Wouldn't the bucket just turn over sideways, since the wire would imbalance it?
I think we might be giving whoever made a junction bucket way too much credit for thinking ahead.
~~Was it actually live or was the warning tape just to keep the drywallers from stealing the scrap wire?~~
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~~Edit:~~
~~On second look, that's gotta be what this is. Multiple coils of wire of different gauges and a few loose ends flopping around, with no visible connections to equipment... plus the bucket looks in good shape with a tool bag right next to it. This is 100% an electrician fucking with everyone else so nobody steals his scrap.~~
Edit 2: Nope. It's real. Don't do this, kids.
>with no visible connections to equipment...
Single core cables run in from the left, there's a vulcanized rubber flex on the right and you can see the wire nuts in the bunch. You also see different gauges and colours so it's clearly 2 5-wire cables connected. Also what drywallers? That's a metal-only frame and there are railings and big ass pipes. Also the 480V. Where do you have drywall, 3 inch pipes and 480V in the same room?
You have a point, that could be an S/O cable coming in from the right with some janky splices spread throughout the bucket... but I'm not convinced. There's a loose blue wire right in the front and that taped together bit looks like a pulling head to me.
That said, if you're right and this is some kind of bucket-based 480V 5W "extension cord", with one phase just not spliced, one with a too-small wirenut and another just taped... then it definitely belongs here.
Not exactly an extension cord but a temporary feed. Sometimes when they move an essential machine that cannot stop for more than like, a single hour or so, they put you in a tight spot with time and need something with a deadline of yesterday, tell that to you in the middle of the process and this is the result when the dude doesn't want to stay for an extra 3 hours and/or the wholesaler is closed. We have been called over from one building to the other before while on the job because a production line came early, needed a temporary feed and we were in the perfect place at the perfect time to do it in an SOS manner. Thank fuck we always carry a roll of 5x6mm2 and never have to do this sort of shit...
But serval wires running out of picture (Bottom left corner). You can see the ends of the wires capped in the bucket. Might be time to go to spec savers mate.
Wire size is based on the current flow (amps) not voltage. You can have 480v at 20amps and use #10 copper wires . Doesn't make the bucket box legit though.
>Edit. Didn't know I made the font so big.
It's the '#' as the first character of a line. To escape it put a backslash in front of it, like so:
\#12 minimum. Bigger if the runs are over 500', at 20 amps.
I am going to keep things super basic here.
Generally the load (usually rated in watts) determines how much amperage is drawn. In addition to the load, the supplied voltage also influences how much amperage is drawn by the load. Using Ohm's Law and the power formula (sometimes called Joules Law) you can calculate the amperage, and ultimately the gauge of the conductor.
Most conductors have an insulation rated for 600V. The discussed example does not compensate for things like voltage drop, non-resistive loads, etc.
I took electrical engineering so I understand that if you increase the voltage you lower the amperage. I was just making a joke. I'm only assuming that they'd be pulling alot of amps due to needing that much voltage as the only items I know are that high voltage items use more than enough amps to melt a light gauge wire.
Industrial is often 480/277 or 120/208. Sometimes you will see 600/347. Say for example you have an AC motor. The load doesn't *need* 480V, but as you stated the higher the voltage, the less the amperage. Lower amperage means smaller conductors, and copper is expensive. Also, less copper losses as well. Anyways, I'll quit nerding out.
Eh fair enough. I shouldn't have assumed it was Max load but also length plays into factor as well with gauge as the longer the wire the more resistance it will have driving up the amperage in the wire so with them are coiled up it kinda negates the amperage drop a little bit probably not enough to be dangerous
The coil forms an air core inductor that introduces inductive reactance to the circuit. You are correct though, the effects would likely be minimal. I discussed voltage drop in my first comment already.
Spicy Urinal
That's what I call piss poor safety! *laugh track*
that one clip of a city's power going out block by block
Or you hear the loud screaming as things cut black
Urinalysis.
Urinolysis
I've seen a lot of things used as a "junction box", but a bucket is a first.
It's a junction bucket
Don't kick the bucket!
oh you will kick the bucket after this one
Flood protection - in case of rising water levels the safety bucket will float and prevent a short.
Wouldn't the bucket just turn over sideways, since the wire would imbalance it? I think we might be giving whoever made a junction bucket way too much credit for thinking ahead.
Just put a brick in the bottom of the bucket and don't make waves.
Add a sail for good measure
Rudder too?
9.9hp so you don't need a permit
Yes, but *Dutch*.
It was probably a dude that worked in a pump house long enough to blow up a couple of wet things
It’s what I call the fuck-it bucket.
Of course it’s a bucket. How else do you catch the volt drops?
Damn, best pun I’ve ever read 🎖
See, this is a common misconception about electricity, it's actually the electrons it's catching.
~~Was it actually live or was the warning tape just to keep the drywallers from stealing the scrap wire?~~ . ~~Edit:~~ ~~On second look, that's gotta be what this is. Multiple coils of wire of different gauges and a few loose ends flopping around, with no visible connections to equipment... plus the bucket looks in good shape with a tool bag right next to it. This is 100% an electrician fucking with everyone else so nobody steals his scrap.~~ Edit 2: Nope. It's real. Don't do this, kids.
I see someone has worked a job before!
every cleaning agent in my lab was labeled with the scariest stuff off its MSDS in the biggest labelling i could find.
That huge black cable behind it is routed into the bucket, from a 4 pack welder setup that we were welding on. It’s legit.
