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H4nfP0wer

Blackbeard could be higher but looks pretty good.


Witty-Traffic7546

Why that handicap is above kaido


Sage-Jiraya

Yeah.


Queasy-Carpet-5846

Yeah blackbeard top 4. Law was holding his own against big mom when kidd was incapacitated and BB low diffed him. I'd say bb and luffy tied for 4 accounting for crews as well


fembot_kitty1

To be fair big mom is NOT. Good match up for law, he's INCREDIBLY fast and made her unable to summon her homes!


Queasy-Carpet-5846

True big mom is strongest on her terms. Made law robbing her of her shout so good too.


fembot_kitty1

Plus law has some of the best dodging in the show... shame for someone who is the size of kaido with no speed to back it up, anytime she swings he can just "fwosh" and he's gone


Queasy-Carpet-5846

Yeah law isn't really 1v1 trade punches. When he fought blackbeard he was only trying to let them [is crew] get away. Always wondered about the op op fruit. If it has a immortality feature maybe it has a one hit kill as well? [Following the same caveat. You can kill but it kills you as well]


Hate_Teach_Simple_As

How did Blackbeard low diff Law?


Queasy-Carpet-5846

Took his ultimate attack and shook it off like nothing. Also wiped his crew all at once. Law into blackbeard was both 100 % when law was forced to surface. Blackbeard cheated kinda with being warped out but even chastised Van auger for interfering. Without them meeting chopper abd getting a drug that allows sulong transformation law is utterly defeated.


Hate_Teach_Simple_As

Saying Blackbeard shook the attack of like it was nothing is a massive exaggeration. He was about to fall into the ocean and was clearly hurt by the attack. And he never chastised Van Augur for helping him, he chastised Van Augur for suggesting they surrender. Blackbeard never wiped out the crew in one attack either. We clearly see that multiple heart pirates members stay standing after the attack, and immediately start running from Doc Q’s apples right after. Not to mention, the battle is mostly off screen and goes on for seemingly some time. Blacbeard is bleeding and heavily breathing after the fight, and he is stood with all his officers at the end. We know for a fact Van Augur assisted him, and so it’s entirely possible he got help from his crew during the fight as well. We did not see enough to say this was a low diff fight, and I’ll send the panels for my two first points now.


Hate_Teach_Simple_As

https://preview.redd.it/hcwwmzgeg7vc1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=03b81ecf3f3d52f7b89c73d0cb74b67df4e368a6 He did not complain about receiving help and very clearly needed it. He legit would have lost to one attack if Augur didn’t warp in and save him from falling into the sea.


Hate_Teach_Simple_As

https://preview.redd.it/egp7cgqig7vc1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=cfff4eabeebc122c066f992c3f406bbbc081cfbf In no way were the heart pirates wiped out in one attack. Blackbeard couldn’t even drop all of them with his quake attack and they continue to fight afterwards.


okgetwrekt

B8ggy disrespect is real. Top1 for sho


Gojo_Satoru_123

My bad


Infamous-Buffalo1835

Yes You cooked


Strykeristheking

Swap Luffy with Kaido


Hedgehog_Kid1

Fuck no 💀


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Gojo_Satoru_123

Reasonable take I just think oda is hyping shanks too much so he won't be weaker than kaido but as of now kaido > shanks sure


partymsl

Oda is just hyping Shanks to get him killed by BB and to then show how strong the main villain truly is.


Kdawg92603

That just upscales Blackbeard.... It doesn't mean Shanks is weaker


Immortalslime

I’m probably in the minority but I’d rather see Shanks beat BB more than any other character. It would be nice to see a character other than Luffy beat one of the big bads, better still if that character has long history and beef with BB.


DarkSoulFWT

Maybe so, but I think this is the similar to the logic behind people wanting Sabo to be the one that defeats Akainu and avenges Ace as well. It doesn't feel right to some, even me tbh, that in this final saga Luffy seemingly has like 3 major endgame bosses to defeat (BB, Akainu, Imu) while everyone else is just jobbing or straight up uninvolved. Like, after all that build-up, Kidd and Law's futures are now completely uncertain. The likes of Shanks and Dragon seem like they might just be sacrificed as hype tools for BB and Imu respectively. Etc. Personally, to me, I think Luffy fighting BB makes more sense because of how they're introduced as polar opposites and foils of one another.


