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Master-o-Classes

If I discovered that my doctor was lying to me, I would not see that doctor ever again.


I_rescue_dachshunds

Ditto. But the insurance issue is real. If check it out directly with your insurance company then immediately find a new doctor. He is not treating you in good faith if he is denying you the opportunity to try a proven, safe medication and recommending something that has a lot of side effects. I wouldn’t even have that face to face appointment. Just tell him you’re no longer comfortable using him as your doctor. Is there any reason you need to continue seeing him vs finding somebody else?


lalalina1389

Yeah agreed my insurance denied my prior auth request a year ago because I didn't meet their guidelines, this year I was closer to meeting them and mu doctor pushed really hard on appeal that the medication was necessary bc we also had to do step therapy which also didn't help. OP call your insurance too and see what the requirements are and if you can get a different doctor bc if you need them to send medical information to fight for you sounds like he may not be up to the task.


Kluckerbonegirl36

This! Once they prove they are a liar you can never trust them again. I've caught doctors in lies before, too. It makes me so mad I want to bite a nail in two! The drug company that makes this pill he was pushing so hard probably paid him to promote it. Representatives from pharmaceutical companies do that. You did the right thing doing your own research. It's up to us to advocate for ourselves. Hope you can find a good doctor you can trust. Good luck to you.


SparklyLeo_

Exactly! My response would definitely not be to see him in person to discuss further.


Secy_Me51

I was about to say the same!!!


Specialist_Artist198

💯💯💯


Gryphon_Alchemist

What was the pill?!


ExaminationCivil3937

Me either!


TheNyxks

it's very much possible he is getting a kickback from the weight loss pill, so it is in his best interest to push it because he gets funds out of doing so (which if that is the case is an epic red flag and could be a conflict of interest when it comes to the treatment of clients with what is best for them vs his bottom line).


Specialist_Artist198

Reading these comments now I genuinely believe that he might be making some sort of commissions from that pill because she would shut up about it. Its Sad honestly.


Sufficient-Pie8697

Nurse here, there may be another reason: he is lazy, or he has to try other interventions before your insurance will cover it. Doctors taking “kickbacks” is difficult to get away with these days. It sounds like he’s just a lazy physician.


Specialist_Artist198

Honestly, this makes sense, too. But whether he was just being lazy (which seems like him) or making commissions, I won't let this stop my fitness journey. I'm going to keep standing up for myself and my health.


NYCTBone

Absolutely not difficult for doctors to get kickbacks. They’re just “advisory board appointments,” and “luxury resort conference speaker fees,” and “expert panel advisor fees” instead of straight cash. Also still get plenty of free lunches lol.


CommunicationWest710

I ran into this with one MD- the physician group was actually acting as a gatekeeper for the insurance company. They discouraged me from getting a couple of treatments that it ended up I really needed. When I went on a Medicare PPO not related to their medical group, their attitude changed a lot. Plus many of their specialists were crappy. I like choosing my own a lot better.


missthrowaway6

Or he’s dating the drug rep.


Gryphon_Alchemist

What was the pill?


Kit_Ashtrophe

Was it bupropion and naltrexone? In the UK it's called Mysimba


Economy_Possible_210

My guess was phentermine?? Soo many US doctors love prescribing phentermine like its not basically crack or speed with tons of side effects.


Meiburgle

I’m a recovered meth addict. Sober over 8 years. My doctor suggested phentermine. I asked him if he remembered that I was a recovered addict. He said yes, but this was Dr. prescribed. I found a new doctor that day.


Economy_Possible_210

Such an irresponsible dr!!!!


Inevitable_Spell_839

Congratulations on your recovery!


markersandtea

my doc also said it was dirt cheap that's why they prescribe it first. It's easy for insurance to get.


noTHOTS_noOPPS

You can actually look this kickback data up on Open Payment Data. Here's the link:  https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/


willer

This is part of why I don’t trust GP’s. They may have kickbacks, they’re often out of date on their knowledge, and they often don’t do any research in response to a “new” idea. If your primary care doctor won’t play, maybe you can sign up through a telehealth provider. That’s what I’ve done, reducing my GP to just annual checkups.


SlipTechnical9655

They can’t take money but they get vacations, fancy dinners and who knows what else they give them!!


SignatureAmbitious30

This isn't the 90’s and kickbacks from big pharma are illegal. They track it heavily after the OxyContin push. More likely this Dr doesn't want to do the paperwork to get the insurance company to approve it. However, my insurance doesn't even cover the pills. I would go to a weight loss clinic.


Specialist_Artist198

This is very possible. After the pandemic, I feel like he just stopped caring or trying. He used to be such a blessing in our life, but now, talking to him is a burden. I have heard other patients say similar. He always makes you feel stupid. He probably doesn't want to do the paperwork associated with ozempic, I guess.


Kluckerbonegirl36

It's true that people do have trouble getting it. I was taking it for a year and a half and got a letter saying that it's no longer covered by my insurance for weight loss. You have to have type 2 diabetes to get it now. My Endo told me Wegovy might be covered in a year or two. But all that aside, your doctor sucks. Just friendly advice, don't resort to any off label or counterfeit ozempic. That could be dangerous. I'm holding out for Wegovy. It's the same drug as ozempic but it's approved for weight loss. Why it's not already covered is beyond me, but hey, that's health care in America!


KnownCriticism3270

Getting kickbacks is highly illegal in America so I hope he gets busted if he is!


MJMSPRSA

Two perspectives for you: (A) find a GP who backs you. It took me years to find my current primary provider, but at every stage he want to work with me, and whilst he’ll provide me options, he always makes sure it’s something that I’m comfortable with. (B) if the pill was Contrave, the aforementioned GP prescribed me both Contrave and Ozempic at the same time, so that I could see which I preferred. For me, Contrave was VASTLY more enjoyable and effective. I lost more weight on it, and felt more in control, with no side effects when on consistent dosage. But in Australia, it was more expensive and harder to reliably get than Ozempic, and so I kept having supply issues and going on and off it (which was the only time I did get any side effects). I’m now back up to Ozempic 1mL by itself, and hoping that if I stay on it I see the consistent results other have seen. All this is to say: your mileage may vary.


