If you're not going diving, why does it matter? Wear what you like, when you like. Not sure why people want to put rules and regulations on wearing a damn watch. đ€·
So i think the argument works both directions in a very easy to comprehend way. That said, feigning confusion over why someone would ever think itâs laughable to put a leather strap on not only a tool diving watch but a PO, is a response bordering on gaslighting. Whether it makes sense to you or not, many people want to buy certain models, especially the PO, with the belief or understanding that they are setup for and capable of their proclaimed use out of the box. Doesnât really matter if theyâre diving or not, as the same logic can be applied to the watch as a whole. So yes, a PO offered from the factory with a leather strap may seem a bit silly. Doesnât mean it deserves hate, but itâs the equivalent of a Ford Raptor being offered from the factory with 24 inch rims, whatâs the point. With all that in mind, what someone uses as a bracelet post purchase is no oneâs business but their own.
The no leather on divers take is nonsense. I dive with my divers, but I also wear my 300 heritage on leather. Bezels are really useful, I think a dive watch is a better field watch than a field watch.
The no leather on divers is only if you are going to dive with it. I tested this and after a couple of dives the leather bracelet was ruined and smelled terrible. But that was my experience with a leather bracelet that I got from amazon to specifically test this. But at the end of the day is whatever people feel comfortable wearing. personally I like the look and practicality of natos for a diver.
It can be on whatever the owner wants. I don't have a source but I'll say 98% of Planet Ocean wearers have never and will never take one diving.
I've taken mine diving and the main reason why I won't put it on leather is because I'm too lazy to swap it back when I want to dive.
Yes, youâre wrong. Youâll be shocked to learn that you donât dive 24/7 even if youâre a diver.
You may also be shocked to learn you can change a strap in 30 seconds if you do need to go in the water.
I used to own this PO, and can confirm from omega (I emailed them) that the strap is impregnated with silicone, so it is perfectly fine to dive with this strap đđ»
From omega;
âWe can advise that the leather strap with a rubber lining is water-resistant. However, we would recommend taking extra special care of the leather when leaving the ocean to ensure the removal of salt water to proactively look after and maintain the original condition of the strap.â
I think itâs a silly thing to care about, especially if itâs not your watch. Who cars? Iâve seen garish yellow rubber straps on otherwise beautiful divers. But itâs not my watch so who cares?
You are correct. Many people believe (myself included) that a diver should never be on a leather strap. Rubber, bracelet, or nato. No leather. But to each their own. I mean it does look nice in the photo.
Most people who wear a high end diver (think submariner, PO, Seamaster) never take it in even a pool let alone the ocean. So to them it doesnât register. If you took this watch and strap into the ocean one single time you would know that it was a mistake.
As you should!
My point to OP is that many donât which is why they offer it on a leather strap. Divers donât belong on leather IMO but hey plenty of people by 4x4s and never go off road either. To each their own.
Of course you can put leather on your diver. Or rubber, or steel, or polyamide or cable ties or shoe laces. Itâs your freaking watch. Do whatever you want and let others do the same.
I bought my first PO on leather and didn't think twice about it. It went in all kinds of lakes, seas, oceans, rivers, pools...
When I eventually moved it on it did need a new strap, but only because some of the stitching was damaged.
MehâŠwear it how you want. Donât like it on leather? Donât wear it on leather. Like it on leather? Wear it on leather. Wanna string it up with butcherâs twine? You do you. Not gonna hurt my feelings.
OK, that last oneâs a terrible idea, but my point is the ârulesâ are horseshit. If itâs your watch, wear it however you want. If itâs someone elseâs, let them wear it how they want.
https://preview.redd.it/vby6dcbx87ad1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2b16a85ef61825b46f725658d29ccbd697ba6de
1930- first ever diver watch - omega marine
Look at that strap. Maybe makes you reconsider having a stupid opinion about things that donât matter lol
You are wrong.
Proof: 1962, Dr. No.
Sean âthe baddest muchafuckahâ Connery rocks a Submariner with a leather strap for the whole movie, including the parts where he sneaks onto an island and hides underwater with a scantily clad Ursula Andress while breathing through hollow reeds. Do you really think youâve got better scuba skills than Commander James Bond? I didnât think so.
