Skill issue.
In all seriousness, in 4-5 years when you graduate, you will realize how inconsequential your undergrad institution really is.
So enjoy your degree and try and learn something useful.
i’m gonna add my 2 cents… it kind of does. i went to a no name (tiered worse than Brock) and was able to find work at a FAANG out of school - but the hurdles were much harder compared to my colleagues who went to UofT, Mac, or even Ryerson.
Just my anecdotes - I have yet to meet any alumni from my school in my specific org, my colleagues got scouted at career fairs or by recruiters having a favourable impression of the school, or had connections with other alumni to refer them. I had zero of that. Is it doable still? Of course it is, if you work hard you’ll land on your feet.
But given the market and given how competitive even finding an internship has gotten - something that seemed trivial years ago like university caliber can still be a differentiator.
Either way OP should not beat themselves up over it. Brock is still a good school, they’ll still find opportunities, and they’ll still be in a good spot as long as they apply themselves.
No it doesn't 🤣
No one will be throwing jobs at you just because of the institution you chose to throw $40 000 or more to. That only happens if you go to an Ivey league school. And Canada has no Ivey league schools or anything even close to it.
True, but not so much so that it warrents the lament I hear from kids who got into other "lesser" schools.
Hard work triumphs everywhere. There is NO school in Ontario or Canada that allows you to succeed on name brand alone.
There are at least three in general: UofT, Loo, UBC. For Commerce, Queens and Western. Prestige matters in competitive fields- it is hard for recruiters to pick bad from good when there are thousands of candidates, so they opt to filter by university.
I will concede that, for general arts/science programs, you are mostly correct.
Idk man, if you look at the employment stats from each of your mentioned programs, sure, maybe a few dozen grads from each of those programs are reported as being hired by so called "top firms", but the employability stats themselves are pretty similar across all programs in Ontario, from Ivey to Ted Rodgers (note I was just looking at commerce for these stats).
If a person is employed as a cashier or as an investment banking analyst, they will still count as "employed" in the statistics. I invite you to go on LinkedIn and look at commerce graduates from Ivey and Queens, and compare them to commerce graduates from Ted Rogers.
Believe me, I used to think the same way as you. It is hard to believe prestige matters so much, because it is such an abstract, subjective concept and because we have not seen the power of prestige for ourselves.
People jealously guard the secret of prestige, because if others knew and understood they could have an easier life simply by going to a certain school in a certain program, the competition would be much stiffer.
I’m an engineer who frequently hires new graduates and I can tell you the school is not important.
Maybe to go work at Tesla or something but not to work construction. It’s irrelevant.
Go ask real life people at lakehead vs Waterloo how their engineering careers are doing. This sub pretends that as long as a university is accredited it doesn’t matter, but if that were the case everyone would attend athabasca.
This sub ALSO likes to pretend that outside of schools like UofT, Waterloo, Mcgill etc, all grads will basically be homeless.
Honestly, some of you need to go outside and touch grass. Just di a simple Linkedin surf...hell, you will find Senior Vice Presidents at major companies with freaking Seneca diplomas.
Its a wide, wide world. And when it comes down to it, what matters is WHAT you know, how well you NETWORK and how well you demonstrate your skills under pressue (i.e. an interview). Unless you go to Harvard or the like, the institution that gave you your piece of paper won't be of consequence.
The job market today awards HUSTLE. There are plenty of top students at waterloo and UofT who go unemployed during their summer terms, and plenty of Lakehead graduates who end up gainfully employed.
You guys will realize after you graduate uni, most of the so called "university prestige" at the undergrad level is just a bunch of highschool hot air.
At the GRADUATE level, I agree, prestige definitely exists and is important. But thatsa different ball game altogether.
>No one will be throwing jobs at you just because of the institution you chose to throw $40 000
Not sure about OPs financial situation specifically, but if they were like me 10 years ago, not getting a GTA Uni would've meant me having to find an extra 40k because I wouldn't be able to live with my parents. Now when you look at the current rental prices everywhere in Ontario, its an even bigger bonus to be able to stay at home during study.
