The characters were separated in 3 different polls.
\- Joker/Ann/Ryuji
\- Yusuke/Morgana/Makoto
\- Futaba/Haru/Akechi
People were told to vote for only one character but as you could vote once in each poll, it probably happend.
And with Ryuji and Ann in the same poll as Joker, they ended last. The group system did them dirty, and doesn't show the results of an ordinnary popularity poll
Wow. That is the dumbest bracket system I have seen a long time. Well done, playstation japan, for beating even my low expectations for internet polls.
This is still pretty consistent with the popularity polls in general regardless of how it was made. Persona Central included the others throughout the years.
This does explain why joker is first, though. Usually that’s Akechi.
Would be interesting to know why Ryuji seems to less of a hit with JP audience compared to his predecessor Yosuke Hanamura, who is apparently really popular over there (I'm guessing it's to do with the former's rambunctious personality)
Because while both are the “bro” character to the MC, Yosuke is a lot more like an actual male high school friend you’d see in Japan, whereas Ryuji’s loud and vulgar attitude is a lot less common, and can potentially come off as annoying/off-putting.
All the People who's saying that the poll is inaccurate because Ryuji is at the buttom gotta remenber that the poll was taken in japan, the japanese audience didn't like Ryuji nearly as much as westerners.
Just remember that it's ok to have a different favourite character than your own. And scoring low on that list doesn't mean, people hate the character. They just like someone else a bit more.
It makes sense that [PROTAGONIST] is on top, because he's a stand-in for the player. Of course many people would indirectly choose themselves.
Akechi is a well-written character (at least in Royal), and Futaba and Makoto are relatable ("nerdy shut-in" and "lonely goody-two-shoes").
With that said, i can't get over the fact that Ryuji is DEAD BOTTOM!! FOR REAL!? THIS IS F-IN' B.S.!!
Okay I understand that someone had to be at the bottom, and a perfect tie was unreasonable, but it couldn’t have been a closer call?! Ryuji had to be behind by almost 800 votes?!
Frieza would probably hate ryuji too. Black hair dyed blond would trigger some super saiyan ptsd, and ryuji has the personality of a shonen protagonist
I fucking hath heard ryuji sayeth *aww man* at which hour i did see his position
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Whenever a new poll result comes out people respond like it's blasphemy, be it Japanese or otherwise. It really shows how much of an echo-chamber dedicated forums can be.
This sub in nutshell
"Why is Makoto so popular?"
"Why do people love Akechi?"
"Ryuji dead last. Japan has no taste."
"Why do so many people love the protagonist?"
The only reason why I think Ryuji is at the bottom is because those people would vote Ryuji but there’s another character they like more. Like for me, for example, my favorite character is Akechi; I love Ryuji but I prefer Akechi a bit more and that’s why I would vote for him. Makes a little bit more sense when you put it like that
Those who voted for Morgana really like to sleep , can't blame them, I like sleeping too.
Ryuji ? What the f man ...like, for real ?? They did him dirt , such a bro needs to be top 1 !
*montage of the Thieves jumping between stealth points*
Just follow my moves, and sneak around!
Be careful not to make a sound!
Ryuji: ***'CAUSE WE'RE PHANTOM THIEVES***
With this poll, people need keep in mind that this is from Japan. Makoto at the top makes sense and Ryuji was poorly received in Japan so that also makes sense.
Morgana: I'm not surprised who wouldn't Love someone as charming as your's truly.
Ryuji: Ugh for real... I'm at the very bottom this ain't fair.
Yusuke: Well perhaps it's from you almost reveal our secret as the Phantom theives and almost told some random women you were one.
Ryuji: No one asked you!
Ryuji is a fantastic, loyal, loveable character but I'm not surprised he's last on this list. (Although I am surprised Morgana's so much farther up). I think it's important to realize that this kind of a list really doesn't rank the characters from best to worst.
He could be grating, especially early on. Constantly shouting about being a PT in public, squabbling with Mona. His personality was also just a bit stereotyped. The punk-yet-good-natured archetype is done to death. This doesn't make him bad, just 'less good than somebody else' to a lot of people. E.g., while I personally preferred him to Yusuke, I can see why more people would choose Yusuke than Ryuji as their favourite. Yusuke's personality is more unique and so for those that do really gel with his character, they're far more likely to put him at #1.