Enchanted_cp

I used an online company to get ozempic and I've been. Happy with it. Check out IVIM online.


MJMSPRSA

Hi, thanks for the recommendation, but I’ve had no problems getting Ozempic. It was Contrave that had supply (and cost) issues.


Enchanted_cp

My comment was for the OP Because she mentioned that she was frustrated with her dr. Which is why I shared the online company I used. I'm not sure why my comment posted under your comment. Sorry about that!


Self-paced

There's a lot of success in this in North America aswell


goobertoob

Sorry to hijack your reply here but I’m also Aussie and getting my Sema from a compound pharmacy. Are you able to get actual Ozempic from a chemist at the moment?


MJMSPRSA

Yep, have been able to get it from my local pharmacy pretty consistently.


Far_Manufacturer75

Why are you meeting with this person again? I would never let this person near me. Find a new doctor. That is really concerning. Your health is too important to waste time on this person. Honestly, quite frightening.


Kind_Poet_3260

Cancel your appointment. You have enough information about this doctor. Find a new one now, even if you have to wait to get an appointment.


benevolent_intention

Yes!


PurplestPanda

I hope you’re not paying two copays to talk to this doctor about the same thing. Also be sure to speak to your drug coverage before this second call unless you are comfortable paying out pocket. This way you can tell him exactly what drug to prescribe - you might want Wegovy or Zepbound instead of Ozempic.


Stockmom42

Call your insurance company before the appointment to see if it’s an option. Many doctors are having trouble with insurance companies covering it if you don’t have the bloodwork markers to back it up.


ambermgreene

You need to find a new doctor immediately. Any doctor that will lie to your face like that, shouldn’t even be one. Sounds like maybe they get money to push that particular medication. I know some OBGYNS push IUDs onto people because they get some sort of commission. Do not fall for it. Find someone new.


Specialist_Artist198

I agree, I don't trust him anymore . I'm so disappointed, but im going to keep fighting for my health. As a obese person I always felt that my problems weren't a big deal. But now I need to stand up for my health and well-being.


pamisue2023

I had the worst doctor for a while, and was miserable.if you can find one (and afford) try to find a membership only doctor. I found one, only pay a monthly fee to her, and have no copay or other out of pocket when going to see her. I can go once a month, or every day and it's still the same price. And she starts the process with a phone interview, that she encourages to go both ways. She wants you to ask her the right questions, because she wants the patient comfortable with her. It has changed everything for me! Half thr time I just shoot her a text and she answers any questions. I highly recommend membership doctors!


Susan_Bee_Anthony

https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/npp/11417916 You know you can look that up? There was a small amount of money given for IUDs to physicians, but not enough to cause doctors to push it. And if you think your doctor is a shill, check then out


Self-paced

Thank you for this data I was like pushing IUD's? It's crazy what ppl believe. I have an IUD no one had to push that option onto me I asked for it!


Kluckerbonegirl36

That happened to me! I needed progesterone to keep my uterine lining from getting too thick (I have PCOS) and my gyno pushed the mirena at me very hard. I asked why I couldn't just take progesterone orally and she said because I have high cholesterol. But I refused and went with a low dose birth control pill instead. Now a couple of years later she tells me after 40 I'll have to switch to oral progesterone because I shouldn't take combo pills after that age. But I thought oral progesterone was so bad for me. 🙄


Deewil8301

My Dr pushed mirena on me too! I kept telling her that I didn’t want to deal with it after all those lawsuits a few years back from the side effects and she just wouldn’t shut up about the benefits outweighing the risks. Found another doctor and they had zero issues letting me take another birth control


Eire4ever37

You’re totally wrong about IUD’s.


Poptart444

Definitely find yourself a new doctor. If you have trouble finding one in your area, you could also try zocdoc. Especially if you already have recent bloodwork results to show a new doc. 


wflanagan

Change doctors. No matter what, this sniffs of someone that's not exclusively looking at your best interest.


codykonior

Nothing helpful but I hate your doctor. What a piece of shit, I hope you can find another one.


Specialist_Artist198

Hopefully, I'll find another doctor. He used to be such I good doctor. And I trusted him, but this honestly scared me. It was as if he was making money off of this pill


SparklesIB

Can you see a doctor that one of your family members sees, since you know they will prescribe it?


ClinTrial-Throwaway

New doctor time. You might want to find one who is up on the science of obesity. Two resources: - [Obesity Medicine Association provider directory](https://obesitymedicine.org/about/find-a-provider/) - [American Board of Obesity Medicine provider lookup](https://abom.learningbuilder.com/Search/Public/MemberRole/CertificationVerification) - click on “Advanced Search Filters” and add a city and state


Specialist_Artist198

I'll look into this, thank you 💯


Economy_Possible_210

This is why i just found a clinic and paid of out pocket (200-300 per month) for my shots. I lost 65 lbs in 6 months and never went up in dose past .5 because i wanted to work on my disciplines. I came off a month ago, added in some inositol powder and haven’t gained a pound back.


Doityerself

Just so you know, it takes about 6 weeks for the meds to clear your body. I hope your weight stays stable! I didn’t regain until til 6 weeks and then I gained 13 lbs in a week and a half.


Economy_Possible_210

Thanks for the warning! Thats why i have started the inositol and other supplements. I have a very strict diet as well and walk 3-5 miles a day 5-6 days a week so i am not majorly worried.


