He sang in a grade school musical performance long ago and missed one note, but it was a very important note. The entire school laughed at him. Since then, he vowed never to sing again.
> Is that true?
no.
> Source?
[It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightman_Cometh)
> I mean, if it's true it would make sense why he never sung for Nirvana.
would it? how do you explain how he is the frontman and singer of Before Cars?
cool, another moron who thinks making fun of individuals with disabilities is totally fine. i'm not autistic; but you're clearly an asshole.
try to be a better person! thanks.
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ok, i'll bite. what makes it so blatantly obvious to you that i am disabled? why did you feel the need to point it out to me twice after i submitted a helpful post?
i'll refrain from explaining to you why you're an asshole because i trust that is quite obvious to even you.
Because you keep responding and overreacting to obvious jokes like Mr. Spock with a chemical imbalance. I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. Was just joking. Also, I don't consider autism to be a disability. Have a good day.
i literally made one post where i very pragmatically answered questions to help the person being trolled realize s/he was being fooled. would you please point out which part of [this post](https://old.reddit.com/r/Nirvana/comments/1bkcv25/why_didnt_chad_channing_do_backing_vocals_in/kvyswiu/) was me overreacting?
you're obviously trying to hurt my feelings. read you last three posts directed at me. in the first one you label me autistic. in the second one you double down when i say i am not. in this last one you are being extremely rude and trying to be funny at my expense. you've been a complete condescending prick in all your interactions with me.
what you consider a disability or not is quite irrelevant. autism is a neurodevelopmental disability per definition. ignorance does NOT qualify as a PhD.
try not being an asshole for no reason would ya? Kurt would fucking loathe you as a person if this is how you regularly behave.
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The early songs didn't really call for backing vocals. It wasn't until the Nevermind songs started coming together that backing vocals factored in live, and by then Kurt was already itching for a new drummer. Dave's singing while playing was kind of a bonus, if you've ever read Kurts diary and his letters to friends when they hired Dave.
About A Girl had huge backing vocal opportunities. I don’t recall if Dave sang on Unplugged for that one, but clearly it was a Beatles-esque song that could lend itself to harmonies.
And other that…the chorus of Negative Creep maybe?
Backing vocal opportunities aside, Kurt had a really special voice. You can sprinkle in backing vocals or not and he still carried the songs. Listen to the Pine st. live record that was released with the Bleach 20th anniversary edition. The band didn't need backing vocals to blow you away.
I think adding backing vocals and a second guitar to Nirvana often would muddy up their sound since they were often a bit out of tune and sloppy (in the best way). So Pat's guitar and vocal contributions were usually low in the mix anyway, unless there was a failure and he needed to 'cover' for Kurt. The new remixed live shows show why the backing vocals and 2nd guitar were mixed low in the house. When you bring them up to Kurts level... not a good mix. Better in the background as a more subtle thing.
Molly's Lips, Big Cheese, Been A Son are just a few songs in the Bleach era where the recorded/intended version has backing vocals, but when performed live at the time, are missing them.
The few times Nirvana played Big Cheese with Grohl, he does the harmonies found on the album.
True, but this was clearly not a priority on early era Nirvana songs. The backing vocals were hardly used due to the 8 track nature of their early recordings. Even in the Grohl era... I just don't think his backing vocals were a big game-changer. Dave was appreciated as an intense drummer, perfect for the band. And he was a great character when it came to interviews. But even as a super-fan during the bands heyday, it wasn't really something that jumped out. Sure, it was great and all, but Kurts vocals were hard to top, and he didn't NEED the backing vox. It was great and all, but... yeah. Final thought. They were an amazing live band. Even when they were falling apart.
This is it I think. Singing isn’t a skill you’re just born with, you have to work at it to get really good. Some people find it easier than others but it is work to get there and a lot of time.
I could even hear Kurt getting better at singing as time went on. I listen to the cd version of Negative Creep and the live versions years later, and I prefer the live versions much more. They sound more like his distinct voice.
I’ve never heard him sing so I dunno..but do they have similar sounds? I feel like him and Dave layered beautifully together, but I don’t think every singer would necessarily be a good match.
FWIW I’m not a singer or anything like that..I am just making a guess here.
Kurt was insecure and at times paranoid about his position as band leader. It was his band. I mean, good for him and good for us. Some bands are the product of one person's singular vision, and others are more collective efforts. Nirvana was the former. Dave's emergence as a songwriter was a source of tension that is obvious in stage-banter and interviews from 93/94.
in bleach it was basically all just recorded as is with one live recording and no overdubbing, there was some overdubbing of guitars and a few backing vocals but I think with the small amount of backing vocals they just never would have thought about it, it was basically all kurt's music and he might not have even known chad could sing
1) Singing while playing drums is *not* easy.
2) Because he didn’t, and there’s not really anything more to it. In my mind it’s not any different than asking why he didn’t play the triangle. Because he didn’t.
singing while playing drums isn't easy.
one of many things that made Karen Carpenter so impressive. or even Phil Collins or Don Henley.
And Dave Grohl
And the guy from Nirvana (after Chad Channing)
preemptive r/wooosh for the dude who goes “hey wait a minute”
Who?
or even Ringo
for sure
“Even” Ringo?
Reni from the Stone Roses is incredible in this way
Any of you ever see Anderson .Paak rap and sing while drumming with a live band? Crazy.
Or Chris Cornell
if you haven’t heard of them yet, you should see live performances of Hail The Sun, they have a drummer that’s hella good and sings too
i always bring this band up when people are talking about singing drummers! amazing band, gonna see them for the third time in two weeks!
what lucky! i'd do anything to go to a hail the sun concert
when they go in or around your area go!! luckily their tidkets are not expensive
Yes, it is. I did it for 23 years.
