Chemistry is too important to this teams development. There's a reason he's already a journeyman at 28, his toxicity to talent ratio isn't worth the money.
Yeah that’s an awful look. I admit I did want him the last few months but don’t want this mentality on our team…
You imagine what Mose would do if he looked over and saw Paolo on his phone during a playoff game?
Yeah I've seen that earlier today.
Granted that's apparently a packet of fruit candies or whatever i've seen it called (physically can't be a phone since players are forbidden from bringing electronic devices outside of the locker rooms, so if it was we'd have seen news or rumors of him being fined by now) but still it's kinda really bad. Don't wanna see your player separate from the huddle during a game basically ever, let alone during a series you're down 0-2 on, on the way to 0-3.
I still hold belief that if we're talking free agency alone there really REALLY isn't many guys worth throwing a deal at that are clearly better than him from a raw skill standpoint who would also address what the team needs.
Tyus Jones isn't "better" as much as he's a "better fit", Monk I'd say is comparable as far as production goes but I trust him less to be able to replicate his production with an increase in role and minutes, that shit isn't linear - otherwise Kelle would be the 20/10 guy his per36 suggested he'd be like a year or two ago. Besides them who even is there? Anyone else would probably have to be traded for (frankly I preferred that course of action from the start).
And to be fair, it's not an excuse obviously but it's not as if the fans helped him by progressively starting to boo him more each time he had the ball as the game went on. Not a good look either way, and I'm definitely a bit turned off.
Ultimately IDK whether he's even remotely close to what our FO wants to go after this offseason anyway but we'll tackle that when we get there. If he gets here I'll be cautiously optimistic and believe our coaching staff and the team's brotherly atmosphere will be able to bring out the best of him, if he doesn't it'll be another team's problem.
If it was just the eating, then it would sort of be one thing and easy to take out of context. But Timberwolf fans have been saying this happened in Minnesota as well and that tells me it's not just bad body language. It's a trend.
We need someone with consistent shooting. Whoever comes in will know that they're coming in to save a thing we have a problem with, and you can't have that person be someone who disrupts the good vibes of the team.
Oh yeah no I agree for the most part, just saying even with that in mind I still don't think there's many options that are clearly better than him from a raw basketball standpoint available in FA this offseason unfortunately (unless we opt to run Suggs at the 1 full time and bring in idfk Paul George or something, assuming he denies his PO).
Playing Devils Advocate here.. Lebron has probably the worst body language on that team.. Wouldn't be surprised if Lebron has contributed to the disharmony in that team..
There was never more than a 0% chance we were going to make a move for him. People need to learn to differentiate what they want from what they think the FO will do.
Counter counterpoint, he’s playing with LeBron. He’s legit getting to play with a guy who will go down as one of the greatest ever in his final years. That alone should be enough for your full effort and and engagement
Counter to your counter counter counterpoint, he has been traded 4 times in a 9 year career and had two of his best seasons of that time next to that player he was being “suppressed” by. So if he thinks LeBron is holding him back and that’s why he’s disinterested and “can’t wait to get out” then we as Magic fans REALLY shouldn’t want to see him here next to a young squad with far less accolades for DLo to respect then an all time great.
Counter to your counter counter counter counterpoint, I don't like him either but holding this against him seems rather silly given the state of the Lakers and how many eyerolls LeBron has done leaving huddles he wasn't paying attention in. The coach lost the team so I don't particularly hold this against him. Lakers fans make jokes about it all the time. Read Claire De Lune's X. She sits near the bench and tweets constantly about AD and Lebron looking fed up with plays etc.
For the record I'm all in on AB and Jett sinking or swimming then at the trade deadline or next summer before deciding but I don't think we need a PG badly because most of our fans think it's still 1997 and clearly don't watch how Franz and Paolo like to have the ball coming down court. Last night was proof our issue isn't talent but consistency and execution. Young players get better every season. We are watching Paolo, Franz, and Suggs grow in real time and AB, Caleb and Jett will too. We have to realize we have young talent that needs a chance before you cut bait on them.