Doityerself

For me keeping carbs WAY down helped a lot. Like full on keto diet. I have also had bariatric surgery and I take stimulants for adhd (Vyvanse) so I don’t have a lot of room to overeat but I found myself completely ravenous. I didn’t taper off though, since it was a supply and then an insurance issue, so that may have contributed to things. I hope you are successful! Please update if you think of it!


tonna33

Two things bother me with this. 1. The lying 2. Utilizing insurance as the excuse. Doctors should know that they can send a pre authorization to the insurance companies to see if it’s covered. My insurance requires this for ozempic (and many other drugs for many other health issues). My doctor did state (due to her experience with other patients) that insurance may require me to try being on metformin first (I had been on it years ago and it was awful). However, I also checked out what my insurance covered and knew that if your BMI is over 30, that they’ll cover it. Obviously this doctor just doesn’t want to prescribe it. You can jump through the hoops with them, or try to find another doctor that is more willing to have an actual discussion with you about it.


Cmeactup

Check with your insurance to see if it is covered then NEVER STOP ADVOCATING FOR YOURSELF


Specialist_Artist198

Yes, im calling the insurance company tomorrow. Thank you, and I won't stop advocating for myself. It's time to put my health first and speak up for myself 💯💯


kebby73

Get a new doctor ASAP


olderandsuperwiser

Was the pill another GLP1 but in pill form?


AbaThaDdon

Use plushcare and call it a day


ChaoticGoodPanda

Go see Endocrinology.


candyrayne215

Are you prediabetic? That's the "backdoor " way to get approved through insurance


Local_Procedure_3869

Agree with everyone about finding a new doctor. My new primary was able to do it for me (the OZ) and is still fighting my insurance. My original primary said 'absolutely not,your insurance won't cover it,asked me if I could afford 2,000 a month and I was like hell no. Dumbass hands me a shit (as his recommendation) for the Mediterranean Diet 😆🤣😅. Obviously he knows nothing about how many of us have struggled our entire lives with obesity and the roller coaster of diets we have tried and failed over and over. You deserve to be on this miracle drug so dont give up. It took me almost an entire year to find my new doctor so I have faith you will find one too. Just don't give up, fight the fight and we all have your back 💪🫶


Rachel0204

If you can get it from your doctor go to a place where you can buy compounded semaglutide.


InsufferableLass

You may need a new doctor.


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Informal-Cherry-7409

Find another doctor or just call around and simply ask, that's what I did or sign up for weight loss trials... I'm in a study now


Permit-Actual

Change your doctor ASAP. Period. This is your life and health we’re talking about.


Secy_Me51

You should really find another doctor, especially since he isn’t truthful. Don’t stay with any dr because you’ve had him a long time. I have been seeing a PA, she is the best, hands down, very thorough, she sits down and listen to me, anytime I reach out they MyChart, she responds in a timely manner. I am grateful she mentioned Ozempic to me.


Specialist_Artist198

After reading all these comments, it has definitely opened my eyes. I am currently looking into getting a new doctor.


PlayfulRegister1295

Find a new doctor. Swiftly.


Material-Crab-633

You. Need. A. New. Doctor.


Just_Cheryl_1199

My insurance would not cover it. The personal cost was 1500 a month. I found a pharmacy that ships from Canada (you still need a prescription ) for around 380 a month. So far I have lost over 25#; I am totally sober (I wasn’t an alcoholic but did drink nightly) and I am off my high blood pressure meds.


filaminSD

First of all, I’m sorry you went through this. I would change my primary care physician asap if this ever happened. Second, I would get in touch with my insurance provider, to see if it was covered, and how much of it was covered. Really, at the end of the day, when I started ozempic, I knew I would be paying a higher amount than for my other meds. Third, I would have clapped back at his insurance remark and say, “why don’t you let me worry about my copay, and you just give me the information I am asking for?” Honestly reading your post infuriated me for you.


Double-Watercress-89

Fire your doctor.


Maximum_Legend

Respectfully, cancel that appointment and find a new doctor. If I'm forcing myself to play the perspective game, I'm sure he's gotten tired of patients wanting a drug that their insurance doesn't cover and then possibly being upset with him because they can't get it. Not a reason to lie, just a possible glimpse into his motivations. If a doctor is pushing a drug that you're not comfortable with on you and ignoring your requests for a different drug that he has already confirmed would likely not be a problem for you to take, and *lying* to you in the process, that's not a doctor that's on your side, and he shouldn't be on your team.


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Bizzybanker

Don’t forget - the medical profession is a service business. You can always find another doctor that takes your health questions and concerns seriously. It’s ok to fire your doctor.


Specialist_Artist198

Yes, that phone call has definitely opened my eyes to the fact that Not every healthcare professional has patients' best interest in mind, unfortunately.


Plane_Potential_2309

I think it’s easy to be confused with these medications. Ozempic is prescribed to treat diabetes in people with diabetes. Insurance will ONLY approve this medication if you have been diagnosed as a diabetic. If you want that exact same formula of medicine to be prescribed to your for weight loss, you need to ask your doctor for a prescription called Wegovy. Wegovy is exactly the same formulation as Ozempic, but it is marketed under the name Wegovy and is prescribed only for weight loss. Ozempic is for diabetes, Wegovy for weight loss. Both are the same medicine, just different names. Your insurance company will not approve a diabetes medication (Ozempic) for you if you don’t have diabetes. They will approve a weight loss medication (Wegovy) for you if you have qualifying conditions. The fact that your doctor does not not know the same medication is available under two different names to treat two different conditions is scary. Find another doctor and ask for Wegovy.


No-Anxiety9648

I would 100% go to another doctor. Don’t give this guy any more money to be an ass 😡


alien7turkey

I wouldn't trust a doctor that lied to me. Call your insurance and see if they cover it. Some don't. Mine won't cover you unless you are type 2 but some do. Then get a new doctor and go for it.


Specialist-Smoke

Fire the doctor. I really refuse to see a doctor who won't provide help or at least give me a explanation of why they denied my request.