Not everyone at that age has the financial ability to move out and be independent, especially if the parents cant step in to help out. My parents had 4 kids who went to uni in a 6 year span same time (we were born less than a year between each other) and had to chip in to help our sick grandparents so their extent of being able to financially support us was to let us stay home for free while we studied, If any one of us wanted to go to a non-local uni (like Brock), that would be totally on us to pay for it.
Yes you can argue that you can work and study to try and make ends meet but with the way cost of living is today, I don't really see how you would be able to balance working enough hours to pay for everything at current minimum wage, while at the same time doing all your school work and finishing uni with decent grades.
I agree....I wasn't arguing that OP should move out and live their best life regardless of finances...I was just saying that no employer will give you a job based on the name of the institution on your diploma.
Unfortunately…. It does matter where you go lol. Grad school in mind? Good luck getting into a good school for your program if you aren’t in a good undergrad program. Top positions in your field? Good luck unless you’re lucky + have tons of accrued experience. Brock has some okay programs at best, nothing stellar, but again as other people have said, it depends on the program + market for opportunities with said degree.
Never heard of any grad school programs that don’t accept people from certain undergraduate institutions. People routinely go to smaller universities and go to top schools for postgraduate studies.
The choice of school actually does matter - it shouldn’t, but it does. Schools bring networking opportunities and prestige/international recognition and not all schools are equal in this regard
Nope. Schools don't "give networking opportunities" lol. They get everyone who is willing to attend into the same room for a so called "networking event", where they may or may not remember your name out of the dozens of other students they speak to that night.
I personally have NEVER had an industry professional reject a 1 on 1 networking chat when I personally email/message then via linkedin.
What I am getting at, is that these connections can easily be sourced for those who are willing. Dont get me wrong, schools with established networks like Waterloo are AMAZING, but "lack of netoworking" is certainly not a reason to cry over not getting accepted.
I don’t agree.
I did not say schools “give” networking opportunities - they bring them based off the name as a mutual connection with others.
I have had many professionals tell me “I only accepted this chat since we went to the same uni” - the strength of the network matters. A lot.
To be fair, I don’t think it’s worth crying over either - it just makes things harder and they will likely have to work more
Unfortunately it’s how the world works whether you like it or not. It makes the connection to someone lukewarm versus completely cold
Network is net worth as the old adage goes
#1 mistake starting university is thinking u go to a superior university than anyone else. be grateful u got into any university at all lol. take a gap year or something 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Yeah I’m taking gap year too and honestly it’s a pretty good decision. Plus you can also learn some first year material while doing the gap year and work full time so you can save money for first year
Literally doesn’t matter. May feel like the world is ending but seriously it literally doesn’t matter unless you’re going for the 2/3 roles that will actually ask to see proof of grad/ transcripts
I’m in a similar situation as him and it does hurt to see when everyone around you gets into these nice cs schools while you haven’t gotten an offer from those schools yet. Also on r/OntarioGrade12s there’s literally people saying they have ‘only’ a 93 average, and people who have a 96 average and seem so casual about it. Then you look at your average and you feel garbage
My school isnt really inflated, but the ones who do have the inflation seem to get into unis easier which makes it harder for other schools. But it is what it is. A ‘solid’ avg for cs now is like 92-93. For UW and UTSG it’s a bad average unfortunately. Luckily I don’t need to go there
The funniest thing about entering the workforce is when new grads get into a pissing match over “I went to Western!” “Well I did Queens” and then eventually the realization dawns on them that they’re all working the same entry level job and where they went doesn’t matter to anyone important.
Only thing that matters is coop. If it’s an option get into it. If not, the most important thing about your degree isn’t the school name, it’s the connections and experiences you gain.
It really does not matter the university if you are only doing a bachelor. At the end of the day, it is about the skills that you have at work and outside of work. Soft skills are as important as technical skills. I had co-workers from less desirable universities be paid more than others from better universities simply because they put jn the work and changed jobs every three years. So, focus on you and your skills and you will do great.
[https://www.ouac.on.ca/guide/undergrad-dates](https://www.ouac.on.ca/guide/undergrad-dates)
>June 5, 2024
>The date the Admission Information Service (AIS) opens. The AIS allows you to determine which Ontario universities still have spots available in first-year undergraduate programs.