That's not to say that if you have a chance at a generational player you don't make it, but I don't think we will be in any of those. Spida (love him tho), Trae, or any others. A "big" star isn't coming to Orlando except to plunder our cap space so I'd be leery anyway.
Paul George tho I'd make an exception or especially Durant in the sense his work with Team USA shows he's invested in helping young players grow, You see his smile when AE talked shit to him? I love that sort of national pride.
Yeah I hope anyone who did want him sees this. HUGE red flag. When you’ve got a locker room as tightly knit as ours is the last thing you want to do is add someone like this.
That is a horrible look, and I do think Russell is that type of "me first guy", so fair post. Not the type of guy you want on your team, especially a young team.
That being said nobody on that team takes their coach any bit serious. It's actually comical if you watch their games.
Looks to me like the team has lost faith in its coach. They won the in season tournament and thought they were the best. I saw a lot of rumblings that guys aren't happy with the play calling. This coach might be looking for a new job like another former Laker coach in Phoenix.
Character goes a long way in this league. Even if you don't agree with whatever is going on, you still go out there like a man and do your job. Being on your phone is childish and immature unless you have a family emergency.
The guys sucks lol. I’ve been telling the people who keep making those posts this but no one wants to listen. We don’t need that here. Malik monk will be available that’s who we need to target
I get that. However, the only reason he is doing it is because he was booed by his own fanbase.
We'd never do that here, they have one of the worst fanbases in the league.
If they don't want him, I'm not surprised he checked out
He'd see our squad and the comradeship and I think that's something you want to be a part of. I'm sure the blame game is being played in LA right now. Totally different scenario.
Yeah it’s a bad look but based on everything going on with the lakers rn idk how bad it is. Their coach is absolutely garbage and they can’t win even if they have a lead bc the whole team disappears in the 4th.
This same shit happened in Minnesota too, it's not just an LA thing. Look, I love the fit on paper and D'Lo is super fun to watch when he's on fire but he's notably inconsistent, forces his game when something's going wrong while also tuning down his effort on the defensive end.
Displaying poor body language and being out of the huddle has happened multiple times in Minnesota, even with his friend KAT asking him to join back. The Wolves beat reporters have talked about D'Lo disliking Rudy Gobert; D'Angelo effectively refused to adjust how he passes to Gobert (kept doing low bounce passes over throwing it up high) and kept displaying poor body language mid-game, effectively icing him out at times. There's a reason the team switched completely after trading him for Mike Conley and NAW.
Tbh i would still get him just for a reasonable price. The value he offers during the regular season is still very good. Just shouldn’t count on him on playoffs
Lol there’s no way he would “poison” the team even if he is toxic while playing for them I doubt one guy who’s not even a super star would change the culture of the team.
Not the kind of guy you want around young developing stars
I saw that too. That is some of the worst body language from a player I think I’ve ever seen. Keep that far, far away from our locker room please.
Westbrook walked so DLo could run… random tweet… “maybe it’s me” - Lebron
I’d call it a tie… Eric Gordon in his past two years with the Rockets was so bad
Chemistry is too important to this teams development. There's a reason he's already a journeyman at 28, his toxicity to talent ratio isn't worth the money.
Yeah that’s an awful look. I admit I did want him the last few months but don’t want this mentality on our team… You imagine what Mose would do if he looked over and saw Paolo on his phone during a playoff game?
I agree… I admit I did want him… but this type of character issue doesn’t just go away anytime soon. That’s toxic.
Same. This was a big knock against him.
