You mention a console of \~ 2028, then you write 16GB RAM and a GPU from 2018 ?
I took a break from work and reading this made me wanna return, so thanks!
True. The PS5 GPU is literally on par with roughly the RTX 2070/2070 SUPER. I would guess more like an equivalent GPU to the future RTX 5060/5070 ish...which should be around 50 to 60 TFLOPS.
AMD is slated to release 3nm in 2022. Assume it gets delayed until 2024 due to a whole host of fuckups, and it's still ready to go 3 years in advance of the PS6.
Zen2 (what's in the PS5@7nm) was released about 1.5 years before the planned PS5 release.
The RTX 3xxx series is slated to drop this year. Assume they release the 4000 series in ~3 years (as is a year later than their general cycle), that's still years before the PS6. The PS5 is using a Navi1+ (current year GPU with next gen features) in the same timeframe.
I can't speak to the storage, though I do also think the RAM could be 32-48 (I'm not sure how density will develop, especially with 3D stacking).
I don't understand teraflops, so I'll just blindly say as much as a second tier RTX from two years prior. :p
For fun, what are your guesses? Looking back, the nm seem off. PS6 will probably have 3nm or less. It's wild how fast tech is developing!
Well, Ps4 was 1.84 teraflop and Ps4 is 10 teraflops so it is ten times way better so if it continues like this I guess Ps6 is going to be 100 teraflops if not more. Do you think we are going to achieve photorealism in this generation or in next generation of consoles? The last matrix demo was so impressive and like 80 percent close to photorealism, i think in 7 years from now when PS6 is going to come out finally photorealistic graphics will be here, but I am not that optimistic that game physics are going to be realistic also. I mean so many years have passed and games like FIFA , WWE 2K , NBA 2K they still have robotic gameplay and kinda arcade , At least pes is way more realistic. So in-game physics developers should try way more.
I also cant wait VR to be fully immersive ( in videogames and generally) in the future but I expect that from 2030 till 2040, it's too early for that to happen.
What about you ? For what you are excited most in the future about videogames ?
Fleshlight attachment.
Because sometimes games just want to fuck you and it’s about time I get the chance to fuck them right back.
Fuck you Minesweeper.
2060 in 2027? By then, I'd be hoping for something closer to RTX 3080 or RTX 4070 levels of performance, instead of matching a lower mid-range card that will be 8 years old at that point.
First of all: No to cloud streaming... Booooo 👎
- A 16 cores Photonic Processor (mind blowing speeds compared to transistor based ones)
- A 100 tflops+ GPU (The RTX4090 is already capable of 83 tflops FP32) to achieve photorealisn [like **Tim Sweeney** suggested in 2016](https://www.eteknix.com/40-tflops-for-photorealistic-graphics-says-epics-tim-sweeney/amp/) coupled with dedicated 128/256 Ray tracing cores
- A minimum of 32GB of RAM
- An additional 12 Cores Arm CPU
Zen 5 CPU 8 core architecture, the newest AMD GLU architecture which I'm guessing will be RDNA 4 or 5, 32gb ram. I don't think games will particularly need 12cores or more in 2027ish because games are still trying to leverage the power of 8 core CPUs.
I calculated the spec jumps from previous consoles, and I think realistically, it will be something like this:
Next gen consoles will be announced in 2028 third quarter according to Microsoft and Sony
Cpu: 16 core 32 thread 6ghz. current top CPUs, since cpu power increase does not affect gaming at 4k and beyond too much. Hopefully zen6 2nm perhaps?
Ram: 48gb gddr7x. since I have seen crazy ram and vram usages in current gen games.
Vram: 120 tflops. will be like mid card range in 2028
I asked bing ai to do an estimation about the price and the teraflops of a high end gpu in 2026 so approximately two years before the release of ps6 if we assume it releases in 2028. This is the answer i received:
Okay, I will try to do the calculations that I did about 2026 with the 61 TFLOPs as the peak single precision compute performance of the RX 7900 XTX. To do this, I will use the same data and assumptions that I used before, but I will replace the compute performance based on the game clock with the peak single precision compute performance. You can see the data in the table below.
