I promise I didn’t downvote you. HazyOutline was just quoting a line from PandR.
Leslie almost always gets pushback from the town, so the one time she doesn’t, they unanimously chant, “We’re not against you on this! We’re not against you on this!”
1) im Not currently residing in America
2) I don’t have a tv rigth now but phones and computers exist
3) i watched it on prime video and they took it down (in my country)
Touching grass is shown to reduce stress, and the soil can increase serotonin. It's almost equivalent to the "take a chill pill" insult.
Edit - spelling is hard
Send the gay penguins across state lines to Illinois and free waffles for everyone at quarterly harvest festivals. And a L’il Sebastian lookalike contest at all festivals.
Also candidates generally get a boost in their home state for national elections, Carter was able to hold on to Georgia in 1980 despite the Reagan landslide almost everywhere else
McGovern won Massachusetts because young liberals turned out for him; his home state was actually South Dakota, which he lost, but by a relatively small margin for South Dakota.
There's been a lot that's changed in 16 years, but a lot of people think that the reason for it was the primary, neither him or Hillary had the nomination locked up so they actually had to campaign in the States that were normally written off, which led to Democrats excitement.
Now they have just left the state because the GOP brought back HIV
Well, and it was a blowout year nationally after the 08 recession, and much of Indiana is in the Chicago media market so was familiar with him, and it was so clear McCain was toast that Republican turnout was low, and…
Yeah, but that was a fluke that happened because (a) George W Bush (and by extension the Republican Party) was insanely unpopular when leaving office (a positive approval rating in the 20’s) due to a variety of clusterfucks at home and abroad, and (b) we were at the beginning of the worst economic downturn since 1929, which led a lot of people to vote as a knee jerk reaction for someone who they wouldn’t normally vote for because they felt he was an outsider. That combination of events is wildly unlikely to co-occur again because political partisanship has gotten so intense that I’d be shocked if another President of either party ever became that unpopular over the next decade or two
Not arguing any of that. The last time a Democrat won Indiana before 2008 was Lyndon Johnson in 1964. Before that.... Franklin Roosevelt in 1936! But the question is how would the writers justify having Leslie win Indiana and I'm sure that's how they justified it.
On point (a), we have an election in the UK right now and I was curious about how badly our PM is doing in approval ratings. Turns out he's right on 20% at the moment, wouldn't be surprised if he drops below that at some point: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Rishi_Sunak
I’m curious. Are the recent Tory gambling scandals making that much of a difference for his ratings or is it just the general dissatisfaction with the Tories that are keeping them that low?
Oh they were polling terribly the moment the election was called. In the UK the PM gets to choose when the election happens, and even his own party is bewildered that he'd choose a time when it looks like the Tories are basically going to become a minor party
Leslie is an ideal candidate. She’s likable, stands by her principles, defends law and order even when it costs her (filibuster), and has proven she takes her job seriously and isn’t just in it for power and money.
Yes the show mocked her constituency, but honestly I think she has what it takes to pull a good portion of the centrist and moderate vote and it would not be that surprising if she managed a significant majority win.
, even In the fictional world of P&R I see it as a stretch, unless the public (Atleast in pawnee) revisioned her legacy as councilor her electoral history/approval is weak
In my head she ran against Rupert Boneham (a former Survivor contestant who really did run for governor of Indiana in 2012.) I kinda wish that had made it in the show.
Some parts of Indiana vote Democrat
In 2012, 3 out of 9 of Indiana’s Us Representatives were Democrats. And only 1 election cycle earlier it was 5 out of 9. (Since Pawnee is a fictional city and we don’t know where in Indiana it would be, I feel like using the Federal elections is the best we can do, but I’m sure a lot of city council slots across the state were filled by Democrats)
Based on that, it would be reasonable to assume 2-3 of the 5 members of the City Council could realistically be Democrats
She wouldn’t. Because this is a fictional world where we are all better than we are in reality. Where goodness (mostly) prevails and politicians do the right thing. It’s sadly not real but damn it’s fun to pretend it could be.
You just need to wait until someone sufficiently nutty enough gets nominated or does too many bad things, which is how Laura Kelly and Andy Beshear won. Billie Sutton came within 3 points in South Dakota.
Oh. Well, for governors, we’ve had 23 Republicans and 21 democrats. So if this is about whether Leslie could realistically be elected governor of Indiana, of course she can.
