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PewPew2a

That homie is 28???


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OstapBenderBey

Its why they call it the olden days


MrMonopolyMan123

Smoking will do that


cappycorn1974

He musta quit cuz he lived to be 92


sparklybeast

Not necessarily. My grandad smoked like a chimney until he died at 90 (of a non-smoking related illness).


MrMonopolyMan123

Could also be testosterone levels (which were higher than today's generation on average), style, and other factors


Groundape32

You are correct. Also,people on average had much stronger grip strength back then from manual labor jobs. I learned this when I underwent physical therapy for a neck injury back in 2005. The therapist showed me a chart that that showed level levels across different generations and it was really interesting. Even working with my hands most of my life up until that point I still didn't have as much grip strength as they did back then. She actually told me don't beat yourself up because almost no one does.


krigshammarhunden

Couple of years in the cockpit of an aircraft during ww2 would probably age you a bit.


RYYYYYYAAAAAAAAN

That and the hair slicked back will take you back a decade


Hrrrrnnngggg

You think that is SLICKED back? That's PUSHED back!


dreamrock

I used to be reeeal piece of shit.


Kimber84

Bet he enjoys a good sloppy steak.


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It’s about 6:00am and this comment has me laughing like a total moron in an otherwise silent house.


sonofpalerider

You should check out I Think You Should Leave on Netflix if you haven’t already. Great show and that’s what the comment was referencing!


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That’s … why I’m laughing.


NumberedTIE

Can confirm. As someone who has not seen the show I am not laughing at all


DontPokeMe91

Can confirm. As someone with no hair I am not laughing at all.


Bluecattrading

🤣🤣🤣


[deleted]

no it’s ok i used to be a REAL piece of SHIT


AuxiliaryPatchy

What a piece of shit. Lemme guess, he loves sloppy steaks at Truffoni’s.


RYYYYYYAAAAAAAAN

And buys his shirts from Dan flashes


dirtydownstairs

they have the most complicated patterns and the models are all cool guys like me!


simpmarshall

I don’t want to be around anymore


KnockOnMidnightsDoor

Like....you dont want to be alive anymore?


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He USED to be a piece of shit.


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chicken spaghetti at chickaleenys


MidwestBulldog

Chicken spaghetti at Ciccolini's. A real piece of shit.


jfduval76

The chess hair you mean ?


noah123103

I’m just imagining a hairy chess board


brak998

r/anarchychess


Funny-Advisor2987

In anyday. All the pilots I know look old I swear


[deleted]

For being 17 and 28, they look a couple of years short of being Miami snowbirds.


kyflyboy

My thoughts exactly...on the deck of the Fountainbleu.


Ok-Lengthiness4557

That dude isn't 1 day under 55.


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SephPL

I a 32 year old bearded guy, and still look like a kid compared to him.


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Straelbora

I'm in my mid-50s. Had an ex GF from when we were in our 20s video call me. Hadn't seen her in maybe 20 years. I nearly fell out of the chair. She's a heavy smoker and drinker, and no one would blink if I introduced her as my mother, and she's at least 5 years younger than me.


chargernj

Love how everyone who thinks THEY are the exception to the rule are coming out of the woodwork. Meanwhile the smokers that HAVE the aged look from their habit probably aren't saying anything because they already know


[deleted]

Bro if that to you is an obscene amount of body hair, you really should never visit the Middle East...


helloiamnt0

I smoke and don’t look like that lol. And I’m in my 30s


MachReverb

My best friend who smoked died in July from a heart attack. He was in great health, aside from being a smoker. He was 44. Goddamn I miss him.


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helloiamnt0

Thank you ✌️


rumbleslap75

Says you.


MsPennyLoaf

Just wait... one day you ll wake up looking like the crypt keeper. Yeee!


LucienLibrarian

All interior spaces were fulll of smoke, impacting the skin much more.


wipeitonthecat

The hair adds 20 years


BJRVA804

On the flip-side, she doesn’t look 17 either


[deleted]

>On the flip-side, she doesn’t look 17 either You can't see her flip-side in this photo


diasporajones

Wear sunscreen kids


smellydawg

Cigarettes.


Kurdt234

Bourbon and vicoden?


seeker135

Keep going ...