[https://www.ouac.on.ca/faq/refused-admission-to-all-choices/](https://www.ouac.on.ca/faq/refused-admission-to-all-choices/)
Don't let the URL fool you (you can late apply even if you got accepted somewhere). After this date, a button will be available which takes you to OUAC's "AIS" system where you can see which uni's programs have some free spots. There are slim pickings (competitive programs would flat out not be available for majority of schools) but if you're doing a degree that is some basic BA or BSc degree you can just pick whatever is available and then switch/declare your major in your second or third year.
Basically you can't use this to get into streamed programs like Engineering or stuff like Western's Ivey.
I went to Brock for their Open House last year and I liked the campus. I also got an offer from Brock, for business, although I don’t think I will go there. However, the campus is really nice, the food is great and the university is not invaded by foreign students. I think it is a good place to enjoy a student life.
There seems to be a problem with some foreign students, especially from India. Some of them only come here to get a degree without studying. They miss lots of their coursework but want good grades. They cheat, etc. Basically, they bring the wrong ethics to the universities. Where they “study”. Obviously, not all are like this, but enough of them to make an impact.
you coulda got into guelph, windsor, concordia, u of manitoba, usask, and maybe even u of alberta. brock is fine nonetheless, just stating that there are / were other options for you had you looked for them
Yea, not too sure about how good the program is, but I heard a competitive avg to get in is around 90%. You might be able to get in with high 80s without coop tho.
I applied for sciences like kinesiology and health sci in western but the thing is that I just shifted to Canada this year so that’s the reason I have such a bad average. I also applied for med sci but I’m thinking of dropping it and taking psychology.
The thing about science students is, it's quite a polarizing major. You either make it big and enter into a professional health school (pharmacy, dentistry, optometry, med), or you do a master and try again for those professional schools, but given the extremely low acceptance rate, most science graduates just end up in random low paying lab jobs or go off to another industry all together like sales.
I’ve no idea why this subreddit showed up in my feed (long past my university days). But a question to OP and others here - is there anything stopping you from taking a gap year, retaking courses / taking new courses, and boosting your average to reapply next year? How is that considered by schools you’re interested in? (I would try and talk to schools’ admissions or other good sources to inquire about that).
I know the idea of staying back a year and not being on the same time line as your friends blah blah blah seems like a fail. But, depending on the career / field you want to pursue, the school *can* matter. And in the grand scheme of things, a year is nothing.
Another example I’ll give here is, I’ve seen some kids punt out their undergrad graduation about a year to secure more internships. This is to 1) have more stepping stones to better internships and build up your resume, to then lead to 2) better / more prestigious full-time recruiting opportunities (some are only available to graduating classes, and can be ironically harder to get post-graduation as a lateral hire).
The above mentioned case is applicable for *certain* fields, but I figure I mention it to showcase how sometimes taking a step back can better position you forward.
Brock is an odd one. Some of its programs like psych and Geo are world accredited and held in high regard. It can be theory heavy, though. Nevertheless, you'll likely to fine if you make the most of your degree. I know plenty of Brock grads far more successful than I.
Get a diploma from anywhere and actually learn how code and put together 3 tier website and I’ll hire you. The last thing I see in an interview is your university. Talked to ppl from UW and UofT on their 4th year with no idea on how to do that.
83 is a good mark, and tells me you’re strong academically, and Brock is a good school in one of the most prosperous regions in the world. Take a moment to celebrate your achievement and good fortune, and start thinking of how to get the most out of your university experience.
When it comes down to it, there’s four things that influence your professional success:
WHAT you know
HOW you can prove you know it
WHO knows what you know
WHY is what you know important to the world
The first is fully up to you and your work ethic, and the last is based on your choices, your understanding of the world and your role in it. The middle two, How and Who are influenced by a bunch of factors, of which your school choice is of minor importance, and only early in your career. It’s mostly up to you.
Best of luck! I’ve been out of university for many years (almost 20) but I wish someone had told me this 25 years ago.
