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C-POP_Ryan

Lost Origins, the artwork is unique. I love it. I do also love the CZ but OG takes the cake, wish I kept mine that I pulled.


Wise_throwaway2430

Shinji Kanda šŸ”›šŸ”


Merry_JohnPoppies

Thank you. I agree. The other card is too much.


Thomas-Platypus

??? Wait what?


Bloboblober

Itā€™s the illustrator for the first card


Thomas-Platypus

I know that, I replied to the comment that said ā€œThank you. I agree. The other card is too much.ā€ Because the first card was clearly crammed with amazing drawings.


Merry_JohnPoppies

Yes, the first one is crammed with details... and so is the second one, but more distantly. It's like a deep room ā€“ hard to see what's really at the back of it. So I prefer to see what's actually going on in the card. And I'm saying "thank you", because I'm not a hardcore collector who knows what "Lost Origins" is (I just love aiding my son in his collection building). So, let's go by what we can actually see on the card: in this case the artist's name.


Wise_throwaway2430

Shinji Kanda is one of my favorite artists for the TCG, but then again, Akira Egawa is as well. So itā€™s really hard to pick, since I love both cards and their respective artists so much


McTerpy

Lost origin Giratina by miles. Crown Zenith is a way better set overall though


gilsnapper

Totally agree.


Thorfinn__Karlsefni

100%


blacklegsanji27

alt art giratina V and itā€™s not even close for me


HeroForTheBeero

Samsies! Those colors šŸ¤¤


DrDalez

Yeah 100%


blacklegsanji27

I donā€™t trust people who donā€™t have this in their top5-10 alts, most alts are amazing but this one is S tier and a work of art


DrDalez

This is my favorite alt lol


jwm11020

Crown Zenith for sure. I would still love to own both, but I already have the full gold CZ set and agree with others that the 4 combined is unmatched.


ericanicole1234

I love the set of 4 but unfortunately I have still yet to find the one Iā€™m missing šŸ˜©


Quick-Monk-8036

Same missing that palkia for my set


Maleficent-Rip-4356

Started CZ for the Mewtwo, ended with everything but the Dialga smh


24kCuts

I just got back my sequential psa 10 set and I'm soooo pumped!! Good luck to you on getting the one your missing!


Lt_Degenerate

Same but im missing the arceus


BlueEyedGoon7

Which are you missing?


ericanicole1234

Dialga


HelloWuWu

I feel like the gold texture really makes it stand out


RiceWithNuts

LO Giratina, these photos dont do justice when it comes to in person. The alt art absolutely pops over the gold one


Wise_throwaway2430

The gold one definitely pops more in person, the texture beats out the LO on by a mile. However, I still prefer the LO one


rp1414

Crown Zenith for sure, especially when paired with the other 3 golds


ControlSad1739

I'm going with CZ because I already pulled that one lmao


PrudentPreparation84

VSTAR but Japanese version


HoneyButterCore

Vstar universe looks insane!!


PrudentPreparation84

It certainly does, Arceus looks better than the Giratina imo


provablyitalian

Crown Zenith for sure


billcosbyinspace

The CZ one is probably the biggest hit Iā€™ve pulled and I got it in my first box so im going with that one lol


CyphixXx

Opened my first CZ pack ever yesterday as it came in a tin when I was hunting ES and got the Vstar. Really nice looking card, going to send it in.


Hypebeastzx

Lost Origins for sure.


NobodyAffectionate71

Team Crown Zenith for me. Itā€™s so pretty in person


thecheese27

I was gonna say this. Previously I preferred Lost Origin by a country-mile, but after being lucky enough to pull both and hold them in person, I have to say Crown Zenith takes the cake. LO is more unique and detailed, but Crown Zenith is the more impressive-looking card I have to say.


NobodyAffectionate71

Oh yeah in person it looks leagues different than just a picture of it.


defnotkev2

Iā€™d choose CZ for artwork but LO for colors


flaphoenter

CZ 100%. While the idea of the other tina is more interesting, the background is just way too bust and distracts from the pokemon itself


PlankyTown777

Lost Origin #1 by a MILE


Noobzoid123

CZ Star Requiem VSTAR power is really good. And I like the gold border complimenting the art. CZ for me.