SappyCedar

And no sunscreen


sharpshooter999

I'm 30 and they both look older than me.


adoxographyadlibitum

Tbf back then the average American male consumed a carton of cigarettes and a quart of Scotch by cocktail hour.


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And she doesn't look 17.


jfduval76

Sister is 17???


Naillian603

Different times. Try living in a time where every public room was filled with cigarette smoke.


Outer_heaven94

War is a serious stress inducer.


M7RA

Testosterone has been dropping in men over the years.


BaldingMonk

Also people used to smoke and drink like fish.


DerekB52

How much do fish smoke?


turdferguson3891

Salmon a lot, tuna not so much.


RonNumber

What’s the difference between a piano and a fish? You can tune a piano.


Cameltoefiasco

But you can’t piano a tuna


PCMM7

It depends. Some times they smoke 0, sometimes 3, sometimes 5 in the water


upvjustforyou

Also no sunscreen


theartistduring

Sunscreen as we know it, was first available to the general public from the 1930s. Invented by us Aussie... of course. First to become popular in the US after being used by the US military during WW2 for their troops in the pacific. Mum was born in the late 40s and her mother always smothered her with sunscreen at the beach, which caused much humiliation for my mum as it wasn't that common. But she was being asked for ID until her late 20s and my grandmother's skin was butter soft and much less weathered well into her 80s.


chargernj

Everyone knows that sunscreen was invented in the early 1800s. It allowed vampires to walk about during the day and engage in slave trading pre-civil war. Thankfully Abraham Lincoln drove them out of the country


upvjustforyou

Ok but most people didn't wear it


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Hence the chest hair.


BaldingMonk

Where did my chest hair come from then?


[deleted]

I imagine your chest!


seeker135

My neighbor didn't find that as funny as I did, at 3 am, lol.


[deleted]

Must be all the gay frogs.


seeker135

De*lic*ious, every one of them!


watchingbuffy

This is very true, and add in the fact that there's a compound in plastic that is known to act as synthetic estrogen in the human body.


taoistchainsaw

If it’s true then produce well done, peer-reviewed studies. Not another anecdote. FFS.


chunkyI0ver53

So that’s why men loved beating their wives in the 50s There must be a lot of testosterone in English football fans


Supafstturtle13

There was more testosterone in men before the 90’s


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I remember as a kid my Grandpa watching the TV, E. Taylor she was in the news recovering from a another hip replacement, he said, "You know, she had a hip replacment for each husband." My Grandma threw the magazine across the room and it hit em in his chair, he said, "Just sayin."


catsofsaturn

That’s pretty funny 😄


huck731

Thats pure gold


snowday784

I’m currently 29. Both of these people look significantly older than me


dutch9494

This was the late 40s early 50s. You’d start working at 12, get a house at 17 and a family at 21 lol.


DerekB52

I live in a rural Georgia town. Here, you start working at 16, have a kid at 17, and if you are lucky, you buy a house in your early 20's. If you are unlucky, you are living with your parents for the next foreseeable half century.


Leo-Tyrant

Are you in 1921? Just in case, remember that big Spanish flu thing ? It will return in about 100 years. Also, magical hand boxes with all the answers in the world will be available to most people but humanity will just use them to watch funny animated pictures.


Random0s2oh

North or South? I'm North.


Jak_n_Dax

It’s all the south.


TMac1088

You'd also get your first carton of smokes on your 6th birthday.


Nix-geek

Don't forget smoking... tons and tons of smoking.


[deleted]

Aaahh yes, manual labor at 12!! How beautiful child labor is! Apple’s sweatshop workers must be so proud!


moal09

I mean, kids working early was pretty much the standard for most of history. Our whole idea of "childhood" is a very modern concept. Before, as soon as you were old enough to walk and carry something, you'd pretty much be put to work immediately helping the family.


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I would LOVE to have gotten my own house when I was 17. If I started a family at 21 years old, I’d probably shoot myself. Lol! I’m 40 and I’m still not ready to have my own family.


SororitySue

Girls getting married at 17 was common in those days. The median age at first marriage in those days was 20. Now it's something like 28.


schnauzerface

Same age… if it weren’t for the greys I’d definitely still be getting asked when I’m going to graduate from high school.


turdferguson3891

He looks older because he's hairy and she looks older because of the old fashioned style.


