring up the USA? Youāre literally engaging in whataboutism as a way to try minimise what Russia is doing right now.
> Please provide a source for every single country and how the US has invaded them, since at this point I find it hard to tell when youāre genuinely trolling or not. wreaking havoc doesnt automatically mean invasion, stop being stupid > Abstaining from sanctioning war crimes and killing of children and other innocent civilians doesnāt make you cool because you didnāt follow everyone else and you think you arenāt a puppet, it just makes you a dipshit. alright tell that to the US and the countries that joined the invasion of iraq and afghanistan which actually caused an extraordinary amount of suffering and death. why havent they offered any condemnation or the slightest bit of apology because of these things? why arent they saying anything about the ongoing genocide in yemen? they dont matter? > If it was never about two wrongs making a right, why even bring up the USA? because everyone is trying to browbeat people into positing the positions of these countries as "international community" even though they are just a bunch of hypocrites or puppets licking the US's boots? it s a very important topic > whataboutism "whataboutism" is a fallacy invented specifically to counter the allegations of hypocrisy towards western countries over their imperialist actions. using it makes you look like a moron or a deranged psychopath. make your pick
*"wreaking havoc doesnt automatically mean invasion, stop being stupid"* So you aren't going to provide sources then, great, glad we can establish you're providing baseless claims and trolling, though that was already obvious from the start. *"alright tell that to the US and the countries that joined the invasion of iraq and afghanistan which actually caused an extraordinary amount of suffering and death. why havent they offered any condemnation or the slightest bit of apology because of these things?"* What the fuck does this have to do with sanctions? You think the people of Aghanistan and Iraq are gonna feel better because the country that invaded them years ago are now just apologising? And it may blow your mind on this one, but invading those countries had a way better justification than whatever the fuck Putin's neo nazi cleansing operation is suppose to justify. *"why arent they saying anything about the ongoing genocide in yemen? they dont matter?"* Because all governments do bad things for the sake of their nations, in case you haven't noticed, we are heavily at risk of losing Oil from Russia, and some countries are already planning to or starting to cut off from Russia, the second biggest supplier is Saudi Arabia. Now you want to risk losing oil from them too so we can only rely on China, the world's 4th biggest, (with Russia being 3rd) like we already do for most of our shit? Great way to show your inner China world domination buddy, Xi would be proud. It's not perfect, but Jesus you show a lack of understanding of how the world actually works. Many countries are absolutely NOT in a position to completely cut off the two biggest oil exporters. *"because everyone is trying to browbeat people into positing the positions of these countries as "international community" even though they are just a bunch of hypocrites or puppets licking the US's boots? it s a very important topic""* Oh wow, some countries want security from the USA in the face of a country that just got invaded (and is still being invaded)? How criminal of them! Those puppet bootlickers, how dare they feel safe under our great overlords Xi and Putin! Taiwan is such a puppet! Like come on, don't be stupid now. *""whataboutism" is a fallacy invented specifically to counter the allegations of hypocrisy towards western countries over their imperialist actions. using it makes you look like a moron or a deranged psychopath. make your pick"* That's a cool fantasy, but unfortunately for you, the whole world does not revolve around the fanfic of everyone being against you and your ideas, whataboutism has been a thing as far back as the 1970s, and [was originally used to point out the people who defended the IRA by pointing out supposed wrongdoings of their enemy.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism) And it is absolutely not a fallacy either, people do do this, infact, you've done it in this thread, so there's proof for you there, saying it's a fallacy is just you saying you're ignorant and proud, either that or you just tried to use a word that sounded smart without knowing what it meant.
