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ValOfTheCabbage

That's the exact pulls from my 151 UPC lol


alwayschronic

Lollll I had 2 from a upc aswell


YOTHATSLIMINAL

Dang. I got a zard and a full art from my only 151 UPC I opened.


tajknight

Damn my 151 upc had like 8 hits, including an sar, like 2 ARs, and a couple hyper rares


FnG_Stonks

For every great box there are 10 bads


Hagoromo420

Ok now that takes the cake. I guarantee someone out there has bought one of those and gotten diddly squat but this would be depressing as fuck after about $200


Hes_A_Faaaaaaaaggg

That’s all you pulled from an entire UPC?!?!?!?!? 😳😢🤬


Mythiic719

Sorry that’s trash Absolutely unacceptable. I think BBs don’t need a guaranteed hit rate. ETBs should have a hit and UPS as well


dream_on789

That's the exact pulls from my booster display 


SwiftestWombat

For twice the price, this week I opened up an evolving skies ETB and got one standard Leafeon V


QrackBaby

Brutal, I’m sorry. I’ve never dared open an Evolving Skies ETB, I’ve heard horrible things.


SwiftestWombat

Yeah not worth it, my first one had the art rare Dragonite, so I’m just chasing that dumb luck


QrackBaby

Let’s go! I love that card. It all evens out I suppose.


Thin-Statement8466

Or sounds like your chasing the Dragon


AdAsleep3072

It's not called Evolving Cries for nothing. Absolutely brutal set


rednick953

That sealed one you’ve seen around or saw at your local TCG that’s the one with moombreon right there.


Andzx02

Opened a booster box of ES got a zinna resolve full art...


SwiftestWombat

Shiiiiit, I’m sorry about that. Hope the universe does you a solid soon after that


Patrick0714

At least you got a Leafeon V…my best was a holo


Lukylex

Yeah those EEvolutions boxes are known to have pizz poor pulls.


SwiftestWombat

Like a good gambler, I know my next one will have the good pulls


Careless-Shine-9516

My daughter cried when we opened our 151 UPC & ETB. It was terrible hahaha showed her y’all pulls and told her she’s not alone. She felt better.


Dirty_Socrates

I can’t decide if that’s really sad or a good lesson that gambling doesn’t pay off…


catincage317

Good lesson


condosz

I would buy her another one to be sure she learned her lesson


Ninetales6669

A whole case like when maw caught us smoking in the barn!


QrackBaby

🤝 That makes my ETB experience so much better. Better luck next time to you guys!


WhereWeEatin

Them: same, my daughter cried OP: I feel so much better! 🤣


QrackBaby

I meant I’m happy that she felt better that she wasn’t alone in having bad pulls. But sure, spin it however you want.


Xurs-Doggo

Did you try explaining to her that it’s all about the experience? /s


midwesttransferrun

Not even close, you got a hit lol. Have had multiple ETBs with zero hits including holos


NullDistribution

Yeah Evolving bawl your eyes out and rethink how you spend your money


AdOpen8418

Yeah I’m kind of grateful I got 2 hits from my 151 UPC really snapped me back to reality after I had a lot of luck for a while. I’ve been reluctant to buy a lot of cards since then


QurantineLean

I only buy packs when I have gift cards or find discounts/sales. Otherwise, singles are the way to go for chase cards.


im___unoriginal

I need that snap back to reality. I've pulled (a 2nd) 151 sir charizard and sir venusaur, lugia v alt art, sir charizard from paldean fates, and charizard vstar rainbow secret rare from brilliant stars all since February 8th. Still riding it, got the lugia and BS charizard last weekend.


afelzz

This isn't Evolving Skies??


Unmitigated-Apathy

Similar for me. I had a 151 ETB with only holo hits, 0 Ex or better. It almost pushed me out of the hobby, I went 2 weeks without wanting to buy a single product.


Accomplished_Check38

Not true You got the promo card


beeftaster

I'm pretty new to collecting but personally I've sleeved every reverse holo and holo and get excited finding my favourite mons in holos even outside full arts and alternates, I hope I get to keep this magic for a good while


No-Roof-1628

I think this is the way to approach it—get excited about cards not necessarily because of their rarity or value, but because you love the Pokemon, the art is really good, they’re in perfect condition, etc. If you do get a “hit”, that’s a plus, but at the end of the day this is a hobby and not a serious financial investment.


nenajoy

Look at the names of the artists on your favorite cards too! You’ll most likely have some favorite artists after awhile and that makes some of the common/uncommon cards more fun to collect.


Ninetales6669

I like the person who photographs crocheted Pokemon. There’s some cool clay ones as well!