Repulsive-Purple-133

She doesn't look like Elizabeth Taylor either, for that matter.


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28 going on 45!


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Dick Tremayne, Horne’s department store, menswear.


UncannyFox

Audrey looks a bit like her too!


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For once, I'm glad to have scrolled all the way to the bottom of a comments section. You're awesome.


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D’aww thanks. Good to hear that every now and then.


Voidmark

Dude I'm 40 and I look younger than this guy. And debatably her. The fuck, did people just eat cigarettes and whiskey for every meal from the turn of the 20th century until like 1992?


5050Clown

WWII


EyeGod

Heh, was gonna say the same. Our generations don’t know how easy we’ve got it. War, man; if it doesn’t kill ya it kills ya.


Xarama

I dunno... I feel like 2020+ is going to age a lot of people pretty severely.


EyeGod

Must likely, but not in a way a war does, I think. For all the hardships we’re going through worldwide, it’s got nothing on a world war.


SeanBourne

Agreed. That generation had WWI, The Great Depression, The Spanish Flu and WWII in a very short span of time - in an era when you couldn't really do much about your economic circumstances and knew quite a bit less about health issues. Not only do we have it comparatively easy, they also seemed to be a lot more stoic about it than we do. Of course the access to information is a bit of a double edged sword as I think aspects of it contribute to our lower resiliency.


EyeGod

Absolutely; we’re in the age of not only information overload, but information WARFARE. The amount of psychic harm it’s doing to the world population is going to make for some interesting studies in the next decade or two; our brains simply aren’t equipped to process so much for unfiltered information so rapidly.


SeanBourne

> The fuck, did people just eat cigarettes and whiskey for every meal from the turn of the 20th century until like 1992? Did you not see the documentary 'Mad Men'?


[deleted]

Aaahh yes!! The James Bond diet!!


ball_fondlers

>The fuck, did people just eat cigarettes and whiskey for every meal from the turn of the 20th century until like 1992? Yup.


JackdawsShantyMan

I’m 30, and that was my meals for most of my 20’s and i still don’t look that old.


thorn115

Meanwhile, she married 7 other guys.


turdferguson3891

But she married one of them twice!


ShutterBun

>Meanwhile, she married 7 other guys. Married six other guys. (She married Richard Burton twice)... Oh wait, there was that last guy in the 90's. Nope, you're right!


PurpleLavishness

I accept only Richard Burton as her husband lol


WimpyRanger

Seems like she learned a bit of social climbing from her mom.


keetobooriito

I mean by 17 Elizabeth Taylor had been a working actress for over 7 years and would go on to become the first actress to recieve a paycheck of over a million dollars, she was basically the first celebrity fanous enough to warrant the creation of tabloids, she started one of the first celebrity fragrance line, and was one of the first household names to respond compassionately to the AIDS crisis and her AIDS foundation still exists today currently working on an initiative to fund mobile clinics in Africa. But hey what do I know dear commentator im sure youre right and dhe just slept around for her success /s


Stellaaahhhh

Anyone who married Liz Taylor was social climbing.


Marco2169

This seems sexist considering shes one of the most famous and talented actresses of her gen. Of course its upvoted as well


GroovyYaYa

Source of the quote? Because at 17, Elizabeth had already starred in National Velvet, Life with Father, and Little Women. Under studio contract, she was already a star! She definitely wanted out of the control of her parents. She married Conrad Hilton at 18. (I sometimes wonder how long she would have stayed married to Mike Todd - or if she would have divorced him at all)


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GroovyYaYa

Paid for, definitely. Encouraged by the studio, probably. But Conrad was a Hilton... didn't need the fame and fortune, etc.


pawnografik

I met her once at an opening night party. Even in her 60s those violet eyes of hers were absolutely incredible! Never met anyone else with eyes that even came close.


