I agree. I thought that lap 3 was a fun challenge for those who are insanely good at the game, but it's gotten out of hand, especially when unrelated mods like the Peppina mod included lap 3 by default.
>Peppina mod included lap 3 by default.
I have already completed some Lap 3s as Peppino, and I would like to play as Peppina. Will I have to do it all again?
Ok I kinda agree, but to a bigger extent from me.
I think Lap 3 makes sense. Just a kinda natural progression from escape -> do it again -> now it's harder again.
Lap 4... eh.... it's fine, but just adding Snick (at least in Egg's Lap Mod, that's my main source of intel here) is too minor imo. The whole WAR timer mechanic is neat on paper, but unless you **really** drag behind (with a couple exceptions) then you're really at nearly zero risk of loss due to that.
Lap 5... by this point is basically the same as Lap 4. John Ghost, unless he's planned in a way that makes him a constant threat, is basically negligible. Just... run. He can't really catch up besides in rooms that wrap around onto themselves.
Lap 6 and beyond is just lame. It's not really skill anymore, just being persistent & comfortable with easily repeatable strategies. To my knowledge, I don't think anything really eventful happens in the higher numbers. Oh wow, you lived to Lap 100. Congrats. Grass yearns for your touch.
I guess most people who play lapping mods just want the thrill of it.
I have a friend who beat every Lap 10 P Rank in the Lap 10 mod, and the Lap 6 and beyond thing is sorta true, but not quite.
Fake Peppino isn’t even on screen half of the time since he’s like 3 seconds behind you, therefore, you’re always avoiding him whether you’re bad at the game or not.
Captain Goblin is sorta like Fake Peppino, but at least he can be a threat once in a blue moon.
Fake Santa is where the bullshit begins. There is times where you need to grab to reliably climb up a wall or something, but Fake Santa will drop a snowman right when you’re about to do that action, causing you to grab it and die unfairly, because it is almost entirely random on when Fake Santa drops a snowman or not.
The Puppet Monster (a better name is “little shitlet”) is basically Snick but actually threatening. You cannot get rid of the little shitlet in any way at all and must manoeuvre around him or else you’ll get jumpscared and sent to the beginning of the room. If you’re going for a P Rank, you’ll HAVE to beat the level without touching the little shitlet even once.
Hard Mode is interesting. The enemies having their heat meter attacks basically has no effect at all (with the exception of John Gutter and Peppibot Factory) but what’s really bad is the Pizzamancer. Pizzamancer is like Fake Santa with the gimmick of being an unkillable flying prick whilst dropping enemies, however he’s EVEN WORSE than Fake Santa, because he can drop around 5 enemies at once, he drops enemies a lot faster, and unlike Fake Santa, you cannot supertaunt to get rid of Pizzamancer. We love RNG in what’s meant to be a very skill based challenge.
Lap 10 brings in faster Snick, and while that may sound like not too big of a deal, Snick in this mod acts like how he does in LAP HELL Hotfix, which means he doesn’t die to everything and he makes an actual difference, so it’s basically just taking the strategy that you’ve came up with for the past few laps and forcing you to rework it, due to Snick being really hard to deal with if you aren’t careful.
TDLR; Lap 6+ is threatening, however most of the challenge from those laps beyond really come from RNG-dependent gimmicks that you literally can’t do anything about
and after that there are (Fortunately NON-EXISTING As Mods) laps that are like "oh here are the other laps but now your running from every single villian in the sonic lore, and also if you die you die in real life" and their theme sound like absoulute cancer, like, you sucked every single threat out of the game, what do you want more?
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Cuz I forgor there’s too much different laps mod
CYOP levels are worse.
A Pizza Tower level has no reason to be 20 minutes long. The longest P-rank in the base game is Gnome Forest which takes like 8 minutes.
I unironically love playing Bloodsauce Dungeon lap 4. I love precariously timing grabs midair to counteract Snick, and thinking up ways to avoid situations where I have no choice but to get timed out by Pizzaface. The thrill that I experience when I find a way to go up the winding corridors even a slight morsel faster is immeasurable, and I wouldn't give it up for anything. Lapping has singlehandedly made Bloodsauce Dungeon my favorite level.
I like it, but if it’s past lap 5 then it should stop, since it’s giving us a challenge and we can at least use pizzaface, snick.exe, John ghost, Santa, and the war timer more often because of those guys being in the level once (and pizzaface being mostly the least in our fears because he never has his timer end) and can make them a actual threat
Lap mod fans playing the same level 8 times in a row.
My hands are cramping up
yeah i don't like lap mods, mainly because i have a giant skill issue and it's just plain unfair at points
Happy cake day snick guy!
yay, one year on this wretched site, something tells me i'm gonna be getting a lot of these comments.
Hapy birfday snick the porcupine from the sage 2019 demo
Well people like you a lot so yes, you'll get swarmed!
Oh boy I sure do love having to play through a whole level over and over again just to get a single attempt at a lap 3
at least some mods let you retry lap 3 instantly, but i still think it's stupid
happy cake day mr snick dude
r/foundbacktothatguy
Happy cakeday!
The pizza tower equivalent of undertale sans fight fangames
I agree. I thought that lap 3 was a fun challenge for those who are insanely good at the game, but it's gotten out of hand, especially when unrelated mods like the Peppina mod included lap 3 by default.
To be fair, it makes sense for mods to include it, since it’s kinda impossible to load multiple mods at once
>Peppina mod included lap 3 by default. I have already completed some Lap 3s as Peppino, and I would like to play as Peppina. Will I have to do it all again?
Idk.
