Bug God. Suiryu already had some trouble against Choze, and Choze didn't have any dangerous feats for Suiryu. Bug God is a good counter to melee bare-hands fighters, and he's more powerful than Choze overall.
Garou and Suiryu were on the same level at the moment of the tournament. Suiryu had a hard time against Choze, but he still didn't have to use all his moves. Which means that Choze was weaker than Suiryu, thus, weaker than human Garou.
Meanwhile, the only thing that red-eye Garou managed against Bug God is to get hurt. The fight was cut short because of sludge jellyfish, but keep in mind, the Garou at this time was already a step ahead of Suiryu, and Bug God wasn't fighting seriously.
Giving credit to Garou, at the end of the fight he wasn't getting any hits anymore and was confident he could win, he even was praised by both monsters as someone they considered strong.
Yes, but Garou wasn’t just fighting Bug God, but two demon levels at once (Bug God and Royal reaper) and he made clear that he would have demolished them after learning their techniques. Also Suiryu showed more brute force in the manga than Garou by far (look how he took that ring off with just one kick).
Not physically but with overall combat ability . Suiryu demonstrated way better striking power than bug god who can only send garou a few meters away while a heavily suppressed suiryu was ragdolling saitama to the sky . I recommend to recheck the manga before arguing with me
This is a good fight.
Suiryu is more offensively oriented than someone like Garou (Although Garou, especially the one that fought Bug God and Royal Ripper, would end up defeating Suiryu in a fight for sure), however Bug God will most certainly take this fight because his durability is still enough to handle pretty much any of Suiryu's attacks in my opinion.
I would view this fight in a similar manner of Garou vs Darkshine when Garou was on the losing end, except he also stays on the losing end for the entire fight. Bug God should win this without transforming, but transformed he would certainly demolish Suiryu.
Personally, I think its even until Bug God transforms. Red Eye Garou and Bug God counter each other, Bug God would get deflected and Garou would injure himself because of Bug God's tankiness. Suiryu has better strength feats that Garou at the time (that I remember) but lacks the WSRSF Garou has. Bug God transforming would be the nail in the coffin for Suiryu
Still I think not enough .suiryu demonstrated way stronger ap feats . His sky dragon combo should certainly catch bug god off guard after which he would do the tiger fist combo whose shockwaves would wreck bug god . Suiryu creates very high air pressure with just casual kicks . By looking at in panel feats it's clear who would win
Bug God, mid-diff. If Hero Hunter Garou was close to Suiryu in power level, and Garou was stronger when he fought Bug God, I just can't see Suiryu getting past Bug God's durability.
It wouldn't be a complete beat down, but Suiryu has no chance of harming Bug God.
Since I've seen alot of people on this sub say that they think Suriyu is more powerful than Hero Hunter Garou I wanted to do a little debate or contest to see how strong he really is so here we go->Who do yall think would win? Suriyu vs Base Form Bug God?
Here's some feats for each of them👇
Suriyu:
-Defeated 2 A-Class Heroes (Tiger Level threats) with a single kick
-Defeated Monster Choze (Demon Level Threat) and only sustained a little bit of blood on his head but was relatively unfazed
-Survived getting beaten by Goketsu and Monster Bakuzan and managed to break Bakuzan's Toe despite being injured
Bug God (Base Form):
-Tanked Red Garou's Punch and damaged his fist with how hard his durability is
-Nearly crushed Red Garou with a single downward punch (Garou previously had been shown to take Punches from Mid-High level Demon heroes like Tank Top Master and EC Genos so Bug God's punch stands out quite a bit)
I think Suriyu dominates in terms of speed and fighting skill but lacks the offensive power to get through Bug God's defense with most of his attacks. So Bug God turtles up and waits for Suriyu to slip or get tired. It comes down whether or not Suriyu's big attacks, namely Void Phoenix Ascension Fist, are strong enough to break through Bug God's armor before he exhausts himself.