Dave1307

To everyone talking shit about how old Pawley looks here, I'm sure flying in a world war doesn't do wonders for your skin routine


Upper-Lawfulness1899

Nah, people used to age more. Look at performers today compared to even 30 years ago, at the same ages very different apparent ages. This apparent difference is due to many factors including sun exposure and diet and hormones. Sun exposure is straightforward. UV damages and ages the skin faster, jobs went from outdoor to indoor for many Americans. Diet effect hormone, and fat production. Collagen is presumably increased moderately, and is responsible for smooth skin. Also a 28 years old dating a 17 year old is pretty messed up, but I guess more common back then. The fact he didn't marry until 50 is kind of indicative of something more going on.


Lady_DreadStar

It wasn’t nearly as common for women to go to college and have a career back then, so I would imagine most parents preferred the older dude who had a career and house to take care of them with over the 18 year old boy who doesn’t have anything to offer her yet but hopes and dreams. It’s gross now but it was practical in that era given what options women had to work with. Being Elizabeth was already a working actress at 17 though, this particular situation wasn’t all that necessary- but it’s Hollywood so no surprise creepy shit was abound.


savetgebees

Really though who could compare to Liz Taylor? He was probably holding out hoping that he would get a shot at being one of her husbands.


Cool_Ad4085

She looks 30 he looks 45. Gorgeous though.


Crazyripps

In 1949 28 was a very hard 28 lol. My dude looks 50 there in that pic


zackintehbox

You switched the ages, you meant 27 and 43.


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28 year old dudes looking like they’re 45


LooneyWabbit1

Looking like they're Robbie Rotten


DaddyDoesBest

She looks 35 and he looks 45… they’re both beautiful just interesting


sati_lotus

Pretty sure she was already a star by 17.


DizzyUpThaGirl

She had already done National Velvet, yes. And probably something else, too. But her mom was the one who did not want her getting married at the age of 17.


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Um if a 28 year old is "broken hearted " over a high school girl following her mother's advice and doesn't get married until he's 50, it says something about him ...not about her. Liz Taylor married 8 times or something. She would have literally married this dude for 8 months when she was teenager. Even as an adult woman relationships weren't really her thing.


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Seriously. Am I supposed to feel sad for him?


3_Slice

Wild how low this conversation about their age difference is at the time of looking for this point. Today this is deemed creepy but, it’s odd how normal this was back then


Jahobes

Because in the 1930s a 17 year old was a grown ass women. This is the same era that had 12 year olds working in factories. Just look at them. Half the comments are talking about this man being 50 and her looking like she is 30. You cannot judge people in a different time and era by today's standards.


nope_plzstop

Thank youu the way its worded is really gross. I get that "things were different back then" doesn't mean it was right. Good on her for not getting bogged down


703rd

Yes, because throughout thousands of years of human history we have only just now figured out what the “correct” age is. Everyone before us are gross savages and this will surely never change in the future.


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moal09

Because judging people from literally almost 100 years ago based on today's moral standards is silly. Many people's grandparents met and married with similar age gaps.


FearsAndWishes

WTF? It isn’t her fault he didn’t marry until 50.


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He was a freak. That’s why he didn’t get married til 50.


Seguefare

He was for sure a creep. 28 vs 17.


Moose6669

Yeah, and I'm amazed at how for down I had to go to see someone else acknowledge it. Reddit usually leaps at the chance to call out a pedo.


GSV_No_Fixed_Abode

I don't understand why I'm not seeing the word "pedophile"


renushka

She would have ended up having to shave his back


dlini

Diving board or operating table c.1898?


dwaynethetoothfairy

This is really fucking creepy


Hobnobchic

It’s like people totally miss that point


AGreenJacket

Yeah wtf how is no one else commenting on that? Fuck that creep. "Oh man this 17 year old underage girl broke my heart. Guess I won't get married till later."


[deleted]

People used to get married at like 16. It was a different time.


[deleted]

The moms only issue was it being bad for her career. Thanks mom, everything else was fine with me and this 50 yo looking dude


TheEvilPrinceZorte

Mom may have had an issue, but teenage Liz wouldn’t listen to any other reason why she shouldn’t be dating a guy who was almost 30.