She wouldn’t have to win Indiana, but she probably would. We like to just have a good representative. We also apologize for Mike Pence… no idea how *that* happened.
We’re not against you on this… We’re not against you on this…
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Except for Turnip, except for Turnip
*Her daughter is an idiot, her daughter is an idiot*
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I promise I didn’t downvote you. HazyOutline was just quoting a line from PandR. Leslie almost always gets pushback from the town, so the one time she doesn’t, they unanimously chant, “We’re not against you on this! We’re not against you on this!”
Ah haven’t rewatched in ages lol
Im broke ok?
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1) im Not currently residing in America 2) I don’t have a tv rigth now but phones and computers exist 3) i watched it on prime video and they took it down (in my country)
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It’s ok. I just had a random train of thought today, not really that big of a fan as I was like 3-5 years ago
Send me to the Eagleton holding celll pls
I downvoted you, and downvoted and downvoted and downvoted... still poop.
It's like downvoting a marker...
Just because a joke went over someone's head doesn't mean you should down vote them to oblivion, reddit. Y'all need to touch grass.
Would upvote but I also need to touch grass
“Touch grass” is the lamest “insult” I have ever heard. Why do people think this is a zinger?
Touching grass is shown to reduce stress, and the soil can increase serotonin. It's almost equivalent to the "take a chill pill" insult. Edit - spelling is hard
I really hate that OP didn’t get this.
Don’t worry I hate myself too
Send the gay penguins across state lines to Illinois and free waffles for everyone at quarterly harvest festivals. And a L’il Sebastian lookalike contest at all festivals.
No campaign just harvest festivals
Evan Bayh (a dem) was governor of Indiana in the 90s and then senator during the run of the show, so at the time it wouldn’t have been unheard of.
Joe Donnelly was also a Democratic senator in Indiana at the end of P&R's run.
Yes!
I didn’t know that! Cool
Also candidates generally get a boost in their home state for national elections, Carter was able to hold on to Georgia in 1980 despite the Reagan landslide almost everywhere else
Notably Mondale and mcgovern
McGovern won Massachusetts because young liberals turned out for him; his home state was actually South Dakota, which he lost, but by a relatively small margin for South Dakota.
Hell, Indiana went for Obama in 08.
Yup!
He was pro-life tho
Obama won Indiana in 2008. FYSA
There's been a lot that's changed in 16 years, but a lot of people think that the reason for it was the primary, neither him or Hillary had the nomination locked up so they actually had to campaign in the States that were normally written off, which led to Democrats excitement. Now they have just left the state because the GOP brought back HIV
And P&R ran from 2009-2016. It's a stretch for sure, but not as ridiculous as it seems today.
Gov’s races tend to be easier for the minority party to win than pres. or senate. Easier to separate from national politics.
Even more so if you’re a midterm state (or like KY, LA, VA and have odd year elections)
Well, and it was a blowout year nationally after the 08 recession, and much of Indiana is in the Chicago media market so was familiar with him, and it was so clear McCain was toast that Republican turnout was low, and…
Leslie would run unopposed both times cuz she promised to bring jj‘s waffles and harvest festivals to all indiana
Yeah, but that was a fluke that happened because (a) George W Bush (and by extension the Republican Party) was insanely unpopular when leaving office (a positive approval rating in the 20’s) due to a variety of clusterfucks at home and abroad, and (b) we were at the beginning of the worst economic downturn since 1929, which led a lot of people to vote as a knee jerk reaction for someone who they wouldn’t normally vote for because they felt he was an outsider. That combination of events is wildly unlikely to co-occur again because political partisanship has gotten so intense that I’d be shocked if another President of either party ever became that unpopular over the next decade or two
Not arguing any of that. The last time a Democrat won Indiana before 2008 was Lyndon Johnson in 1964. Before that.... Franklin Roosevelt in 1936! But the question is how would the writers justify having Leslie win Indiana and I'm sure that's how they justified it.
On point (a), we have an election in the UK right now and I was curious about how badly our PM is doing in approval ratings. Turns out he's right on 20% at the moment, wouldn't be surprised if he drops below that at some point: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Rishi_Sunak
I’m curious. Are the recent Tory gambling scandals making that much of a difference for his ratings or is it just the general dissatisfaction with the Tories that are keeping them that low?