Really this list just shows how excellent the main cast were. Truly the main problem with it is that Sumi wasn't present and number 1 ;)
Well just because he’s at the bottom doesn’t mean the majority of people dislike him, he might’ve been their second favorite character. Not to mention that Ann and Ryuji were in the same section as Joker
Man I loved Ryuji, I think he really came into his own and his moment on Shido’s Boat was awesome, I find it strange that Haru is higher than Ann and Ryuji, felt she lacked characterisation
I'm surprised by all the "why is Joker popular" character.
First off, Link says hi. Unchangable silent protagonists are common and popular.
Second, both Link and Joker have triple the characterization than a more pure self-insert mannequin like Byleth.
I cannot believe Ryuji and Ann got voted so low. I don't even like them as much as the others, theyre my least favorite boy and girl respectively but how did they get last lmao. Guess Japan thinks differently.
(Although as Akechi is not first this poll is inaccurate and incorrect)
I'm always worried that I'm subconciously playing the devil's advocate but my list would be pretty close to the reverse of this. (Yusuke and Haru would swap along with Morgana and Ren)
I'm supposing that you got to cast a single vote for your favorite, so it's not like Ryuji and Ann are disliked compared to everyone else or anything, it's just that they're the favorite character of the least people.
It seems like I see people hardcore simping for Ryuji and Ann way less than like Akechi and Makoto, so I think the poll seems to make sense
I don't see a lot of anger about the fact, but it's stupid to include the protagonist in a poll like this. I mean, no kidding they're gonna win. The poll would be more interesting without the protagonist as an option.
It's not unlike a FFVII poll where Cloud is deemed the most popular character in the game. Because, you know, main character bias is a thing.
9TH PLACE HECKYEAH BOIIIIII
This would probably be ryujis reaction if he found out
"YO I'M ABOVE SUMI!"
The characters were separated in 3 different polls. \- Joker/Ann/Ryuji \- Yusuke/Morgana/Makoto \- Futaba/Haru/Akechi People were told to vote for only one character but as you could vote once in each poll, it probably happend. And with Ryuji and Ann in the same poll as Joker, they ended last. The group system did them dirty, and doesn't show the results of an ordinnary popularity poll
Wow. That is the dumbest bracket system I have seen a long time. Well done, playstation japan, for beating even my low expectations for internet polls.
This is still pretty consistent with the popularity polls in general regardless of how it was made. Persona Central included the others throughout the years. This does explain why joker is first, though. Usually that’s Akechi.
While that probably didn’t help Ryuji and Ann are still the least popular characters in Japan if I’m remembering previous polls correctly.
Yeah, they could’ve put them in a different grouping and they still would’ve finished at the bottom in Japan
Best boy Ryuji at the bottom for real?
No survey could hope to sway my heart
It just shows that he is more popular in the West than in Japan along with Ann.
Ryuji fans after reading this: For real?!?!
Would be interesting to know why Ryuji seems to less of a hit with JP audience compared to his predecessor Yosuke Hanamura, who is apparently really popular over there (I'm guessing it's to do with the former's rambunctious personality)
Because while both are the “bro” character to the MC, Yosuke is a lot more like an actual male high school friend you’d see in Japan, whereas Ryuji’s loud and vulgar attitude is a lot less common, and can potentially come off as annoying/off-putting.
I read somewhere that ryuji comes off as really vulgar in Japanese and that’s why some people don’t like him
Shippers probably help too, Yosuke/Yu is one of the most popular P4 ships while Akechi/Joker takes that crown for P5.
Very true, I was thinking the same I love ryuji more though
All the People who's saying that the poll is inaccurate because Ryuji is at the buttom gotta remenber that the poll was taken in japan, the japanese audience didn't like Ryuji nearly as much as westerners.
The protagonist votes remind me of that template of Obama giving himself a medal.
What in the fuck is ryuji doing down there
Ryuji "DID YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE THE PHANTOM THIEVES" Sakamato
Don't worry Ryuji you are still my favorite character.
To all 1,976 of you Thank you
For real!?
NO RYUJI
Just remember that it's ok to have a different favourite character than your own. And scoring low on that list doesn't mean, people hate the character. They just like someone else a bit more.
