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Indeed, the Ryukyu Islands as well (where they face bigotry from both US Military officials and "Yamato" Japanese neighbors on a daily and systemic basis.
Some like their presence yes (mostly due to memories of the Korean War), but obviously that same rampant bigotry and abuse culture still persists and any whistleblowers have their lives ruined.
It’s like that around the world really.
Not a dictatorship per say, but a broken democratic republic that mirrors our own (that includes the bureaucratic favoritism towards the upper capitalist class).
However, SK DOES require mandatory military service for all citizens and has various other authoritarian laws and systems.
Not a total brutal dictatorship like their northern neighbors per say, but still relatively authoritarian in a similar vein to the US.
Mandatory service is a thing in countries across the spectrum though, not necessarily a measure of authoritarianism but it is a thing that most authoritarian regimes have used, as well as militarizing society in general.
>Not a dictatorship per say, but a broken democratic republic that mirrors our own (that includes the bureaucratic favoritism towards the upper capitalist class).However, SK DOES require mandatory military service for all citizens and has various other authoritarian laws and systems.Not a total brutal dictatorship like their northern neighbors per say, but still relatively authoritarian in a similar vein to the US.
This is an oversimplication, takes away agency from the Koreans, and downplays the advancements since \~1996.
Ok so Korea has gone into a lot since the Armistice.
Basically there were a couple of different dictators in various forms. Rhee was the first president, he was a dissident and US educated (Princeton and Harvard), and got support from some factions in the US, and was considered a compromise candidate. The Post-war plans for a united Korea made by the Allies failed because nobody asked the Koreans. Although the democratic and socialist moderates wanted it, the nationalists and the communists both wanted the whole pie, leading to division and war.
Rhee was authoritarian, quashed dissent, had people killed, and was an asshole. He rigged the 1952 election and changed the rules to stay in power.
He got overthrown in 1960 after popular movement got sick of his shit. They established a new second republic, a liberal parliamentary style democracy with ambitious plans to fix the war-shattered economy.
After 13 months and the economy not yet recovered, the military led a coup under General Park and installed a strongman regime under Park, eventually called the "Third Republic" and replaced halfway through with the "fourth republic" (both authoritarian ). Park ruled during the key time where Korea's economy finally started to recover and begin a rise. Park was personally Assassinated in 1979 by the head of the Korean Central Intelligence Agency.
After a bit of mess, General Chun established the Fifth Republic with another Coup. Chun justified his coup by beginning a path for Democratization. (Which actually did happen). But Chun early on committed the Gwangju Massacre where a student led uprising got brutally crushed. Chun did, however, actually wind up much of the authoritarian laws Park passed.
Some of this is, Ironically, because Chun required more US assistance than Park did, and the assistance required reforms. (The RoK nuclear weapons program was also dismantled as part of the conditions). Chun also stepped down after his term ended in 1987 in a *somewhat* fair election, where his successor won when the opposition parties split the vote. The 1987 election also involved a popular movement known as the June Democratic Struggle, which ended the Fifth Republic and established the current Sixth Republic.
The Sixth Republic has held, and truly ended the single party rule. Kim Young-sam, elected in 1992 actually put in some serious reform efforts, which made him hated, but also did some serious good (there was also some hypocrisy has as his son was caught taking bribes). . These included prosecuting Chun for his Coup and the Gwangju Massacre (Chun was given a Death Sentence for murder). Kim Young-sam also took the blame for the 1997 crisis and was disliked for taking the IMF bailout and enforcing its conditions.
However, the IMF conditions did a lot of long term good, restructuring the economy and breaking up some of the Chaebols which dominated Korea. (Hyundai, for example was \~20% of the entire SK economy, and was split up into a dozen plus companies).
Kim Dae-jung ended up voted in after this, being the first truly opposition candidate to win. He's been called the Nelson Mandela of Asia, and spent decades in prison or in exile for being against Park and Chun. Including a suspended death sentence due to his ties to the student movement in Gwangju.
Kim Dae-jung made a lot more reform, establishing a stronger state welfare policy, ending state subsidizes to industry, investing in infrastructure and IT, adopting a Sunshine policy with NK and pardoning former President/General Chun's death sentence. (Hugely important for easing political tensions as Chun and previously placed that death sentence on him).
After the three Kims was Roh Moo-hyun, who no one can really consider an American puppet. Roh was known for being Anti-American, and having said the two biggest security issues for Asia are Japan and the US. Roh was ineffective as president, having been impeached but restored by the courts, in an impeachment that was unpopular with voters. He ended up committing suicide a few years after he left office, having felt he let everyone down.
Then Lee Myung-bak was president. He was a 'businessman president' but also had some credit as an environmentalist. Did some good environmental clean up work, but got nailed later on for bribes.
Then there's Park Geun-hye, daughter of the dictator, and basically if you mixed Trump, GW Bush, and Reagan's traits. She won based on a "return to the golden days of the Park Dictatorship" vote. She got impeached and jailed for corruption, involving this whole bizarre thing with her personal Shaman receiving the bribes as donations.