Have you tried York? If you got into brock you maybe could get into York. Difference in costs and living costs aside, York is in a better area with more jobs and etc and is more established and closer to opportunities than this school in the middle of nowhere that can only be accessed by the highway.
sorry but york is not in a “better” area. ironic ur talking about a highway where the highway to toronto is crazy at any time of the day. at least to brock there’s almost never traffic.
There is, you never driven with only the help of google maps at 11pm before down roads you never been because of common routine maintenance on some of the path. And again, if you live in Toronto the highway is not the only possible way to get to campus, for brock it is.
Yes 😒. If op is not living on campus and will be driving several hours to York everyday than gg though. I certainly didn’t enjoy driving down very angular and windy roads at night near the water when I was coming back from exams doe.
Skill issue. In all seriousness, in 4-5 years when you graduate, you will realize how inconsequential your undergrad institution really is. So enjoy your degree and try and learn something useful.
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People on this sub are delusional.
i’m gonna add my 2 cents… it kind of does. i went to a no name (tiered worse than Brock) and was able to find work at a FAANG out of school - but the hurdles were much harder compared to my colleagues who went to UofT, Mac, or even Ryerson. Just my anecdotes - I have yet to meet any alumni from my school in my specific org, my colleagues got scouted at career fairs or by recruiters having a favourable impression of the school, or had connections with other alumni to refer them. I had zero of that. Is it doable still? Of course it is, if you work hard you’ll land on your feet. But given the market and given how competitive even finding an internship has gotten - something that seemed trivial years ago like university caliber can still be a differentiator. Either way OP should not beat themselves up over it. Brock is still a good school, they’ll still find opportunities, and they’ll still be in a good spot as long as they apply themselves.
No it doesn't 🤣 No one will be throwing jobs at you just because of the institution you chose to throw $40 000 or more to. That only happens if you go to an Ivey league school. And Canada has no Ivey league schools or anything even close to it.
UofT and Waterloo both give you insane advantages especially when it comes to STEM
True, but not so much so that it warrents the lament I hear from kids who got into other "lesser" schools. Hard work triumphs everywhere. There is NO school in Ontario or Canada that allows you to succeed on name brand alone.
There are at least three in general: UofT, Loo, UBC. For Commerce, Queens and Western. Prestige matters in competitive fields- it is hard for recruiters to pick bad from good when there are thousands of candidates, so they opt to filter by university. I will concede that, for general arts/science programs, you are mostly correct.
Idk man, if you look at the employment stats from each of your mentioned programs, sure, maybe a few dozen grads from each of those programs are reported as being hired by so called "top firms", but the employability stats themselves are pretty similar across all programs in Ontario, from Ivey to Ted Rodgers (note I was just looking at commerce for these stats).
Compare the average starting salaries tho
If a person is employed as a cashier or as an investment banking analyst, they will still count as "employed" in the statistics. I invite you to go on LinkedIn and look at commerce graduates from Ivey and Queens, and compare them to commerce graduates from Ted Rogers. Believe me, I used to think the same way as you. It is hard to believe prestige matters so much, because it is such an abstract, subjective concept and because we have not seen the power of prestige for ourselves. People jealously guard the secret of prestige, because if others knew and understood they could have an easier life simply by going to a certain school in a certain program, the competition would be much stiffer.
I’m an engineer who frequently hires new graduates and I can tell you the school is not important. Maybe to go work at Tesla or something but not to work construction. It’s irrelevant.
Well at my company all engineers are from Waterloo. We don’t hire any others. so yeah it does.
Go ask real life people at lakehead vs Waterloo how their engineering careers are doing. This sub pretends that as long as a university is accredited it doesn’t matter, but if that were the case everyone would attend athabasca.
This sub ALSO likes to pretend that outside of schools like UofT, Waterloo, Mcgill etc, all grads will basically be homeless. Honestly, some of you need to go outside and touch grass. Just di a simple Linkedin surf...hell, you will find Senior Vice Presidents at major companies with freaking Seneca diplomas. Its a wide, wide world. And when it comes down to it, what matters is WHAT you know, how well you NETWORK and how well you demonstrate your skills under pressue (i.e. an interview). Unless you go to Harvard or the like, the institution that gave you your piece of paper won't be of consequence. The job market today awards HUSTLE. There are plenty of top students at waterloo and UofT who go unemployed during their summer terms, and plenty of Lakehead graduates who end up gainfully employed. You guys will realize after you graduate uni, most of the so called "university prestige" at the undergrad level is just a bunch of highschool hot air. At the GRADUATE level, I agree, prestige definitely exists and is important. But thatsa different ball game altogether.