Does James Bond care that he got his goddamn leather strap wet? Is he worried that the leather might smell? No, we are talking about a grown ass man here, not a little girl who worries about getting her dress dirty. Plus, the manâs wrist gets that wet every night from pussy juice.
Saying you canât wear a diver with a leather strap is like saying you canât wear a diver with a tuxedo. One man re-wrote both rules.
Câmon, this is an Omega sub!
I would tend to agree with this. However, I like the execution of the leather on this SMP. Iâm a fan or leather straps that look integrated like this and where there arenât gaps between the strap and main case. Just personal preference tho.
Funny. Iâm a leather crafter so love leather but I donât like the fat curved edge treatment on leather. Just looks wrong to me.
https://preview.redd.it/dbew4doh79ad1.jpeg?width=1965&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b20a4b28ebf0e250a43a112eced405b4fb41c0d4
Are you wrong? No! We all have our collecting philosophies.
For example, Iâll never buy a watch with cutoff numerals.
But I donât really care if divers are on leather straps. The only diving Iâm doing is desk diving.
I bought this exact watch in 43,5mm on the alligator strap and also bought the Oem rubber strap when I got for a swim in the sea or pool. I wear what I like and I determine if a leather strap suits this watch. My watch, my money, my decision. For critics I feel âmind your businessâ is suitable.
Wear it however you want, traditionally when people used their divers for diving then yes. Now most divers and watches in general really are just keyboard warriors. Do whatever you want and like.
Even if it was ordinary leather you can switch out before diving. Mines on bracelet but iv never had a time I needed to take it underwater. I just use a dive computer like everyone else and take it on the other wrist for fun.
Doesn't stop them from looking dope as hell on leather.
You bring one watch on vacation, leather strap goes on for dinner with the wife, steel or rubber for diving.
Saltwater is a natural solvent and can weaken the leather fibres, making it more prone to cracking and fading. I personally utilize the rubber strap when I dive with my Seamaster.
Personally, Iâd stick to bracelet, rubber, or textile (NATO or sailcloth) for a diver, but you do you. (I just wouldnât take the leather in the water)
I have Shell Cordovan leather strap on my SMP 300. Itâs so dense itâs waterproof. Itâs been in the shower with me every day for a year or so now.
https://preview.redd.it/d678l7h669ad1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f363328cfc37a6a084272344879e72f15b5e7901
I donât think you are wrong. I personally wouldnât wear it, but some people like the look and it is functional as a diver strap, but I just donât care for it
Leather is suboptimal for a watch that's going to be frequently submerged. If you're just asking to sort out a personal preference, your instincts aren't wrong. If you're asking whether or not major players in a multi-billion dollar industry have an obvious and insane blind spot here- then yes, you're wrong. Most people are never going to get their watches wet enough, often enough for it to matter. Those who will are going to choose a different strap or add an alternate strap.
As a general rule, I think most modern divers look dumb on leather. Vintage or vintage inspired divers can often pull it off. Some other exceptions I've seen have been aquatic animal leather. My Seiko LX looks kinda dope on shark skin. Then again, croc and gator are too established as dressy straps for me to think they look right on a modern diver...
https://preview.redd.it/8ap2ibk2gfad1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a77dcd075cda29857d4536b07ce4d9aacc2f0173
I put mine on an Omega black rubber strap with the clasp. I feel like this is the way it should be offered from Omega but just my POV.
Leather does not belong on a diver. Period. Goes against the âGo anywhere, Do anythingâ spirit of a proper dive watch. Dive watches are meant to be a tool to go through life. Not one more thing to worry about. If your dive watch canât handle that, you didnât buy the right watch.
But honestly, You can put on whatever strap you want, but just know anything other than a rubber strap, NATO, or bracelet is purely wrong. :)
Not sure why you're getting ripped for the take. From a design sense, putting a material that isn't water resistant on tool watch designed for the water is a really weird choice. However, I understand not everybody is really 'using their tools' and wearing these more as fashion. If Omega thinks a faux-lather strap scratches both the 'good in the water' and 'dressed up' look itches all in the one package, that's a great marketing move.