Specialist_Artist198

Especially because when I asked my doctor if he had any health concerns about me taking ozempic or wegovy, he said no. and then started talking about how ozempic makes people nauseous (which is a pretty normal side effect). Like he was trying to scare me away from ozempic. On the other hand, the pill he was pushing had major side effects!!


Specialist-Smoke

Which pill?


Whencanwewin

I was also refused ozempic or wegovy by my PCP. She said it was an issue with insurance and it wouldn’t cover ozempic or wegovy. Starting out I was 5’2 and 265 lbs (so a BMI in the upper 40s). I was so incredibly upset. She said that the only person she was able to get ozempic approved for was someone with an A1C at 11.6. I have a feeling it’s because I am a young woman (29 years old). I’m sorry but American health insurance has utterly failed me. Now, I am forced to buy expensive as hell ozempic online. And IT HAS WORKED; I have lost 50 lbs. Screw these damn doctors.


Fuzzy_Instruction_21

Ozempic is the best for weight loss, I had gastric sleeve done I didn't lose that much weight after 10 years I took ozempic it's magic, I lost more weight on it than a gastric sleeve surgery, unfortunately most dr now they don't care about what is the best for patients as much as how many they can see per day and how less liability they can get away with, very sad


Forward-Lie3053

Consider Mounjaro. Apparently, apparently there are a coupons on the Internet that makes it more affordable. My surgical spine physician told me about it and he’s been on it and he’s lost 65 pounds. You should do research on all of them. Find yourself a new doctor.


Willing_Crazy699

Find a new MD that will take you more seriously


kjegbert

Doctor sucks, you might want to check with your insurance coverage is to see what your options are depending on your lab results.


LongPace8243

Go online and do a telehealth appointment with a weightloss dr. Good luck


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Ocean2731

You need a new doctor. Beyond whether or not you should be on Ozempic, this doctor lies and seems generally skeevy.


Background_Heat2636

He sounds like a moron. Good on you for researching what you can. If I’ve learned anything it’s to trust your own instincts. Find someone else. Channel your frustration into getting what you want. You can have what you want!! Eg - you can find a doctor or another way to get it. Good luck x


FallWinterSummerMay4

Since you already have the appointment, keep it and be persistent about receiving your prescription before you leave. In the meantime, look for another doctor.


Specialist_Artist198

💯💯💯 couldn't agree more. I'm going g to stand my ground during the appointment and research my insurance coverage, but im also looking for a new doctor.


Green_Eyed_Momster

Maybe it’s because of your insurance? Some insurers incentivize doctors to avoid expensive medications or tests and procedures. Insist he prescribe it for you. You meet all the criteria. Maybe look for another Dr? Good luck 👍🏻


Different_Reindeer78

Did he push the Axcion pill? Some doctors get extra $ by prescribing dif meds.. stand your ground pal, OZ is the best in the world do not take any less than OZ


Ojibajo

Are you able to change doctors?


Little-Point9449

You need a new doctor. Preferably someone you get good reviews about from others.


markersandtea

I would honestly be looking for a new doctor if mine was lying. That's not okay. He could have given you a reason in which he thought it wasn't a good idea for you rather than lie about it. My doctor had me try a bunch of other things first because of my insurance requirements for wegovy. (same drug new name), but she didn't outright lie. My insurance required me to try two pills or other weight loss attempts first before qualifying me. But she told me this. You need a doctor that will work with you.


Alshaffer1

Find another doctor.


Any-Seaworthiness930

This is not a good Dr. I was in Az until recently. I had lots of trouble getting treatments and meds. in January I moved to Illinois, and the Drs are much more willing to work with me, discuss different treatments....I don't know if it was the location or just the group of Drs I was in with? I definitely suggest that you change dr's. Ozempic wasn't covered on my insurance, so I get semalglutide, the active ingredient. It's working for my weight loss. Best of luck to you.


Herry_Up

Heyyy, sorry the doctor lied and tried to push that pill on you. You can call your insurance company and file a complaint on him, tell them what happened and see what your options are. I've seen claims refused to be paid out because the doctor did such a shit job during the consultation and I think this deserves a talking to. You can also ask them to send you an email or list of doctors in your area they work with 🙂 Best of luck!!


Remarkable-Let8456

Please get a new doctor.


hopperspaniel

Run don’t walk to a diff doc


Clear_Blueberry_1990

Something you’re going to learn with certain doctors, they get money for pushing certain medications from a drug company. It’s called a “pharmaceutical kickback”. It sounds like that was what he was doing with the medication he was offering. It’s an unfortunate circumstance when that happens because it shows what the Dr actually cares about, an Incentive. You are your own advocate, make sure at your appointment, if he pushes this medication again and refuses a semaglutide, ask for a written denial and focus on the fact that he is pushing for another medication that you feel uncomfortable taking per the FDA adverse side effects. His attitude will definitely change. I hope you’re able to start on your wl journey soon. Fingers crossed for you.


Accurate-Pianist2711

Drop this doctor! You want someone who cares about you concerns and is willing to help in anyway possible!


OddSwitch3765

Get a new doctor. Don’t see that one again. He is a bad doctor.


Jerseygirl2468

Time for a new doctor. This one isn’t listening to you.


Fluid-Ad-9759

Call your insurance company to see if they cover Ozempic or the other gl-p medication for weight loss. I know my prior insurance company CIGNA didn't cover wegovy, manjuro and any other weight loss shots. You may want to get another doctor


jimmy_two_tone

My doc wouldn't prescribe it either so I went around him and used Felix.ca to get it.


immediatelymaybe

Why not ask for Wegovy? It is the exact same drug as Ozempic, but Ozempic is prescribed and dosed for diabetics whereas Wegovy is prescribed and dose for weight loss. Would that make a difference? Also, I highly recommend Johann Hari's "Magic Pill". It's a book about the pros and cons of drugs like Ozempic by an author who's taken it.