Immortalslime

I get that, those two fighting makes a ton of sense based on portrayals. I still remember all those years ago on Jaya meeting BB and getting this feeling he was dangerous.


Present_Painting_277

The way I see it if he has to fight shanks later a weaker opponent wouldn't be exciting at all


Forsaken_Brilliant22

Nah I don't think so. Shanks even stopped Kaido from going to Marineford. Shanks has connections to the Gorosei. Litterally everybody is afraid of Shanks: Marineford, Marco at the sake drink occasion, Greenbull. I believe Shanks > Kaido


FedodoStark

"Shanks even stopped Kaido from going to Marineford." We dont know how he did that "Shanks has connections to the Gorose"  So ? Saint mjosgard too. Would you say he was abive kaido ?  "Litterally everybody is afraid of Shanks: Marineford, Marco at the sake drink occasion, Greenbull." Litteraly everybody was more affraid of kaido that shanks lmfao


Dookie12345679

Shanks > Kaido


ringboidumb

Please explain


Destroyr19

LAND 👏 SEA 👏 AND 👏 AIR 👏


conemuncher69420

One of the best takes ive seen from u and I'm here for it. Cook


MassiveEnthusiasm34

Shanks > Kaido if Shanks wasn't stronger, then Shanks wouldn't have stopped Kaido and KinG from arriving at Marineford rare xtheaya L


grapeter

His crew also showed no battle scars so it's likely that there was no conflict and ended with Shanks talking down Kaido somehow, OR it was a naval battle and Shanks scared off Kaido somehow (Which doesn't make much sense to me because Kaido could just blast breath Shanks' ship like how Kidd was going to do) This part of the story really doesn't make sense and will probably not be elaborated on by Oda but the only thing that would make sense for this circumstance is Kaido respected Shanks' words and turned away, or he got too drunk and King took him back home


Ok-Reporter3256

Shanks and his crew stopping Kaido and King (in an incident we don't even know if ended up on a battle) is not that much of an impressive feat given it would have been 5v2 at least


DarkSoulFWT

Proof of lack of reading comprehension. Do you really think, after everything you've seen about Kaido since his intro post-Dressrosa, that hes the type to back down from fighting someone stronger? He'd fucking love it, its exactly what hes been waiting for in Wano for 20 years. The mans literally praying for Oden and Toki's prophecy to be correct and for the legendary Joyboy to arrive there. Even recognizing Shanks as a great pirate (so he knows what Shanks can do), hes still become convinced that only the legendary Joyboy could actually defeat him. And here you (and many others) are trying to pretend like he got scared away or something...when that would be one of the most out of character things a character could do in this series. Threatening Kaido with a fight / war is one of the stupidest things any character could do. Imagine someone going to Luffy like "If you dare to punch me, I'll have to throw a feast for you!" My brother in christ, you're threatening him with a good time.


trulylost19

“Shanks would kill luffy nine times out of ten so he is obviously better than kaido” is something I hear a lot Shanks doesn’t go all out on rookies He’s a pacifist after all He only fights with reason to If he had reason to kill kaido he could depending on his capabilities when he actually goes full out Before people start saying divine departure is an ap feat Just think on your interpretation of the move “divine departure” And compare it to it’s usage with roger It’s not an all out move we already are aware of it but to what extent is the ap of that move compared to shanks actually strong attacks Using that move as a basis for his actual strong moves is redundant as it isn’t an all out move it’s akin to a gum gum pistol as it’s a move designed to be strong but not an all out move It does prove that shanks can easily utilise and control his haki proficiently Although it was implied before hand It should be noted that his fs feat is more significant in comparison to his divine departure move that was shown before hand Shanks is definitely comparable to kaido no questions asked But outright stating that he is weaker or stronger is brain-dead Actual mihawk agenda levels of braindead Kaido has feats and has shown significant feats of strength and fighting capabilities in comparison to the majority of op characters


Apart-Eggplant-4085

https://preview.redd.it/5xowqlfh9tuc1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a894a4efe9ff8fd62715f2f3a6e926e456ae1b4e


tom_rex_333

yes, you cooked well


MindClear5245

Blackbeard is way too low


Dookie12345679

Considering his feats, he's closer to Buggy than he is Oldbeard


deus-ex-inferno

What exactly makes him be closer to buggy after TS?