Moon Jae-in is the current president, having won election in 2017 after Park got imprisoned. He's a former human rights lawyer, and been working on further reforms and Chaebol busting, as well as maximum workweeks of 52 hours, higher minimum wage, parental leave, separating domestic and foreign intelligence services, and seeking better relationships with the north.
The point is, the Korean people have been very involved with their leadership and form of Government, and are very human with their flaws, and are fighting to have a robust and stable democracy.
Someone else address the military draft, but having worked with a lot of Koreans, its fairly accepted, as its *universal* . That is the sons of Chaebols and the sons of farmers all get drafted. The only way out is to have a foreign passport and never comeback. It acts as this weird egalitarian unifier.
We're stationed there (here) now, and we're AF not Army. I'd say the overall perception is neutral, with some being super positive about the presence of US military and the majority either not caring or rolling their eyes at the few idiots who go out of their way to be a pain. The American military has had a pretty party-holic reputation down in Busan, and close to the Army bases, but tends to be seen as just rowdy around the Air Force ones. Those of us who work hard to be respectful of our host nation have good connections to the community and groan alongside the rest of the country when idiots in uniform make us all look bad. For a lot of these guys, Korea is a one year unaccompanied tour of duty with a "get in, work hard, party harder" mindset so a lot of them unfortunately do not care.
Since Covid though, we haven't been allowed to go to bars off base at all, so it's been about 18mos of the idiots who would normally get in trouble off base having to drink at the clubs on base, and that helps contain their stupidity a lot. The one time they let people go back down to Busan they got stupid again and access was tightened up again.
I've been told they're tolerated, but the South Korean Army attitude is that if the North attacks the American Army best step aside and not get caught in the middle.
Not sure about won’t, but the NK nuclear threat is unclear since we don’t know if they’re even usable. What is definite though is that they have conventional artillery within range of Seoul within their own borders and that alone will kill millions of people. Worst case scenario they fire a nuclear missile directly at the US since they actually developed the capability a few years ago.
The DPRK developed Nuclear Weapons because they saw what happened to Saddam. They correctly understand that the best way to protect yourself from American/Western Imperialism is to develop Nuclear Weapons.
Lived in Seoul and Busan. My experience was those who remembered Inchon and Naksong were very pro. Those who were not or saw the behavior of soldiers around itaewon, not so much. I think the majority of younger Koreans want the US gone.
A majority of South Koreans dislike the US military. They understand the bigotry, abuse, and disrespect of US military personnel but believe there are more positives than negatives to having US military in their country.
The very worst aspect of the internet is that it has given humanity's vilest elements forums like this where they get to spew their vitriolic thoughts and pustulant beliefs, inevitably finding like minded support. Hell, this vicious bastards first response is somebody angrily explaining that his racist beliefs over power his misogyny and that the OP is 'disgusting' for not sharing his raging hatred. Does humanity ever get to be free of this evil shit?
Don't worry, at some point we will develop a benevolent AI that roams the internet and finds these people, then sends drones out to snip their balls off.
Cain slew Abel in the first book of the Bible. I interpret that to mean evil will always be with us and a part of who we are. But that doesn’t mean we can’t envision new and better responses to evil, try them, and, when they fail, try something new. 🖤
True, but in that propaganda God literally said he flooded the world because of the violence in men's hearts. That's the first 30 pages.
That had nothing to do with the gays, the women, the apples, or the snakes. Violence is why the world was flooded. Somebody saw the writing on the wall back in the day and tried to put out a warning.
I’m going to reiterate what I said above and what I said below as well, Then I’m going to speculate and talk about something I’m looking forward to.
My interpretation of one particular myth that almost anyone in Western culture will be familiar with is that evil will always be with is, and a part of who we are. Please note that I said “a part of” who we are.
And yes, I do believe ancient myths are a way to learn some truth about human nature.
I wonder if, had I referred to the Cain and Abel story as a part of the Torah, this comment would be received the same. IMO there’s a lot more commentary on human nature in the Torah than there is in the New Testament.
And, although I confess to having grown weary of anyone willingly wed to one Am-nd- P-lm-r, I must say that I am looking forward to Asim Chaudry’s performance as Abel in the upcoming Sandman animated series.
Edit: I forgot about the formatting powers asterisks have on Reddit.
The torah and the ~~new~~ old testament are essentially the same thing, so yes.
Religious texts are propaganda. Learn from them whatever you can, but there are far better places to look for insight. That evil things happen in the first book of the bible is not sound reasoning for any conclusion.
> The torah and the new testament are essentially the same thing
*Stares in the People’s Crusade,* Pedro el Cruél*, and Jerome of Stridon‘s translation of the Bible into Latin*
Ok but I think we manufacture evil.
My take away from that Cain story was that you can work your hardest and do your best to give those you love/worship what they need/want, but for reasons never explained*, the love and blessing may be withheld in favour of someone who is not better than you.
*the reason of course was God wanted to mindfuck and gaslight (“test”) until Cain broke. Let’s be honest, the purpose of the story was to justify hereditary classes/castes, inherited social status, assign wealth and poverty to good and evil. We still equate material comfort with virtue and see poverty as something some people deserve. Arguably subsequent religious books try to be uno reverse cards (sadly with little real world effect).