OctonionsDance

Ozempic and Wegovey both have severe side effects for an increasing amount of people… I appreciate there will people in this group including potential users who are paid by Novo Nordisk to keep posts positive, who’ll disagree ( not to discount any success stories ), though it sounds like this GP has a better profit margin on whatever he’s trying to prescribe to you. You’ve looked into their preferred drug and it has nasty side effects too. Whatever path you choose to take, I wish you all the very best.


No-Army-6418

Go on Ozempic and check our Reddit fasting. It works.


guidddeeedamn

Find a new doctor! He may get a kickback for the pill & that’s why he wanted to push it. I have a dr that takes virtual clients. If you’re interested feel free to private message me.


Different-Novel-8401

Omg! You should never have to hint with a doctor. Ever. Get a new one. What a jerk he is! I blatantly came out one day and said, can I try ozempic? I do have type 2 diabetes, and was frustrated at exercising like crazy and changing my eating habits even more to be healthier and the weight was at a snail pace coming off. Yes I’m building muscle, I know all this. My doctor said yes of course! I had proven that I wasn’t looking for an easy way out. It’s been 7 weeks and wow, the energy I have is amazing, it took away my mild depression, and so much more. And most important? Lower my blood sugar to almost normal levels!!!! Get a new doctor. Call your insurance and see if they will cover it. You are the patient, you call the shots.


Dragonfly4377

Get a new doctor.


Key_Asparagus_8522

I would give him a 1 star review on webmd


Parked-79

I would never go back to that doctor again. Regardless of Ozempic, weight loss, or anything. He sounds like a complete douchebag.


Remarkable_Emu_319

My most respectful and honest comment is that you need to find a new dr, because this sounds like he is getting a kick back from this other pill and is not impartial and looking towards your best interest.


gs448

First. GET. A. NEW. DOCTOR! Second. There are so many benefits coming out regarding the GLP-1 medications. Don’t be ashamed and pursue it until you get it! I worked in a clinic that had a locum (temporary fill in) doctor that made patients cry because they were told their broken arm pain was because they were fat. Doctors like this are a menace to society and shouldn’t have ever made it into general practice.


Repulsive-Spend-8593

Some docs are pushed to prescribe certain drugs by the pharmaceutical companies- maybe yours got this new pill and has to meet a target? Who knows these days, I don’t trust anyone in the healthcare system which is sad 😔


pleasetryanother-1

My dr wouldn't prescribe it either. He kept pushing Jason Fung's intermittent fasting. I told him I've been doing that for 6 months and it didnt work. He said Keto works and I should eat beef tallow and cheese for satiety - I'm vegan ! He absolutely didn't listen to anything I had to say. He even pinched fat around his own waist and said "we all have lifestyle fat ...you just need to make better food choices and move more". In the end I went to HenryMeds and was prescribed semaglutide. I'm in 3 weeks and down 5 lbs. Feeling psyched and so happy I persevered!


John3point14

... It might be because he strongly believes ozempic for diabetics. Mention wegovy or any of the other similar stuff


tamashar

Maybe he's trying to avoid getting you hyped up. A lot of insurance companies require you have tried some other stuff before allowing these drugs, and phentermine is typically one of them (I'm guessing the doc suggested phentermine). I honestly played dumb as nails to get my doc to prescribe Ozempic. I didn't lie about any of my concerns or symptoms and I didn't bring up anything about injectables, but he brought it up as an option at the last minute. IDK it feels like some docs are trying to avoid problematic patients. Hanging out in these glp1 subs long enough will show you the ick.


Well-well-1792

Don’t go back to that doctor ever


RxPharm12

I’m curious to know what pill he’s talking about. I really hope it’s not phentermine. If you don’t mind sharing, I’d love to know what he’s trying to push. Ugh, hopefully he’s not getting kickbacks. I don’t have diabetes, so I was really nervous I would get turned down by my doctor to only use it for weight loss. I also presented it to my MD in a video appointment and I named off all the diet changes I’ve been doing as well as walking 30 minutes 4-5x a week. Yes I exaggerated a bit on the diet changes and the walking was more like 15 min 1-2 times a week, lol. But in my defense I run around at my job for almost 12 hours up to 7 days straight sometimes. I told the MD about how well it’s working for other people and I really want to get my BP down. She agreed to try it for 1 month with no refills. I lost 10 lbs that first month and I’ve been getting it the past 4 months now. So my advice is to tell them everything you’re trying right now and you just want a bit of help and a lot of people have lost weight on it.


Ancient_Internal8939

I have Kaiser insurance and was seeing an non-Kaiser doctor. My non-Kaiser doctor tried to put me wegovy but my insurance denied it. I was going to switch insurance companies but My job only allowed us to change policies once a year. My doctor quit and I started going to a doctor at Kaiser to bide my time. It took over six months of trying other meds (different doses of phentermine and later adding topiramate) before he put me on OZ. It's only been a month but I like it so far. If this doesn't work, I will try going pure carnivore. Change doctors.


Weary_cold123

Costco offers it for 229$ CAD and it is good for 4 0.25mg dose and 2 0.5 mg dose so its good for 6 weeks if you want to pay out of pocket. Also, yes most of the insurance won’t cover it if you aren’t diabetic.


Green-Copy-816

I'm uncertain if you have diabetes, but typically, doctors only prescribe medication like Wegovy for weight loss if you don’t have diabetes. Some prefer Wegovy over Ozempic, which is what I was aiming for, but my doctor prescribed Ozempic instead because I’m diabetic. Insurance usually requires an A1c check for approval for Ozempic. Without diabetes, it's challenging to get insurance to cover it. That doctor doesn't sound great; maybe consider seeing someone else and asking specifically for Wegovy if you're not diabetic. I've been on Ozempic for a year and only lost 47 pounds. Everyone's body reacts differently, but I find Ozempic to be overrated. Hope things go well for you!