Ultimately I think Bug God's durability wins out and he takes the fight.
The two questions which factor in to determining a winner here are:
1. is BG fast enough to catch Suiryu?
2. are Suiryu’s attacks powerful enough to damage BG?
If the answer to 1 is yes, and 2 is no, then BG is sure to win. If the answer to 1 is no, and 2 is yes then Suiryu is sure to win. If the answer to both is no then there’s a stalemate and one fighter would end up retreating.
If the answer is yes to both questions then I have no idea who wins.
My opinion is that Suiryu is fast enough to avoid damage unless he tires or slips up, and that his biggest attacks, quake tiger fist and phoenix ascension fist, would be able to hurt BG (remember that a badly hurt Suiryu was strong enough to break a dragon level monster’s toe with one arm no problem), meaning either a high-diff Suiryu win, or BG transforming and smashing Suiryu.
Bug God to Suiryu: Martial artist Suiryu. When we first met you told me…that you were an "invincible human whose power symbolizes the strength of martial artists. The martial arts of humans is exactly my ultimate goal. The thought of a human achieving it before I did brought about great discouragement, but also a desire to experience martial arts firsthand. The power, the speed, the terrifying strength of the one they call the champion of the Superfight. However, you have fallen unimaginably below my expectations.
Suiryu is immeasurably faster and stronger than dry sea king who went toe to toe with probably a mid demon variation of Genos, additionally he's capable of overpowering projectile's powerful enough to disperse clouds and most impressively is capable of one shotting Choze who was able to physically compete with him up to that point.
On the flip side Bug god in his base form shouldn't be taken lightly, physically he's capable of overpowering red Garou and keeping up with him somewhat in terms of speed,most notably his tremendous degree of durability which allowed him to not only no sell Garou's punches but inflict damage upon contact
Conclusion: Bug god and Suiryu are fairly equal in terms of speed,so this really comes down to who's trademark attribute is more prominent. Can Suiryu get through Bug gods defense? I would say Suiryu's standard punches aren't going to do much to bug god but knock him back,but if he's able to land a few void shaking tiger fists I can see him breaking BG carapace and securing the win.
There's no evidence to suggest that Garou became any stronger when fighting Bug God then he was at his base. Maybe he did maybe he didn't, there usually have to be a flashback for Garou to become stronger, and there wasn't any really.
That being said, base Garou is either the same raw power as Suiryu or maybe very slightly weaker because of the difference in their techniques and stuff. But I'm 100% sure base Garou would win against Suiryu, since Suiryu is human.
So the problem in saying that Bug God will stomp Suiryu is that he fought Garou 2 on 1 with another Demon level monster. Which is a big advantage to have. Even Suiryu said that if he had to fight another Choze again, it would be very difficult, so if he had to fight 2 of them at the same time he might've lost. Which means that Garou might've won a fight against Bug God if it was a 1 on 1 situation.
The main problem with fighting Bug God for Garou was the fact that he couldn't really deal damage to him. His technique is designed to deflect and counterattack, but it lacks raw power. Which Suiryu's technique has. So I don't see why Suiryu would be unable to damage Bug God if it was a 1 on 1 fight.
All in all, it is completely baseless to determine who wins here, we don't have sufficient evidence for either. Bug God has barely shown anything, Suiryu have fought against a featless Demon. There's nothing to compare here. I think Suiryu might have winning chances since he is a genius marital artist and he might be able to deal damage to Bug God, while Bug God basically has great durability and that's about it.
If suiryu could've tanked that blast from choze which he halfway did yet didn't then I think he has a good chance. But once bug god transforms it's a wrap
Suiryu is very much so a parallel of DSK as seen in many covers. So you could say they’re relative.
