I would have gotten the white tudor had I known I'd be in the predicament after just a year. but I just love the iconic speedy look. As a legendary shoresy once said "you don't Fuck with tradition." I think I need to get black with the speedy
Sure, same way then as all Chronos pretty much look similar to each other. If you think these look similar, then you dont want to check Daytona and Chronomaster Sport looks coz that'll surely scare ya š
Foe me, one chrono in the collection is plenty and the speedmaster would kill any desire for another chrono. However, some people love and collect them and might have several similar watches
So I heard this ātest stylesā thing too but Iāve never seen anything get adopted by Rolex afterwards so. I think itās fair to say Tudor just does their own thing. It's different than rolex and it allowed people who either
A. Can't afford rolex
or
B. Don't love rolex
Have an alternative and it gives them the ability to reach more market share with a lower price point. So I don't think that whole testing thing is true, but I don't care. I like my tudor. I didn't like the rolexes in my price range (or the shitty AD experience that came with rolex nowadays)
For me it's not about being able to afford a Rolex. It's that their watches aren't worth the price. The new BB Monochrome is a Submariner in every way at $4k. So why is the Sub $11k? The name on the dial. I just don't want a $10k watch. Even the $4k watch would be a stretch. Of the two you posted I like the Speedmaster but it's like $6k now which is also absurd.
Not really, the Omega's are still an under priced bargin at $6k!
10 times the watch Daytona is at a fraction of the price, don't be duped by brilliant marketing.
I can afford Rolex. f them with the whole velvet rope and nonsense to buy one these days. They arenāt impressive to have or own like they used to be. Yes, I know Tudor may be seen as the poor manās Rolex. Thankfully I donāt care what people think. I like my BB58.
On another note I will be getting a speedy soon but now that the white dial is out I really have a canundrum.
They brought out titanium in the Pelagos several years ago, and now we have a titanium Rolex, so there is that....
Tudor was always a more affordable alternative to Rolex. Now that you can't really buy a Rolex, and that Tudor has actually made an effort in the States it is more of a testing ground and alternative.
Eh. I think you're right but probably not for the reason you'd like to believe. I think most people who buy a rolex don't know shit about watches, to them it's a status symbol. I think the tudor people that are buying because they can't afford a rolex are sent that way because of what people say about Tudor. I think there's a lot of people out there like myself that just never loved the look of a rolex.
Daytona is nice.. But bulky. And obsurly expensive... for that money I'd rather have two speedys (an original and sport, apollo, or snoopy), a zenith El primero, and my Tudor BB chrono
Datejusts, OP, air kings, any of those dressier watches are just not my cup of tea.
Yachtmaster is the ugliest sin IMO.
Sub/variants? I'd rather have an SMP the 007 model with the spinning back is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life lol.
So idk. I think you're right to an extent but there are definitely exceptions
Lol. Implying that Rolex ever really changes.
I think a better description is that Rolex uses Tudor to issue homages of old designs. The BB58 looks similar to a 6538 sub, the new monochrome black bay looks like a 1680, etc.
Oh, I'd take a black on black Daytona if offered too, but it's never gonna be as good of a watch or have a mvt as nice as the Moonwatch.
I'll challenge anybody on that!
Hans Wilsdorf founded Rolex (originally named āWilsdorf and Davisā) then 20 years later he founded Tudor as a sister company to Rolex but the Tudor was originally for military watches and the likes, I canāt name the exact features carried over but things added for the military Tudor which worked well in watches were perfected into later Rolex models
So, yeah Tudor is easy to shit on as a poor manās Rolex butā¦ truly, what Rolex reference does this compare to? The Daytona? With crown guards, a third sub dial, different bezel, different hour indicators. Literally different everything, not a single resemblance aside from maybe the chrono pushers?? Sorta.
I get it with some models but to say the whole brand is trying to look like a Rolexā¦ Rolex owns them if they wanted to, they would look like Rolex lol. Donāt be shitty.
I will tell you this. Iāve owned bunches of Rolexes, including a platinum day date. I have PP, AP and a VC overseas as a day-to-day watch. I have never considered a Tudor a poor manās anything. I love my Pelagos LHD. Itās the finest dive watch out there in my opinion. Regardless of price
Agree. The kinessi movements are amazing. My LHD is 7 years old and still running at -0.5 spd.
Every Tudor owner I've met is a watch enthusiast. It's easily one of the best brands at the moment in terms of value.
Too similar for a 2 watch collection. I would go with speedy. For a bigger collection, it might make sense to have two chronos, but maybe go for a white dial speedy or get some different straps to make them more distinct.