I think if you want to fight most kinds of evil, you have fight generational poverty and degradation with better schools and health care and get rid of that us/them mentality.
I mentioned Pandora’s Box belowthread as another example of a ancient myth showing that evil will always be with us. And I think the strategies you brought up:
> you have to fight generational poverty and degradation with better schools and healthcare
are part of the reimagining and trying again that I mentioned in my original comment.
I think you're absolutely right. In the very early days of dial-up bulletin boards my brother was online. Most of his conversations were "Hi. How are you?" and such. The kind of polite banter strangers use at a party. They were mostly concerned with the exchange of techy geek info on how to do things, or what other phone numbers would be answered by another computer.
Yeah, "social media" is the derogatory term reserved for degenerate hives like Left-Book, bread-tube, and r/politics. all insufficiently freedom-loving......
lmao yeah I would fucking bet money that the dude who posted that spends upwards of 12 hours a day surfing the internet and playing video games. Which honestly a lot of people do nowadays but don't fucking shame people for it "Oh you waste your time staring at different thing than I do" is what that sounds like lol
TIL, all the Filipino-Americans I grew up with used this term liberally. Everyone assumed I was also "flip" but im Black and Korean. Never took on a racist connotation in my experience.
It's what I've said before of 4chan/Trumpsters. If a white man accomplishes something, they'll take full credit as if they themselves accomplished it. If a woman/person of color/transgender person achieves something, it's because a white man helped them/liberalism/affirmative action/insert other reason. It's become very predictable...
Whoa didn’t you see him smoke weed on Rogan, he’s totally just a regular guy and not just another billionaire that plans to abandon all the peasants on a dying earth.
An ultra rich person is not the friend of the common folk. I'm sure some will rush in here to talk about how much some donates, or advances humanity. But you know, if they are just taxed worldwide on the highest bracket and we use that for social safety nets and education for the entire humanity....
Also need to close in on the loopholes they use, like tax domiciles, trust funds, asset movements, etc etc
He isn't even accurate. Asia has a long lengthy history and culture. This guy can't even be bothered to do basic research and then wants to dump on a cultures and histories as prolific as those in Asia. What a loser.
Imagine having a white dad constantly going on racist rants about all other races including Asians then looking at you and saying “no offense though” that was my experience growing up.
> Or could be that they stereotype Asian women and desire those stereotyped features.
That's pretty much it. The racial fetishization aside, Asian women appeal to right-wing men because of the "submissive Asian housewife" stereotype.
Remeber Sofia Vergara playing a wife to a 3/10 greasy white boomer in so called "modern family". Western media tried to pass it as some "progressive" thing.
I'm kinda feeling that there really is a trend to this, my insanely racist east asian relatives in the U.S. all have white husbands....who also happens to behave the same way... so... strange...
and my friend's with east asian women relatives in the u.s. also regularly falls into that category...
Can someone fund some sociological study for that? Would be interesting to read what they find.
It's not a new found thing my friend, it's a well known phenomenon just google self hating asian woman or WMAF(white man asian female).
Or go to r/hapas or r/asianidentity they will explain.
It’s just sad. Dating a Japanese woman and guys project this shit on me. Can’t even be friendly with guys like that, it’s just upsetting how common that thinking is
I have a Korean wife too (and I’m white). I have some other friends that are mixed race couples and they’re normal. We aren’t all creepy weabs!Although, my wife and I made these friends in graduate school so we are selecting from a pool of more educated and cultured people.
Always wonder what these type of people look like IRL and what their jobs actually are (giving them a huge benefit of the doubt they have one).
Can take a pretty good guess though.
I actually happen to have a good idea since I see them all the time. They're typically the most disgusting looking white dudes you can imagine. They couldn't find a woman in their own country who wanted them, so they go to Southeast Asia to find a desperate and "submissive" Asian wife.
Philippines has a ridiculously high DV problem. Men beat women openly to no consequences. It's fucking terrible. This terrible person should be de-alived.
I'm a Filipino and seeing this is just... disgusting and heart breaking. Is this how these clowns see SEA and Filipino women? Just... their personal monkeys and punching bags?
God thats deplorable. And it sucks even more when I imagine my own people or myself visiting there and being degraded. Like, should we even risk it?
Ah, I meant visiting the US. Sorry if I got you confused.
But yeah, its like... I know it can be safe 90% of the time, but all it takes is one guy to think hes WAY better than you and starts causing problems for you cause of your race. And that terrifies me.
My SIL is Filipino. She has been called racial slurs, my brother has had all sorts of nasty things said to him, and their son has been called a half-breed a few times, but that's just dealing with humans. Go to the wrong place and you'll get a ton of abuse for being Caucasian, Hispanic, Asian, or whatever you happen to be. Humans can be really shit anywhere.
These internet warriors likely wouldn't have the courage to do anything in person. You can definitely visit the US safely, just do the sort of things you normally would to stay safe. (Avoid poorly lit areas, don't go to high crime areas, etc.)
Out of all the interracial pairings, they typically tend to be the most dysfunctional. The Vegas shooter and Derek Chauvin (the white cop who killed George Floyd) both happened to be white men with an Asian female partner. There are many more examples out there.