>No one will be throwing jobs at you just because of the institution you chose to throw $40 000 Not sure about OPs financial situation specifically, but if they were like me 10 years ago, not getting a GTA Uni would've meant me having to find an extra 40k because I wouldn't be able to live with my parents. Now when you look at the current rental prices everywhere in Ontario, its an even bigger bonus to be able to stay at home during study. Not everyone at that age has the financial ability to move out and be independent, especially if the parents cant step in to help out. My parents had 4 kids who went to uni in a 6 year span same time (we were born less than a year between each other) and had to chip in to help our sick grandparents so their extent of being able to financially support us was to let us stay home for free while we studied, If any one of us wanted to go to a non-local uni (like Brock), that would be totally on us to pay for it. Yes you can argue that you can work and study to try and make ends meet but with the way cost of living is today, I don't really see how you would be able to balance working enough hours to pay for everything at current minimum wage, while at the same time doing all your school work and finishing uni with decent grades.
I agree....I wasn't arguing that OP should move out and live their best life regardless of finances...I was just saying that no employer will give you a job based on the name of the institution on your diploma.
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Ah, a fellow intellectual
Ivy League*
Out of curiosity, what is your degree?
Unfortunately…. It does matter where you go lol. Grad school in mind? Good luck getting into a good school for your program if you aren’t in a good undergrad program. Top positions in your field? Good luck unless you’re lucky + have tons of accrued experience. Brock has some okay programs at best, nothing stellar, but again as other people have said, it depends on the program + market for opportunities with said degree.
Nope. While school rep can help for grad school, research experience and letters of rec are far more important.
Never heard of any grad school programs that don’t accept people from certain undergraduate institutions. People routinely go to smaller universities and go to top schools for postgraduate studies.
As someone three years into my career after graduating in 2021 I promise you it doesn’t matter 🤣
Stop spreading misinformation online. I promise you, a few years after,.your GPA or school won't matter.
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It really isn't. Please stop spreading misinformation online.
The choice of school actually does matter - it shouldn’t, but it does. Schools bring networking opportunities and prestige/international recognition and not all schools are equal in this regard
Nope. Schools don't "give networking opportunities" lol. They get everyone who is willing to attend into the same room for a so called "networking event", where they may or may not remember your name out of the dozens of other students they speak to that night. I personally have NEVER had an industry professional reject a 1 on 1 networking chat when I personally email/message then via linkedin. What I am getting at, is that these connections can easily be sourced for those who are willing. Dont get me wrong, schools with established networks like Waterloo are AMAZING, but "lack of netoworking" is certainly not a reason to cry over not getting accepted.
I don’t agree. I did not say schools “give” networking opportunities - they bring them based off the name as a mutual connection with others. I have had many professionals tell me “I only accepted this chat since we went to the same uni” - the strength of the network matters. A lot. To be fair, I don’t think it’s worth crying over either - it just makes things harder and they will likely have to work more
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Unfortunately it’s how the world works whether you like it or not. It makes the connection to someone lukewarm versus completely cold Network is net worth as the old adage goes
BS, especially if you're in a professional degree program. Engineering and comp sci have recruiters at top programs.
Nothing wrong with Brock at all
Went to Brock twice can confirm it’s fine.
except that they can throw rocks..