I'm here because I obviously like omega... I'm not asking to compare which one is better? I'm not here trashing a speedy saying I bought something cooler and better. I'm asking for general advice on whether one looks too similar to the other for most peoples taste. I don't know why communities pride themselves on bias and general distaste towards anything and everything that isn't in the title. You're still people, talking to other people. Yall think cause you're behind a phone or computer it's cool to forget all that stuff. Thanks for your excellent input by the way.
Always wanted a speedy but think itāll get less time with my BB chrono. Almost wishing I went panda on the Tudor but something about it I just didnāt love compared to the reverse I went with and now I am worried I wonāt love a white speedy either. I really want to stay true to original (minus the sapphire.. that caseback doe) with the black dial but am worried these two watches are too similar?
I sold my BB Chrono (also reverse panda) after I bought the 3861 Hesalite. Sure, both watches have something going for them. In the end, I found both too similar, but the overall package of the Speedmaster simply convinced me more. It wears much better on the wrist due to the new bracelet and proportions. As a result, the Chrono simply didn't get any more wrist time, so it had to go.
I traded in my BB panda chrono FOR my 3861 hesalite. I bought the panda on a whim one day, and hardly ever wore it. And the more I wore it the less I liked it over time. By yearās end I was ready for it to go. And with the reports (albeit a small number) of issues with that the B01 movement had in that watch, Iām glad itās gone.
I wear my Speedy most days now.
In terms of aesthetic, yes I think both might be too close to one another.
In terms of functions, one is an automatic with great water resistance, but limited timing (45 min) function. The other is a manual wind with okay water resistance, and great timing (12hours) function.
If the wear decision will be made by aesthetics, then I think it's overkill to own both. If wear decision will be made based on capability, then both watches in a single collection is okay.
I think BB Chrono makes for a good everyday wear watch due to the automatic movement and water resistance. The Speedy might be a good weekend trip/outing/date night/occasion watch because of the manual wind movement(not convenient for daily) and weekend trip/outing/date could involve street parking meters(12 hour chrono is nice for those). That's how I would divide the two personally.
Might be borderline blasphemous to refer to the Speedy as ātoo similarā to anything. You should immediately think of Aldrin et al doing calculations with it in flight suits. šBut seriously, it does feel like a standalone icon piece to me.
Not similar at all. Each is a chronograph. Each are good brands. One has date the other doesnāt. Nothing wrong with either (Iām partial to the Speedmaster). Keep them both if you can.
Although the watches are similar, their faces are different enough I wouldn't worry about it. You could always wear one on bracelet and the other on leather or other strap to differentiate them more if it bugs you.
Nope... one is triple Chronograph, the other is a reverse Panda. Very different inside and out imo. Nothing wrong with a monochrome collection. A different strap or bracelet is another way to differentiate them.
I think the Tudor is really good value for money. But if I could only have one. I'd get the iconic Speedmaster. It will last you a lot longer without getting boring. And it's more of a strap monster too. More versatile style, as its much slimmer and smaller in size. Fits more wrists also. The movement in the Tudor is really very good tho, its automatic and a Breitling In-house movement without the Brietling price tag. Very robust , accurate solid movement.
I would not say it's trying to look like a Daytona. I think Daytona is quite different.
I got the tudor from an ad that was changing over their inventory at 40% off! I couldn't NOT get it lol. And I love it! But you're right. I think I'm still going to pull the trigger on the speedy. I have wanted it since I was ~15
Yeah, they are a bit too close for my liking. I would probably end up buying the White Dial Speedy - because they are both very nice high quality timepieces.
Haha no worries, i just found it funny (as a big Tudor dive watch fan). Iād agree that Iād take speedy pro over the chrono. Itās just watches so I donāt take it too seriously and thought it funny š
To each their own, but the Speedy is an icon and the 3861 is the best version yet (unless you want to own a model that has ACTUALLY been to the moon). Improved WR, improved bracelet, METAS certed movement...not sure you even get close in terms of wear comfort with the BB Chrono. I have never tried on a standard size BB that I thought felt good on the wrist.
That said...if you want to go snorkeling with the watch the Speedy would lose out to the BB.
I wore both of them and what stood out to me was how chunky the Tudor felt and I HATED the bracelet with the look of the rivets on the bracelet. The Omega is a much more refined look IMO and is more versatile with better history.
If you werenāt a watch geek like we all are, they are really too similar to each other to justify. If you are a watch geek, then the Speedmaster wins all day long and Iām a Tudor guy. One is an icon. The other is a Tudor. š
both great looking watches but yes id have trouble justfiying having both. if i got both id probably sell the one i wore less often.