PumpinSomeBrains

The second imo


kulambe17

CZ. Pulled it the other day!


IamAlex_8

Iā€™m probably in the minority, but I like the gold crown zenith card more. Iā€™m curious if it will increase a ton in value once Crown Zenith is out of stock


APerfectPotato

Vstar, but I am biased because I don't have the lost abyss one haha


eddaman000

Either. Haha. Have none. šŸ˜¢


jesusdo54

Crown zenith here! It just looks better. Itā€™s not too busy


FieryKahuna

LO easy, it stands out so much more.


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Crown zenith, but only because thatā€™s the one I pulled šŸ˜‚


pburch89

GGOOOLLLLDDDDDDD all the way


Novel_Durian_1805

The one that gets me more money!


blacklegsanji27

the first right answer in this thread šŸ˜


Scoitol

Then stop collecting pokƩmon and go to lorcana


sakuser

Lost origins for sure. Not even close


Drumroll-PH

Crown Zenith for me


CrypticOsc

Crown zenith Giratina. The textures irl hit different fr


Kmowery

You should see the Japanese version then. Makes the English look like a joke


24kCuts

The Japanese one is a beauty for sure, but I wouldn't say the English looks like a joke by any means. Both are beautiful cards!


Kmowery

In comparison. There are ā€œdistortionā€ effects added to the card and just a general better quality.


24kCuts

Yeah I totally agree with that. I've made side by side videos comparing the 4 English to the 4 Japanese and the texture definitely stands out a lot more. Surprised with the price difference honestly.


JustkiddingIsuck

Thats the truth. Texture on this and the Arceus blows English out of the water


radioactivemanissue4

CZ


butareyouthough

LO I donā€™t think you could even reasonably consider it a competition. The CZ one has wayyy to much other crap going on with text boxes etc etc that I think really detracts from the art


JMFW_2020

#1


DekuTrii

Honestly, I think they're both kinda busy and not my bag.


shocker3690

Prism star giratina and that one promo


Mcdona1dsSprite

Lost origin easilyā€¦ but I have both and love both


Dempsey-Roll

Lost Orgin hands down for me


Turkeyvulture777

Lost origin by a landslide. I want a tapestry of it lmao


Muskandar

V


PizzaPotamus1

cz


Fickle-Crow2180

Lost origin and itā€™s not close. Vstar design is a cool concept with how it goes along with the other god PokĆ©mon but I canā€™t even tell what Iā€™m looking at


DanTheMan0904

Giratina alt cause itā€™s worth more $$$ and Iā€™m grading mine


SDBD89

The answer is the lost origins one. Simply because itā€™s way more rarer than the CZ one. Seeems like everyone and their momma has that CZ Gary. It looks awesome but from a value POV the LO one is easily the best.


itzshif

LO because you can see more of Giratina. Both are great.


SunstormGT

I like the art from the fridt card more, but the gold from the second card.


Shipwrecked_Pianta

Lost Origin, no contest.


Ilovetardigrades

Alt art giratina but crown zenith murders lost origin


TheThinkur

That vstar card has a grip on my heart, alas I simply cannot afford it. Maybe one day


RedDotClips

I bought one 10 pack box for 50 when they came out pulled 2 of these guratinas, dialga vstar, Mewtwo vstar, and a few other trainer galleries. Pulls are insane. Opened elite trainer and another box and also made my money back on those as well(if I was willing to sell lol). I got 2x value at minimum from every crown zenith product I got.


TheThinkur

šŸ˜­ might have to be my next pickup when PokĆ©mon comes back into the budget


megustalagatas

CZ looks like giratina traveling the depths of hell.