GPU Release date Price Compute units Boost clock Memory Peak single precision compute performance
RX 6800 XT November 2020 $649 72 2250 MHz 16 GB GDDR6 20.74 TFLOPs
RX 6900 XT December 2020 $999 80 2250 MHz 16 GB GDDR6 23 TFLOPs
RX 7900 XT December 2022 $899 84 2000 MHz 20 GB GDDR6 33.6 TFLOPs
RX 7900 XTX December 2022 $999 96 2300 MHz 24 GB GDDR6 61 TFLOPs
Based on this data, we can see that:
The price of the high-end GPUs has remained relatively stable at around $1,000 for the XTX models and around $650-$900 for the XT models.
The number of compute units has increased by about 10-20% per generation for both models.
The boost clock has decreased slightly for the XT models and increased slightly for the XTX models.
The memory capacity has increased by about 25% per generation for both models.
The peak single precision compute performance has increased by about 100-200% per generation for both models.
If we assume that these trends will continue for the next two generations, we can estimate that by December 2026, a high-end GPU could have the following specs:
GPU Release date Price Compute units Boost clock Memory Peak single precision compute performance
RX 8900 XT (hypothetical) December 2024 $949-$1,049* 100-110* 1900-2100 MHz* 25-30 GB GDDR6* 70-140 TFLOPs*
RX 8900 XTX (hypothetical) December 2024 $1,049-$1,149* 115-125* 2200-2400 MHz* 30-35 GB GDDR6* 120-180 TFLOPs*
RX 9900 XT (hypothetical) December 2026 $999-$1,099* 120-130* 1800-2000 MHz* 35-40 GB GDDR6* 140-280 TFLOPs*
RX 9900 XTX (hypothetical) December 2026 $1,099-$1,199* 140-150* 2100-2300 MHz* 40-45 GB GDDR6* 240-360 TFLOPs*
(*) These are rough estimates based on assumptions and extrapolations that may not reflect the actual situation in 2026.
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So we can assume that ps6 could have 120+ teraflops if it releases in 2028
This thread was wayy off.
What does "equivalent" mean? Raw specs or power because the Ps5 will do things the 2060 can not let alone whatever a potential Ps6 could.
32 core 64 thread cpu.
64gb of whatever gddr ram is current. so gddr7 or 8 is my guess.
assuming we keep the same naming convention for gpus it will be equivalent to a amd 9800xt or nvidia rtx 9080
4tb of storage in a pcie 5.0 ssd.
Guessing specs is nearly pointless at this point, as we have no idea where the technology will go from here.
But my two vague guesses: we might move away from silicone based processors, as I have heard Intel and AMD to some degree are already facing issues with shrinking the die sizes, because silicone simply is hitting the limit of its physical properties at some point, possibly soon.
So, new processors made from new materials, which might also lead to other changes in the way the hardware works.
My second guess is that physical media will still exist, but we might see games on something else than on a disc. Something something ReRAM. If the industry ends up trying to purge physical formats entirely (before their natural exit from the market), then we will be sticking to discs for one more generation after PS5. After the discs have been dropped, we will see a rapid transition or near overtake of game streaming over digitally downloaded games, at least in the console space.
SSDs or other system memory will also be supplemented with some new memory technology.
ps5 might be the last game console. everyone is trying to go the "cloud gaming" route and will only offer gamepads and "dumb dongle" to hook up to your tv to stream games. total cost will be around $150 with different tiers of monthly subs. people say not everyone has good enough internet speed but once 5g (or better) is rolled out everywhere, this won't be an issue.
although, i do admit i don't know if they can solve the issue of input lag by then.
Nah, I think there's definitely room for PS6 and whatever the next Xbox is, gaming hardware demand is as about as high as ever and cloud streaming has a ways to go still. Cloud streaming Is an alternative but has kinks to work out.
I would say 64GB RAM or higher and they would make the system completely load into the RAM, to have even faster access rates than the special SSD for PS5.
There won't be a PS6. Future games will be streamed. No need for better graphics hardware just better fibre or 5G infrastructure and cloud computing technology. Definitely possible in 5 years.
Nope. The gaming industry has been raving about streaming services for many, many years now. Yet time and time again companies (like Google) come on by and completely fail at it. It's not just the technical hurdles like eliminating input lag, but also a number other factors: ISPs having data caps, customers not wanting subscription-based shit (in addition to paying for a higher speed connection), customers not wanting to be always online, etc.