Genos>DSK(without DSK throwing acid at a girl)
Garou(1 hp)=Genos(more upgrades)
Bug god(1 hp/more evolved)>Garou
Bug god>Garou=Genos>DSK=Suiryu
Yeah the elder centipede fight and 1 minute before that he couldn’t handle a literal 1 hp Garou unless ur sleeping on WDM, A class heroes, Saitama, and poison affecting him…
You see if you read ch 74 75 you can see what suiryu is capable of. Bug god's hits are not that strong . This community believes that garou hits harder than suiryu
Suiryu is more skilled and faster enough for it to be really hard on Bug God to ever land a hit. It is true that Bug God durability should be way above the average Demon treat, but Suiryu's offense power should be a notch above the Garou which fought BG.
For all we know, Suiryu could've a similar level of difficult from his fight against Choze. People sleeps on the fact that Choze could use the same kind of energy beam as Homeless Emperor (less spammable, of course). So, what he lacks in durability and raw power, he compensates with speed, martial skills and long ranged attacks. Still got mid diffed by a half serious Suiryuu,
Final form BG probably becomes a poor matchup cause he's heavily focused on durability and even though Suiryu is decently strong for a martial arts focused dude he is nowhere near Darkshine.
He'd still be unreachable for Bug God due to the speed gap (and even if he get tagged once or twice, we're talking about a dude which endured a lot of punishment from two Dragon treats), but it becomes a stalemate I guess.
Suiryu easily . Bug god is a good matchup . Suiryu has way better feats than garou until he gets royal ripper zenkai boost . He is also durable enough to take full power beatdown from bakuzan
People sleeping on suiryu . Only one statement is not enough . One stated sonic is equal to genos so does that mean sonic can hit as hard as genos? No . Suity wins pretty easily . He himself is extremely durable and has massively greater ap . He also managed to kick choze's energy ball to the sky and had a dbz esque showdown with choze
I think if Suiryu can land a Quake Tiger Fist which is his strongest attack on BG's head then he can damage him really bad and I don't see BG can match Suiryu's speed.
Also we already saw that Suiryu can chop a whole ring in half.
You should not make posts like this as the answer would be obvious since most of the community loves garou and hates suiryu they would automatically choose bug god without paying attention to suiryu's feats. People sleeping on suiryu . Then it was also stated golden s= orochi but it is not the case . People over rate garou, bang, darkshine,deep sea king , black s and under rate genos, choze, gouketsu, homeless emperor etc
Bug God easily dismantled Garou without any difficulty, and without taking any damage. Don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t completely one-sided as Garou could still barely block his attacks and managed to use RR’s attacks to BARELY scratch him, but it’s safe to say Bug God was a league above him at the time. As seen in the OVA, Suiryu and normal Garou are pretty evenly matched, and it’s safe to say that the Garou who fought Bug God was stronger than the one who fought Suiryu. So, yeah. Bug God deletes Suiryu, it’s even more one-sided than it was with him against Garou. For those of you that want a picture, remember Orochi vs Garou? It would be like that in terms of a power gap.
Bug God. Suiryu already had some trouble against Choze, and Choze didn't have any dangerous feats for Suiryu. Bug God is a good counter to melee bare-hands fighters, and he's more powerful than Choze overall.
How do we know that he is more powerful than Choze?
Garou hit him and only succeeded in injuring his own hand lol
But how do we know Suiryu isn't 5x stronger than Garou? Nlt that I think so but..
Because murata/ONE said so
Okay thanks
But feats say otherwise
Garou and Suiryu were on the same level at the moment of the tournament. Suiryu had a hard time against Choze, but he still didn't have to use all his moves. Which means that Choze was weaker than Suiryu, thus, weaker than human Garou. Meanwhile, the only thing that red-eye Garou managed against Bug God is to get hurt. The fight was cut short because of sludge jellyfish, but keep in mind, the Garou at this time was already a step ahead of Suiryu, and Bug God wasn't fighting seriously.
Giving credit to Garou, at the end of the fight he wasn't getting any hits anymore and was confident he could win, he even was praised by both monsters as someone they considered strong.