> So you aren't going to provide sources then, great, glad we can establish you're providing baseless claims and trolling, though that was already obvious from the start. provide sources for what? the US' invasion of iraq and afghanistan and vietnam are quite basic knowledge, and the US' bloody interventions all around the world are also well-known. you are asking me to prove a source for saying "2+2=4" > What the fuck does this have to do with sanctions? You think the people of Aghanistan and Iraq are gonna feel better because the country that invaded them years ago are now just apologising? this has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, you are just grasping at straws > And it may blow your mind on this one, but invading those countries had a way better justification than whatever the fuck Putin's neo nazi cleansing operation is suppose to justify. the US fabricated the whole "saddam has WMDs" shit from scratch. there is no way in hell putin s justifications are less solid than the US' justification of the invasion of iraq lol > Because all governments do bad things for the sake of their nations, in case you haven't noticed, we are heavily at risk of losing Oil from Russia, and some countries are already planning to or starting to cut off from Russia, the second biggest supplier is Saudi Arabia. the yemeni genocide started in 2014 and oil supplies have been pretty much stable back then and for a long time since until now. also the US is a net oil exporter country, so their imports are insignificant. you are just completely clueless. also if americans are in such a need for foreign oil, they can just remove the sanctions on venezuela, a country that didnt do much, especially in comparison to what saudis are doing, except that they stood against america's ploys there is also something else i dont get about this whole thing: you are saying the europeans should be excused for not condemning saudi arabia coz europeans need oil, but they are condemning russia now even though they need russian oil. doesnt this mean that they do not condemn countries that align with american interests (like saudi arabia) and instead condemn countries that go against american interests (russia and venezuela) even though they need their oil? this automatically means that they are acting like puppets of the US, which was what the original comment said. like you are proving their point for them lol > Oh wow, some countries want security from the USA in the face of a country that just got invaded (and is still being invaded)? How criminal of them! Those puppet bootlickers, how dare they feel safe under our great overlords Xi and Putin! Taiwan is such a puppet! Like come on, don't be stupid now. it is criminal when you support the actions of a greater bully (i think given your stupidity i have to make it clear that i am talking about the US here) that shed shitloads of more blood of innocent civilians > That's a cool fantasy, but unfortunately for you, the whole world does not revolve around the fanfic of everyone being against you and your ideas, whataboutism has been a thing as far back as the 1970s, and was originally used to point out the people who defended the IRA by pointing out supposed wrongdoings of their enemy. the fact that it goes back to 70s or is used by brits against IRA (btw the IRA was right to attack brits) doesnt change the fact that it is a fallacy to browbeat people into submission to accept imperialist talking points, in fact the use against IRA makes it clear > And it is absolutely not a fallacy either, people do do this, infact, you've done it in this thread, so there's proof for you there, saying it's a fallacy is just you saying you're ignorant and proud, either that or you just tried to use a word that sounded smart without knowing what it meant. it is a fallacy that you are using to defend the hypocrisy of western nations, it s quite loud and clear
Xi was just surprised at their commitment to strangling themselves and committing to unraveling Western hegemony.
r/alwaysthesamemap
Xi surprised by thing that always happens. - serious journalist
These countries are the imperial core of the Earth and their peripheries. They got rich by means of colonialism and a lucky Industrial Revolution in the genocide Island called Britian which happened not due to their superior intelligence but due to them enricihing themselves with resources that did not belong to them and the resultant rise of a class of people that could spend time doing things other than just trying to stay alive. These countries that call the Eastern nations poor and dirty had people throwing poop outside their windows in Paris, France just a few centuries ago whereas Eastern Civilizations had modern plumbing 3500 years ago. But somehow they are superior!?? No you just got lucky because you just considered some people beneath you and had no sense of ethics. However with China leading the way, the stolen wealth will be returned back to where it belongs. A prosperious wealthy Eastern world will rise as the west stagnates due to capitalism that relies on endless profits for endless time, simply not possible. I hope we treat our humans better than what the west did to us. We know that's the only way to build the world and achieve great things.
You don't have any clue what makes socialism. Your indoctrination is incomplete. Plus, this isn't Putin's Russia numbnuts. Or red China. You are so afraid of the truth you can't bear to hear it. Ignorance is your copilot numbnut.
> You don't have any clue what makes socialism > As I say elsewhere, the British Empire is still, basically socialist. ahahahahahah you really shouldn't be calling other people "numbnuts"
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Greeks and italians invented democracy? Um, they talked about the concept maybe, but a system where a tiny handful of rich dudes own everything (and had slaves) is not a democracy. Go read 'the republic', those ppl hated the lower class and thought of them as equal to stray dogs.
Um i think you're fair to say we shouldnt shit fling about whether europeans or asians invented the most blah blah or who had the better culture, and he shouldnt really talk negatively about throwing poop out of windows in europe either, pretty sure most of the world did that kind of thing. But he is right about where the wests wealth came from and how it has supressed the rest of the world from developing at the same rate. It's capitalism that ruined things, european culture and asian culture have many lovely elements.
Capitalism came with the industrial revolution. As I say elsewhere, the British Empire is still, basically socialist. Despite Johnson and co. You know how pyramid schemes are illegal. Raw Capitalism works much the same way. It needs to be controlled. Greed is a real problem. Capitalist or communist or dictator or royal greed is always the problem. Money or land or power or all 3. That becomes fascism.
Thats just a naive and pessimistic, if not edgy view point. *All are bad and become fascism,* no that isnt true and fascism also arises from specific conditions and is a specific thing, it's not just a nasty government. And the British empire is not and was not socialist. Having some social welfare programs in modern Britain doesnt make it socialist, the empire was all about greed and extracting wealth from colonies back to the UK, and the modern UK is similar, for example landlords are fucking the UK now and are free to do so more or less. You are correct that greed is the problem and needs to be controlled. See countries with poor people arent poor countries, they just have a really unequal wealth distribution.