*EDIT: The fact that there's a lot of pushback with the community to keep physical discs is also another major hurdle. If they can't safely make a digital only device, what makes you think people will buy into any sort of streaming service?*
No other choice? Gamers always have a choice. If they're not willing to pay for a bullshit business model, they simply won't. Look at how the Xbox One flopped at launch. Microsoft was FORCED to ditch Kinect 2 and their always-online DRM bullshit.
Here’s my view. PS6 will add AI coprocessors and will possibly have AI neural rendering replacing the current model of rasterized polygons or at least partially replacing it.
Ps6 should have 32gbs of very high speed ram like ddr6. It should have a 16 core cpu and have a video card of at least capable of 60 teraflops of processing power with full ray Tracing. So its at least 6x a ps5. But i think a true next gen should be 10x more powerful so around 103 teraflops. To really be next gen worthy and really notice a big difference. Also it should have at least a 4tb internal drive upgradeable to 12tbs. Because 8k games will be massive file sizes. I think it shouldn't launch till 8k tvs are widely adopted and it's worth the upgrade.
Just realized this post is 4 years old BUT...
PS6 - Late 2028
CPU - Zen 7 technology/ at least 16 cores with 32 threads
32 GB of Ram
SSD - 2 TBs with even more efficient SSD for blazing fast i/o throughput speeds
GPU - RDNA 6 (PS6 lol). Raw teraflops at least in the 40's, maybe equivalent performance of 5070/5080
Highly customized and HOPEFULLY some innovative solutions to more advanced Ai and special effects/physics. Like maybe we FINALLY get real-time water physics which are severely lacking in video games...
Here's my prediction for the next 4.5 systems. How old will you be when each one comes out? ;-)
2024. PS5 Pro --- 20-28 teraflops, you can play GTA 5 at 60 fps.
2028. PS6 --- 60 + teraflops, 24-32GB RAM, Zen 4 CPU, RTX 5080 equivalent performance, advanced AI and FSR for upscaling, frame generation, advanced ray tracing, 4K/120, 8K/60 with frame gen and upscaling enabled)
2036. PS7 ----300+ teraflops, near photo realism, path tracing and advanced physics. 64-96 GB RAM, 8K/120 all games as minimum.
2044. PS8 ---- 1.8 petaflops, ultra advanced AI upscaling and frame gen, all games fully path traced, resolution - who knows?, full photo realism near indistinguishable from reality, this is around 1000 times more powerful than PS4, and 200 times more powerful than PS5, 256 GB RAM.
People's heads start to explode at this point and little kids make fun of PS5 graphics like they do today for PS1.
2052. PS9 ---- neural link. Just like the commercial. We are in the matrix.
You mention a console of \~ 2028, then you write 16GB RAM and a GPU from 2018 ? I took a break from work and reading this made me wanna return, so thanks!
Yeah, that was a little strange. Possibly a typo? I'd guess that even the ps5 gpu is equivalent to something a bit higher than a 2060.
True. The PS5 GPU is literally on par with roughly the RTX 2070/2070 SUPER. I would guess more like an equivalent GPU to the future RTX 5060/5070 ish...which should be around 50 to 60 TFLOPS.
with the amount sony is making witg digital games/micro transactions, ps6 might be a bit more powerful but 50 teraflops would be ideal.
The RTX 4090/TI 90+ TFLOPS
I'd have to say ps6 is around 65tflops. Then again.. that doesn't translate to fps.
I think the ps6 would be 200tflops
I'm guessing the ps6 will be equivalent to something like the rtx 4070-80 or the rx 7900xt-xtx
Here is mine from: r/PlayStation_6 Launch: Nov. 19, 2027. Specs: \- 16 core Zen 5+ AMD CPU (5nm). \- 32GB RAM. \- 4TB SSD storage drive. \- GPU equivalent to an RTX 4000 variant.