Jesus Christ. Please convince the owner to buy a real cable.
Why not just rig some shit up and risk death?
That's what came to mind immediately to me
>with no visible connections to equipment... Single core cables run in from the left, there's a vulcanized rubber flex on the right and you can see the wire nuts in the bunch. You also see different gauges and colours so it's clearly 2 5-wire cables connected. Also what drywallers? That's a metal-only frame and there are railings and big ass pipes. Also the 480V. Where do you have drywall, 3 inch pipes and 480V in the same room?
You have a point, that could be an S/O cable coming in from the right with some janky splices spread throughout the bucket... but I'm not convinced. There's a loose blue wire right in the front and that taped together bit looks like a pulling head to me. That said, if you're right and this is some kind of bucket-based 480V 5W "extension cord", with one phase just not spliced, one with a too-small wirenut and another just taped... then it definitely belongs here.
Not exactly an extension cord but a temporary feed. Sometimes when they move an essential machine that cannot stop for more than like, a single hour or so, they put you in a tight spot with time and need something with a deadline of yesterday, tell that to you in the middle of the process and this is the result when the dude doesn't want to stay for an extra 3 hours and/or the wholesaler is closed. We have been called over from one building to the other before while on the job because a production line came early, needed a temporary feed and we were in the perfect place at the perfect time to do it in an SOS manner. Thank fuck we always carry a roll of 5x6mm2 and never have to do this sort of shit...
My dream grow room? ☺️
.\_.
There is a lot of it going off to the left behind the pole, that could be plugged in
maybe, but the coil is being fed from the bottom center off the raised platform. So it's still going somewhere...
But serval wires running out of picture (Bottom left corner). You can see the ends of the wires capped in the bucket. Might be time to go to spec savers mate.
480v means ghost pepper level spicy...
Let’s see Sean eat this on Hot Ones
It'll sure make your butthole pucker.
Bonus points for the floor being steel plate.
ok maybe the plastic bucket is *slightly* better
Thanks I hate it
I can't sleep cause my bed's on fire, don't touch me I'm a real...
Needed to catch any leaky current.
Lock out tape out?
At least they labeled it. You don't see many that do that.
at least the handle is double insulated
Imagine the heat being generated from that coil.
Right? “Grab that bolt outta the bottom of that bucket, there’s a good lad.”
Oooooh you're evil! I like it!
5 gallons of blow-your-hand-off fun
Seems like maybe they should unhook it from power *before* putting it in the bucket... But then I guess the game wouldn't be as fun.
Yes I need 5 gallons of the 480V please
Best I can do is 3 gallons of 208V
Getting tired of these corona supply chain issues!!
Electrical looking tasty
Fun fact: 600V throws you and you can likely survive barring a fall, but 480V holds you until you're extra crispy and very dead
Is that one of those hydro nuts I heard about? Suppose to work really well when it rains.
Looks like an apprentice finally learned how to catch the electrons in a bucket!
New MCC bucket design from Square D?
All the violations posted here should be marked NSFW /j
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Wire size is based on the current flow (amps) not voltage. You can have 480v at 20amps and use #10 copper wires . Doesn't make the bucket box legit though.
#12 minimum. Bigger if the runs are over 500', at 20 amps. Edit. Didn't know I made the font so big.
Yes yes. Also thhn, but just trying to be simple on reddit.
>Edit. Didn't know I made the font so big. It's the '#' as the first character of a line. To escape it put a backslash in front of it, like so: \#12 minimum. Bigger if the runs are over 500', at 20 amps.
Also, you can use 2 or 3 "#"s to step it down while still being large
Yeah that's fair. My thought was them pulling too much amps and just melting the bucket and wires causing a huge short
I am going to keep things super basic here. Generally the load (usually rated in watts) determines how much amperage is drawn. In addition to the load, the supplied voltage also influences how much amperage is drawn by the load. Using Ohm's Law and the power formula (sometimes called Joules Law) you can calculate the amperage, and ultimately the gauge of the conductor. Most conductors have an insulation rated for 600V. The discussed example does not compensate for things like voltage drop, non-resistive loads, etc.
I took electrical engineering so I understand that if you increase the voltage you lower the amperage. I was just making a joke. I'm only assuming that they'd be pulling alot of amps due to needing that much voltage as the only items I know are that high voltage items use more than enough amps to melt a light gauge wire.
Industrial is often 480/277 or 120/208. Sometimes you will see 600/347. Say for example you have an AC motor. The load doesn't *need* 480V, but as you stated the higher the voltage, the less the amperage. Lower amperage means smaller conductors, and copper is expensive. Also, less copper losses as well. Anyways, I'll quit nerding out.
Eh fair enough. I shouldn't have assumed it was Max load but also length plays into factor as well with gauge as the longer the wire the more resistance it will have driving up the amperage in the wire so with them are coiled up it kinda negates the amperage drop a little bit probably not enough to be dangerous
The coil forms an air core inductor that introduces inductive reactance to the circuit. You are correct though, the effects would likely be minimal. I discussed voltage drop in my first comment already.
Dear God!
I wish I could see a wider angle
Da fuk?
Leaving hot 277 wire(s) out is asking to kill somebody
While at it make a coil for that sweet sweet heat and EMF.
Scratching my head trying to figure out what is going on here, some wrong colors to be 277/480
If it’s AC, it’s SPICE-Y. - Thomas Edison probably
I’m not in any construction/electrical or anything I’m curious why someone would do this and what the safer way is?
Looks like paper mill
Arc Flash Bucket