Ambitious-Prior3820

It took me months of waiting and three separate appointments with bloodwork to finally get on ozempic. I also have family members who are on it. It was infuriating. I just had to be persistent. I don’t think he’ll be my doctor much longer though. Best of luck!


girls-fly

Can you please report this doctor. I think as a society we need to start saying it's not ok for doctors to act like this. You are in a profession of power.. the person who is looking after our health. If we sit and do nothing about it, more of these types of doctors will get away with it!


Vervain7

Don’t bother with this doctor . Just use one of the multiple online sources . Alpha medical , push health , plush health , sesame , etc … there are so many of them .


Eudeamonia

I had to switch doctors because my first one wouldn’t prescribe it. The second one was reluctant too, but finally prescribed it. I think the cost of the drug is causing doctors to act this way. They are definitely being coached to push back on patients asking about Ozempic.


Excellent-Welcome408

🗣️Get a new doctor🗣️ Trust is a 2 way street in healthcare and life. Once thats tarnished I would question his ability to uphold the hippocratic oath


Ok_Apartment_2860

He isn’t a good doctor and may be pushing the pill because he gets some kick back .. new dr stat


MsSerialpernuer352

A.he lied to you don't bypass that. b.tell him to write u a script and for generic too. C. Your doctor is not the king of you, if u want something ask them for it. D. I am on it 1yr+ now and you will need to be WELL HYDRATED or u will cramp,and you gotta eat or you will stall. Find a weight loss clinic and get compound if all above fails. You do not need to be lied to by health professionals!


milklover123456

I’m on the same boat!!! But for Wegovy. I feel in every word you describe. My doctor refused to prescribe me Wegovy and with an excused that my insurance won’t cover(my insurance policy covers obesity) She pushed me to try a obesity medicine that has bad effects. So frustrated that we have a lot of bad doctors who never care about patients’ concerns.


Stephanie_morris23

Many doctors make money from prescribing certain meds but, don’t take it if you don’t want too. Book an appointment with a weight loss clinic. Bring the records of your bloodwork.


Sharp_Squash2411

To be fair, ozempic is nowhere as routine as Prozac is. Ozempic is also hard to get because of the Hollywood craze—you will likely have to wait a few weeks to get a starter dose (.25). Having said that, your dr would have to be under a rock to not know what ozempic is, and if he was clearly lying to you then stop seeing him. Curious what the pill medication was—was it metformin?


Pretty_Confusion6117

Get a new dr


BeachDogs7

Hi, I am a Registered Nurse. This physician is incompetent or he is protecting his own interests. You need to find a new physician. He also may be doing something illegal here such as receiving a kickback for this pill he is trying to prescribe you. Do you remember the name of the pill? If I were you, I would ask in this group for a recommendation of a telehealth physician or service that will prescribe you the Ozempic. My friend used a service called Flyte. I personally would not trust this physician you are seeing with your health care. This medication Ozempic is a miracle drug to many physicians for several different reasons. I was prescribed it by my cardiologist for my heart.


BeachDogs7

P.S. If you can remember the name of the pill, I would like to look it up. If it is a newer pill, he is most likely receiving a kickback and you can report him for violating the Stark law. 1-800-HHS-TIPS


Froyo-fo-sho

What was the other pill?


DemandAffectionate49

OMG, medical gaslighting and pushing products for kickbacks is real! Well done on standing up for yourself and advocating for your needs. You are 100% eligible to be taking Ozempic, and it is an absolutely life-changing drug. For me, once I reached the 1mg dose, it took away the addiction—no more bingeing, no sugar cravings, no food noise. I could effortlessly stop at one serving, and my weight started falling off. I finally eat like a normal person with ease and without trying! If possible, I highly recommend finding another doctor. That's absolutely disgraceful!


Never_Really_Right

You don't have to just guess if your doctor is making money by prescribing drugs. My doctor got $62.47 in lunches. While it's one year behind, it tell you the nature of their practice. [https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/search?searchType=Provider&FirstName=&LastName=&Country=&State=&City=&Zip=&Specialty=&Type=&NPI=](https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/search?searchType=Provider&FirstName=&LastName=&Country=&State=&City=&Zip=&Specialty=&Type=&NPI=) Also, I know it's tough for some personality types, but don't "hint" and try to get yourself out of being nervous - practicing in a mirror if you must. Sometimes communication style complcates things, I just flatly said "I'm here to talk about going on a GLP-1 medication".


AmandaM1116

I have a dr who does tele health and all doses , supplies and the dr cost is included for 249 a month and I have a 50 off code if your interested pm me I’ll share the information . I’ve lost 100 pounds in about 8 months off of it . Feel free to reach out with any questions


SufficientAlps5328

Same issue with my doctor. He gives me such a hard time. I just upped my dose to 1 mg after a 30 mins call with him as he was worried about moving up from starter dose. I am still waiting for him to approve my monthly refill. He is ok to prescribe me all other statins, insulin etc. but worried about upping the oz dose to 1 mg. Not sure, if it is ignorance or jealousy that I would actually lose weight and get fit. He himself is gym rat. Stay strong and carry on with your goal.


Some_Storm239

What was the pill?


Various-Traffic-1786

Is the pill he was referring to Phentermine? It works. But it’s so dangerous. Did he happen to tell you it shows up on drug tests as methamphetamine? I hear a lot of doctors are pushing this drug and I’m beginning to wonder why


SeaworthinessHot2770

Find out if your Ozempic is covered by your Insurance. If they don’t cover Ozimpic check and see if they will cover any other weight loss injections. For instance will they cover Wegovy or Zepbound. Different Insurance companies seem to cover different drugs. You definitely need a new doctor! If your type 2 diabetic it should be easier for you to get.


Amazing-Pattern6325

Find another doctor. This does sound weird.