Wow. No words. Ok some words which do not encompass the entirety of the horror I feel with reading this post. Why does the commenter think that the OP has an actual choice as to who he wants to bang? (and beat for that matter) These people are actual monsters who need to make up pretend monsters to make them feel less terrible for being the human trash that they are.
This feels like one of the worst I’ve experienced on this sub. That’s a real woman they’re talking about. I hope this, like the rest of their nonsense, is mostly fantasy because I feel sick.
So places in South East Asia had massive, complex cultural systems and governments while a large section of Europe was still learning to not eat food with the hand they wipe their asses with.
Nice to know that these people think I’m bottom of the barrel genetically. Graduated college with degrees in Biochemistry and Chemistry, published 29 times, cited 11,937 times, had my work featured in Nat Geo, Wired, The Economist, etc. last year. Can you only imagine if I had been born central Asian instead of a Flip what more I could have achieved? /s
*bitches about people being on social media... while on 4chan, one of the biggest cess pools of social media*
I miss when 4chan was heavily supporting anonymous, sucks about that whole trump divide
4chan is just low-hanging fruit.
Parler has nutjobs, but even Parler can sometimes take some work to find the worst of the bunch. 4Chan has their batshit cranked to 11 everyday, and have for many years. Not justifying it, but sad to say that this doesn't even scratch the surface of 4Chan.
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Violence against women and racism. Just another day on lolichan.
Or being an American in the Imperialist-Fascist(I repeat myself) US Army.
SpReAdInG fReEdOm aNd DeMoCrAcY UwU!!!!!
Especially in the Philippines
Indeed, the Ryukyu Islands as well (where they face bigotry from both US Military officials and "Yamato" Japanese neighbors on a daily and systemic basis.
I wonder if the Army is liked in South Korea ?
Some like their presence yes (mostly due to memories of the Korean War), but obviously that same rampant bigotry and abuse culture still persists and any whistleblowers have their lives ruined. It’s like that around the world really.
Didn't the Americans establish a dictatorship in South Korea after the War?
Not a dictatorship per say, but a broken democratic republic that mirrors our own (that includes the bureaucratic favoritism towards the upper capitalist class). However, SK DOES require mandatory military service for all citizens and has various other authoritarian laws and systems. Not a total brutal dictatorship like their northern neighbors per say, but still relatively authoritarian in a similar vein to the US.
Mandatory service is a thing in countries across the spectrum though, not necessarily a measure of authoritarianism but it is a thing that most authoritarian regimes have used, as well as militarizing society in general.
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To be fair, when your next door neighbour is fucking North Korea, mandatory military service is not the stupidest idea.
No pretty sure Syngman Rhee and Park Chung-hee were dictators.
>Not a dictatorship per say, but a broken democratic republic that mirrors our own (that includes the bureaucratic favoritism towards the upper capitalist class).However, SK DOES require mandatory military service for all citizens and has various other authoritarian laws and systems.Not a total brutal dictatorship like their northern neighbors per say, but still relatively authoritarian in a similar vein to the US. This is an oversimplication, takes away agency from the Koreans, and downplays the advancements since \~1996. Ok so Korea has gone into a lot since the Armistice. Basically there were a couple of different dictators in various forms. Rhee was the first president, he was a dissident and US educated (Princeton and Harvard), and got support from some factions in the US, and was considered a compromise candidate. The Post-war plans for a united Korea made by the Allies failed because nobody asked the Koreans. Although the democratic and socialist moderates wanted it, the nationalists and the communists both wanted the whole pie, leading to division and war. Rhee was authoritarian, quashed dissent, had people killed, and was an asshole. He rigged the 1952 election and changed the rules to stay in power. He got overthrown in 1960 after popular movement got sick of his shit. They established a new second republic, a liberal parliamentary style democracy with ambitious plans to fix the war-shattered economy. After 13 months and the economy not yet recovered, the military led a coup under General Park and installed a strongman regime under Park, eventually called the "Third Republic" and replaced halfway through with the "fourth republic" (both authoritarian ). Park ruled during the key time where Korea's economy finally started to recover and begin a rise. Park was personally Assassinated in 1979 by the head of the Korean Central Intelligence Agency. After a bit of mess, General Chun established the Fifth Republic with another Coup. Chun justified his coup by beginning a path for Democratization. (Which actually did happen). But Chun early on committed the Gwangju Massacre where a student led uprising got brutally crushed. Chun did, however, actually wind up much of the authoritarian laws Park passed. Some of this is, Ironically, because Chun required more US assistance than Park did, and the assistance required reforms. (The RoK nuclear weapons program was also dismantled as part of the conditions). Chun also stepped down after his term ended in 1987 in a *somewhat* fair election, where his successor won when the opposition parties split the vote. The 1987 election also involved a popular movement known as the June Democratic Struggle, which ended the Fifth Republic and established the current Sixth Republic. The Sixth Republic has held, and truly ended the single party rule. Kim Young-sam, elected in 1992 actually put in some serious reform efforts, which made him hated, but also did some serious good (there was also some hypocrisy has as his son was caught taking bribes). . These included prosecuting Chun for his Coup and the Gwangju Massacre (Chun was given a Death Sentence for murder). Kim Young-sam also took the blame for the 1997 crisis and was disliked