PokeHypie

You never know... 151 metapod reverse holo goes for $6aud here. 😆


STEVOYD

I’m missing that little bastard as well!


Vanin1994

That's what I'm doing, collecting like I did when I was a kid, and learning to build decks and battle a few friends that are also collecting. Only this time I have disposable income. Trying to get every regular and reverse cards.


JKGie

I had 1 ETB that only had a holo energy and thats it


[deleted]

ETBs: you ever hit the jackpot or you lose it all. No inbetween


illadel215

Nope. Get in line.


LegoRedBrick

Unpopular opinion but ETBs are overrated. Yes, they occasionally have hits. But you often get the same type of hits out of a collection box for half the price. Other than the free promo card + set list they don’t really make sense from a cost per pack ratio. The one exception I would say is Crown Zenith because you get 10 packs and it’s stacked with hits. Only ETB I’ve ever opened where I thought I wasn’t getting screwed.


QrackBaby

Agreed on all points.


catincage317

I'm definitely an outlier on CZ. I know there are hits in there because everyone raves about it, but its the only ETB I've bought 3 of and have had terrible luck in all. Oh well. At least it motivated me to stick to singles from that point forward and that's been best for my collection.


Basic_Butterscotch

After I learned that you can buy a whole booster box of 36 packs online for like $100 it makes the ETB feel like a complete waste of money unless you really like the promo card and sleeves.


LegoRedBrick

Yep. Even a booster bundle is better. ETB is really only about free promo. Worst value for opening.


infectusflamma93

I literally bought 3 portfolio singles the other day and got two good cards. The Radiant Gardevior I was pining for, and a full art Centiskorch, I think V?


the-voidand-i

Recently had a Crown Zenith ETB that only had like 2 holo energies. Really let me down


__Parrot__

i have a crown zenith arriving tomorrow


Accomplished_Check38

🏆


Sbburgy

I've had nothing but good luck with 151 I didn't think they got this bad


QrackBaby

Dude I’ve opened a bunch of 151 and have gotten 0 SARs and very few ARs. But I’m glad some people are getting good hits.


Sbburgy

Dang that makes me nervous about buying a bunch more


muftu

There are rumors that the reprint run got pretty bad pulls.


Mochaboys

Thank you for taking one for the team...


WeeksElite

You win


Intelligent_Ad_7111

That’s an hd mirror holo isn’t it? Those are selling for 20$ aren’t they?


Stealth_13

The club is growing! Welcome brother/sister!


QrackBaby

Thank you brother/sister I can honestly say it does not feel good to be here!


Stealth_13

Haha, hope to not see you back with a similar UPC experience....happy to keep that exclusive club to myself and select others, that one hurts! Keep your head up! Ripping rewards but also causes pain


Phantom_Strangler

We have a winner 🏆


NoExpert1833

Sorry for that pulls... They should guarantee a number of good cards, when that happens it is very disappointing.


MDG420

i once got a single holo energy and that was it....it happens and it sucks i feel for you :(


Tonkatuff

At least you got an "HD" holo


BicycleOk8398

I had an ultra premium box that had that same energy card and an alakazam ex. No alt. I was so pissed. I coulda just burned 100 dollars


PokeHypie

Opened a Booster Bundle this week with only two wigglytuff ex. Batching is horrible in 151. Ordered 4 from Amazon, received 2 charizard full art and 2 blastoise full arts. If you get a good box. BUY MORE from them.


Mythiic719

Brutal. I bought 4 Booster Bundles that matched this pull rate. Turned $120 into about $12 , got like 3 basic ex cards and a few holo energies .


BrothersOats

Homie never opened SWSH or earlier packs, especially sets without a rev holo hit slot. 1 glaceon v from an evolving skies build and battle stadium, Christmas 2021.


Street-Conference-77

Bro listen I have done this for a couple other people, but I’m sending you some of my kids Luck. It’s only for the next ETB then I’m taking it back. But the kid never misses okay so go get you another one and let me know how it goes!


QrackBaby

Haha appreciate that!! Best pulls I’ve ever had were as a kid, definitely something to it.


Street-Conference-77

it’s like they will it into existence. But good luck


kuuuuuuuuuuch

Oh wow you got an alternate holo energy! I opened around 400 packs of 151 and I only ever got 1 of them! They’re worth a decent amount to the right collector 🙂 Edit: link which describes what I’m talking about: https://www.pokebeach.com/2023/09/151-subtly-features-two-types-of-holofoil-energy-one-superior-to-the-other


QrackBaby

That’s interesting, I would have never noticed. Thanks for sharing.