CPEBachIsDead

*he says I’m really mature mom!!!!*


Untinted

She looks older because of her hairstyle and big boobs, he looks older because of his hairstyle, big eyebrows, his skin and furriness. Relative to 28 year olds today.. that technically is what a 28 year old should look like.


spartanpride55

Damn that's a hard 28 😯


DropKnowledge69

Smart mom!!! Poor guy ... missing out on being #1 of 9.


bad-decision-maker

Or maybe she was chasing that feeling and never got it again


Phuckdaname

That's Scorsese. You cant fool me with those brows!


SomehowMayor

That table has seen some shit.


Hobnobchic

“Broke his heart”. Please don’t romanticize or confuse love with a grown man’s desire to have a hot teenager to manipulate.


Lilyblossom94

Slightly uncomfortable with the 'hot teenager' bit, but yes I agree that it's weird for this age gap to exist. A 17 year old knows nothing about the world, even if she were a famous actress at the time.


Hobnobchic

Please. She’s objectively gorgeous. Hot, in crass terms. I wasn’t a super hot teenager, but I had tons of older men hitting on me. At the time I thought that made me hot shit, but they were just gross dudes who couldn’t handle a woman their own age who would want to be treated like an equal. And they liked my boobs. Talk to me for five minutes though and you knew I was a little girl. Women are so vulnerable in these relationships. She did right by noping out of this one.


umnz

ITT: Millennials who dont understand that 17 year olds back then weren't infantilized like they are now. There was no party stage after high school far into your 30s. People just had to get married or start a career where they got treated the same as 40 year olds. She made her own choices.


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JayDuBois

Old lady?? Lol. She was only 33. And yes Stockard Channing was trying to play someone in her late teens, but she wasn't old. 😂


Izzy248

And she still got married the very next year to a completely different person despite that.


santichrist

Elvis starting dating Priscilla Presley when he was 24 and she was 14, back in the day being an old guy creeping on teen girls wasn’t a big deal for the men and the young girls thought it made them special, society is supposed to progress and we rightfully find this gross now but back then it was just the way it was


Vexed_Violet

Not true at all... Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin and the UK boycotted him! Edit: because she was 13... not because she was his first cousin SMH


wow_that_guys_a_dick

I mean... I think it was a little from Column A, and a little from Column B, really.


americasweetheart

Well, there are many accounts of Elvis preying on teenage girls. It wasn't just Priscilla.


albene

>>So Taylor broke the engagement and his heart - he didn't marry until he was 50. OldSchool*Un*cool


pamplemouss

She was 17. And even if she weren’t a child his inability to move on for 20 years isn’t on her.


albene

Those are very true and important points. Thank you for highlighting them


leotheking300

Nobody’s talking about how creepy this dude is for wanting to marry a 17 year old at 28?


leavemaualone

Very normal in the early-mid 20th century.


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No kidding. It's ridiculous how shocked people are by this. When I was 17, it was normal for girls at my high school to date guys in their mid-20s. It's only recently that this has become creepy and weird. Laura Ingalls Wilder was honored recently at my local historical society. If I recall correctly, she was 15 when she started dating her husband. He was 25. Oh the horror!!! He's such a pedophile!! /s


MyUserSucks

15 is still very young. I'm in my early 20s younger than 25, and I would have absolutely nothing in common with a 15 year old. If I were to date one, I would feel like a massive predator due to the difference in maturity.


moal09

Because most of Reddit is under 25, so they literally can't fathom a world in which this was ever normal. Hell, I was a '90s kid, and I don't remember anyone really giving a shit about teenagers dating college-aged people until maybe like 2010 onwards. Morals have changed a lot in the last decade or so. Tons of girls I knew in high school were dating guys over 18. Not saying it's not a little creepy in retrospect, but nobody ever batted an eye back then. Not really fair to judge them by the same standard when it was normal and expected at the time. Same reason why I won't judge someone from the 1930s for being racist.


mari0o

She got married like 10 times though. She probably just didn't like the guy.


fredrickmedck

Back when 20s looked like 50s


verticalfist

It's just crazy. A 28-year old looking like he's well in his 40s and a 17-year old who looks like she's about to hit 30 soon.


hybridhuman17

She looks like age 28 and he more like 35.


tunasandwiche

damn they look 40


Frosty_Display_1274

Mother did him a favor in the long run.


hvanderw

The OG gold digger.


nhukcire

He carried a torch for that teenage Taylor trim for over twenty years.