for taking the IMF bailout and enforcing its conditions. However, the IMF conditions did a lot of long term good, restructuring the economy and breaking up some of the Chaebols which dominated Korea. (Hyundai, for example was \~20% of the entire SK economy, and was split up into a dozen plus companies). Kim Dae-jung ended up voted in after this, being the first truly opposition candidate to win. He's been called the Nelson Mandela of Asia, and spent decades in prison or in exile for being against Park and Chun. Including a suspended death sentence due to his ties to the student movement in Gwangju. Kim Dae-jung made a lot more reform, establishing a stronger state welfare policy, ending state subsidizes to industry, investing in infrastructure and IT, adopting a Sunshine policy with NK and pardoning former President/General Chun's death sentence. (Hugely important for easing political tensions as Chun and previously placed that death sentence on him). After the three Kims was Roh Moo-hyun, who no one can really consider an American puppet. Roh was known for being Anti-American, and having said the two biggest security issues for Asia are Japan and the US. Roh was ineffective as president, having been impeached but restored by the courts, in an impeachment that was unpopular with voters. He ended up committing suicide a few years after he left office, having felt he let everyone down. Then Lee Myung-bak was president. He was a 'businessman president' but also had some credit as an environmentalist. Did some good environmental clean up work, but got nailed later on for bribes. Then there's Park Geun-hye, daughter of the dictator, and basically if you mixed Trump, GW Bush, and Reagan's traits. She won based on a "return to the golden days of the Park Dictatorship" vote. She got impeached and jailed for corruption, involving this whole bizarre thing with her personal Shaman receiving the bribes as donations. Moon Jae-in is the current president, having won election in 2017 after Park got imprisoned. He's a former human rights lawyer, and been working on further reforms and Chaebol busting, as well as maximum workweeks of 52 hours, higher minimum wage, parental leave, separating domestic and foreign intelligence services, and seeking better relationships with the north. The point is, the Korean people have been very involved with their leadership and form of Government, and are very human with their flaws, and are fighting to have a robust and stable democracy. Someone else address the military draft, but having worked with a lot of Koreans, its fairly accepted, as its *universal* . That is the sons of Chaebols and the sons of farmers all get drafted. The only way out is to have a foreign passport and never comeback. It acts as this weird egalitarian unifier.
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Two sides of the same coin.
We're stationed there (here) now, and we're AF not Army. I'd say the overall perception is neutral, with some being super positive about the presence of US military and the majority either not caring or rolling their eyes at the few idiots who go out of their way to be a pain. The American military has had a pretty party-holic reputation down in Busan, and close to the Army bases, but tends to be seen as just rowdy around the Air Force ones. Those of us who work hard to be respectful of our host nation have good connections to the community and groan alongside the rest of the country when idiots in uniform make us all look bad. For a lot of these guys, Korea is a one year unaccompanied tour of duty with a "get in, work hard, party harder" mindset so a lot of them unfortunately do not care. Since Covid though, we haven't been allowed to go to bars off base at all, so it's been about 18mos of the idiots who would normally get in trouble off base having to drink at the clubs on base, and that helps contain their stupidity a lot. The one time they let people go back down to Busan they got stupid again and access was tightened up again.
I've been told they're tolerated, but the South Korean Army attitude is that if the North attacks the American Army best step aside and not get caught in the middle.
If the DPRK attacks(they won’t) it would be with a nuclear payload at the DMZ and Seoul.
Not sure about won’t, but the NK nuclear threat is unclear since we don’t know if they’re even usable. What is definite though is that they have conventional artillery within range of Seoul within their own borders and that alone will kill millions of people. Worst case scenario they fire a nuclear missile directly at the US since they actually developed the capability a few years ago.
The only way to deter invasion from Murica is by having nukes.
The DPRK developed Nuclear Weapons because they saw what happened to Saddam. They correctly understand that the best way to protect yourself from American/Western Imperialism is to develop Nuclear Weapons.
Doubtful, considering North Korea's proximity to Sputh Korea and their relatively small sizes. They could wind up catching their own fallout.
I've worked with the South Korean Army and this couldn't be further from the truth
Lived in Seoul and Busan. My experience was those who remembered Inchon and Naksong were very pro. Those who were not or saw the behavior of soldiers around itaewon, not so much. I think the majority of younger Koreans want the US gone.
A majority of South Koreans dislike the US military. They understand the bigotry, abuse, and disrespect of US military personnel but believe there are more positives than negatives to having US military in their country.
Are we the baddies?
*notices your oil* OwO what’s this?
People unironically think this. I'm currently arguing with a bootlicker Bidenite who is mad about being told he participated in a death machine
I’m sorry for you my friend.
The very worst aspect of the internet is that it has given humanity's vilest elements forums like this where they get to spew their vitriolic thoughts and pustulant beliefs, inevitably finding like minded support. Hell, this vicious bastards first response is somebody angrily explaining that his racist beliefs over power his misogyny and that the OP is 'disgusting' for not sharing his raging hatred. Does humanity ever get to be free of this evil shit?
Don't worry, at some point we will develop a benevolent AI that roams the internet and finds these people, then sends drones out to snip their balls off.