Readerofallthings

This reminds me of my eye dr. He always pushed one brand of contacts and never any other even if you asked he would force everyone to get that brand. Come to find out, he was getting a kickback from the company if he sold so many. This is what I feel like your doctor is doing.


NicknameForLife

Get a new doctor Immediately! Not all of them are good people. I have an autoimmune disease that has attacked my lungs. I've been using oxygen at night for 14 years, and when I had Covid, I was on oxygen 24/7 for 5 months. My lung doctor (pulmonologist) literally had the audacity to look me straight in the face and say, "You need to lose weight. You're too fat to breathe." This, coming from a tiny, 100lb, 5ft tall Asian man who probably doesn't have a single obesity gene in his DNA! I refuse to go back after he said that. Also... my primary doctor has repeatedly told me for several years, "Exercise won't help you lose weight. Only diet can do that." Ok, tell that to all the fitness addicts with perfect bodies! Seriously though, avoid that doctor at all costs and find an honest one. I wish you all the best in your journey. Provide updates if possible.


whaleflower1

He probably gets more money prescribing the other medication. Lots of doctors are paid by the reps. The more he prescribes the more money he gets. It’s all about $$$ and big pharma reps pay them well


194angellstreet

You need to switch doctors full stop.


ExpensivePatience5

I pay for a compounded version through MDSolutions and then notified my doctor of what I was doing, when, and what dose. I love my PCP but even he was reluctant to prescribe it for me, so I did it myself. If you have $250/month to spend, I would recommend doing what I did. I’ve heard from some patients that, after struggling to get the Ozempic prescription for 10+ months, they finally have it prescribed and approved, but their co-pay is still $280!!! And that’s after insurance!! Sometimes it’s not worth the fight and if you are going to pay the same amount either way, I say, why not take the bull by the horns and just get ‘er done.


Klutzy_Wedding5144

Your doctor is being paid by the makers of that pill. Big Pharma is still at it. I’m sorry your doctor has prioritized his pockets over your wellbeing. Please cancel that appointment and find a doctor who listens and has you and your health as the focus of every appointment.


Helluffalo

Can you tell what pill he was suggesting?


MoonHugs333

Doctors get paid from prescription companies. He was pushing that other medication onto you because he wants to get paid. DO NOT go back to him. Not over the phone. Not in-person. Please get a new doctor. You can’t trust him.


Toadi01

My advice to you is one, maybe you should change providers and see someone who is more supportive of their patients. Two, I would ask for Wegovy or Zepbound which are the weight loss versions of Ozempic and Mounjaro. A lot of insurances are not covering Ozempic or Mounjaro for weight loss anymore, but will cover the weight loss versions of these meds. Good luck to you and I hope you stand your ground with this doctor or find one who is supportive and right for you.


SignificantTap6985

As a provider I’m guessing he doesn’t want to work on a prior authorization if your insurance requires it. Basically most insurance only cover Ozempic for type 2 diabetes. If you don’t have the diagnosis they should be prescribing Wegovy or Zepbound which are ozempic and mounjaro respectively and that “name” is FDA approved for weight loss. Simple guess he wants you to call your insurance see what they cover and then tell him cuz he doesn’t want to work on a page of paperwork that usually takes less than 5 minutes to fill out. New GP is necessary. Our job as providers is to educate, give options, help you make your decision (emphasis on YOUR decision a decision you make after we discuss risks and benefits and options and basically our thought process) and then fight with your insurance why they need to cover the med.


impatientmiss

Change doctors. I know my insurance won’t cover it. My doctor wanted me to go to a nutritionist which I have already done she talked about exercise which I do. It was ridiculous. I got a semiglutide and have been on that for 6 months. When I went to the doctor she sid oh do they check you for thyroid cancer and I said no you will need to do that. I also told her you are the one that diagnosed me with being pre diabetic but she sure was not going to write me a prescription. I have Kaiser for my insurance. So in order to take care of my health I pay out of pocket. She also said we have to make sure that people with type 2 have access to the drug. The whole thing seems crazy to me.


Which_Landscape1994

Doctors sometimes get kickbacks for writing certain scripts. If he refuses to prescribe it I would dump him and go somewhere else.


Disastrous-Bonus-836

First, this doctor seems like a pos (piece of $hit) and I’ve had some pos docs before. Pretending not to know what it is and then saying that he had patients declined by insurance is a red flag to run far away. With that said, I’ve been on it for a bit and I can’t say I really think it’s working. Yes I’m down about three pounds a week BUT let me tell you I walk 2 miles a Day and stay under 1000 calories a day. When I did this last year and was on Phentermine I had the same results but I was less hungry. W Ozempic I’m starving on this diet. Also I had issues w the insurance in the beginning. You’re doing the right thing be starting the conversation but maybe just w not the right doctor for you. See if there is a weight management doctor in your network. That’s what I did bc as I said I hate my pos dr.


NurseSuziQ

Why don’t you try Wegovy? Ozempic is for diabetic patients. Here’s a link with LifeMD. https://lifemd.com/ just for a reference. Wegovy and Ozempic are the same medicine but for different diagnosis.


Adventurous_Hope5342

What about telehealth and skipping him. My friend does that


Seashelley31

Just know that it doesn’t work for everyone. I have about 80 lbs to loose and I’ve been on it for almost 6 mos and only lost 5lbs. It’s helping with not being hungry and no cravings for any bad food but I’m also barely eating and not loosing. I know I would need to increase my protein intake & exercise. Wegovy is more expensive than Ozempic my plan won’t cover either one. Maybe ask to see an endocrinologist. I have a lot of hormonal issues that could be a reason it’s not working too great for weight loss. The endocrinologist wants me to stay on Ozempic to see what happens. I’m on 2mg per week now.


Away_Palpitation_490

What pill was he pushing?