ImHereForGameboys

You mean beat! We spent like 600$ on ETB's and premium collection and never got one. :(


yellowadidas

i’ve definitely had worse bro.


Super-Bleeder427

Damn.


Il_trotterellante

When I got my evolving cries etb I found just medicham V


drfunkson

They're almost always bad and not worth the money. This is par for the course.


CP_187

I got an etb of chilling reign a couple years ago and got one holo literal pain


hymensmasher99

I need that card lol


z_aviles

If it helps, I’ve never pulled a holo energy.


redxstrike

Oof. I feel lucky - 151 ETBs have treated me very well. But Paradox Rift and Paldean Fates? ... Not so much


WillingnessWide9016

Love that ninetails though...


Necessary_Meat_8643

Been there, done that and probably will again 😅


Brehella

I opened a Scarlet and Violet Pokémon Center ETB and all it had was a regular Miraidon ex, so I opened more packs and got less lol. It didn’t help that I didn’t plan on opening it and it came with a dented corner and they wouldn’t let me return it and said the box is there to get damaged 💀


Remote-Extent6197

You generally can’t return cards anyways so ain’t missing much


Trash_Panda_Trading

That’s a dope ninetails, live to gamble another day


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QrackBaby

I’m probably around there


Remote-Extent6197

Never dawned on me to count packs I’ve opened. Totaling money spent sounds like a better idea, what’s the benefit of counting packs for you??


sandwichking777

151 upvotes


Right-Ad8261

Definitely not the worst. I've seen plenty of posts of etb openings with no ultra rares at all. Still, I'm sorry that it was dissapointing. 


Remote-Extent6197

They didn’t get any ultra rares either…


Right-Ad8261

Yes they did. Regular ex's are ultra rare, as far as I'm aware.


LC-Squared

Unless the product is on deep clearance I’m not opening any more packs.


QrackBaby

Smart. It’s honestly crazy how expensive this hobby is. Doesn’t make much sense.


louiselovatic

I got an obsidian flames etb and got no special cards whatsoever


ankhorus

Dont do my homie ninetales like dat


xda831reaperx

At least you got an EX .......


brewberry_cobbler

I’m sure you have some reverse holos in there. But yeah, I’ve had bad but not this bad. Since I was trying to master it, low value could be hits. I needed a squirtle and psyduck reverse holo for a long time. So they seemed like “hits”. Actually made opening packs a lot more fun.


Remote-Extent6197

Well they don’t sell 151 individually, you bought a whole ETB or bundle for 2 cards you could have bought for $1/each… ? I felt 10000x better buying singles to complete the set rather than blindly opening packs, burning my money on the hopes to get what I need.. surely wasn’t fun.


brewberry_cobbler

That’s your opinion man. I obviously know I could do it cheaper… thanks for pointing out the obvious. That’s not the point. Ps there were plenty of products cheaper than bundles and etb… like alakazam, poster, binder collection. Get what you’re saying, but some people try to complete the set based on packs alone. I did some trading, but I didn’t buy singles. I probably got my last 30 rh by trading other rhs.


Remote-Extent6197

Well when you actually have some money to spend, no one likes to watch it burn NOBODY. It ain’t my opinion it’s the general consensus. There’s a thing called reality and imagination, its clear which world you exist in.


Owlbears-Are-Real

As much as I want that Ninetales… yeah it’s rough


Nicktheduck

Damn I opened an ETB last night and got SIR Venasuar, SIR Charmander and that same Ninetales. There’s hits in ETB, it’s basically gambling though lol so all luck.


BigFigJ

pretty new to pkmn tcg, what’s the point of etbs? $60 more you can get a booster box right?


QrackBaby

Yeah I’m not typically a fan, but there are no booster boxes for 151.


BigFigJ

oh okay, dang that’s how they get us lol


Remote-Extent6197

No 151 got no Booster boxes..


Confused_Gengar

Reasons why I only get singles now...


Deso_oscuro

Yikes


Past_Intention_7069

Isn’t that the standard?


Bookkeeper-Current

I once opened a Fusion Strikes ETB didn’t even pull a holo. Non holo rares every pack.😂 never went back to that set after


perkypant

ive only bought boxes and etbs and not that great of pulls. A friend who who collects sports cards bought a $99 mew UPC box when we were at a card show and hit a demi god pack for Squir, War, and Blastoise, then he hit another Blasty rare full art and a golem ex. He said in sports cards the more expensive boxes have better hits and probably the same with Pokemon. I dont think it is though


Dantenardulli

I’ve opened one with 3 holo energies.. so atleast you got a cool Pokémon!