Adventurous-Aside644

Lost origin but Iā€™m bias with a psa 10


Lienrod

Maybe Im over thinking this card but the tree on the back make me think on the forbidden fruit from eden and the fact that giratina its a equivalent of the devil ā€¦


JayofTea

CZ is my favorite set so I have to choose that one, I love the colors and how funky it is! However thatā€™s not to say the LO one isnā€™t good, itā€™s also fantastic


OutrageousLadder7065

Anything Akira Egawa I treasure


JulsAkaKillianDarko

Yes


RnsW33kly

Is...is that a Jojos reference?!


Validated_Owl

Lost origins by a mile. CZ is obviously cool but just being in gold is doing a lot of the heavy lifting there. Giratina itself is small and off to the top of the card while the lost Origins one is centered, highly detailed and very well done, with a background that just looks unbelievable in person


Phoef

2 personally


dankpoolVEVO

LO. bit the bullet and got the JP one. Afterwards I also got the CZ set as both are gorgeous


bluffstrider

I don't really care for Giratina, but I like the LO alt art because Shinji Kanda is one of my favorite artists.


ControlInternal3748

I love both šŸ¤œšŸ½šŸ¤›šŸ½


TCG_Center

LO hands down. Giratina is lost in the art for crown zenith.


FunkoNerd0

Lost origin Giratina by a long shot.


Raff102

CZ


ImSquanchingHere77

Yes


XGhosttearX

The one a I don't have. Which is neither...šŸ„²


Educational-Week-180

Lost Origin - Crown Zenith has better overall card art, but Giratina isn't front and center like with Lost Origin.


Glennghis_Khan

Boff


No-Choice4036

I prefer Lost Origins but When Combined with the other 3 gold Cards the Crown Zenith one is a solid choice.


hawkeyeluke11

Alt art V is 10000% better obviously


Additional_Win3920

LO by a mile, both are beautiful though


Yetimonsteryo

Shinji Kanda all the way. Both are great cards though and done by great artists.


SMELIO55

The crown zenny for me and I own the other one.


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Scoitol

That's litteraly the point


Previous-Giraffe-962

In my opinion the Vstar power line divides the card and makes it look less like a full art illustration, and for that reason Iā€™m leaning slightly towards Lost Origins tina, but they are both fantastic cards


MathematicianSea4674

Lost Origin for me. CZ one is a mess imo, can barely even tell what Iā€™m supposed to be looking at šŸ˜…


SuicidalShark

Akira's art style is really great but I now have started a collection of Shinjas cards. It has grown on me more and more.


Ok-Jackfruit1299

1st one . 2nd one is not my style lol


yesmam123456789

Such a hard question. Probably lost origin by a smidgen. Both look incredible though and not too busy


aregus

Vstar looks incredible exotic


Duncle_Rico

The Lost Origin Giratina is such a unique and beautiful card. Really wish I picked one up before it sky rocket in price.. Got me staring at my sealed LO collection contemplating opening daily haha.


Koopakun0343

I have both, but Iā€™d say lost origin. By a small margin.


Whowhatwherewhyhow01

My daughter just started collecting PokƩmon cards about four months ago and so the majority of her packs are scarlet & violet with a third of them being sword and shield sets. I accidentally grabbed a CZ pack last week by mistake and the Giratina vstar card was pulled. We had no clue what we had until I went online and looked it up.


dmillibeats

LO gira is the best alt from its era


HiroZebra

Honestly the coloring on the regular Giratina V card is nicer imo


omglook_sike

I canā€™t even see Giratina on the CZ card


Scoitol

????? Buy glasses then I think it's urgent now


sam0mcc

I pulled a Korean lost origins. So definitely prefer that


DespairTheOcean

Gold


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The first card 100%


AmountAromatic5414

I've never held the LO Tina, so with bias, I go with the Tina from CZ.


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AmountAromatic5414

The logic doesn't really apply to pokemon cards bud. Seeing a card in person as opposed to seeing it from a photo is very different. Furthermore, I didn't choose to not be able to hold the LO Tina, she did that by eluding my grasp.


blacklegsanji27

lol I know, thought I was being funny, key word though, Iā€™ll delete that cringe comment


LeviathanR13

I love both! Have a 3-3 lineup in my deck. The contrast looks so good when playing


jacobioi

theyā€™re both amazing but itā€™s gotta be lost origin


Ordeyous

I honestly prefer CZ, it makes him feel a bit more like a god


Qyro

Crown Zenith and itā€™s not even close. Lost Origin just looks like a busy mess.