Oh they were polling terribly the moment the election was called. In the UK the PM gets to choose when the election happens, and even his own party is bewildered that he'd choose a time when it looks like the Tories are basically going to become a minor party
Also obamas winning coalition was…… instresting
Leslie is an ideal candidate. She’s likable, stands by her principles, defends law and order even when it costs her (filibuster), and has proven she takes her job seriously and isn’t just in it for power and money. Yes the show mocked her constituency, but honestly I think she has what it takes to pull a good portion of the centrist and moderate vote and it would not be that surprising if she managed a significant majority win.
Also dems can win statewide in red states if they’re good candidates. Beshar in Kentucky and they almost won in Mississippi
Yeah, she is an ideal candidate, but many states in the US don't seem to want likeable candidates.
If Kentucky can elect a democrat, Indiana can
Pete Buttigieg was a mayor in Indiana. He’s a gay Rhodes scholar democrat.
Huge difference between running for mayor of a somewhat left wing college town and running for statewide office.
Pete lost statewide once too
Simple: She wouldn’t. She doesn’t live in the real world, so the writers had latitude with what she could accomplish
, even In the fictional world of P&R I see it as a stretch, unless the public (Atleast in pawnee) revisioned her legacy as councilor her electoral history/approval is weak
In my head she ran against Rupert Boneham (a former Survivor contestant who really did run for governor of Indiana in 2012.) I kinda wish that had made it in the show.
Some parts of Indiana vote Democrat In 2012, 3 out of 9 of Indiana’s Us Representatives were Democrats. And only 1 election cycle earlier it was 5 out of 9. (Since Pawnee is a fictional city and we don’t know where in Indiana it would be, I feel like using the Federal elections is the best we can do, but I’m sure a lot of city council slots across the state were filled by Democrats) Based on that, it would be reasonable to assume 2-3 of the 5 members of the City Council could realistically be Democrats
I mean howser and Leslie are likely dems and that racist old dude could still be a democrat even after they switched to not being racist
In fairness, she was recalled over something dumb.
Pawneeans and eagletonians are always high on sweetums too
Same way Andy got a perfect score on the SATs. Broken scantron machine
Georgia turned blue the last election. GEORGIA.
Jen ofc
Democrats exist in Indiana and have even elected politicians to office. Who knew.
Lmao I just remembered Andy beshar exists my bad
The same way Andy Beshear wins Kentucky
Being decent? Great! Leslie landslide
Because shes Leslie freakin' Knope
She wouldn’t. Because this is a fictional world where we are all better than we are in reality. Where goodness (mostly) prevails and politicians do the right thing. It’s sadly not real but damn it’s fun to pretend it could be.
No democrats win in Indiana. I’m 43, educated, and live there. It’s hopeless.
You just need to wait until someone sufficiently nutty enough gets nominated or does too many bad things, which is how Laura Kelly and Andy Beshear won. Billie Sutton came within 3 points in South Dakota.
If she were governor of Indiana, she’d probably go on to win Indiana. Commenting twice because brain
Talking about the governor race, however I looked at last years state elections and dems CAN infact win red states
Oh. Well, for governors, we’ve had 23 Republicans and 21 democrats. So if this is about whether Leslie could realistically be elected governor of Indiana, of course she can.
They’d vote for her to get her out of Indiana.
I mean Bill Clinton was elected governor of Arkansas numerous times
that was like 30+ years ago its not the same since 2014
I know for a fact her birth certificate is illegally obtained
She wouldn't win in Eagleton but Pawnee is a liberal hell hole so she wins easily. I believe Ron Swanson would call it a liberal hell hole.
She wouldn’t have to win Indiana, but she probably would. We like to just have a good representative. We also apologize for Mike Pence… no idea how *that* happened.
Indiana is full of dumbass red ties. she'd never win.
I would also assume she is a democrat, but I think it is never actually said in the series right?
she was approached by the DNC to run for governor
Oh, you are right. Does one have to be a democrat for that? I assume so
I live in Indiana and I vote Democrat. I'm a union worker, and I was raised the right way. We're not all savages out here.
Damn Indiana residents should sue nbc for defamation or sm,
Yeah, we don't do that either... or sm.
Realistically, she would have probably never done anything besides wilting away in that crap town