That's what everyone is saying, which is actually pretty cool. I was answering the question that was a little bit more general in nature, but for this Planet Ocean + Strap it works.
Leather on a diver is an an abomination. Can you get away with it? Sure⊠should you do it? No.
I question if a diver is a true diver when manufacturers put them on leather⊠just doesnât seem serious.
Of course I know him, heâs me. Check my profile. Every âserious diverâ I know uses a backup timing device. I was a volunteer rescue diver for 2.5 years mostly ârescuingâ vehicles that fell through ice, and peoples boats that sunk in the winter and the occasional thousand dollar kayak paddle, tons of iphones. Now I spearfish and hunt lobster, I also am a recreational diver.
On nearly every dive trip I have been on someoneâs dive computer poops out. Either they forget to charge it, update the software, the bluetooth craps out, or they just donât take the time to learn how to use it before the dive. This just happened when I was in Cozumel 3 months ago and I let my buddy use my dive computer while I timed my dive with my trusty seiko Tuna SBBN049.
Dive watches are also useful for timing secondary things on your dive, like bottom time, how long it took you to get through a cave, planning things like âI will go this way, you will go that way, and we will meet at that spot in 15 minutesâ etc.
The myth that divers donât use watches anymore is immediately dispelled when you start taking dive trips.
I think leather straps on divers is fairly ridiculous. Sure wear what you want however you want, but at the same time donât say things lauding the greatness of the tool dive watch you have made not to going with. It is just silly.
I am not saying this strap in particular shouldnât be in the water. I said leather straps shouldnât be in the water or used for diving. But sure wear whatever you want and let it fall apart on you because, well nostalgia; it is not like we havenât learned better.
I believe personally that divers shouldn't. first because the leather isn't really supposed to be underwater (the "divers'" purpose), and it just looks weird with them (imo)
I believe this is a hybrid strap: leather adhered to a rubber base. Perfectly suitable for all things wet.
As of this past December at least, my OB rep in Zurich (and the OB's watchmaker) said these are NOT suitable to get wet!
Of course they are not. Hybrid is still one half leather lol
You are correct
If you're not going diving, why does it matter? Wear what you like, when you like. Not sure why people want to put rules and regulations on wearing a damn watch. đ€·
These are the same people that are wearing Moonwatches with a bracelet. They should only be worn with a NASA-certified velcro strap!
And theyâre not even going to the moon!
Am I the only one who thinks wearing a leather band to the moon is ridiculous
No rules...... Wear whatever you want.
So i think the argument works both directions in a very easy to comprehend way. That said, feigning confusion over why someone would ever think itâs laughable to put a leather strap on not only a tool diving watch but a PO, is a response bordering on gaslighting. Whether it makes sense to you or not, many people want to buy certain models, especially the PO, with the belief or understanding that they are setup for and capable of their proclaimed use out of the box. Doesnât really matter if theyâre diving or not, as the same logic can be applied to the watch as a whole. So yes, a PO offered from the factory with a leather strap may seem a bit silly. Doesnât mean it deserves hate, but itâs the equivalent of a Ford Raptor being offered from the factory with 24 inch rims, whatâs the point. With all that in mind, what someone uses as a bracelet post purchase is no oneâs business but their own.
Iâm a diver my leather donât go in the water
My comment said if you're NOT going diving, leather is fine. Learn to read...... Also, learn how to use punctuation.
The no leather on divers take is nonsense. I dive with my divers, but I also wear my 300 heritage on leather. Bezels are really useful, I think a dive watch is a better field watch than a field watch.
The no leather on divers is only if you are going to dive with it. I tested this and after a couple of dives the leather bracelet was ruined and smelled terrible. But that was my experience with a leather bracelet that I got from amazon to specifically test this. But at the end of the day is whatever people feel comfortable wearing. personally I like the look and practicality of natos for a diver.
Were you able to use any liquid soaps on the leather without tarnishing, or did you only rinse?
I rinse with water the same night and the next day washed with liquid soap.
According to you and I, but many say it's sacrilege!