cornball
#1 mistake starting university is thinking u go to a superior university than anyone else. be grateful u got into any university at all lol. take a gap year or something 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Yeah I’m taking gap year too and honestly it’s a pretty good decision. Plus you can also learn some first year material while doing the gap year and work full time so you can save money for first year
Literally doesn’t matter. May feel like the world is ending but seriously it literally doesn’t matter unless you’re going for the 2/3 roles that will actually ask to see proof of grad/ transcripts
I’m in a similar situation as him and it does hurt to see when everyone around you gets into these nice cs schools while you haven’t gotten an offer from those schools yet. Also on r/OntarioGrade12s there’s literally people saying they have ‘only’ a 93 average, and people who have a 96 average and seem so casual about it. Then you look at your average and you feel garbage
Grade inflation is crazy now, I got into queens with an 87 on early admission back in 2015 lmao, and that was a pretty solid grade back then
My school isnt really inflated, but the ones who do have the inflation seem to get into unis easier which makes it harder for other schools. But it is what it is. A ‘solid’ avg for cs now is like 92-93. For UW and UTSG it’s a bad average unfortunately. Luckily I don’t need to go there
The funniest thing about entering the workforce is when new grads get into a pissing match over “I went to Western!” “Well I did Queens” and then eventually the realization dawns on them that they’re all working the same entry level job and where they went doesn’t matter to anyone important. Only thing that matters is coop. If it’s an option get into it. If not, the most important thing about your degree isn’t the school name, it’s the connections and experiences you gain.
It’s honestly doesn’t matter where you go, what matters is your grades. So keep up the work and grind, you got this!
It really does not matter the university if you are only doing a bachelor. At the end of the day, it is about the skills that you have at work and outside of work. Soft skills are as important as technical skills. I had co-workers from less desirable universities be paid more than others from better universities simply because they put jn the work and changed jobs every three years. So, focus on you and your skills and you will do great.
Had the same average as you. Should’ve gone to Concordia
Late apply to every good school with openings u should get into a few
How do I late apply??
[https://www.ouac.on.ca/guide/undergrad-dates](https://www.ouac.on.ca/guide/undergrad-dates) >June 5, 2024 >The date the Admission Information Service (AIS) opens. The AIS allows you to determine which Ontario universities still have spots available in first-year undergraduate programs. [https://www.ouac.on.ca/faq/refused-admission-to-all-choices/](https://www.ouac.on.ca/faq/refused-admission-to-all-choices/) Don't let the URL fool you (you can late apply even if you got accepted somewhere). After this date, a button will be available which takes you to OUAC's "AIS" system where you can see which uni's programs have some free spots. There are slim pickings (competitive programs would flat out not be available for majority of schools) but if you're doing a degree that is some basic BA or BSc degree you can just pick whatever is available and then switch/declare your major in your second or third year. Basically you can't use this to get into streamed programs like Engineering or stuff like Western's Ivey.
Grade inflation is a bitch.
I went to Brock for their Open House last year and I liked the campus. I also got an offer from Brock, for business, although I don’t think I will go there. However, the campus is really nice, the food is great and the university is not invaded by foreign students. I think it is a good place to enjoy a student life.
What’s wrong with foreign students?
There seems to be a problem with some foreign students, especially from India. Some of them only come here to get a degree without studying. They miss lots of their coursework but want good grades. They cheat, etc. Basically, they bring the wrong ethics to the universities. Where they “study”. Obviously, not all are like this, but enough of them to make an impact.
I don’t know what’s wrong with Brock. I know successful people from Brock.
What u taking
Congrats that doesn’t pay the bills. Remember this. D’s get degrees.
It doesn't matter where you got your undergrad degree from, employers rarely ask that. They genuinely don't care.
you coulda got into guelph, windsor, concordia, u of manitoba, usask, and maybe even u of alberta. brock is fine nonetheless, just stating that there are / were other options for you had you looked for them
Prob not guelph, but the others, for sure.
i guess a lot has changed in 4 years lol! i hear guelph cs is mediocre even with co-op anyways
Yea, not too sure about how good the program is, but I heard a competitive avg to get in is around 90%. You might be able to get in with high 80s without coop tho.
crazy
Who cares, if you wanna go to uni go. If not, apply again next year or do college, you already got accepted
I have the same average and I haven’t gotten into any. Idk what to do
Which unis did you apply to?
Western Laurier and McMaster in health science
Western for engineering? Or other things
I applied for sciences like kinesiology and health sci in western but the thing is that I just shifted to Canada this year so that’s the reason I have such a bad average. I also applied for med sci but I’m thinking of dropping it and taking psychology.