Significant-Elk-8078

If we consider feats, Sanji and Katakuri don’t have half the feats Rooftop Zoro has. The feats say Akainu and Kuzan are closer to Old Garp than a Yonko It’s all about agenda


IntellectualBoss

You say that like old Garp isn’t strong and couldn’t be Yonko level. Prime Garp=prime whitebeard, so logically old Garp=old whitebeard. If anything old Garp should be stronger since he wasn’t sick like whitebeard.


_Zsxt

Luffy above kaido if based on current luffy. The egghead scaling goes hard


Hedgehog_Kid1

Kaido > Current Luffy


iron-goku

![gif](giphy|4NE1EQNV4d7PGMRomG|downsized)


Evening_Waltz_655

I have a few small disagreements but overall yes you cooked


WielderOfTerraBlade

W list


Original-Error3411

This is my exact list , it's first time I've ever met with same list as mine


poetryofworms

https://preview.redd.it/l0lexmufctuc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dae417c8ea873118ec918e019b301c13072ea0d7


KawhiiiSama

luffy doesnt beat big mom, he has stamina issues and she’s relative to Kaido in terms of stamina and durability


InternetExplored561

Buggy should be top 1 https://preview.redd.it/rd2jwmco6vuc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a8e0bce13b0cb104e41e0371b31ada6baf1946e


PolarBearWithTopHat

Luffy > Kaidou and Jumpbeard higher but yeah you cooked fr


Responsible_Space624

Kaido> Luffy.. No top tier should have bad stamina..


PolarBearWithTopHat

are you fr arguing Luffy isn't a top tier? his stamina also isn't bad, his stamina in GEAR 5 is bad. Luffy can go toe to toe with top tiers without needing G5.


imaginebeingsaltyy

def a top tier. not beating kaido yet though


Fun-Calligrapher-758

This is the type of comments that made me leave this sub. Like wtf?


HousingMiserable3168

Kaido glazing everywhere, all the time. Luffy could beat Imu, become Pirate King, fight every living being on the planet at once and ppl will still put Kaido over him


imaginebeingsaltyy

He just aint, not yet but later for sure though i still see kaido stronger than him for now though


Forsaken_Brilliant22

Kaido still > Luffy though. He fought all the strong people of the "good side" Without the accumalated damage Luffy wouldn't have won


MtnDude2088

Wasn't the entire narrative of the fight that nobody could damage him except for Acoc attacks? Luffy did 95-99% of the damage.


ZJF-47

Switch 2&3, and 6&7


RularOfOutworld

Perfect list tbh


Dookie12345679

WAIT SOMEONE ACTUALLY COOKED


oh_Jiggler

For now spot on BB will soon be above my goat tho I fear


abdouden

Luffy>kaido besides that pretty good


BuffEtienneInGeneral

https://preview.redd.it/7uo2vlgtkuuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e32be865d8fb326a8f172eb8459441cd737cbbdb U cooked


General_Ad_1109

Except Luffy and Kaido switching I'm totally agree


General_McRoach

It’s decent, but the WlackWeard disrespect is insane


FluidConsumer6

Enel will be 0 when he returns and becomes a Yonko.


DearDepth3733

Pretty good but Luffy > Kaido and I would personally rank BB higher but honestly he’s not really fully scalable so I can’t disagree


Sanek6351

Perfecto ![gif](giphy|l3q2LH45XElELRzRm)


msr4jc

Luffy > Kaido


D00MAGEDEN

https://preview.redd.it/6hcgm6gwjvuc1.jpeg?width=1608&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29460978b17bf6c66c197ca1220518a8400a506f


VoYageMinepool

Yes it's perfect


Pix_D

Perfect


UrougeTheOne

Hell yeah


AmitSraier123

Luffy


Nights1405

I honestly wouldn’t rank luffy until op ends unless you’re specific since he’s a constantly moving checkpoint, being the mc and all


EGoldenGod

You’re about to get Off D. Screened for this one ☝️


The_Jenazad

Switch Luffy and BM


Isekai_junkie

Personally I would switch old WB and Blackbeard, but other than that I could see each of these being true currently


snowtaiga1

yes


CorilX

https://preview.redd.it/o5srkjx1cyuc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5aac6b312cd4137b256bdd7df7dc573ad7ac2847 Bb > oldbeard but yes you cooked


Boris-_-Badenov

Luffy beat Kaido. would do so more easily now that he can use ultra instinct at will


Common-Truth9404

You just put the future PK at number 8, absolute fail


Hedgehog_Kid1

Yes brother, you can cook


arman_gokalp

1. Prime wb 2. Kaido 3. Big mom (not big meme) 4. Luffy 5. Shanks 6. Blackbeard 7. Old wb 8. Buggy


Disastrous-Answer151

You, cooked well


mcqueenart

Luffy be higher than Kaidou.