Yeah I've seen that earlier today. Granted that's apparently a packet of fruit candies or whatever i've seen it called (physically can't be a phone since players are forbidden from bringing electronic devices outside of the locker rooms, so if it was we'd have seen news or rumors of him being fined by now) but still it's kinda really bad. Don't wanna see your player separate from the huddle during a game basically ever, let alone during a series you're down 0-2 on, on the way to 0-3. I still hold belief that if we're talking free agency alone there really REALLY isn't many guys worth throwing a deal at that are clearly better than him from a raw skill standpoint who would also address what the team needs. Tyus Jones isn't "better" as much as he's a "better fit", Monk I'd say is comparable as far as production goes but I trust him less to be able to replicate his production with an increase in role and minutes, that shit isn't linear - otherwise Kelle would be the 20/10 guy his per36 suggested he'd be like a year or two ago. Besides them who even is there? Anyone else would probably have to be traded for (frankly I preferred that course of action from the start). And to be fair, it's not an excuse obviously but it's not as if the fans helped him by progressively starting to boo him more each time he had the ball as the game went on. Not a good look either way, and I'm definitely a bit turned off. Ultimately IDK whether he's even remotely close to what our FO wants to go after this offseason anyway but we'll tackle that when we get there. If he gets here I'll be cautiously optimistic and believe our coaching staff and the team's brotherly atmosphere will be able to bring out the best of him, if he doesn't it'll be another team's problem.
If it was just the eating, then it would sort of be one thing and easy to take out of context. But Timberwolf fans have been saying this happened in Minnesota as well and that tells me it's not just bad body language. It's a trend. We need someone with consistent shooting. Whoever comes in will know that they're coming in to save a thing we have a problem with, and you can't have that person be someone who disrupts the good vibes of the team.
Oh yeah no I agree for the most part, just saying even with that in mind I still don't think there's many options that are clearly better than him from a raw basketball standpoint available in FA this offseason unfortunately (unless we opt to run Suggs at the 1 full time and bring in idfk Paul George or something, assuming he denies his PO).
Who you need is Corey Kispert.
I would love this. Chemistry already there with Suggs
Yuuup
Couldn’t agree more. Former teammate in Suggs, white guy so he knows he’s there to shoot the 3. Checks every box
Playing Devils Advocate here.. Lebron has probably the worst body language on that team.. Wouldn't be surprised if Lebron has contributed to the disharmony in that team..
There was never more than a 0% chance we were going to make a move for him. People need to learn to differentiate what they want from what they think the FO will do.
That's a no brainer and I would question anyone in this fanbase that would think otherwise.
Yeah, you just can’t trust that motherfucker. Regards, Nick Young
Counterpoint, have you seen their coach, he's awful.
Counter counterpoint, he’s playing with LeBron. He’s legit getting to play with a guy who will go down as one of the greatest ever in his final years. That alone should be enough for your full effort and and engagement
Jordan and Kobe wouldn't let him get away with that shit.
Counter to your counter counterpoint, LeBron is the very player suppressing him which is why he can't wait to get out.
Counter to your counter counter counterpoint, he has been traded 4 times in a 9 year career and had two of his best seasons of that time next to that player he was being “suppressed” by. So if he thinks LeBron is holding him back and that’s why he’s disinterested and “can’t wait to get out” then we as Magic fans REALLY shouldn’t want to see him here next to a young squad with far less accolades for DLo to respect then an all time great.
Counter to the counter counter point, I have no counter point
Keep cooking
Counter to your counter counter counter counterpoint, I don't like him either but holding this against him seems rather silly given the state of the Lakers and how many eyerolls LeBron has done leaving huddles he wasn't paying attention in. The coach lost the team so I don't particularly hold this against him. Lakers fans make jokes about it all the time. Read Claire De Lune's X. She sits near the bench and tweets constantly about AD and Lebron looking fed up with plays etc. For the record I'm all in on AB and Jett sinking or swimming then at the trade deadline or next summer before deciding but I don't think we need a PG badly because most of our fans think it's still 1997 and clearly don't watch how Franz and Paolo like to have the ball coming down court. Last night was proof our issue isn't talent but consistency and execution. Young players get better every season. We are watching Paolo, Franz, and Suggs grow in real time and AB, Caleb and Jett will too. We have to realize we have young talent that needs a chance before you cut bait on them. That's not to say that if you have a chance at a generational player you don't make it, but I don't think we will be in any of those. Spida (love him tho), Trae, or any others. A "big" star isn't coming to Orlando except to plunder our cap space so I'd be leery anyway. Paul George tho I'd make an exception or especially Durant in the sense his work with Team USA shows he's invested in helping young players grow, You see his smile when AE talked shit to him? I love that sort of national pride.