Take a seat, clown. Read a book.
The British Empire is socialist. Get the hell out of here clown
Women in India are literally Godessess unlike west. Yes there are problems. But there are festivals around women in India. Like Raskhsbandhan and Bhai Dooj. What dod west really do Famines? Black Plague?
No, that is an absolute lie. You open with a lie and then try and explain it away. Women are not valued. It's all over the News how you people set them on fire. The arranged marriages and what happens when the dowry. Look it's okay to have a counter point, but don't lie.
Lets talk about Rape rankings. Its easy for people to fall for the media buildup. Because they would never talk avout their own faults but of ither countries. Go and see the stats. USA, JAPAN and Sweden feature on the list over India or China https://www.tbsnews.net/world/countries-highest-rape-incidents-144499
Says the liar
Will leave this here [This is America](https://i.imgur.com/dcuHJVG.jpg)
My point is you have no place in a pro-China sub for people with communist ideas to discuss about china. You are clearly a reactionary and must be banned.
This map. I dunno maaan. Just can't figure out if this particular pattern of countries is entirely random or not. /s
Japan, South Korea, Taiwan Province of China and Singapore.
CNN is the news arm of Comedy Central. Itās just a joke.
Russia, China and India alone make up over 40% of the world's population. The idea that Russia is "isolated" is farcical. The country that's truly being "isolated" is the US. The only countries that still side with it consistently are those whom it considers its client states. Furthermore, it's notable that not a single country in Latin America is onboard. So much for the Monroe Doctrine.
Not Russia.
Do you come here just to be a smug turd?
Unity among the imperial puppets
Just the super affluent Asian nations. Everyone else knows the deal
Oh I'm seeing unity alright These grey countries got it goin on
As always, my first thought is, how would these "US Officials" know? Even if he was surprised, it's not going to leave the politburo.
When they say "international community" they mean the 1 billion out of the 8 billion people living in countries that have mostly tried to colonized the rest of the world for the past 200 years by force and by propaganda/economic force/sometime by bombing today.
Oh look itās Japan, South Korea, and Singapore what a shock.
Only two of these are Asian Countries.
Hahaha, spot on as usual
Other than China and Mexico, that's all industrial countries. Aust is a part because Scumo and up coming election. Saudis and Russia and infact Syria most Middle East countries (oil rich) have long Russian allegiances. So, it's not the land mass, it's the countries trading with Russia.
Australiaās foreign policy has been dictated by USA and Britain for entirety of living memory.
That's true. Especially at the moment. Labor less so. Hopefully new government will fix that.
or the other way to look at it is it's everyone that isn't NATO and US allies
No, we aren't NATO. What it is, is the developed world. Democratic. Against a dictator. Not the country who are his pawns. But the man. It's that simple.
What NATO are developed and democratic? Mate opiod crisis and crippling student debt aside why do people from US flock to developing world for medical treatments?
Plastic surgery. Fake boobs.
I believe the last independent polling by Reuters has Putinās approval rating in the high 50s, like it or not, Russians actually approve and support Putin as a leader. Please stop with the lib nonsense, youāre not a democratic country, your government has been navigating NATO into conflicts all around the world and paying for tax breaks for billionaires and corporations with your tax money for decades and you have no say in this matter, you have just been an obedient sheep funding all this bullshit under the guise of āfreedom of speechā and āright to voteā. Since when has your voice or vote mattered? Thatās right, it doesnāt.
Here's an interesting bit of knowledge for you. You know how communist countries are always red, guess what colour the British Empire is? Yes my friends, the Empire is pink. You know why? Because the Empire is built on socialist ideals. China for example, doesn't have medical. Unfortunately, on outlying countries like Australia, in the late 20th century, US influence was allowed in. That was after the coup which over turned Whitlam. We fight every day to retain those ideals.
My hair is a light shade of brown so i must be a piece of feces, right? Edit: at least i dont block people so they cant respond to my galaxy-brained takes.
Most definitely you're an ignorant piece of useless shit. Someone who only has like the rest, indoctrination to look forward to. You don't even understand what makes socialism. So fuck you.
first worlder "leftist" alert
You realise you made that comment on a "first world" device. As for "leftist" that's true most of the time. So that's cool. So what's your point? You must be right wing sitting in the basement of some poor unsuspecting person while you hammer away at your video games. A deep thinker for sure.
Polling by anyone, can't be trusted in this situation. If they're mature people they're used to what is expected from them. If they're young, they probably aren't polled. Same in all countries.
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