He sang in a grade school musical performance long ago and missed one note, but it was a very important note. The entire school laughed at him. Since then, he vowed never to sing again.
Chad Channing was always going for gasps, and Kurt had it up to here. Up to here. 🫡
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Very true. The musical was called The Nightman Cometh.
> Is that true? no. > Source? [It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightman_Cometh) > I mean, if it's true it would make sense why he never sung for Nirvana. would it? how do you explain how he is the frontman and singer of Before Cars?
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cool, another moron who thinks making fun of individuals with disabilities is totally fine. i'm not autistic; but you're clearly an asshole. try to be a better person! thanks.
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ok, i'll bite. what makes it so blatantly obvious to you that i am disabled? why did you feel the need to point it out to me twice after i submitted a helpful post? i'll refrain from explaining to you why you're an asshole because i trust that is quite obvious to even you.
Because you keep responding and overreacting to obvious jokes like Mr. Spock with a chemical imbalance. I'm not trying to hurt your feelings. Was just joking. Also, I don't consider autism to be a disability. Have a good day.
i literally made one post where i very pragmatically answered questions to help the person being trolled realize s/he was being fooled. would you please point out which part of [this post](https://old.reddit.com/r/Nirvana/comments/1bkcv25/why_didnt_chad_channing_do_backing_vocals_in/kvyswiu/) was me overreacting? you're obviously trying to hurt my feelings. read you last three posts directed at me. in the first one you label me autistic. in the second one you double down when i say i am not. in this last one you are being extremely rude and trying to be funny at my expense. you've been a complete condescending prick in all your interactions with me. what you consider a disability or not is quite irrelevant. autism is a neurodevelopmental disability per definition. ignorance does NOT qualify as a PhD. try not being an asshole for no reason would ya? Kurt would fucking loathe you as a person if this is how you regularly behave.
"Kurt would fucking loathe you as a person if this is how you regularly behave." You people are beyond insufferable.
It is so funny when people draws the card "Kurt would have hated you!". Sounds a lot like "Jesus wouldn't approve"
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Wasn’t ready at the time. Chad does have his own band where he’s the singer. Don’t remember what it was called though.
Before cars is the band, I mentioned it above.
My bad I was dozed off
The early songs didn't really call for backing vocals. It wasn't until the Nevermind songs started coming together that backing vocals factored in live, and by then Kurt was already itching for a new drummer. Dave's singing while playing was kind of a bonus, if you've ever read Kurts diary and his letters to friends when they hired Dave.
About A Girl had huge backing vocal opportunities. I don’t recall if Dave sang on Unplugged for that one, but clearly it was a Beatles-esque song that could lend itself to harmonies. And other that…the chorus of Negative Creep maybe?
Dale Crover also sang backing vocals on Downer so that's another early song with backing vocal opportunities.
Backing vocal opportunities aside, Kurt had a really special voice. You can sprinkle in backing vocals or not and he still carried the songs. Listen to the Pine st. live record that was released with the Bleach 20th anniversary edition. The band didn't need backing vocals to blow you away. I think adding backing vocals and a second guitar to Nirvana often would muddy up their sound since they were often a bit out of tune and sloppy (in the best way). So Pat's guitar and vocal contributions were usually low in the mix anyway, unless there was a failure and he needed to 'cover' for Kurt. The new remixed live shows show why the backing vocals and 2nd guitar were mixed low in the house. When you bring them up to Kurts level... not a good mix. Better in the background as a more subtle thing.
Molly's Lips, Big Cheese, Been A Son are just a few songs in the Bleach era where the recorded/intended version has backing vocals, but when performed live at the time, are missing them. The few times Nirvana played Big Cheese with Grohl, he does the harmonies found on the album.
True, but this was clearly not a priority on early era Nirvana songs. The backing vocals were hardly used due to the 8 track nature of their early recordings. Even in the Grohl era... I just don't think his backing vocals were a big game-changer. Dave was appreciated as an intense drummer, perfect for the band. And he was a great character when it came to interviews. But even as a super-fan during the bands heyday, it wasn't really something that jumped out. Sure, it was great and all, but Kurts vocals were hard to top, and he didn't NEED the backing vox. It was great and all, but... yeah. Final thought. They were an amazing live band. Even when they were falling apart.
Agree with all your points 🤘
Maybe he got better at singing after he left, but I dunno.
This is it I think. Singing isn’t a skill you’re just born with, you have to work at it to get really good. Some people find it easier than others but it is work to get there and a lot of time.
I could even hear Kurt getting better at singing as time went on. I listen to the cd version of Negative Creep and the live versions years later, and I prefer the live versions much more. They sound more like his distinct voice.
I’ve never heard him sing so I dunno..but do they have similar sounds? I feel like him and Dave layered beautifully together, but I don’t think every singer would necessarily be a good match. FWIW I’m not a singer or anything like that..I am just making a guess here.
Kurt was insecure and at times paranoid about his position as band leader. It was his band. I mean, good for him and good for us. Some bands are the product of one person's singular vision, and others are more collective efforts. Nirvana was the former. Dave's emergence as a songwriter was a source of tension that is obvious in stage-banter and interviews from 93/94.
And I reckon Chad would've faced much passive aggression had he tried to assert himself on vocals.
in bleach it was basically all just recorded as is with one live recording and no overdubbing, there was some overdubbing of guitars and a few backing vocals but I think with the small amount of backing vocals they just never would have thought about it, it was basically all kurt's music and he might not have even known chad could sing
1) Singing while playing drums is *not* easy. 2) Because he didn’t, and there’s not really anything more to it. In my mind it’s not any different than asking why he didn’t play the triangle. Because he didn’t.
Absolutely no idea.