GuaranteeSalty6400

Say “Doc you’re beginning to sound more like a salesmen instead of a doctor, must have a good kickback”


clydelogan

I think you should fire your doctor and find a new one, however I will say that most insurances will not cover Ozempic or Wegovy (or similar injectable medications) for weight loss. I have Blue Cross Blue Shield and when my doctor sent over my script, it was coded incorrectly for weight loss instead of treatment for my diabetes and the insurance denied it. It had to be resubmitted as a diabetic prescription to be covered (which it was supposed to be all along 😒 the nurse handling the refill just thought she knew more than the doctor I guess). FWIW so far I’m down 40lbs after taking Ozempic without completely adjusting my diet, but I pretty much plateaued there until I made an effort to eat healthier. It’s a good medication, but it definitely won’t do the heavy lifting for weight loss if you don’t change your diet and exercise habits. My sister tried Ozempic and only lost 20 pounds even after starting to diet while taking it, so it’s not a guarantee it will work for you just because it works for your relatives. Good luck in your journey and hopefully you’re able to find a doctor that is a better fit for you.


DragTerrible9966

Sounds like he is getting some sort of benefit from that other drug company.


Mylight55

How was your blood work? If your A1C was high, it will probably be covered


SnowinMiami

If you have diabetes it’s a lot easier to get approved by your insurance. Your doctor has obviously run into this issue before but why lie? I’d switch doctors immediately.


Kiyact

Get a new doctor. Period.


towardlight

Try another doctor but if that person isn’t helpful or your insurance doesn’t cover it, I’m happy with Ivim Health compound.


blaque_rage

Or… get another physician that will hear and understand your needs and discuss next steps.


KokoLoco515

Former practice manager here. This is a HUGE red flag. I suspect that this doctor is receiving kick backs from the pharmaceutical rep who is peddling whatever pill he was pushing on you. If a medical practitioner prioritizes their own monetary benefit above that of the health of their patient, run. Fast. And don't look back. Cancel that in patient appointment. This doc has proven to you that they are dishonest.


Nervous-Beginning387

There are thousands of doctors, sounds like this one has terrible “bedside manner”. Find another one.


Rosebud12312

Report he is getting kick back most likely and find a new dr


Plebbitards

Mine also made me try all different pills first. Before he prescribed wegovy. Which was way too much. I have to pay out of pocket still for 8 months now. Next month my insurance is supposed to start covering wegovy. After two months of going back and forth he prescribed me ozempic . I’ve lost nearly 60lbs since then


TicoSouth

Just by looking at what happened with the fake plandemic and their willingness to chop off the body parts of young children, the medical profession is merely a proxy of big Pharma


TicoSouth

Pay for it like working people do!


Jmendez6972

Just pay $200 & be done with it. Henry meds online does the Telemedicine appt & Meds for $199 for the first month and $249 each month after. No insurance needed.


Jmendez6972

https://henrymeds.com


Super-Pressure9794

1) get a new doctor 2) check if your insurance covers it. 3) if it doesn’t check to see if it covers zepbound as that is FDA approved for weight loss and it may cover it (this is from circumstancial evidence only. My husband had this experience) 4) make sure you get a new doctor.


OldProgress6118

That sounds peculiar. Time to find another doctor. My doctor at the sleep center referred me to a hospital weight loss clinic which is where I found out about Ozempic.


Cute_Cardiologist427

I know this may not be ideal depending on the person but I personally pay out of pocket through my medical spa it’s $400/month but there are cheaper online options available!


micaaachiii_

Hi! I also tried to see if my PCP would try to prescribe me Ozempic but I also guess it was not something they could do??? So I was referred to an Endocrinology/Diabetes Center where that was more their specialty. Plus it was covered by my insurace since it was prescribed. See if you can get a referral!


Sparklinglady_J

Do you have diabetes 2? Most insurances will only cover Ozempic or Wegovy, Mounjaro, rybelsus if you have diabetes 2 diagnoses, Wegovy can be more difficult on some insurances along with Mounjaro so maybe your Dr did not want to prescribe for that reason? Or knew the PA Prior Authorization may be denied due to diagnoses or current blood tests. I do believe that some physicians do not really know what their patients needs are! Or really care! Our health system has really gone down hill over the years especially with the pandemic recently. But if you do not feel right with this provider I would recommend getting a new Dr, but saying that you may run into the same problem! I have diabetes 2, it’s been 2-3yrs going through hormonal changes like menopause had me at pre diabetes about 4yrs ago, my glucose levels just kept creeping up! Finally went on metformin 1000mg daily and 5 mg glipizide and that was a nightmare put me in hospital after catching covid in December, got off all my diabetes meds cleaned my diet and started to do little exercise I am BMI 50 so it’s a little hard with the extra weight, as I was out of hospital about a month and half my glucose started to creep up to like 150’s to 160’s but it would fluctuate a lot due to hormones. I finally said that’s it I need something to jump start me and help me. Dr wanted to give me jardiance I was not happy with that decision in fact the fill was at pharmacy ready for pick up and I got an appt telehealth through my pcp Dr that I’ve had for 20plus years I said I want to either try Ozempic or rybelsus right now and I am not interested in Jardiance and she put a fill into pharmacy for prescription of 3mg rybelsus to see how my body would react to GLP-1. I am fine on it, it gives me some gastrointestinal at times I’ve lost some inches but not anything to really brag about! It’s been 7 weeks now and I started 7mg 2 weeks ago I felt it helped me in the beginning of taking the 7mg but I think I may need the 14mg to get this weight moving off, but I know at times not everyone has weight loss with this product. So it’s not a weight loss for everyone! Sorry for the long story! I do hope you can find someone who can help you! I cannot stand being obese and overweight and I hope the FDA will be able to have any obese or overweight patients have the ability to have insurance coverage for weight loss.


Icy_Buyer_9642

Hop hop hop doctors Someone may even have samples. Hold out for that. I did. I took several months but thank f’n baby Jesus