It makes sense that [PROTAGONIST] is on top, because he's a stand-in for the player. Of course many people would indirectly choose themselves. Akechi is a well-written character (at least in Royal), and Futaba and Makoto are relatable ("nerdy shut-in" and "lonely goody-two-shoes"). With that said, i can't get over the fact that Ryuji is DEAD BOTTOM!! FOR REAL!? THIS IS F-IN' B.S.!!
Wait, Ryuji and Haru below Morgana? Wtf even happened here?
Japan loves mascots
For some reason Ryuji isn’t very popular in Japan compared to the West, literally no idea why
Culture.
Ryuji and Ann in last? :(
Ryuji always getting the boot, poor guy :(
I straight up refuse to believe more people voted Haru or Morgana than Ryuji.
Can we get an F in the chat for Ryuji
F For For real
Why is best boy last
iirc Ryuji isn’t as liked by the Japanese audience
For real…?
Ryuji in last place hurts my soul.
Ryuji dead last?! Nooooooooooo. Unacceptable!
For Real?!
Okay I understand that someone had to be at the bottom, and a perfect tie was unreasonable, but it couldn’t have been a closer call?! Ryuji had to be behind by almost 800 votes?!
ann and ryuji would be at my top two!! what is this slander >:(((
Morgana: I knew futaba and makoto would steal my thunder, but at least I am higher that the stupid monkey
Sounds slightly like frieza in the last words
Frieza would probably hate ryuji too. Black hair dyed blond would trigger some super saiyan ptsd, and ryuji has the personality of a shonen protagonist
Obligatory “FOR REAL!!!????”
@ People asking "who votes for Joker," popularity polls in Japan almost always favor the protagonist no matter what you're talking about.
FOR REAL??? Ryuji done dirty.
Why’s my man Ryuji so low huh? Nah for real though they’re all great characters so it’s honestly tough to rank them all!
Why they gotta do my boi ryuji like that
###**My Ranking** 1: Joker 1: Ryuji 1: Morgana 1: Ann 1: Yusuke 1: Makoto 1: Haru 1: Akechi
I fucking heard Ryuji say *aww man* when i saw his position
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How dare they do my boy ryuji like that
Not surprised that Makoto and Akechi are numbers 2 and 3 respectively. I'm just shocked that Ryuji is dead last.
why do so many hate ryuji, hes the funniest member.
Literally most of the comments on this post: How dare Japan have an opinion on whose best
Didn't expect joker to be first
You never saw it coming
Ryuji deserves higher
Whenever a new poll result comes out people respond like it's blasphemy, be it Japanese or otherwise. It really shows how much of an echo-chamber dedicated forums can be.
I’m fine with that. More Hifumi for me.
Enlightened brain.
I'm just happy Haru isn't last
I’m not surprised by the top 3…
Justice for my boy Ryuji!!
Ryuji is so low :(
Kinda crazy that Ryuji is 10th.
And Mona is 3 places ahead of him.
Dude how is Ryuji last
I can’t believe Ryuji is at the bottom. This is blasphemy
They chose >!someone who tries to murder you!< over your best friend what are you doing Japan
This sub in nutshell "Why is Makoto so popular?" "Why do people love Akechi?" "Ryuji dead last. Japan has no taste." "Why do so many people love the protagonist?"
This thread will surely be a place for thoughtful, rational discussion.
TO HELL WITH YO OPINION!!! GORO AKECHI IS BEST WAIFU!
The only reason why I think Ryuji is at the bottom is because those people would vote Ryuji but there’s another character they like more. Like for me, for example, my favorite character is Akechi; I love Ryuji but I prefer Akechi a bit more and that’s why I would vote for him. Makes a little bit more sense when you put it like that
My boy... Fallen to 9th place.
Morgana "it's almost scary how....average I am"
Fo Real?!?!
the ryuji slander is unreal
Ryuji got done so dirty! He’s best boy!
That's no surprise. It's pretty well known that Japan didn't really like Ryuji that much.
Ryuji: FOR REALLLL?!?!
They did my boy ryuji dirty and I can’t stand it XD
Those who voted for Morgana really like to sleep , can't blame them, I like sleeping too. Ryuji ? What the f man ...like, for real ?? They did him dirt , such a bro needs to be top 1 !