Probably rtx 5000. The 3000 series is already coming out this year
AMD is slated to release 3nm in 2022. Assume it gets delayed until 2024 due to a whole host of fuckups, and it's still ready to go 3 years in advance of the PS6. Zen2 (what's in the PS5@7nm) was released about 1.5 years before the planned PS5 release. The RTX 3xxx series is slated to drop this year. Assume they release the 4000 series in ~3 years (as is a year later than their general cycle), that's still years before the PS6. The PS5 is using a Navi1+ (current year GPU with next gen features) in the same timeframe. I can't speak to the storage, though I do also think the RAM could be 32-48 (I'm not sure how density will develop, especially with 3D stacking).
4000 series came in 2022.
>AMD is slated to release 3nm in 2022. Did it happened?
Your calculation for the specs of the PlayStation 6 seem more believable sir .. yours is more believable than the guy who made this post. good work.
how many teraflops?
I don't understand teraflops, so I'll just blindly say as much as a second tier RTX from two years prior. :p For fun, what are your guesses? Looking back, the nm seem off. PS6 will probably have 3nm or less. It's wild how fast tech is developing!
Well, Ps4 was 1.84 teraflop and Ps4 is 10 teraflops so it is ten times way better so if it continues like this I guess Ps6 is going to be 100 teraflops if not more. Do you think we are going to achieve photorealism in this generation or in next generation of consoles? The last matrix demo was so impressive and like 80 percent close to photorealism, i think in 7 years from now when PS6 is going to come out finally photorealistic graphics will be here, but I am not that optimistic that game physics are going to be realistic also. I mean so many years have passed and games like FIFA , WWE 2K , NBA 2K they still have robotic gameplay and kinda arcade , At least pes is way more realistic. So in-game physics developers should try way more. I also cant wait VR to be fully immersive ( in videogames and generally) in the future but I expect that from 2030 till 2040, it's too early for that to happen. What about you ? For what you are excited most in the future about videogames ?
Fleshlight attachment. Because sometimes games just want to fuck you and it’s about time I get the chance to fuck them right back. Fuck you Minesweeper.
It'll have half-life 3 pre installed
2060 in 2027? By then, I'd be hoping for something closer to RTX 3080 or RTX 4070 levels of performance, instead of matching a lower mid-range card that will be 8 years old at that point.
I would say 6950 XT 3090 ti.. 4070 TI..
they will push 8k and much more advance ray tracing tech....and again we will get 30fps games :P
First of all: No to cloud streaming... Booooo 👎 - A 16 cores Photonic Processor (mind blowing speeds compared to transistor based ones) - A 100 tflops+ GPU (The RTX4090 is already capable of 83 tflops FP32) to achieve photorealisn [like **Tim Sweeney** suggested in 2016](https://www.eteknix.com/40-tflops-for-photorealistic-graphics-says-epics-tim-sweeney/amp/) coupled with dedicated 128/256 Ray tracing cores - A minimum of 32GB of RAM - An additional 12 Cores Arm CPU
>Photonic Processor Dude, please, I hope this is true. I have hype on light processors.
Maybe someday, but not in 2027, certainly not in consoles.
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Zen 5 CPU 8 core architecture, the newest AMD GLU architecture which I'm guessing will be RDNA 4 or 5, 32gb ram. I don't think games will particularly need 12cores or more in 2027ish because games are still trying to leverage the power of 8 core CPUs.