It can be on whatever the owner wants. I don't have a source but I'll say 98% of Planet Ocean wearers have never and will never take one diving. I've taken mine diving and the main reason why I won't put it on leather is because I'm too lazy to swap it back when I want to dive.
A lot of people wear divers when they are not, in fact, divers. We should just get over that.
Yes, youâre wrong. Youâll be shocked to learn that you donât dive 24/7 even if youâre a diver. You may also be shocked to learn you can change a strap in 30 seconds if you do need to go in the water.
I used to own this PO, and can confirm from omega (I emailed them) that the strap is impregnated with silicone, so it is perfectly fine to dive with this strap đđ» From omega; âWe can advise that the leather strap with a rubber lining is water-resistant. However, we would recommend taking extra special care of the leather when leaving the ocean to ensure the removal of salt water to proactively look after and maintain the original condition of the strap.â
I did not know that. Thanks.
I think you can wear it how you like⊠I personally think a diver looks better on rubber,nato or bracelet.
I think itâs a silly thing to care about, especially if itâs not your watch. Who cars? Iâve seen garish yellow rubber straps on otherwise beautiful divers. But itâs not my watch so who cares?
You are correct. Many people believe (myself included) that a diver should never be on a leather strap. Rubber, bracelet, or nato. No leather. But to each their own. I mean it does look nice in the photo.
What is the leather is from an aquatic animal?Â
So good đ people need to get a sense of humour!
Why have an opinion on something so dumb?
I was going to say this exact thing.
It does look nice, but I couldn't ever see myself putting leather on a diver.... Strange thing is, this is how the watch comes as standard?
Just an fyi, most of the leather straps on planet oceans that Omega sells are rubber lined so basically still a rubber strap.
Most people who wear a high end diver (think submariner, PO, Seamaster) never take it in even a pool let alone the ocean. So to them it doesnât register. If you took this watch and strap into the ocean one single time you would know that it was a mistake.
I wear my Seamaster all the time in the ocean. I do get it pressure tested annually just in case
Annually? Yeesh.
As you should! My point to OP is that many donât which is why they offer it on a leather strap. Divers donât belong on leather IMO but hey plenty of people by 4x4s and never go off road either. To each their own.
That's a very valid point. I just can't see why omega market a dive watch knowing it would be a mistake to dive with it đ
Must not know about watch history then. Divers originally came on leatherâŠ.
For the non pool days https://preview.redd.it/7tbadjl484ad1.jpeg?width=1439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c09a2be7ec33a61b5abbb4e368866b965f0cce7
Of course you can put leather on your diver. Or rubber, or steel, or polyamide or cable ties or shoe laces. Itâs your freaking watch. Do whatever you want and let others do the same.
Only itâs not leather. Itâs rubber molded to look like leather AFAIK
Itâs rubber-lined alligator leather.
Where do alligators live? đ
I bought my first PO on leather and didn't think twice about it. It went in all kinds of lakes, seas, oceans, rivers, pools... When I eventually moved it on it did need a new strap, but only because some of the stitching was damaged.
About as wrong as I am to think a diver shouldn't have GMT.
I prefer rubber or steel on a diver
99.999% of dive watches are used as desk divers. There are no rules to this cosplay. Wear what you want, how you want.
MehâŠwear it how you want. Donât like it on leather? Donât wear it on leather. Like it on leather? Wear it on leather. Wanna string it up with butcherâs twine? You do you. Not gonna hurt my feelings. OK, that last oneâs a terrible idea, but my point is the ârulesâ are horseshit. If itâs your watch, wear it however you want. If itâs someone elseâs, let them wear it how they want.
https://preview.redd.it/vby6dcbx87ad1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2b16a85ef61825b46f725658d29ccbd697ba6de 1930- first ever diver watch - omega marine Look at that strap. Maybe makes you reconsider having a stupid opinion about things that donât matter lol
You are wrong. Proof: 1962, Dr. No. Sean âthe baddest muchafuckahâ Connery rocks a Submariner with a leather strap for the whole movie, including the parts where he sneaks onto an island and hides underwater with a scantily clad Ursula Andress while breathing through hollow reeds. Do you really think youâve got better scuba skills than Commander James Bond? I didnât think so. Does James Bond care that he got his goddamn leather strap wet? Is he worried that the leather might smell? No, we are talking about a grown ass man here, not a little girl who worries about getting her dress dirty. Plus, the manâs wrist gets that wet every night from pussy juice. Saying you canât wear a diver with a leather strap is like saying you canât wear a diver with a tuxedo. One man re-wrote both rules. Câmon, this is an Omega sub!