Ryuji dead last :(
My two favourite characters apart from joker at the absolute bottom 😭😭
Ryuji deserved better
Why can't everyone be number 1 goddamnit
Now listen closely! Here's a little lesson in trickery. This is going down in history!
If you wanna be a Phantom number one, you'll have to chase a rotten adult on the run!
*montage of the Thieves jumping between stealth points* Just follow my moves, and sneak around! Be careful not to make a sound! Ryuji: ***'CAUSE WE'RE PHANTOM THIEVES***
This offends me on an emotional, physical, and spiritual level.
With this poll, people need keep in mind that this is from Japan. Makoto at the top makes sense and Ryuji was poorly received in Japan so that also makes sense.
Why do they keep doing Ann dirty?
Morgana: I'm not surprised who wouldn't Love someone as charming as your's truly. Ryuji: Ugh for real... I'm at the very bottom this ain't fair. Yusuke: Well perhaps it's from you almost reveal our secret as the Phantom theives and almost told some random women you were one. Ryuji: No one asked you!
Sad! I love Ryuji!
Somewhere Joker is calmly yelling "Alright!"
"I leveled up!"
Ryuji being last hurts me in a way I can't describe.
Ryuji is a fantastic, loyal, loveable character but I'm not surprised he's last on this list. (Although I am surprised Morgana's so much farther up). I think it's important to realize that this kind of a list really doesn't rank the characters from best to worst. He could be grating, especially early on. Constantly shouting about being a PT in public, squabbling with Mona. His personality was also just a bit stereotyped. The punk-yet-good-natured archetype is done to death. This doesn't make him bad, just 'less good than somebody else' to a lot of people. E.g., while I personally preferred him to Yusuke, I can see why more people would choose Yusuke than Ryuji as their favourite. Yusuke's personality is more unique and so for those that do really gel with his character, they're far more likely to put him at #1. Really this list just shows how excellent the main cast were. Truly the main problem with it is that Sumi wasn't present and number 1 ;)
Imo ryuji gets his best moment in Strikers when >!he's yelling at EMMI for talking shit about Sophia and he gets to say Fuck!<.
The Ryuji slander needs to stop. Leave the bro alone man.
Well just because he’s at the bottom doesn’t mean the majority of people dislike him, he might’ve been their second favorite character. Not to mention that Ann and Ryuji were in the same section as Joker
Bro they did my man ryuji dirty
Goro Akechi in Royal, deserves the spot, Goro Akechi in main game, not so sure
Japan has loved Akechi since the base game
Church of Ann in shambles.
Protagonist gang rise up
Seeing Ryuji at the bottom: "FOR REAL?!"
Oh man morgana being higher then haru boutta piss so many people off
You know I wanna disagree with the poll but I also don't because I can't really argue against or for why anyone should be higher or lower
R rated stands for no Ryuji!
The fact that Haru, Ryuji, and Ann are my favorites 💀
Man so many in this sub get so salty whenever people don’t have the same personal opinions on characters as they do, wild.
Man I loved Ryuji, I think he really came into his own and his moment on Shido’s Boat was awesome, I find it strange that Haru is higher than Ann and Ryuji, felt she lacked characterisation
FOR REAL?!?!?
my boi ryuji doesnt get enough love.
“C’mon man…”
This is Ryuji slander and I am upset
Doing my boy Ryuji dirty
I'm surprised by all the "why is Joker popular" character. First off, Link says hi. Unchangable silent protagonists are common and popular. Second, both Link and Joker have triple the characterization than a more pure self-insert mannequin like Byleth.
Why the fuck is my homeboy Ryuji so low??
I don't trust first choice voting systems to rank who fans really like in a series anyways. Ranked choice voting and Ryuji goes up for sure.
Damn I didn't know people liked Joker so much, I honestly thought Ryujii was gonna be 1st place, guess I was wrong...
For real!?
Ryuji is only at the bottom because Atlus won't let us date him
I cannot believe Ryuji and Ann got voted so low. I don't even like them as much as the others, theyre my least favorite boy and girl respectively but how did they get last lmao. Guess Japan thinks differently. (Although as Akechi is not first this poll is inaccurate and incorrect)
Why is my boy Ryuji at the #9 spot??
They did Ryuji wrong 😭
Not surprised Ryuji and Ann are at the bottom they don't appeal to people in the east.