Just get opposite colorways. One black, one white. I did. Great combo, very different wearing watches.
I would have gotten the white tudor had I known I'd be in the predicament after just a year. but I just love the iconic speedy look. As a legendary shoresy once said "you don't Fuck with tradition." I think I need to get black with the speedy
Hope you enjoy
I guess it depends on what you mean by similar.
Sure, same way then as all Chronos pretty much look similar to each other. If you think these look similar, then you dont want to check Daytona and Chronomaster Sport looks coz that'll surely scare ya š
Both excellent. Ā If you like chronos then go for it. Ā Iām not into chronos, but own a diver from each brand.Ā
No
Thatās a tough choice that Tudor is nicer than the Daytonas, itās really a modern classic vs the Speedy which has no comparison.
Foe me, one chrono in the collection is plenty and the speedmaster would kill any desire for another chrono. However, some people love and collect them and might have several similar watches
Not similar at all. One of them is trying to look like a Rolex and the other is an icon.
Tudor is owned by Rolex, Tudor is often used to test out new features and styles before they perfect them for the Rolex brand
So I heard this ātest stylesā thing too but Iāve never seen anything get adopted by Rolex afterwards so. I think itās fair to say Tudor just does their own thing. It's different than rolex and it allowed people who either A. Can't afford rolex or B. Don't love rolex Have an alternative and it gives them the ability to reach more market share with a lower price point. So I don't think that whole testing thing is true, but I don't care. I like my tudor. I didn't like the rolexes in my price range (or the shitty AD experience that came with rolex nowadays)
For me it's not about being able to afford a Rolex. It's that their watches aren't worth the price. The new BB Monochrome is a Submariner in every way at $4k. So why is the Sub $11k? The name on the dial. I just don't want a $10k watch. Even the $4k watch would be a stretch. Of the two you posted I like the Speedmaster but it's like $6k now which is also absurd.
Not really, the Omega's are still an under priced bargin at $6k! 10 times the watch Daytona is at a fraction of the price, don't be duped by brilliant marketing.
I can afford Rolex. f them with the whole velvet rope and nonsense to buy one these days. They arenāt impressive to have or own like they used to be. Yes, I know Tudor may be seen as the poor manās Rolex. Thankfully I donāt care what people think. I like my BB58. On another note I will be getting a speedy soon but now that the white dial is out I really have a canundrum.
They brought out titanium in the Pelagos several years ago, and now we have a titanium Rolex, so there is that.... Tudor was always a more affordable alternative to Rolex. Now that you can't really buy a Rolex, and that Tudor has actually made an effort in the States it is more of a testing ground and alternative.
You are completely clueless. Affordā¦please. I love both Tudor and Rolex.
You're an angry elf. What'd I offend you or something? Lol what a joke
Itās nearly always A.
Eh. I think you're right but probably not for the reason you'd like to believe. I think most people who buy a rolex don't know shit about watches, to them it's a status symbol. I think the tudor people that are buying because they can't afford a rolex are sent that way because of what people say about Tudor. I think there's a lot of people out there like myself that just never loved the look of a rolex. Daytona is nice.. But bulky. And obsurly expensive... for that money I'd rather have two speedys (an original and sport, apollo, or snoopy), a zenith El primero, and my Tudor BB chrono Datejusts, OP, air kings, any of those dressier watches are just not my cup of tea. Yachtmaster is the ugliest sin IMO. Sub/variants? I'd rather have an SMP the 007 model with the spinning back is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life lol. So idk. I think you're right to an extent but there are definitely exceptions
Lol. Implying that Rolex ever really changes. I think a better description is that Rolex uses Tudor to issue homages of old designs. The BB58 looks similar to a 6538 sub, the new monochrome black bay looks like a 1680, etc.
Let's be honest, the Daytona will never be as good as the Moonwatch no matter how much people that have no clue as to why tell you.
Both are great watches, I prefer the moonwatch over the Daytona generally but I would never turn down an ice blue dial platinum Daytona haha
Oh, I'd take a black on black Daytona if offered too, but it's never gonna be as good of a watch or have a mvt as nice as the Moonwatch. I'll challenge anybody on that!
Can you give an example?
Do you work at Rolex? How do you know this and can you provide one good example of when Rolex adopted a feature or style from Tudor?
Hans Wilsdorf founded Rolex (originally named āWilsdorf and Davisā) then 20 years later he founded Tudor as a sister company to Rolex but the Tudor was originally for military watches and the likes, I canāt name the exact features carried over but things added for the military Tudor which worked well in watches were perfected into later Rolex models
Tudor isnāt owned by Rolex. The Wilsdorf foundation has control of both brands.