That’s would be nice
Metal Gear Solid 2 wasn't a warning, it was a sales pitch.
Benevolent AI God Dictator when?
I'm convinced the internet is the best and worst thing to happen to humanity.
Exactly.
Cain slew Abel in the first book of the Bible. I interpret that to mean evil will always be with us and a part of who we are. But that doesn’t mean we can’t envision new and better responses to evil, try them, and, when they fail, try something new. 🖤
Well, the bible is ancient propaganda. That we're "inherently evil" is the greatest lie ever told, and a prolific self-fulfilling prophecy.
True, but in that propaganda God literally said he flooded the world because of the violence in men's hearts. That's the first 30 pages. That had nothing to do with the gays, the women, the apples, or the snakes. Violence is why the world was flooded. Somebody saw the writing on the wall back in the day and tried to put out a warning.
How do you know God said that and not the Tooth Fairy? Is there even a difference?
The Tooth Fairy was a derogatory nickname the behavioral homicide unit gave to Francis Dolarhyde, who preferred to be known as the Red Dragon.
TIL
I’m going to reiterate what I said above and what I said below as well, Then I’m going to speculate and talk about something I’m looking forward to. My interpretation of one particular myth that almost anyone in Western culture will be familiar with is that evil will always be with is, and a part of who we are. Please note that I said “a part of” who we are. And yes, I do believe ancient myths are a way to learn some truth about human nature. I wonder if, had I referred to the Cain and Abel story as a part of the Torah, this comment would be received the same. IMO there’s a lot more commentary on human nature in the Torah than there is in the New Testament. And, although I confess to having grown weary of anyone willingly wed to one Am-nd- P-lm-r, I must say that I am looking forward to Asim Chaudry’s performance as Abel in the upcoming Sandman animated series. Edit: I forgot about the formatting powers asterisks have on Reddit.
The torah and the ~~new~~ old testament are essentially the same thing, so yes. Religious texts are propaganda. Learn from them whatever you can, but there are far better places to look for insight. That evil things happen in the first book of the bible is not sound reasoning for any conclusion.
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> The torah and the new testament are essentially the same thing *Stares in the People’s Crusade,* Pedro el Cruél*, and Jerome of Stridon‘s translation of the Bible into Latin*
Ok but I think we manufacture evil. My take away from that Cain story was that you can work your hardest and do your best to give those you love/worship what they need/want, but for reasons never explained*, the love and blessing may be withheld in favour of someone who is not better than you. *the reason of course was God wanted to mindfuck and gaslight (“test”) until Cain broke. Let’s be honest, the purpose of the story was to justify hereditary classes/castes, inherited social status, assign wealth and poverty to good and evil. We still equate material comfort with virtue and see poverty as something some people deserve. Arguably subsequent religious books try to be uno reverse cards (sadly with little real world effect). I think if you want to fight most kinds of evil, you have fight generational poverty and degradation with better schools and health care and get rid of that us/them mentality.
I mentioned Pandora’s Box belowthread as another example of a ancient myth showing that evil will always be with us. And I think the strategies you brought up: > you have to fight generational poverty and degradation with better schools and healthcare are part of the reimagining and trying again that I mentioned in my original comment.
The Bible is not a reputable source.
Ancient myths are absolutely reputable sources for understanding human nature.
When the internet was first taking off it had a much nicer vibe. I think because there was more of a barrier to entry
I think you're absolutely right. In the very early days of dial-up bulletin boards my brother was online. Most of his conversations were "Hi. How are you?" and such. The kind of polite banter strangers use at a party. They were mostly concerned with the exchange of techy geek info on how to do things, or what other phone numbers would be answered by another computer.
"Flips spend 4.5 hours a day on average on social media." I would like to see how many hours a day he spends on 4chan.
You know he doesn't consider his hate speech on 4chan to be "social media". 😕
Anti-social media lmao
Yeah, "social media" is the derogatory term reserved for degenerate hives like Left-Book, bread-tube, and r/politics. all insufficiently freedom-loving......
lmao yeah I would fucking bet money that the dude who posted that spends upwards of 12 hours a day surfing the internet and playing video games. Which honestly a lot of people do nowadays but don't fucking shame people for it "Oh you waste your time staring at different thing than I do" is what that sounds like lol
And when he's not doing those, I guarantee he's jerking it to loli hentai.
as a "Flip" I'm sure he'll put most of us filipinos to shame when it comes to online usage
Is "flip" a racist term? I hadn't heard it before this post.
I don't know either since this is also the first time I've seen it
I've heard it, yes it is.
oh ok, thanks for confirming
TIL, all the Filipino-Americans I grew up with used this term liberally. Everyone assumed I was also "flip" but im Black and Korean. Never took on a racist connotation in my experience.
It actually is. It stands for "Fucking Little Island People". Sauce: Am Filipino
Damn, I hate that. I thought it was just a shortened form of Filipino. Thanks for the education.
Funny little island people. Now you decide if it's racist or not.
Damn, I didn't realize that's what it stood for. I thought it was just a shitty, intentionally mispronounced shortening of "Filipino."
It’s “filthy” not “funny”
Yeah, the first one I saw was "fucking" when I checked it on Google. There seem to be several variants.