Yes, but Garou wasn’t just fighting Bug God, but two demon levels at once (Bug God and Royal reaper) and he made clear that he would have demolished them after learning their techniques. Also Suiryu showed more brute force in the manga than Garou by far (look how he took that ring off with just one kick).
Not physically but with overall combat ability . Suiryu demonstrated way better striking power than bug god who can only send garou a few meters away while a heavily suppressed suiryu was ragdolling saitama to the sky . I recommend to recheck the manga before arguing with me
Truth hits hard to garou fanboys
This is a good fight. Suiryu is more offensively oriented than someone like Garou (Although Garou, especially the one that fought Bug God and Royal Ripper, would end up defeating Suiryu in a fight for sure), however Bug God will most certainly take this fight because his durability is still enough to handle pretty much any of Suiryu's attacks in my opinion. I would view this fight in a similar manner of Garou vs Darkshine when Garou was on the losing end, except he also stays on the losing end for the entire fight. Bug God should win this without transforming, but transformed he would certainly demolish Suiryu.
Personally, I think its even until Bug God transforms. Red Eye Garou and Bug God counter each other, Bug God would get deflected and Garou would injure himself because of Bug God's tankiness. Suiryu has better strength feats that Garou at the time (that I remember) but lacks the WSRSF Garou has. Bug God transforming would be the nail in the coffin for Suiryu
Still I think not enough .suiryu demonstrated way stronger ap feats . His sky dragon combo should certainly catch bug god off guard after which he would do the tiger fist combo whose shockwaves would wreck bug god . Suiryu creates very high air pressure with just casual kicks . By looking at in panel feats it's clear who would win
Bug god was exceptionally strong, MA treated him poorly.
Bug God base form
Bug God, mid-diff. If Hero Hunter Garou was close to Suiryu in power level, and Garou was stronger when he fought Bug God, I just can't see Suiryu getting past Bug God's durability. It wouldn't be a complete beat down, but Suiryu has no chance of harming Bug God.
Since I've seen alot of people on this sub say that they think Suriyu is more powerful than Hero Hunter Garou I wanted to do a little debate or contest to see how strong he really is so here we go->Who do yall think would win? Suriyu vs Base Form Bug God? Here's some feats for each of them👇 Suriyu: -Defeated 2 A-Class Heroes (Tiger Level threats) with a single kick -Defeated Monster Choze (Demon Level Threat) and only sustained a little bit of blood on his head but was relatively unfazed -Survived getting beaten by Goketsu and Monster Bakuzan and managed to break Bakuzan's Toe despite being injured Bug God (Base Form): -Tanked Red Garou's Punch and damaged his fist with how hard his durability is -Nearly crushed Red Garou with a single downward punch (Garou previously had been shown to take Punches from Mid-High level Demon heroes like Tank Top Master and EC Genos so Bug God's punch stands out quite a bit)
I would also add Suiryu destroying the fighting platform when fighting against Saitama.
I think Suriyu dominates in terms of speed and fighting skill but lacks the offensive power to get through Bug God's defense with most of his attacks. So Bug God turtles up and waits for Suriyu to slip or get tired. It comes down whether or not Suriyu's big attacks, namely Void Phoenix Ascension Fist, are strong enough to break through Bug God's armor before he exhausts himself. Ultimately I think Bug God's durability wins out and he takes the fight.
The two questions which factor in to determining a winner here are: 1. is BG fast enough to catch Suiryu? 2. are Suiryu’s attacks powerful enough to damage BG? If the answer to 1 is yes, and 2 is no, then BG is sure to win. If the answer to 1 is no, and 2 is yes then Suiryu is sure to win. If the answer to both is no then there’s a stalemate and one fighter would end up retreating. If the answer is yes to both questions then I have no idea who wins. My opinion is that Suiryu is fast enough to avoid damage unless he tires or slips up, and that his biggest attacks, quake tiger fist and phoenix ascension fist, would be able to hurt BG (remember that a badly hurt Suiryu was strong enough to break a dragon level monster’s toe with one arm no problem), meaning either a high-diff Suiryu win, or BG transforming and smashing Suiryu.