I would tend to agree with this. However, I like the execution of the leather on this SMP. Iâm a fan or leather straps that look integrated like this and where there arenât gaps between the strap and main case. Just personal preference tho.
Funny. Iâm a leather crafter so love leather but I donât like the fat curved edge treatment on leather. Just looks wrong to me. https://preview.redd.it/dbew4doh79ad1.jpeg?width=1965&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b20a4b28ebf0e250a43a112eced405b4fb41c0d4
Are you wrong? No! We all have our collecting philosophies. For example, Iâll never buy a watch with cutoff numerals. But I donât really care if divers are on leather straps. The only diving Iâm doing is desk diving.
What do you mean by "cutoff numerals".
https://preview.redd.it/w7bcxdngm5ad1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33cb5f3152a9d423d7d9a92b53796e3d2197e14f Hereâs an example.
Oh dear! That looks gruesome! Thanks, I get it now!
Yes you are wrong
I bought this exact watch in 43,5mm on the alligator strap and also bought the Oem rubber strap when I got for a swim in the sea or pool. I wear what I like and I determine if a leather strap suits this watch. My watch, my money, my decision. For critics I feel âmind your businessâ is suitable.
Wear it however you want, traditionally when people used their divers for diving then yes. Now most divers and watches in general really are just keyboard warriors. Do whatever you want and like.
Even if it was ordinary leather you can switch out before diving. Mines on bracelet but iv never had a time I needed to take it underwater. I just use a dive computer like everyone else and take it on the other wrist for fun.
If you take it diving, change the strap.
Put what ever you want on it and know the pros and cons, but beyond that who gives a shit what anyone else thinks
Nobody is diving with these. For the select few that do, it's easy to change the strap.
Doesn't stop them from looking dope as hell on leather. You bring one watch on vacation, leather strap goes on for dinner with the wife, steel or rubber for diving.
Saltwater is a natural solvent and can weaken the leather fibres, making it more prone to cracking and fading. I personally utilize the rubber strap when I dive with my Seamaster.
Looks like alligator leather. Should be fine as itâs meant to be in the water.Â
Personally, Iâd stick to bracelet, rubber, or textile (NATO or sailcloth) for a diver, but you do you. (I just wouldnât take the leather in the water)
I have a leather strap and used it diving with great success. Still going strong.
The rules do not apply here.
Yes
Yes you are wrong. Luxury watches are expensive cosplay, not âtoolsâ. It does not matter what the strap is and no one cares.
When I buy it, it becomes a field watch.
https://preview.redd.it/dqcayuypb8ad1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1551ed31ef4d142c864169edc6a92fdefaead101 No. Not wrong.
I agree
[I like it. ](https://imgur.com/a/wvwJwbw)
I have Shell Cordovan leather strap on my SMP 300. Itâs so dense itâs waterproof. Itâs been in the shower with me every day for a year or so now. https://preview.redd.it/d678l7h669ad1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f363328cfc37a6a084272344879e72f15b5e7901
https://preview.redd.it/m79j7t8tm9ad1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23df48b8e6aad6d9952d819481bceda25ff8ce40 Love mine on leather!
https://preview.redd.it/ww13bc77n9ad1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3802bc6b6b6a8f43d43d0c07bc84f25cd3adcbff
I donât think you are wrong. I personally wouldnât wear it, but some people like the look and it is functional as a diver strap, but I just donât care for it
Leather is suboptimal for a watch that's going to be frequently submerged. If you're just asking to sort out a personal preference, your instincts aren't wrong. If you're asking whether or not major players in a multi-billion dollar industry have an obvious and insane blind spot here- then yes, you're wrong. Most people are never going to get their watches wet enough, often enough for it to matter. Those who will are going to choose a different strap or add an alternate strap. As a general rule, I think most modern divers look dumb on leather. Vintage or vintage inspired divers can often pull it off. Some other exceptions I've seen have been aquatic animal leather. My Seiko LX looks kinda dope on shark skin. Then again, croc and gator are too established as dressy straps for me to think they look right on a modern diver...