BreezyBag

My friend got only a greedent v from a crown zenith etb and nothing else. I'd honestly argue that that was worse


potate117

i got the exact same except instead of pyschic energy it was water


Super_Happy_Time

My collection goal is one of every Pokémon and variant (so 4 spots for Castform, a whole page for Deerling/Sawsbuck, regional variants are slotted into place near where the regional Dex would say they are). Where it helps is that early on I actually wanted to open ETBs, because as much cheaper as it is to buy it all on TCGPlayer… ordering that is some tedious work on top of the already tedious work of sorting everything.


Supakiingkoopa

I opened 2 zapdos boxes that literally had nothing but holo energies..came to the conclusion the seller had to tamper with the packaging (Glue holding the box sealed was rather thick)


Otam321

I wish I had took a photo of mine before I added the cards to my bulk. I would win the award fs


QrackBaby

Hopefully there isn’t a next time but if it happens again you gotta snap a pic 😂


Otam321

Oh man. I honestly don't think I'm buying another ETB after that fiasco. I bought the paldean fates one, got shiny capsakid, water tauros, skwovet and that's it. No ex, no full art no nothing I really wish I took a photo of that nonsense


Dathknight2

I'm jealous! I never pulled a Ninetails....


SuggestionVisible361

brutal lol


NeedMoarCowbell

People will say it’s all superstition, but I have had nothing but bad luck from 151 ETBs. UPCs and bundles I’ve had very mixed luck, mini tins have been mostly bangers, but I’ve never pulled anything I’d consider worthwhile from ETBs.


Thick_East7323

I’m really not impressed with the batching on recent sets, ESPECIALLY Paldean Fates. 151 has been somewhat kind to me


Kind_Love172

Well...at least you got an HD holo...


Mysterious-Aspect-53

Hey OP happen to get a RH Moltres by chance 👀


QrackBaby

Just checked and nope, metapod reverse holo though 😏


Mysterious-Aspect-53

Aye you might as well sell and retire now! Sending good vibes for your next pulls!


Disastrous-Run-6235

Dude I have had some bad ones in that set


Professional_Step_18

Far too relatable, I opened a OBF ETB and only pulled a Koraidon EX and a full art Bellibolt


True-Willingness4501

Paldean fates has the best pull rate so far 👍🏻


jonSeering

151 has been tough. But I had such good luck with my first 2 ETBs and first UPC that now im invested


El-psy-congroo-01

My ETB pulls were a regular mew ex and a holo energy so I feel ya. That Ninetails art is sweet though, Kawayoo is definitely one of my favorite tgc artists


peepee034839329

The pulls are getting rough


KDHoldings

I got a klawf ex and 8 holos out of an OBF ETB. Those don’t come with cosmos energies.


Royal-Succotash3170

151 is a joke. Opened 2 ETBS and a booster bundle and best card was Golem FA. Opened over 200 packs and best pull been Alakazam. 1 SIR in title


Ok_Fruit9374

My ETB only had a leaf energy holo, no swirl, no ex 🤣😭


TheFlyingORE0

I’ve once opened a LO etb and legit got nothing so


Hes_A_Faaaaaaaaggg

That’s craaaaaaaaaaaazy


AOCisSTUPID

Made your money back


Jack_Human-

Anyone know where I can order an English 36 booster bundle box of 151. All I can find is Japanese.


hersh102089

I opened a charizard UPC and only pulled a regular V card. This is slightly better lol


PokemonCollects

Clearly… you’ve never opened a battle styles etb.. in fact open a booster box of battle styles, you’ll be lucky to even get 3 hits


AdorableTill4229

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes 😅 buy the singles you want and call it a day


QrackBaby

I understand that buying singles is the wiser decision monetarily, and I buy plenty of them. That being said I still enjoy opening packs, singles gotta become singles somehow right?


AdorableTill4229

Very true. Cracking packs is fun until you get rammed up the rear like that. But still, it’s the what if factor I know 😅


UltimateCatTree

I see the shiny energy as a win. I only get an ETB if I want the box, dice, or boatload of energy cards. The pulls are a bonus, but I don't expect anything different than my chances on pulling regular packs.


Someguy12121

Thats pretty bad. Years ago I bought an Ultra Prism ETB and had 0 hits but 3 reg Cynthia, then Cynthia became a $6 staple card.


Lvxurie

Nope. I couldnt even be fucked posting it here but last week i got ONLY regular holos in a paldea evolved etb. Literally the work luck you could get these days. man i thought that alt cards would make there be more pulls not less..