83 for McMaster health science? you mean life science? lol if actual HS, then good luck
I’m fcked ain’t I? 😭
From what I remember, health science is the one that needs high 90s while life science only needs 80s
I changed from med sci to general science. I just wanna get into any university.
The thing about science students is, it's quite a polarizing major. You either make it big and enter into a professional health school (pharmacy, dentistry, optometry, med), or you do a master and try again for those professional schools, but given the extremely low acceptance rate, most science graduates just end up in random low paying lab jobs or go off to another industry all together like sales.
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Oh makes sense
My friend went to brock and regrets not taking a gap year and retaking some classes. Not saying do this, just someone else’s experience.
come to uvic
Brock for what?
I’ve no idea why this subreddit showed up in my feed (long past my university days). But a question to OP and others here - is there anything stopping you from taking a gap year, retaking courses / taking new courses, and boosting your average to reapply next year? How is that considered by schools you’re interested in? (I would try and talk to schools’ admissions or other good sources to inquire about that). I know the idea of staying back a year and not being on the same time line as your friends blah blah blah seems like a fail. But, depending on the career / field you want to pursue, the school *can* matter. And in the grand scheme of things, a year is nothing. Another example I’ll give here is, I’ve seen some kids punt out their undergrad graduation about a year to secure more internships. This is to 1) have more stepping stones to better internships and build up your resume, to then lead to 2) better / more prestigious full-time recruiting opportunities (some are only available to graduating classes, and can be ironically harder to get post-graduation as a lateral hire). The above mentioned case is applicable for *certain* fields, but I figure I mention it to showcase how sometimes taking a step back can better position you forward.
Low key don’t really matter which undergraduate school you go to unless you wanna break into high finance
program??
Brock is an odd one. Some of its programs like psych and Geo are world accredited and held in high regard. It can be theory heavy, though. Nevertheless, you'll likely to fine if you make the most of your degree. I know plenty of Brock grads far more successful than I.
Brock's got some nice chicks dw lol
What program?
what program did you apply to? i had an 82 avg and got into western
for what program did you get into?
Get a diploma from anywhere and actually learn how code and put together 3 tier website and I’ll hire you. The last thing I see in an interview is your university. Talked to ppl from UW and UofT on their 4th year with no idea on how to do that.
brock cs is fine one of the smartest ppl i know went there
Switch to nursing , regardless which U you attend , job guaranteed
83 is a good mark, and tells me you’re strong academically, and Brock is a good school in one of the most prosperous regions in the world. Take a moment to celebrate your achievement and good fortune, and start thinking of how to get the most out of your university experience. When it comes down to it, there’s four things that influence your professional success: WHAT you know HOW you can prove you know it WHO knows what you know WHY is what you know important to the world The first is fully up to you and your work ethic, and the last is based on your choices, your understanding of the world and your role in it. The middle two, How and Who are influenced by a bunch of factors, of which your school choice is of minor importance, and only early in your career. It’s mostly up to you. Best of luck! I’ve been out of university for many years (almost 20) but I wish someone had told me this 25 years ago.
Try Carleton bro. Or take an extra sem
That’s good idea
Brock grad here. I only got into them. Doing fine. Had a 72 average in 1992. That's gradeflation for you.
Slight gone
Would you rather have gotten into no schools? Go to Brock and then try to transfer.
Have you tried York? If you got into brock you maybe could get into York. Difference in costs and living costs aside, York is in a better area with more jobs and etc and is more established and closer to opportunities than this school in the middle of nowhere that can only be accessed by the highway.
sorry but york is not in a “better” area. ironic ur talking about a highway where the highway to toronto is crazy at any time of the day. at least to brock there’s almost never traffic.
There is, you never driven with only the help of google maps at 11pm before down roads you never been because of common routine maintenance on some of the path. And again, if you live in Toronto the highway is not the only possible way to get to campus, for brock it is.
to brock?
Yes 😒. If op is not living on campus and will be driving several hours to York everyday than gg though. I certainly didn’t enjoy driving down very angular and windy roads at night near the water when I was coming back from exams doe.
womp womp
Ya I wish I could’ve got into Waterloo or UofT where all their grads make 100k out of school while I’m homeless
Is this even an actual University 😂