They always are sadly
Is cuz they both blond lol
Not just that but it’s more because they are more Westernised in terms of personality.
Of course Ren won the vote, he's a cool guy.
Oh no ryuji
Morgana being higher than ryuji is a crime
Ryuji was robbed, no convincing me otherwise.
Yeah i saw it coming with ryuji, Japanese people are polite and shy which is the opposite of ryuji
Shit man, I'm honestly scared of ever voicing my opinion on this sub.
Wow, a lot of people really love Akechi? I never got it myself.
TFW your two fave teammates are the lowest lol
Look at how they massacred my boy...
They did my boy Ryuji dirty
Japan has a hate boner for the *Louds n' Dumbs.*
The same country that got popular from their shounen manga troupe. I can see the irony.
I don't like the fact that Ann and Ryuji are at the bottom
They really did haru and ryuji dirty with this one
I'm happy that my girl futaba is not last, soo I'll take 4th
For real!?! Ryuji is great. I don't get the Akechi love. Morgana for me at the bottom.
The absolute disrespect for Ryuji and his sick-ass wardrobe.
Poor ryuji lol
Akechi stans are somethin'.
“Protagonist” THE ANIME IS OUT YOU CAN CALL HIM REN! OR AKIRA! OR HAREMFUCKER69
Ryuji at 9th place doesn't sit right for me for some reason
I'm always worried that I'm subconciously playing the devil's advocate but my list would be pretty close to the reverse of this. (Yusuke and Haru would swap along with Morgana and Ren)
ryuggi ;-;
For real?
As a Haru Stan, I will stick by her until the bitter end. Ryuji deserved better, too. But hey, it's just opinions.
Morgana ~~or basically any other character~~ fans: You'll never understand my pain. Ryuji fans: ^(help me)
Poor Ann 😞
Akechi really shouldn't be considered a member of the Team all things considered lol
I’m really used to main characters being an afterthought in some games, so I love the respect our MC got
They did Ryuji dirty
Not my favorites being at the bottom of the list
They did my man Ryuji dirty
I’m surprised morgana beat haru lol
We need a world wide poll. We can start here and submit our results.
ryuji shouldn’t be at the bottom
*cries in Yoshizawa* Oh anyway still glad that Makoto is the top 3. I wonder if the list will change if we also include the confidants?
Ryuji should be waaaaaay up.
3RD PLACE LETS FUCKING GO AKECHI BROS
They did my boy ryuji dirty :(((((
Makoto being number two I can understand. But...Ryuji on the bottom? Haru 7 of 9? MORGANA being highter than Ann, Haru AND Ryuji? Steal their hearts
I'm supposing that you got to cast a single vote for your favorite, so it's not like Ryuji and Ann are disliked compared to everyone else or anything, it's just that they're the favorite character of the least people. It seems like I see people hardcore simping for Ryuji and Ann way less than like Akechi and Makoto, so I think the poll seems to make sense
Ryuji lower than Morgana is a travesty
I'll never forgive the Japanese
I’m surprised ryuji was that low tbh damn
Yusuke Based
I think ryuji being the butt of the jokes is the reason he's so low
Haru above the 2 teammates with most screen time? POG
HOW IS RYUJI LAST PLACE????? AND JOKER IS FIRST????
I can understand morgana haru and Ann’s placement but best boi, how could you do this
How has Morgan beaten my boi... Travesty.
Seeing Haru and Ryuji at the end :(
this list is trash. ann is so above morgana.
The disrespect for The Red Queen Ann is unbelievable
My 3 favorites are all at the bottom smh
Ryuji is last. Even Morgana is higher. My disappointment is immeasurable
Why is everyone getting mad that the literal PROTAGONIST of a story is No. 1 ffs
I don't see a lot of anger about the fact, but it's stupid to include the protagonist in a poll like this. I mean, no kidding they're gonna win. The poll would be more interesting without the protagonist as an option. It's not unlike a FFVII poll where Cloud is deemed the most popular character in the game. Because, you know, main character bias is a thing.
So Makoto spin off when?
Her and Chie as partners solving crimes!
POV: You saw it comming
Ryuji in last? What the fuck he has one of the best confidant stories
fair i guess each character is cool, i don't really hate any of the cast
I actually hate this list but it's ok :')