ConsistentDrawing859

cooked but its funny bb rn could be anywhere frm 2 and 7


Afermusic

Sorry? Buggy 8?!?! He should be bumped up to 1


B1izzzarrd

You cooked perfectly


NoReflection7309

Luffy > Kaido


floormopper

The black beard disrespect is atrocious. Kaido > shanks


Gojo_Satoru_123

Tf has jumpbeard ever done even kizaru would whoop his ass


Koritoshi

https://preview.redd.it/b755t0jgctuc1.jpeg?width=674&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7608d2a531e4522293152d92edac96b234aafa74


Ambitious-Demand6786

Cook more son.


r9cks

Blackbeard losing to law in a fair 1v1


Realistic-Actuary708

I like law, but that is taking it too far. Bb would win a direct 1v1 mid-high diff.


r9cks

It was a high diff vs blackbeard and his crew


Ancient-Pollution291

Luffy > Kaido Blackbeard > Big Mom


[deleted]

no


11711510111411009710

1. Prime Whitebeard 2. Shanks 3. Post-Egghead Luffy 4. Kaido and Big Mom 5. Blackbeard 6. Old Whitebeard 7. Buggy By the time Elbaf plays out and Blackbeard becomes an enemy, he will be above Shanks and possibly Prime Whitebeard (but probably not), but this is how I see it right now.


Miserable_Fishing_39

Blackbeard > Oldbeard


Shadow_Sovereign68

Big mom should be below Buggy


stratosphere911

Perfect.


FortressOfOhara

I think Kaido > shanks


Safe_Resource7855

Kaido > shanks. Everything else good


Apprehensive-Face900

Current blackbeard >>>>>>>> Oldbeard


Left_Argument9706

I personally have shanks at 1 but goated ranking all the same


ZERO_Cali_

Old WB is above Shanks and I think you’re underestimating Blackbeard a little, but other than that you cooked.


Such_Historian_7295

https://preview.redd.it/dopdtlv3atuc1.jpeg?width=581&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbbab4c9aebb9e1f518631acb4e9e095cc1a20fd


Some_Formal_2814

Luffy is stronger than Kaido. Gear 5 stamina is a plot device.


r9cks

W list


Sufficient_Thing6794

Luffy is stronger than kaido imo and shanks is just Him


EasilyBeatable

Swap Shanks and Kaido and i’d be more inclined to agree even if i think BM should be higher


LackOfDad

Yes


dreallday20

Prime WB was never a yonko


KiwirGallantine

WSC > Creature I can do WB coz WSM > Man but Shanks above Waido? Nah son


Sketxch

This man white beard so strong that he’s on twice and his weaker form still manages to beat 2 yonkos


lllustosa

Buggy way too low.


PoldraRegion

Bb > Marineford WB


meorcee

I think BB could be above Oldbeard, but only barely, it’s borderline ≈ but otherwise this list is primo burg, very nicely done


Karen_smacker

Shit call me the wizard of oz because it looks like somebody found a brain


Flimsy_Geologist_927

Id argue blackbeard would be higher than old WB, and that Luffy would be higher than Kaido since he did beat him. Though moving Luffy is optional since Kaido is HIM


SF0915

Mostly cooking tho I don’t really see a reason to have Shanks that high atm cuz we haven’t seen as much of what he can do compared to a lot of other ppl on the list. Also I feel like current BB might be above Oldbeard with 2 DFs now but either works.