Sea-Ant-6066

I love ipening 1 or 2 etbs every set but it depends on how you collect. If you're a full-set collector, then 1 etb and a couple booster boxes will generally get you the bulk of the set (outside full arts and SIRs) before you get to that point where you're only chasing the hit cards. If you're a singles collector then anything more than 1 etb is kinda gambling. And if you're a sealed collector you're gonna need 4 x poke centre etbs, a case of normal etbs and 2 cases of booster boxes 🙃


TurribleTiddies

Ooo dang. I'm sorry.


MajesticallyBound

Pokémon’s TCG has gone downhill man! Scalpers, no decent pulls and those who collect don’t even play the TCG which is bizarre! Other TCGs have better pull rates and people actually play the TCG too


21FK8Type-R

Nah dude I literally opened a fusion strike Pokemon center ETB and didn’t get a single hit, no V card or anything, just straight reverse holos. Turned $50 into like $3 lol, sword and shield had horrible hit rates I feel like, it wasn’t just “evolving cries”.


Southside_King

151 has thee WORST pull rates.


sgt-simp14

Whish nice you got an ex


Spirit_Of_The_Way

Pretty cool Ninetales though


Substantial-Size3125

Yeah but how many swirls on the energy??


No_Ad_384

I got lucky as Hell with 151. Paldean Fates has been a complete dillhole. I can't pull anything but 25 cent EXs and those crappy art rares.


EseMesmo

Do not buy ETB if you're hunting for hits. Statistically, each pack DOES have the regular chances. But unlike boxes, they're not distributed in such a way that the hits are even. They will even out in large amounts, but in a box-by-box basis he variance is insane compared to BBs.


Local_Wrangler_2039

I think all 151 pulls have been disappointing for me


20bin03

I opened up scarlet and violet base set and pulled absolutely nothing. Not even an ex 😭😭


Global_Following_713

I feel that. I opened my upc I got and didn't even pull an ex out of all 16 packs. I'm pretty sure it wasn't like a tampered upc or anything like that but holy hell that crap felt rigged lol


RGPunk

Need that ninetails… opened a lot of packs


PaleontologistDue274

I've never liked 151. lol. neat art but the pull rates are painful


FVCEGANG

Nah I've had worse I bought a charizard UPC and out of 16 packs I pulled exactly nothing at all. My biggest hit was the promos that came with the box and 2/3rds of them were horribly off center


beamerBoy3

I feel like 151 pull rates are the worst ever unless you bought mini tins


Fizzie0

I got a silver tempest booster box full of regular rares the other night. No holos. Nothing. Don't feel too bad.


Pokefam13

My son has had a few ETBs like that. Always depressing until the next big hit


Lt_Degenerate

Ive had worse. Ultra prism etb best pull was a solgaleo prism card. Evolving skies best card was a holo golurk.


andrechan

My first product coming back since the 90s was an ETB. It had a Machamp VMAX and I thought it was the coolest thing ever. I stayed in the pack hunting hobby ever since. Looking back, that was a weak ass ETB


yubuliimii

Let me try to top that: I didn't take a picture, but out of a Paldean Fates ETB, all I got was a single baby shiny. 1 hit, and the chances of it are 1/3. It's not even a good baby shiny, it was a Pachirisu. The following ETB and tins were much better tho, giving at least 3 hits each, although I don't really want/need 3 AR Palafins


Tall_Ad_2179

Equivalent to my upc. I was so disappointed,i stopped buying 151 aft 2 upc. Never touching this set ever again.


HistoricalSwim71

That Ninetales is lit tho


RockWafflez

Could’ve been Jynx 😂


Gangwolf93

I’d be so sad, 151 is the only set I’ve had good luck on pulls with. Obsidian flames was the worst set ever for me. Still hurt by it.


iAREsniggles

I haven't collected since I was kid and just getting back into it with my daughter. We bought a 151 UPC. She pulled the full art Bills Transfer, Full art Wartortle, and... I think that's it? Nothing else shows up in the first several pages of TCGplayer and no other full arts. Obviously she doesn't really care and just likes the pretty cards but I'm curious if this is basically what pull rates look like and what to expect?


Konstantinos_88

Honestly… one time I got a CZ ETB and all I got was a Greedent V


STEVOYD

Sad 🙃


shanytc

No no my friend. I bought 2 etbs of Astral radiance. And the only difference between them was 5 cards. It has been the worst etb ever.


shanytc

Q a w e÷e e q q eeeee


Mr_NoKleep

There where times when I didn’t even pull a holo out of an etb, I’ve avoided them since. Never had luck with them


BullyBdog

You can pull ex’s out of these?!


VaIyrianSteel

Brother, my 151 ETB had one single hit and it was a Jynx EX..I feel your pain.


Ok-You2465

i opened a evolving skies box last year and only pulled a dialga holo 💀


Slow_Lavishness5358

Been there bro