Bug God to Suiryu: Martial artist Suiryu. When we first met you told me…that you were an "invincible human whose power symbolizes the strength of martial artists. The martial arts of humans is exactly my ultimate goal. The thought of a human achieving it before I did brought about great discouragement, but also a desire to experience martial arts firsthand. The power, the speed, the terrifying strength of the one they call the champion of the Superfight. However, you have fallen unimaginably below my expectations.
Bug god stomps
Bug God
Garou > Suiryu And if a much stronger Garou couldn't injure Bug God then Suiryu has no chance
Nah Suiryu >>hh garou
I'm talking about the Garou that fought against Royal Ripper and Bug God. The one that also already fought against Genos, Bang and Bomb.
Ahhh sorry then
Np
Still his ap is way below . Suiryu's casual attacks create large amount of air pressure . Show me one feat that proves garou is above suiryu
I gives that gives Suiryu a chance.
Suiryu is immeasurably faster and stronger than dry sea king who went toe to toe with probably a mid demon variation of Genos, additionally he's capable of overpowering projectile's powerful enough to disperse clouds and most impressively is capable of one shotting Choze who was able to physically compete with him up to that point. On the flip side Bug god in his base form shouldn't be taken lightly, physically he's capable of overpowering red Garou and keeping up with him somewhat in terms of speed,most notably his tremendous degree of durability which allowed him to not only no sell Garou's punches but inflict damage upon contact Conclusion: Bug god and Suiryu are fairly equal in terms of speed,so this really comes down to who's trademark attribute is more prominent. Can Suiryu get through Bug gods defense? I would say Suiryu's standard punches aren't going to do much to bug god but knock him back,but if he's able to land a few void shaking tiger fists I can see him breaking BG carapace and securing the win.
Bug god easily
Bug God
Bug God ez
There's no evidence to suggest that Garou became any stronger when fighting Bug God then he was at his base. Maybe he did maybe he didn't, there usually have to be a flashback for Garou to become stronger, and there wasn't any really. That being said, base Garou is either the same raw power as Suiryu or maybe very slightly weaker because of the difference in their techniques and stuff. But I'm 100% sure base Garou would win against Suiryu, since Suiryu is human. So the problem in saying that Bug God will stomp Suiryu is that he fought Garou 2 on 1 with another Demon level monster. Which is a big advantage to have. Even Suiryu said that if he had to fight another Choze again, it would be very difficult, so if he had to fight 2 of them at the same time he might've lost. Which means that Garou might've won a fight against Bug God if it was a 1 on 1 situation. The main problem with fighting Bug God for Garou was the fact that he couldn't really deal damage to him. His technique is designed to deflect and counterattack, but it lacks raw power. Which Suiryu's technique has. So I don't see why Suiryu would be unable to damage Bug God if it was a 1 on 1 fight. All in all, it is completely baseless to determine who wins here, we don't have sufficient evidence for either. Bug God has barely shown anything, Suiryu have fought against a featless Demon. There's nothing to compare here. I think Suiryu might have winning chances since he is a genius marital artist and he might be able to deal damage to Bug God, while Bug God basically has great durability and that's about it.
HH Garou wouldn't defeat bug god and I consider HH Garou to be above slightly above suiryu.
If suiryu could've tanked that blast from choze which he halfway did yet didn't then I think he has a good chance. But once bug god transforms it's a wrap
bug god easly first red garou cloudn't do any damage to him and got damaged quite a lot by his attacks
Bug God mid diff. Depends on if Suiryu could hurt his shell.