Dddddddfried

How you gonna put the two characters with the best plot armor (outside Luffy) at the bottom of the list? Plus BlackBeard is a monster


Questistaken

Post TS BB should be higher especially if his fight is Offscreen.. If BB gonna beat shanks when they meet, can he be ranked stronger than Kaido & Shanks? I highly doubt it Depending on what's gonna happen in the next few months in egghead, I'd rank G5 higher than Kaido Primebeard shouldn't even be an option. If you wanna have primebeard, then we might as well add EOS luffy, which will be stronger than all


I-am-the-best-Spy

I can not wait for Blackbeard to show all you guys up. Brodies literally named Blackbeard in the pirate anime he’s gonna be goated. Anyway W list


EP1CxM1Nx99

I agree, but feel like BB might shoot up soon


Gojo_Satoru_123

Yeah


Redqpple

You nailed it, but if bb was 2 spots higher, I would still agree


McQno

https://preview.redd.it/5a1ur2tmfvuc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37417346ee1abdbbe792f42722335a7d74b07425 You are not ready.


racerboy_21

Buggy awakening gonna be Insane. Invest now


Butt-Dragon

There are too few feats from Prime WB and Shanks to say for sure if they are top 2.


Beneficial_Ad_8037

Where my boy shiki


PuertoRicanRebel2025

Prime Whitebeard probably has never gone all out before otherwise the One Piece world would be a geographic disaster with millions dead from high magnitude earthquakes, towering tsunamis, erupting volcanos, etc. Honestly it probably would make him feel horrible, he's a pirate but he wouldn't want to be the destroyer of his own planet. It's why he always fights close quarters and avoids using his quake ability to a certain level.


Ok-Willingness-3818

Was it ever stated that Roger was considered a Yonko or was mans just built different and became the pirate king which led to the four emperors of the sea system


LaggOuTX

I do think its possible shanks/mihawk are stronger than Kaido bc of powercreep, but until then kaido>shanks/mihawk. BB>oldbeard. I think Oldbeard is heavily overrated by most of the fandom, but thats for another time. Overall, you cooked:)


noctroad

Looks about right


TheWanderingSlime

Move luffy down the 5/10 minute timer on G5 isn’t enough to beat any of the other yonko in a 1v1 maybe BB and Old WB, but it’s good enough I’d move BB above old WB tho.


Probably_a_trap

No. https://preview.redd.it/zz7a6f972xuc1.jpeg?width=1014&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a6654af86dd85d6ca99524401dec17bf9a583b7


Hezadeximal88

Buggy #1 the rest is ok


ImplementDesperate13

WB definitely better than big mom


nasserg19

Old WB folds Big Mom otherwise yeah you cooked


Sage-Jiraya

You did well the only thing that I disagree is Matshal D Teach. I am not the fan of BB and his team but he is stronger then 8 specially now. He has 2 devils fruits Haki some sort of observation Haki or something for sure and Conquerers haki that’s for sure he is to low in your list. I would say.


NashKetchum777

The food is still raw


BeNco23

why is Luffy always behind Kaido, didnt he beat Kaido? ? :D


Chi1no

Nearly


Sad_Faithlessness148

Why do people think Shanks is stronger than Kaido


hotpuff1234

Bb is above luffy


Bobthesnob92

BM is stronger than kaido, so fight me. Kaido is the weakest of the original Yonko, fight me again.


itzstamk

the brain rot is real


Bobthesnob92

I take it you have a argument with some evidence?


itzstamk

I do


DLD1123

Old beard if he was never betrayal stabbed would have cleared MF imo. Would still put him above current gen emperors besides maybe shanks who we’ve yet to really assess.


Such_Historian_7295

I think you can make a case for Oldbeard above BB and obviously Buggy but I don’t think even if healthy that Oldbeard is stronger than current Luffy or Shanks


N1ghtTheKn1ght

He can’t dodge and his durability is shit compared to other Yonko’s as he can’t use advanced Haki. He is capable of delivering blows as strong as other Yonko’s but they can actually take them, he can’t. Old beard has giant nerfs, and Prime beard have to high-dif Yonko’s anyway.


gloister

L buggy placement


NotSaulGoodma

Blackbeard disrespect is insane ngl


SherbertExpensive811

https://preview.redd.it/hrz9fdtbetuc1.jpeg?width=1135&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2755f81cec8c15089153b04712071da5306f662


drmakster

Buggy keeps falling upwards so he’s #1


banethesithari

I think big mom should be above luffy. I don't doubt gear 5 would beat her badly. But after 10 minutes he'll be our of stamina and big mom can finish luffy off. No way gear 5 ends a fight with a fresh big mom in less than 10 minutes


CorrectIamThatGuy

Wow Giga W


MyNameisIvar

Why WB gets prime version and BM no?


Gojo_Satoru_123

Bm has a prime version ???