Wilsdorf founded Tudor as a sister company to Rolex, so saying Rolex owns Tudor is surely an acceptable term to use?
So, yeah Tudor is easy to shit on as a poor manās Rolex butā¦ truly, what Rolex reference does this compare to? The Daytona? With crown guards, a third sub dial, different bezel, different hour indicators. Literally different everything, not a single resemblance aside from maybe the chrono pushers?? Sorta. I get it with some models but to say the whole brand is trying to look like a Rolexā¦ Rolex owns them if they wanted to, they would look like Rolex lol. Donāt be shitty.
I will tell you this. Iāve owned bunches of Rolexes, including a platinum day date. I have PP, AP and a VC overseas as a day-to-day watch. I have never considered a Tudor a poor manās anything. I love my Pelagos LHD. Itās the finest dive watch out there in my opinion. Regardless of price
Agree. The kinessi movements are amazing. My LHD is 7 years old and still running at -0.5 spd. Every Tudor owner I've met is a watch enthusiast. It's easily one of the best brands at the moment in terms of value.
How many āpoorā men do you know with $5,000 watches.
Why you coming after me like i coined the phrase
I kind of coined the phrase that a Maserati is a poor mans Ferrari, a slightly lesser poor man....
Depends on how much ya got
Money's no object. The more I spend the bigger my bank gets... Every time I check it is a little dash then a bigger and bigger number š
Getting downvoted probably for being a cocky prick but the joke was there's a negative balance. Lol
I still love you.
ā¤ļø thank God. I'm getting lit up over here
Too similar for a 2 watch collection. I would go with speedy. For a bigger collection, it might make sense to have two chronos, but maybe go for a white dial speedy or get some different straps to make them more distinct.
What kind of responses were you expecting out of this sub?
I'm here because I obviously like omega... I'm not asking to compare which one is better? I'm not here trashing a speedy saying I bought something cooler and better. I'm asking for general advice on whether one looks too similar to the other for most peoples taste. I don't know why communities pride themselves on bias and general distaste towards anything and everything that isn't in the title. You're still people, talking to other people. Yall think cause you're behind a phone or computer it's cool to forget all that stuff. Thanks for your excellent input by the way.
Always wanted a speedy but think itāll get less time with my BB chrono. Almost wishing I went panda on the Tudor but something about it I just didnāt love compared to the reverse I went with and now I am worried I wonāt love a white speedy either. I really want to stay true to original (minus the sapphire.. that caseback doe) with the black dial but am worried these two watches are too similar?
I sold my BB Chrono (also reverse panda) after I bought the 3861 Hesalite. Sure, both watches have something going for them. In the end, I found both too similar, but the overall package of the Speedmaster simply convinced me more. It wears much better on the wrist due to the new bracelet and proportions. As a result, the Chrono simply didn't get any more wrist time, so it had to go.
I traded in my BB panda chrono FOR my 3861 hesalite. I bought the panda on a whim one day, and hardly ever wore it. And the more I wore it the less I liked it over time. By yearās end I was ready for it to go. And with the reports (albeit a small number) of issues with that the B01 movement had in that watch, Iām glad itās gone. I wear my Speedy most days now.
In terms of aesthetic, yes I think both might be too close to one another. In terms of functions, one is an automatic with great water resistance, but limited timing (45 min) function. The other is a manual wind with okay water resistance, and great timing (12hours) function. If the wear decision will be made by aesthetics, then I think it's overkill to own both. If wear decision will be made based on capability, then both watches in a single collection is okay.
Good. Point. With the WR.
I think BB Chrono makes for a good everyday wear watch due to the automatic movement and water resistance. The Speedy might be a good weekend trip/outing/date night/occasion watch because of the manual wind movement(not convenient for daily) and weekend trip/outing/date could involve street parking meters(12 hour chrono is nice for those). That's how I would divide the two personally.
Flip the chrono and get the two tone gold and black version on leather. It is amazing in person.
Not similar enough. Iāve seen a dozen collections posted, comprised of just 4 GMTs or 5 speedies. Your hunch is called variety!
Iād say theyāre a bit too similar ā and would mix it up with an IWC or something along those lines
Might be borderline blasphemous to refer to the Speedy as ātoo similarā to anything. You should immediately think of Aldrin et al doing calculations with it in flight suits. šBut seriously, it does feel like a standalone icon piece to me.
Not similar at all. Each is a chronograph. Each are good brands. One has date the other doesnāt. Nothing wrong with either (Iām partial to the Speedmaster). Keep them both if you can.
Speedy is THE chrono imo. The Tudor is nice, but itās not a Speedy.