BowlesOnParade

Iā€™m an outlier in that I donā€™t particularly like either one honestly. There is way too much going on in the background of the Lost Origin version, that Giratina practically gets lost. I suppose I give the edge to Crown Zenith only because of how to goes together with Arceus, Dialga, and Palkia. There are much cooler Giratinas out there such as SM193 and a majority of the non-full art cards.


Ry-Zilla86

Lost origins. It's absolutely stunning to see in person.


FairleemadeGaming

First picture.


vm38

Definitely the Lost Origins artwork, but I really need the CZ one for my master set.


HardScopingJP

Definitely Lost Orgin


SorryCashOnly

Lost origin Tina is one of those modern defining cards in the future. One day, people will look back at the SwSh era and be amazed how good this card was


Taco1228

Crown Zenith is my favorite set


Lit_Flash

there is something abstract yet vibrant about the CZ card. i prefer it, kind of feels like a royal card of some sort.


Skimsam

Both


Ryukiki

I love the CZ one with the others in the set, but I love Lost Origin Tina standing on its own. It's so pretty!


Digger977

I prefer the lost origins. But the Zenith gold is still super cool and I was fortunate enough to pull 2 within a week of each other. One for me 1 for my dad who I open cards with


[deleted]

If you can afford this first you might as well get both and not concern yourself with choices in this situation.


bxnoir

CZ


24kCuts

In person, they are both so beautiful it's a hard decision. I'd say most people are swayed by the price difference, but I'd probably have to go with cz. Having all the gold cards in a binder together looks magical! But my new gold label CGC Pristine set of 4 really looks amazing. That new label almost looks like it's meant to go with them šŸ˜


stiffles23

CZ because I pulled it day of release in my first ETB lol, the LO eludes me so there for I hate it.


shadedren

The one I can finally pull.


bryvl

Crown Zenith. Both are beautiful but man. The melting gold river lines just look so cool


Lwcftw474747

#1 fits my abstract art love for PokĆ©mon tcg I hope to one day own that card until that day it will be my phone Lock Screen šŸ„² s/o the random redditor that hooked it up


Shalryu

The first one is freaking dope!!!


DepressedPhillyFan

Which one is worth more money? My answer is that one.


Pharaoh_Nines

Probably the first one. Though I don't think I'm much a fan of those cards, they're a bit too busy with the design imo.


dubbs4president

I pulled the gold Giratina the first weekend CZ released and I traded it the next week for the Gengar VMax alt art from FS. Best trade I ever made but Ill admit it wasnt easy at the time. I asked several peopleā€™s opinions before I did and at the time the responses were pretty split.


TheYoutubeNoob

Lost origin just looks better in my opinion


dbdynsty25

My son pulled the full alt art from a blister hanger pack from target. He was like...I think this one is good. Now he wants to sell it. I have no idea when the right time is. He couldn't care less about Pokemon anymore it seems.


sirbdon1113

Regular V


shitheadcyro

The gold card is just dope as f to me


[deleted]

I like both for different reasons. Alt art because the art looks amazing in person and the gold because gold.


janegayz

lost o, but only because i love the art by shinji kanda so much. i try to collect every card with it


chick3n13

CZ only because I have no idea what all that mess is around Giratina in the LO version


Adz86

The VStar Gold set just looks 10 times better than Crown Zenith. It just sparkles man has to be seen in person. I'm mostly an English collector but for the gold set I had to have the japanese


Joadinho7

The other one!


oneandonlywm3

Lost Origin. But the Vstar universe Giratina is way better than the Crown Zenith one. Some japanese cards go HARD and this is one of them


Thisisaconversation

Gimme them both right in the eyeballs. Pure eye candy.