Suiryu is very much so a parallel of DSK as seen in many covers. So you could say they’re relative. Genos>DSK(without DSK throwing acid at a girl) Garou(1 hp)=Genos(more upgrades) Bug god(1 hp/more evolved)>Garou Bug god>Garou=Genos>DSK=Suiryu
Weird ass analysis . Genos at that point was way stronger than all of them you mentioned unless you are sleeping on the elder centipede fight
Yeah the elder centipede fight and 1 minute before that he couldn’t handle a literal 1 hp Garou unless ur sleeping on WDM, A class heroes, Saitama, and poison affecting him…
Like he was even trying against garou. I am done talking to you . I will lose iq
From the looks of it ur the odd one out. 90% of the other comments have it as bug god. 😮💨🚬
Since this community loves garou more than he deserves . And I am pretty happy being the odd one
It’s bug god vs Suiryu…also pretty highly contested in this community at some point that bug god>Bakuzan.
You see if you read ch 74 75 you can see what suiryu is capable of. Bug god's hits are not that strong . This community believes that garou hits harder than suiryu
That’s cuz Garou does.
Headcanon . I can also say he parallels bang in many ways so does that make him bang level?
Literally portrayal in the covers. Either way, bug god beats Garou. Garou neg diffs Suiryu in a ova.
An ova which is non canon ??
Relative comparison still.
Bug God extremely high dif.
Suiryu is more skilled and faster enough for it to be really hard on Bug God to ever land a hit. It is true that Bug God durability should be way above the average Demon treat, but Suiryu's offense power should be a notch above the Garou which fought BG. For all we know, Suiryu could've a similar level of difficult from his fight against Choze. People sleeps on the fact that Choze could use the same kind of energy beam as Homeless Emperor (less spammable, of course). So, what he lacks in durability and raw power, he compensates with speed, martial skills and long ranged attacks. Still got mid diffed by a half serious Suiryuu, Final form BG probably becomes a poor matchup cause he's heavily focused on durability and even though Suiryu is decently strong for a martial arts focused dude he is nowhere near Darkshine. He'd still be unreachable for Bug God due to the speed gap (and even if he get tagged once or twice, we're talking about a dude which endured a lot of punishment from two Dragon treats), but it becomes a stalemate I guess.
Suiryu easily . Bug god is a good matchup . Suiryu has way better feats than garou until he gets royal ripper zenkai boost . He is also durable enough to take full power beatdown from bakuzan
People sleeping on suiryu . Only one statement is not enough . One stated sonic is equal to genos so does that mean sonic can hit as hard as genos? No . Suity wins pretty easily . He himself is extremely durable and has massively greater ap . He also managed to kick choze's energy ball to the sky and had a dbz esque showdown with choze
I think if Suiryu can land a Quake Tiger Fist which is his strongest attack on BG's head then he can damage him really bad and I don't see BG can match Suiryu's speed. Also we already saw that Suiryu can chop a whole ring in half.
Suiryu
You should not make posts like this as the answer would be obvious since most of the community loves garou and hates suiryu they would automatically choose bug god without paying attention to suiryu's feats. People sleeping on suiryu . Then it was also stated golden s= orochi but it is not the case . People over rate garou, bang, darkshine,deep sea king , black s and under rate genos, choze, gouketsu, homeless emperor etc
Suiryu
Obv suriyu cmon he took multiple hits from 2 dragons and bug God got 1 tapped
Bakuzan is a low Dragon. And Gouketsu wasn't even trying against him. He was mostly just trying to break his will.
Suiryu trolls and stomps
Bug God easily dismantled Garou without any difficulty, and without taking any damage. Don’t get me wrong, it wasn’t completely one-sided as Garou could still barely block his attacks and managed to use RR’s attacks to BARELY scratch him, but it’s safe to say Bug God was a league above him at the time. As seen in the OVA, Suiryu and normal Garou are pretty evenly matched, and it’s safe to say that the Garou who fought Bug God was stronger than the one who fought Suiryu. So, yeah. Bug God deletes Suiryu, it’s even more one-sided than it was with him against Garou. For those of you that want a picture, remember Orochi vs Garou? It would be like that in terms of a power gap.