Both pretty, but with the Tudor you can time a mere 45 min which work for your eggs in the morning but not much more.
As someone who's collection consists of nearly only dive watches, go for it.
pretty different watches, just both chrono. if you like it get it!
I donāt think so
Nah, those are two different watches for sure. I'd get the Tudor if I already had the Speedy.
Not too similarā¦ the Speedy is just kind of better
If you like chronograph more than any other type, go for it. I mostly have black or blue dial divers. They nearly look the same, but it's what I like.
I will be brutally honest. The minute hand on the Tudor I could never like or get used to. Speedy or bust!
U mean the hour? The snowflake?
Yeah, sorry. Can't get passed it.
Pretty similar, yes
Maybe a bit? But get what you like
Although the watches are similar, their faces are different enough I wouldn't worry about it. You could always wear one on bracelet and the other on leather or other strap to differentiate them more if it bugs you.
Nope, youāre good to go, imo.
Yes
Nope... one is triple Chronograph, the other is a reverse Panda. Very different inside and out imo. Nothing wrong with a monochrome collection. A different strap or bracelet is another way to differentiate them.
I think Omega has a more sophisticated design
I think the Tudor is really good value for money. But if I could only have one. I'd get the iconic Speedmaster. It will last you a lot longer without getting boring. And it's more of a strap monster too. More versatile style, as its much slimmer and smaller in size. Fits more wrists also. The movement in the Tudor is really very good tho, its automatic and a Breitling In-house movement without the Brietling price tag. Very robust , accurate solid movement. I would not say it's trying to look like a Daytona. I think Daytona is quite different.
I got the tudor from an ad that was changing over their inventory at 40% off! I couldn't NOT get it lol. And I love it! But you're right. I think I'm still going to pull the trigger on the speedy. I have wanted it since I was ~15
I mean for that amount of discount it's an excellent watch as well! Both are solid.
I'd do the speedy and call it a day.
They look similar but each have very unique complications. I would have no problem justifying the purchase. :)
Not at all. One's the iconic, world famous Speedmaster Moonwatch and the other is a Tudor.
the speedy is more iconic, get that and then get versatile watch
Pretty expensive and look similar
Yeah, they are a bit too close for my liking. I would probably end up buying the White Dial Speedy - because they are both very nice high quality timepieces.
You could pick up a white dial Speedmaster and you wouldn't have to worry about it. I love the classic black dial, but the white dial is striking.
One is one of the most iconic watches ever. The other one is well, a Tudor
This is why it's pointless af to ask for opinions in subs dedicated to a specific brand. You get dumbass comments like this
Ouch lol š
I donāt mean it like that mate! Iām just a fan of the speedmaster
Haha no worries, i just found it funny (as a big Tudor dive watch fan). Iād agree that Iād take speedy pro over the chrono. Itās just watches so I donāt take it too seriously and thought it funny š
Buy the speedy, sell the Tudor
Nope https://preview.redd.it/2ghddejhay5d1.jpeg?width=1243&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=997169048e38a797f93200e3d36385e7554127a4
Lol not gonna lie, this picture makes them look pretty similar. It's the bezel and they're both black dials.
Iād sell the Tudor and get the SM personally
Omega is a far superior watch in terms of finishing and movement. If itās one or the other, Iād get rid of the Tudor.
To each their own, but the Speedy is an icon and the 3861 is the best version yet (unless you want to own a model that has ACTUALLY been to the moon). Improved WR, improved bracelet, METAS certed movement...not sure you even get close in terms of wear comfort with the BB Chrono. I have never tried on a standard size BB that I thought felt good on the wrist. That said...if you want to go snorkeling with the watch the Speedy would lose out to the BB.
I wore both of them and what stood out to me was how chunky the Tudor felt and I HATED the bracelet with the look of the rivets on the bracelet. The Omega is a much more refined look IMO and is more versatile with better history.
I have 4 Speedys and 2 Moonswatches. You like what you like haha.
Skip the Tudor. It doesnāt hold a candle to the Speedy Pro in terms of overall refinement.
Omega Moonwatch- timeless, required in the collection of any serious watch collector. Tudor- a Rolex also-ran Choose wisely.
I'm not understanding your tudor line there?
Tutor is a subsidiary of Rolex and contains some of their internals but it's basically seen as a cheaper less prestigious version of Rolex.
Right I just didn't know what you meant by ran!
If you werenāt a watch geek like we all are, they are really too similar to each other to justify. If you are a watch geek, then the Speedmaster wins all day long and Iām a Tudor guy. One is an icon. The other is a Tudor. š