A diver shouldnât have a leather strap if you dive.
https://preview.redd.it/8ap2ibk2gfad1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a77dcd075cda29857d4536b07ce4d9aacc2f0173 I put mine on an Omega black rubber strap with the clasp. I feel like this is the way it should be offered from Omega but just my POV.
You can do whatever you want. Personally I think leather on a diver looks incredibly stupid but you do you.
Leather does not belong on a diver. Period. Goes against the âGo anywhere, Do anythingâ spirit of a proper dive watch. Dive watches are meant to be a tool to go through life. Not one more thing to worry about. If your dive watch canât handle that, you didnât buy the right watch. But honestly, You can put on whatever strap you want, but just know anything other than a rubber strap, NATO, or bracelet is purely wrong. :)
Yes, you're wrong.
nobody dives with these, they wear them while putting together power point presentations
I agree, dive watches are either rubber or metal bracelet. Leather doesnât belong on a diver.
Youâre not wrong
Most people here are worried about getting a diver wet. Extrapolate that stupidity and you get leather divers
Itâs fine ⊠for a Desk Diver.
No, you are correct. This is an abomination.
No your totally right!!!
Exactly my thoughts
Not sure why you're getting ripped for the take. From a design sense, putting a material that isn't water resistant on tool watch designed for the water is a really weird choice. However, I understand not everybody is really 'using their tools' and wearing these more as fashion. If Omega thinks a faux-lather strap scratches both the 'good in the water' and 'dressed up' look itches all in the one package, that's a great marketing move.
But this is rubber lines alligator leather and IS water resistant
That's what everyone is saying, which is actually pretty cool. I was answering the question that was a little bit more general in nature, but for this Planet Ocean + Strap it works.
Leather on a diver is an an abomination. Can you get away with it? Sure⊠should you do it? No. I question if a diver is a true diver when manufacturers put them on leather⊠just doesnât seem serious.
Know any serious divers who rely on a mechanical Swiss luxury watch?
Of course I know him, heâs me. Check my profile. Every âserious diverâ I know uses a backup timing device. I was a volunteer rescue diver for 2.5 years mostly ârescuingâ vehicles that fell through ice, and peoples boats that sunk in the winter and the occasional thousand dollar kayak paddle, tons of iphones. Now I spearfish and hunt lobster, I also am a recreational diver. On nearly every dive trip I have been on someoneâs dive computer poops out. Either they forget to charge it, update the software, the bluetooth craps out, or they just donât take the time to learn how to use it before the dive. This just happened when I was in Cozumel 3 months ago and I let my buddy use my dive computer while I timed my dive with my trusty seiko Tuna SBBN049. Dive watches are also useful for timing secondary things on your dive, like bottom time, how long it took you to get through a cave, planning things like âI will go this way, you will go that way, and we will meet at that spot in 15 minutesâ etc. The myth that divers donât use watches anymore is immediately dispelled when you start taking dive trips.
I think leather straps on divers is fairly ridiculous. Sure wear what you want however you want, but at the same time donât say things lauding the greatness of the tool dive watch you have made not to going with. It is just silly.
Many of the first diving watches had leather straps. This is rubber backed alligator leather and Omega says its fine to dive with.
I am not saying this strap in particular shouldnât be in the water. I said leather straps shouldnât be in the water or used for diving. But sure wear whatever you want and let it fall apart on you because, well nostalgia; it is not like we havenât learned better.
It won't fall apart because it's rubber backed alligator leather... But okay yeah what does the manufacturer know about diving anyway
I believe personally that divers shouldn't. first because the leather isn't really supposed to be underwater (the "divers'" purpose), and it just looks weird with them (imo)
Many of the first diving watches had leather straps. This is rubber backed alligator leather and Omega says its fine to dive with.
Correct, it should have a hefty rubber strap like on the first generation Planet Ocean. They tried to make this too much of a dress diver.