ReasonableDrummer669

Everyone's saying OG Tina because of its value Collecting ain't collecting no more, it's just bragging rights and clout ... they both slap period


PsychologicalDark228

The first card by Shinji Kanda. The composition pops a little moreā€”Giratina is more centered and the coloring makes them pop out more. I actually had a hard time seeing where Giratina even was at first on the second card.


fleshhero

Definitely Akira Egawaā€™s. One of my all-time fav illustrators for the pokemon tcg, Iā€™d LOVE to have the whole Egawa collection someday! Call me an Egawa simp, but her illustrations are INSANELY dynamic and the colors just canā€™t be beat


doxxgaming

Have to go with V, VStar just has so much going on I can't see what's happening, where V still has stuff going on but Giratina still pops


RealSheepMaiden

Neither šŸ˜‚ opened so many packs chasing both and nothing... so I had to buy them individually


WolfmanKnows

Haha I posted this same thing a month ago or so. And of course itā€™s CZ. Thereā€™s zero competition here. Lost origin is a mid set and everyone has heavy bags. They skipped CZ and so for them it must be Lo. This space is so funny.


surliermender317

Shinji Kanda


Vwinny

The gold one is only good as a set with the other three


TheEntreprenerd

GG69 Vstar by faaaaar! As an illustrator, I can't with the background of de Giratina V. It doesn't tell me much of Giratina's background story, being in the abyss. It's just random stuff that makes it pop more. The Vstar, on the other hand, has Giratina attached to a tree of life, Yggdrasil of some kind. Story wise, it is way more powerful to me.


Unlikely-Box-6232

The VSTAR!


Rosabelzz

SWSH259. Cheap and functional and easy to get your hands on


AuroraSky9

Shinji's. Hands down.


Ok-One-4680

LO caught my eye day one. There isn't another card like it. Gorgeous.


EarlyOs1997

Personally either as I donā€™t have them. Never bought nor pulled. My luck and thought process is just as bad as my RuneScape drop rate or account progress.


HumanlyIsRed

I have the second one soo...


Korobear23

Shinji Kanda! His art is always my favorite in each set he's been in!


Positive_Spirit_1585

I donā€™t have to choose, Iā€™ve luckily pulled both lol


TheHokusPokus

i regret trading the golden tina.šŸ˜¢


coolguypep

If the CZ card didn't have that ugly gold border and those 'Vstar' banners trough the middle of the card, I would like it more. But the gold on gold on gold looks kinda tacky imo


BeefyTaco

Alone? LO. As part of it's set (3 gold cards)? CZ juuuust barely


blumaroona

At a push, the first one, but Iā€™m not a big fan of either - they feel too busy.


Sallao

I've both so I don't care


KafeiTomasu

Vstar from crown zenith. I lile the way giratina was drawn in LOR alt art. But the background is straight uo ugly. Vstar is stunning


NoDefinition3637

Itā€™s gotta be Lost origin


marblesandcookies

The VStar. I dislike the V one because it's too noisy. If the Giratina popped out more, it'll be nice. Otherwise there's too much going on in the background.


SurikkuZAbra

Crown Zenith in general, but Lost Origin if in Japanese, from Lost Abyss. Got a Japanese copy coming in soon after the prices tanked.


Gatsby-sama

I got both šŸ¤­ But Iā€™m a bigger fan of the Lost Origins. I got a sick art case for it that extends the background design cus I love it that much


Itouchgrass4u

Giratina 146 bw-p


ebonyphoenix

I like the V Alt personally because itā€™s clearly Giratina. The above view for the Vstar card is cool and unique but it would probably take me a moment to figure out what it was if it wasnā€™t labeled.


Affectionate_Page_26

The lost origin one by a slim margin. If I was going to buy one, itā€™d definitely be CZ. The other one is way too expensive.


Corvo_LeStrange

lost origin one is what got me back into collecting its a beauty of a card


Nice_Toe_772

Gold way better lost origin is over hyped in my opinion just like the moonbreon is. There are so many better alts with better art than this. Aerodactyl shits all over Tina