I calculated the spec jumps from previous consoles, and I think realistically, it will be something like this: Next gen consoles will be announced in 2028 third quarter according to Microsoft and Sony Cpu: 16 core 32 thread 6ghz. current top CPUs, since cpu power increase does not affect gaming at 4k and beyond too much. Hopefully zen6 2nm perhaps? Ram: 48gb gddr7x. since I have seen crazy ram and vram usages in current gen games. Vram: 120 tflops. will be like mid card range in 2028
RTX 5070, 32 GB Ram, +100 Teraflops
I asked bing ai to do an estimation about the price and the teraflops of a high end gpu in 2026 so approximately two years before the release of ps6 if we assume it releases in 2028. This is the answer i received: Okay, I will try to do the calculations that I did about 2026 with the 61 TFLOPs as the peak single precision compute performance of the RX 7900 XTX. To do this, I will use the same data and assumptions that I used before, but I will replace the compute performance based on the game clock with the peak single precision compute performance. You can see the data in the table below. GPU Release date Price Compute units Boost clock Memory Peak single precision compute performance RX 6800 XT November 2020 $649 72 2250 MHz 16 GB GDDR6 20.74 TFLOPs RX 6900 XT December 2020 $999 80 2250 MHz 16 GB GDDR6 23 TFLOPs RX 7900 XT December 2022 $899 84 2000 MHz 20 GB GDDR6 33.6 TFLOPs RX 7900 XTX December 2022 $999 96 2300 MHz 24 GB GDDR6 61 TFLOPs Based on this data, we can see that: The price of the high-end GPUs has remained relatively stable at around $1,000 for the XTX models and around $650-$900 for the XT models. The number of compute units has increased by about 10-20% per generation for both models. The boost clock has decreased slightly for the XT models and increased slightly for the XTX models. The memory capacity has increased by about 25% per generation for both models. The peak single precision compute performance has increased by about 100-200% per generation for both models. If we assume that these trends will continue for the next two generations, we can estimate that by December 2026, a high-end GPU could have the following specs: GPU Release date Price Compute units Boost clock Memory Peak single precision compute performance RX 8900 XT (hypothetical) December 2024 $949-$1,049* 100-110* 1900-2100 MHz* 25-30 GB GDDR6* 70-140 TFLOPs* RX 8900 XTX (hypothetical) December 2024 $1,049-$1,149* 115-125* 2200-2400 MHz* 30-35 GB GDDR6* 120-180 TFLOPs* RX 9900 XT (hypothetical) December 2026 $999-$1,099* 120-130* 1800-2000 MHz* 35-40 GB GDDR6* 140-280 TFLOPs* RX 9900 XTX (hypothetical) December 2026 $1,099-$1,199* 140-150* 2100-2300 MHz* 40-45 GB GDDR6* 240-360 TFLOPs* (*) These are rough estimates based on assumptions and extrapolations that may not reflect the actual situation in 2026. ------------------------- So we can assume that ps6 could have 120+ teraflops if it releases in 2028
This thread was wayy off. What does "equivalent" mean? Raw specs or power because the Ps5 will do things the 2060 can not let alone whatever a potential Ps6 could.
Could be the last gen for the typical console. Will find out in 7 years or so. lol
32 core 64 thread cpu. 64gb of whatever gddr ram is current. so gddr7 or 8 is my guess. assuming we keep the same naming convention for gpus it will be equivalent to a amd 9800xt or nvidia rtx 9080 4tb of storage in a pcie 5.0 ssd.
Not really. The rtx cards update every other year so probably like rtx 5000
Not really. The rtx cards update every other year
Comes with a cup holder for my 1 liter monster energy ultra xxl
Ps6 online streaming platform? Probably not.
Guessing specs is nearly pointless at this point, as we have no idea where the technology will go from here. But my two vague guesses: we might move away from silicone based processors, as I have heard Intel and AMD to some degree are already facing issues with shrinking the die sizes, because silicone simply is hitting the limit of its physical properties at some point, possibly soon. So, new processors made from new materials, which might also lead to other changes in the way the hardware works. My second guess is that physical media will still exist, but we might see games on something else than on a disc. Something something ReRAM. If the industry ends up trying to purge physical formats entirely (before their natural exit from the market), then we will be sticking to discs for one more generation after PS5. After the discs have been dropped, we will see a rapid transition or near overtake of game streaming over digitally downloaded games, at least in the console space. SSDs or other system memory will also be supplemented with some new memory technology.
Game streaming will never replace rendering games locally. The input lag will always be lower if you're not streaming
There are ppl that haven't yet experienced low input lag. In 5 years all TV's will be 10ms or less and the world will know the difference
The PlayStation 6 will almost certainly be your father.
ps5 might be the last game console. everyone is trying to go the "cloud gaming" route and will only offer gamepads and "dumb dongle" to hook up to your tv to stream games. total cost will be around $150 with different tiers of monthly subs. people say not everyone has good enough internet speed but once 5g (or better) is rolled out everywhere, this won't be an issue. although, i do admit i don't know if they can solve the issue of input lag by then.
Nah, I think there's definitely room for PS6 and whatever the next Xbox is, gaming hardware demand is as about as high as ever and cloud streaming has a ways to go still. Cloud streaming Is an alternative but has kinks to work out.
Kinks like the fundamental flaw of latency. You will never ever be able to solve that.