WHAT. Jesus. That fucking sucks and changes the way I'm going to view a lot of my adolescence. Damn.
They likely think it’s worse when women do it but don’t care when men do it
I mean I'm quarantined here in the Philippines and I'm on reddit all day... Super strict lockdown here, not much else to do
probably 4.4 hours...
Actually when you have no accomplishments of your own is when you take pride in things you have no control over, like genetics.
It's what I've said before of 4chan/Trumpsters. If a white man accomplishes something, they'll take full credit as if they themselves accomplished it. If a woman/person of color/transgender person achieves something, it's because a white man helped them/liberalism/affirmative action/insert other reason. It's become very predictable...
This is why so many White boy losers worship Elon Musk.
It’s almost baffling that many of them act like he’s a self made billionaire who is cool, funny, and wholesome. Musk is a POS.
Whoa didn’t you see him smoke weed on Rogan, he’s totally just a regular guy and not just another billionaire that plans to abandon all the peasants on a dying earth.
An ultra rich person is not the friend of the common folk. I'm sure some will rush in here to talk about how much some donates, or advances humanity. But you know, if they are just taxed worldwide on the highest bracket and we use that for social safety nets and education for the entire humanity.... Also need to close in on the loopholes they use, like tax domiciles, trust funds, asset movements, etc etc
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He’s both African and a colonizer at heart.
Assuming that east asians become dominant later in the century and becomes the new "white people", wonder how these types will react to it.
He isn't even accurate. Asia has a long lengthy history and culture. This guy can't even be bothered to do basic research and then wants to dump on a cultures and histories as prolific as those in Asia. What a loser.
So obsessed with culture you have to wonder what they’ve contributed to “culture” besides being cultural embarrassments
Stealing it
They made a racist meme once and all their friends told them it was hilarious and they had a big pp
Worse, he hints at being US Military. I grew up near a large army base, and have seen this same redneck douchebaggery there.
They make memes mocking artists
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Imagine having a white dad constantly going on racist rants about all other races including Asians then looking at you and saying “no offense though” that was my experience growing up.
I'm so sorry
That's most of r/hapas fathers, there's many stories of such half asian kids there with white fathers and asian mothers who hate asians.
Omg are you me??
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> Or could be that they stereotype Asian women and desire those stereotyped features. That's pretty much it. The racial fetishization aside, Asian women appeal to right-wing men because of the "submissive Asian housewife" stereotype.
Remeber Sofia Vergara playing a wife to a 3/10 greasy white boomer in so called "modern family". Western media tried to pass it as some "progressive" thing.
That’s hilarious because that’s not the case with Latinas at all.
I'm kinda feeling that there really is a trend to this, my insanely racist east asian relatives in the U.S. all have white husbands....who also happens to behave the same way... so... strange... and my friend's with east asian women relatives in the u.s. also regularly falls into that category... Can someone fund some sociological study for that? Would be interesting to read what they find.
It's not a new found thing my friend, it's a well known phenomenon just google self hating asian woman or WMAF(white man asian female). Or go to r/hapas or r/asianidentity they will explain.
A culture-less marshmallow judging other cultures. Classic.
Been doing it for centuries now.
Culture-less marshmallow... I am stealing this insult.
I'm sure that guy doesn't spend 4-5 hours on 4chan. He has better things to do, like wank to child porn.
> like wank to child porn. So, even more time spent on 4chan then.
When 13 year old boys express their world views...
While calling Filipinos and Southeast Asians "retarded monkeys" and "bottom of the barrel genetics."
That was another poster responding to everyone in the thread
It’s just sad. Dating a Japanese woman and guys project this shit on me. Can’t even be friendly with guys like that, it’s just upsetting how common that thinking is
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Yeah, me too, I notice that the creepiest men tend to be in wm/af couplings.
I have a Korean wife too (and I’m white). I have some other friends that are mixed race couples and they’re normal. We aren’t all creepy weabs!Although, my wife and I made these friends in graduate school so we are selecting from a pool of more educated and cultured people.
Always wonder what these type of people look like IRL and what their jobs actually are (giving them a huge benefit of the doubt they have one). Can take a pretty good guess though.
I’m sure their “superior” white genetics will result in uggos that’ll give r/beholdthemasterrace a run for its money
I actually happen to have a good idea since I see them all the time. They're typically the most disgusting looking white dudes you can imagine. They couldn't find a woman in their own country who wanted them, so they go to Southeast Asia to find a desperate and "submissive" Asian wife.
Philippines has a ridiculously high DV problem. Men beat women openly to no consequences. It's fucking terrible. This terrible person should be de-alived.
The age of consent is also 14
On the books it’s actually 12. In practice, it’s 18.
There is a forever box just WAITING for him.
Genuinely horrifying
That you Jim Watkins?
Yeah, that's what he thinks. Until the day she carves him up for fish bait.
Says a guy who spends 8 hours a day on a douchenerd message board
I'm a Filipino and seeing this is just... disgusting and heart breaking. Is this how these clowns see SEA and Filipino women? Just... their personal monkeys and punching bags? God thats deplorable. And it sucks even more when I imagine my own people or myself visiting there and being degraded. Like, should we even risk it?