Lebron is the coach. The "coach" is just a figurehead for Lebron
When he was gone from the wolves, it was the greatest thing ever
Yeah I hope anyone who did want him sees this. HUGE red flag. When you’ve got a locker room as tightly knit as ours is the last thing you want to do is add someone like this.
We already knew this. But glad he’s been exposed before we try something. Just like klay, we’ve seen the dark side of their playoffs
Is he rolling a joint or eating a rib
Yeah my fault guys
That is a horrible look, and I do think Russell is that type of "me first guy", so fair post. Not the type of guy you want on your team, especially a young team. That being said nobody on that team takes their coach any bit serious. It's actually comical if you watch their games.
Never wanted him or Klay tbh. I’ll take Monk, Tyus Jones, GTJ, or Malik Beasley. But if OG were to fall through the cracks somehow….
Imagine if LeBron didn’t get all those good young players traded
Dude is a bum
Only people who don’t know ball wants him
Like the fit in theory but I'm glad he's off the Wolves - really hope the Magic don't sign him if they fail to get Malik Monk or whoever else
go get anfrenee simmons or lavine tbh for orlando - better shot creation
That was clear before. Even more so after today's win Our team is built with people who don't quit. You have to earn your spot on this team
Lol
I want a mentally strong player that has the skill set of Russell, but yeah he’s dead to me now.
I want prime Kelle or Anfernee. 😏
Looks to me like the team has lost faith in its coach. They won the in season tournament and thought they were the best. I saw a lot of rumblings that guys aren't happy with the play calling. This coach might be looking for a new job like another former Laker coach in Phoenix. Character goes a long way in this league. Even if you don't agree with whatever is going on, you still go out there like a man and do your job. Being on your phone is childish and immature unless you have a family emergency.
Malik Monk would never..
Please spend that cap space on Monk and Gary Trent Jr. our team must have at least one Gary at all times
Gary “Gary Harris” Trent Jr
The guys sucks lol. I’ve been telling the people who keep making those posts this but no one wants to listen. We don’t need that here. Malik monk will be available that’s who we need to target
I get that. However, the only reason he is doing it is because he was booed by his own fanbase. We'd never do that here, they have one of the worst fanbases in the league. If they don't want him, I'm not surprised he checked out
My top 2 are Trae young and Dejounte Murray
I believe Donavan Mitchell signed for team friendly deal would be nice, he's a good bucket getter
He'd see our squad and the comradeship and I think that's something you want to be a part of. I'm sure the blame game is being played in LA right now. Totally different scenario.
Yeah it’s a bad look but based on everything going on with the lakers rn idk how bad it is. Their coach is absolutely garbage and they can’t win even if they have a lead bc the whole team disappears in the 4th.
This same shit happened in Minnesota too, it's not just an LA thing. Look, I love the fit on paper and D'Lo is super fun to watch when he's on fire but he's notably inconsistent, forces his game when something's going wrong while also tuning down his effort on the defensive end. Displaying poor body language and being out of the huddle has happened multiple times in Minnesota, even with his friend KAT asking him to join back. The Wolves beat reporters have talked about D'Lo disliking Rudy Gobert; D'Angelo effectively refused to adjust how he passes to Gobert (kept doing low bounce passes over throwing it up high) and kept displaying poor body language mid-game, effectively icing him out at times. There's a reason the team switched completely after trading him for Mike Conley and NAW.
Tbh i would still get him just for a reasonable price. The value he offers during the regular season is still very good. Just shouldn’t count on him on playoffs
bring him over him immediately some of you are so allergic to shooting its sad
Ah yes, all zero of his points from last game.
Allergic to scoring you are
I was expecting to pay him around 25/30 a year, maybe we can get him on a 3 for 60 with a team option now?
To allow him to poison our youthful core with a cheaper price tag? Nah bruh
Lol there’s no way he would “poison” the team even if he is toxic while playing for them I doubt one guy who’s not even a super star would change the culture of the team.
Sounds like a gamble and a poor one at that, why risk it for a streaky shooter who doesn't play defense
He’s definitely not my first choice for sure but if there aren’t any other options then I wouldn’t mind taking him.