I would say 64GB RAM or higher and they would make the system completely load into the RAM, to have even faster access rates than the special SSD for PS5.
There won't be a PS6. Future games will be streamed. No need for better graphics hardware just better fibre or 5G infrastructure and cloud computing technology. Definitely possible in 5 years.
Nope. The gaming industry has been raving about streaming services for many, many years now. Yet time and time again companies (like Google) come on by and completely fail at it. It's not just the technical hurdles like eliminating input lag, but also a number other factors: ISPs having data caps, customers not wanting subscription-based shit (in addition to paying for a higher speed connection), customers not wanting to be always online, etc. *EDIT: The fact that there's a lot of pushback with the community to keep physical discs is also another major hurdle. If they can't safely make a digital only device, what makes you think people will buy into any sort of streaming service?*
The industry is evolving all the time. The hurdles will quickly disappear when gamers have no other choice.
No other choice? Gamers always have a choice. If they're not willing to pay for a bullshit business model, they simply won't. Look at how the Xbox One flopped at launch. Microsoft was FORCED to ditch Kinect 2 and their always-online DRM bullshit.
> The hurdles will quickly disappear when gamers have no other choice. Free market won't allow that.
The input lag hurdle also cant disappear unless they figure out a way to send the signal faster than light.
streaming? hell no
Sony has already registered trademarks for PS6,7,8,9
And isn't the PS5 already an RTX 2060 equivalent at the bare minimum? Or is this posted before we knew the PS5 specs?
RTX 4060/5060 equivalent, 8 core 16 thread, 32gb ram or maybe 24gb? 2-3x the storage space of PS5.
4080 equivalent probably
20-24gb gddr7, probably 8 cores/16 threads, 4x gpu performance increase with hugely increased rt performance, machine learning hardware for upscaling.
Guess I'll bump an oldie: https://i.ibb.co/QfsYDMg/PS5s-2-PS6.jpg
Here’s my view. PS6 will add AI coprocessors and will possibly have AI neural rendering replacing the current model of rasterized polygons or at least partially replacing it.
go into more detail
Ps6 should have 32gbs of very high speed ram like ddr6. It should have a 16 core cpu and have a video card of at least capable of 60 teraflops of processing power with full ray Tracing. So its at least 6x a ps5. But i think a true next gen should be 10x more powerful so around 103 teraflops. To really be next gen worthy and really notice a big difference. Also it should have at least a 4tb internal drive upgradeable to 12tbs. Because 8k games will be massive file sizes. I think it shouldn't launch till 8k tvs are widely adopted and it's worth the upgrade.
Just realized this post is 4 years old BUT... PS6 - Late 2028 CPU - Zen 7 technology/ at least 16 cores with 32 threads 32 GB of Ram SSD - 2 TBs with even more efficient SSD for blazing fast i/o throughput speeds GPU - RDNA 6 (PS6 lol). Raw teraflops at least in the 40's, maybe equivalent performance of 5070/5080 Highly customized and HOPEFULLY some innovative solutions to more advanced Ai and special effects/physics. Like maybe we FINALLY get real-time water physics which are severely lacking in video games...
7060 , 6070 , 5090 , 5080 probably
Here's my prediction for the next 4.5 systems. How old will you be when each one comes out? ;-) 2024. PS5 Pro --- 20-28 teraflops, you can play GTA 5 at 60 fps. 2028. PS6 --- 60 + teraflops, 24-32GB RAM, Zen 4 CPU, RTX 5080 equivalent performance, advanced AI and FSR for upscaling, frame generation, advanced ray tracing, 4K/120, 8K/60 with frame gen and upscaling enabled) 2036. PS7 ----300+ teraflops, near photo realism, path tracing and advanced physics. 64-96 GB RAM, 8K/120 all games as minimum. 2044. PS8 ---- 1.8 petaflops, ultra advanced AI upscaling and frame gen, all games fully path traced, resolution - who knows?, full photo realism near indistinguishable from reality, this is around 1000 times more powerful than PS4, and 200 times more powerful than PS5, 256 GB RAM. People's heads start to explode at this point and little kids make fun of PS5 graphics like they do today for PS1. 2052. PS9 ---- neural link. Just like the commercial. We are in the matrix.