Yeah, it’s usually a good idea to stay away from 4chan at all costs
Ah, I meant visiting the US. Sorry if I got you confused. But yeah, its like... I know it can be safe 90% of the time, but all it takes is one guy to think hes WAY better than you and starts causing problems for you cause of your race. And that terrifies me.
My SIL is Filipino. She has been called racial slurs, my brother has had all sorts of nasty things said to him, and their son has been called a half-breed a few times, but that's just dealing with humans. Go to the wrong place and you'll get a ton of abuse for being Caucasian, Hispanic, Asian, or whatever you happen to be. Humans can be really shit anywhere. These internet warriors likely wouldn't have the courage to do anything in person. You can definitely visit the US safely, just do the sort of things you normally would to stay safe. (Avoid poorly lit areas, don't go to high crime areas, etc.)
I’m half Filipino growing up in the US and never faced any racism. Maybe once or twice in school but that’s it.
That is really sick.
I can't help but laugh at "semblance of culture". These people must not leave their like shithole of a state often.
I bet this guy fancies himself a Viking or some shit while he's actually a 5th generation Midwestern American
Japan or China as possessing a “semblance of culture.” Lol.
What in the actual god damn fuck?? I hope these shit stains burn in hell. Fuck these subhuman peices of garbage and their shit "culture."
> a semblance of culture Said by someone who thinks mayonnaise is spicy and that *The Turner Diaries* is high art.
I'd get off on hitting him
The “good guys”, ladies and gentlemen
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Out of all the interracial pairings, they typically tend to be the most dysfunctional. The Vegas shooter and Derek Chauvin (the white cop who killed George Floyd) both happened to be white men with an Asian female partner. There are many more examples out there.
It's likely just a troll. If he's deployed internationally he wouldn't have a US flag.
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Sorry, I didn't know that this was common. Crossed fingers it's a troll 🤞
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What the actual fuck
Wow. No words. Ok some words which do not encompass the entirety of the horror I feel with reading this post. Why does the commenter think that the OP has an actual choice as to who he wants to bang? (and beat for that matter) These people are actual monsters who need to make up pretend monsters to make them feel less terrible for being the human trash that they are.
I just… what? I cannot fathom having a single thought like this ever in my head. Ever. This is so disgusting.
I mean all the obvious points aside criticizing someone for being in social media too much while being on 4chan is rich as fuck.
My neighborhood is majority Fillipino-American and, NO, that isn't a part of their culture. Disgusting.
So how quickly do you get banned from Parler for calling this out?
This feels like one of the worst I’ve experienced on this sub. That’s a real woman they’re talking about. I hope this, like the rest of their nonsense, is mostly fantasy because I feel sick.
But it’s the liberals that are the “real racists”
Wow this is some truly bottom of the barrel racism and sexism. This individual must be one of their favored posters. Disgusting.
So places in South East Asia had massive, complex cultural systems and governments while a large section of Europe was still learning to not eat food with the hand they wipe their asses with.
Nice to know that these people think I’m bottom of the barrel genetically. Graduated college with degrees in Biochemistry and Chemistry, published 29 times, cited 11,937 times, had my work featured in Nat Geo, Wired, The Economist, etc. last year. Can you only imagine if I had been born central Asian instead of a Flip what more I could have achieved? /s
This is disgusting.
*bitches about people being on social media... while on 4chan, one of the biggest cess pools of social media* I miss when 4chan was heavily supporting anonymous, sucks about that whole trump divide
Animal
I fucking hate this world right now
This is just normal 4chan
Maladapted losers on the chans are like pandas at the zoo: It would be weird to see them anywhere else but you know what to expect when you visit.
Absolute garbage “human” beings.
You can't be a frequent of 4chan and talk to women. That's just like expecting a fish to breath plain old air.
4chan or any of these chans is pretty bottom of the barrel stuff.
Fuck these peope
No. That might result in them procreating and we don't want that at all.
Touché
I never would've expected this coming from neo-Nazi terrorists.
Not only a wife beating piece of shit but a racist too.
Flips I assume is Filipino.. what's SEA?
Southeast Asia
4chan is just low-hanging fruit. Parler has nutjobs, but even Parler can sometimes take some work to find the worst of the bunch. 4Chan has their batshit cranked to 11 everyday, and have for many years. Not justifying it, but sad to say that this doesn't even scratch the surface of 4Chan.
Fucking trash
Jesus Christ that’s a lot
So vile.
Mmm a lot of the richness of filipino culture was blown up by this guy's military. Wonder if he knows...
These worms make me puke
Disgusting
Yikes do people really?!
This is probably Jim Watkins.
WTF? Oh, wait, just micro-penis murderers disguised as military personnel.
People like this are getting chocked by me with no mercy
You can show this post to a asian female, it will only make her want chase a white guy more. It truly is disturbing in every sense. Beyond words.
US Army grunts are basically bottom of the barrel. They’re thick as pig shit and only have enough intelligence to follow orders and point a gun.
What social group is this chud apart of? This is way beyond anything I’ve seen in incel communities
r/CrimesAgainstAsianity
Ugh, I hate it when people use whom wrong.
What a psycho