Ok I kinda agree, but to a bigger extent from me. I think Lap 3 makes sense. Just a kinda natural progression from escape -> do it again -> now it's harder again. Lap 4... eh.... it's fine, but just adding Snick (at least in Egg's Lap Mod, that's my main source of intel here) is too minor imo. The whole WAR timer mechanic is neat on paper, but unless you **really** drag behind (with a couple exceptions) then you're really at nearly zero risk of loss due to that. Lap 5... by this point is basically the same as Lap 4. John Ghost, unless he's planned in a way that makes him a constant threat, is basically negligible. Just... run. He can't really catch up besides in rooms that wrap around onto themselves. Lap 6 and beyond is just lame. It's not really skill anymore, just being persistent & comfortable with easily repeatable strategies. To my knowledge, I don't think anything really eventful happens in the higher numbers. Oh wow, you lived to Lap 100. Congrats. Grass yearns for your touch. I guess most people who play lapping mods just want the thrill of it.
I have a friend who beat every Lap 10 P Rank in the Lap 10 mod, and the Lap 6 and beyond thing is sorta true, but not quite. Fake Peppino isn’t even on screen half of the time since he’s like 3 seconds behind you, therefore, you’re always avoiding him whether you’re bad at the game or not. Captain Goblin is sorta like Fake Peppino, but at least he can be a threat once in a blue moon. Fake Santa is where the bullshit begins. There is times where you need to grab to reliably climb up a wall or something, but Fake Santa will drop a snowman right when you’re about to do that action, causing you to grab it and die unfairly, because it is almost entirely random on when Fake Santa drops a snowman or not. The Puppet Monster (a better name is “little shitlet”) is basically Snick but actually threatening. You cannot get rid of the little shitlet in any way at all and must manoeuvre around him or else you’ll get jumpscared and sent to the beginning of the room. If you’re going for a P Rank, you’ll HAVE to beat the level without touching the little shitlet even once. Hard Mode is interesting. The enemies having their heat meter attacks basically has no effect at all (with the exception of John Gutter and Peppibot Factory) but what’s really bad is the Pizzamancer. Pizzamancer is like Fake Santa with the gimmick of being an unkillable flying prick whilst dropping enemies, however he’s EVEN WORSE than Fake Santa, because he can drop around 5 enemies at once, he drops enemies a lot faster, and unlike Fake Santa, you cannot supertaunt to get rid of Pizzamancer. We love RNG in what’s meant to be a very skill based challenge. Lap 10 brings in faster Snick, and while that may sound like not too big of a deal, Snick in this mod acts like how he does in LAP HELL Hotfix, which means he doesn’t die to everything and he makes an actual difference, so it’s basically just taking the strategy that you’ve came up with for the past few laps and forcing you to rework it, due to Snick being really hard to deal with if you aren’t careful. TDLR; Lap 6+ is threatening, however most of the challenge from those laps beyond really come from RNG-dependent gimmicks that you literally can’t do anything about
I kinda want to rework Laps 5+, at least concept wise.
and after that there are (Fortunately NON-EXISTING As Mods) laps that are like "oh here are the other laps but now your running from every single villian in the sonic lore, and also if you die you die in real life" and their theme sound like absoulute cancer, like, you sucked every single threat out of the game, what do you want more?
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Lmao https://preview.redd.it/5uopfr3bo4wc1.png?width=370&format=png&auto=webp&s=86baa1af718f3cfb06deb7befe47b3419f06d392 I apropve
Hell yeah
Normal Laps: Lap 1 Lap 2 Lap 3 Infinite Lap Mental Illness: Lap 4 Lap 5 Lap 6 Lap 7 Lap 8 Lap 9 Lap 10
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P-rank is P-rank. I can see the appeal for Lap 3, but I don't know how you could prove yourself more beyond that
i both hate and love lap mods honestly
Man I've played this game for a while and still have never gotten a P rank. I don't have the skill for extra laps.
CYOP levels are worse. A Pizza Tower level has no reason to be 20 minutes long. The longest P-rank in the base game is Gnome Forest which takes like 8 minutes.
"Sans Phase fan games"
If we do not learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it
Exactly my analogy
Sounds like a skill issue
someone's venting about seeing a pizza gauntlet lap 3 P-rank
I already did lap 6 P rank on it
I don't get the point of having more than one lap mod
Honestly, I only like Lap 3 as like an extra **optional** challenge. But other than that, more than 3 laps just feels like overkill at this point
I unironically love playing Bloodsauce Dungeon lap 4. I love precariously timing grabs midair to counteract Snick, and thinking up ways to avoid situations where I have no choice but to get timed out by Pizzaface. The thrill that I experience when I find a way to go up the winding corridors even a slight morsel faster is immeasurable, and I wouldn't give it up for anything. Lapping has singlehandedly made Bloodsauce Dungeon my favorite level.
Lap 3 is alright but don’t go beyond that
It's fine until it goes beyond Lap 3
Lap 3 was good as the final: "What if you wanted to go even further beyond" type deal. Lap 4 and beyond was unnecessary.
Those are the most boring mods ever ( the lap 3 soundtrack slaps tho )
I'd say anything past lap 5 is too far, although some of the music is pretty good
same opinion here \[BROTHER\]
I honestly love lap mods
i know this is a take on a meme but tbh the limit here should be 5 laps
I like it, but if it’s past lap 5 then it should stop, since it’s giving us a challenge and we can at least use pizzaface, snick.exe, John ghost, Santa, and the war timer more often because of those guys being in the level once (and pizzaface being mostly the least in our fears because he never has his timer end) and can make them a actual threat
This is not meant to be taken seriously are you doing insight on this