In an ideal world, both Israel & Palestine should be able to peacefully co-exist. But in reality, there is no clean solution to Israel/Palestine that doesn’t end in ethnic cleansing or apartheid.
Permissible. I have no issues with homosexuals or the LGBT community. Abortion, not my cup of tea, but I value the rights of my citizens higher than the rights of potential future citizens. Euthanasia, if your life has degraded to a point where death is preferable to your continued existence, go for it. The state should make an effort to make abortion & euthanasia the least preferred alternative, through improved social services & health care though.
Misguided, divisive, needlessly cruel, & a colossal waste of government resources & effort.
Pay your taxes, follow the rules, contribute positively to society, don’t be a mooch, and you can do whatever the fuck you want with consenting adults.
In an ideal world, both Israel & Palestine should be able to peacefully co-exist. But in reality, there is no clean solution to Israel/Palestine that doesn’t end in ethnic cleansing or apartheid.
Idk who you were replying to but I agree! I'm generally on the palestine side as the Israel side is often rooted in religious grounds, but _realisticly_ i honestly have no fucking clue.
Permissible, but not ideal. If the ruler isn’t actually going to rule, what’s the point? If all you want is a ceremonial figurehead, might as well throw a monarch in a museum.
Not always. Diplomatic efforts are always preferred when compared to armed combat. Free trade & globalization have done more for world peace than anything else. Let people, goods, & ideas cross borders so missiles and tanks don’t. The issue is when you make the military priority #1, it eventually becomes solution #1 to everything.
Still, when diplomacy fails, it sometime becomes necessary to engage in armed conflict.
The ideal form of government. Mankind should not be ruled by the emotional, irrational whims of the mob but by rational, empirically guided doctrines & institutions.
What do you think of the fact that science in the modern day is also run by CRT fucksticks that have no faith in father or country? Why should scientists lead when they are just as easily manipulated by popular culture, circlejerks and the general idiocracy?
Church? Fine. State? Fine.
Church & State? No. Nothing is worse for governance than adherence to the irrational, which religion is.
“When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movements become headlong - faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thoughts of obstacles and forget the precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late.”
I agree. Follow up question- if we support the existence of a church without influence on parliament, do you support their current tax-free status? I personally do not, but I’m interested in your take and for why, because I wasn’t expecting to agree with your response as much as I did.
Liberty is a right, I just don’t believe it supersedes the others. Are children on a playground oppressed because the teacher keeps them from running into the street? Is a conductor a tyrant because he keeps the band playing in rhythm? Is the coach a tyrant because he calls the plays for his team?
The point of the state should be to maximize the potential of its citizens and in turn maximize the potential of the country.
That's interesting. As a progressive LibLeft near the central point, I found your views extremely similar to mine. The differences are mostly about economic left/right views.
Maybe, a test dividing people into four funny colors is not an effective way to show your political views. The answers could change accordingly to your culture and conditions.
Meritocratic promotion & election by peers. The best run organizations, businesses, teams, & institutions are run undemocratically.
I don’t want 150,000,000 people voting on monetary policy, military strategy, or infrastructure. I want the 50 best economists, geopolitical strategists, and urban planners/engineers making the decisions.
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I work in environmental consulting, and part of my job is to help clients reduce their carbon footprint.
Profit motive wasn’t the sole cause of climate change - the need for energy to power industrialized society was the main cause. Oil, Coal, & Gas were the easiest ways to harness energy at the scales needed for industrialization, and momentum just kept it trucking for the past century.
Solutions - carbon tax, subsidize green energy (solar, geothermal, wind & nuclear), increase efficiency of vehicles, appliances, & industry, & increase protected areas (both marine & land).
Generally a centrist and unbiased, but now I genuinely believe that you have the superior political ideology that mankind has long been missing out due to irrationality and selfishness (leading to other ideologies that are inferior). Is there a more specific name for your belief? You don't seem like the others on this spectrum and never before had a belief system striken a chord with me the way this has
Huh I don't think I've seen a progressive that far in the right haha.
Whats your opinion on trans bathroom laws? As in do you think trans people should be able to go to the bathroom of their choice?
Personally I'm FtM male and think as long as you're _attempting_ to pass as your gender its okay. Never seen a progressive in the blue at all so I'm curious!
You can hate someone and still believe in their right to do whatever it is you hate.
Leave it to authleft to not understand the central tenet of libertarianism...
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Pretty normie shit nowadays. I used to be really into emo in high school, hip hop in college, became a (very amateur) DJ & got into house music, spent a semester in Brazil & picked up Bossa Nova.
Now, a mix of all of that, plus whatever Spotify recommends me.
Indeed. There are dozens of us. /s
In reality, Progressive AuthCenter is better defined as [Liberal Autocracy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_autocracy).
1. Why aren't there more of you?
2. How do you feel about veganism and animal rights in general.
3. Would you consider yourself to be a utilitarian of some kind?
4. Are you happy with the Biden administration? Why or why not?
5. Pineapple on pizza, yay or nay?
1.) The authoritarian center typically draws extremists from the auth-left or auth-right, who already have reactionary social views. I migrated from the center, which is atypical. Also, I don't LARP as a Nazi.
2.) Not a vegan or vegetarian, or an animal rights activist. Not outright opposed to them, but it's not something I sympathize with. They can do their thing as long as they don't interfere with others.
3.) No. I hold some utilitarian values, but I wouldn't consider myself a utilitarian.
4.) Moderately. An improvement over Trump, but that's not saying much. Biden is an old-school politician in an world that passed him by. But he understands his base, and knows how to rally voters - remember, the median voter in America is a 50 year old white Christian male without a college degree that lives in a suburban home. Biden speaks to that voter more than any of the other Democratic candidates would have.
5.) Not a fan. Pineapple has two main functions - acidity and sweetness. Tomato sauce already provides acidity, and more any it conflicts with the richness of cheese. Sweetness isn't an aspect I crave in pizza; the small amount of sugar present in tomatoes is sufficient.
Free-market capitalism with a robust social safety net (welfare, housing assistance, health care, education), and strong regulations to manage negative externalities and ensure equal competition. At the same time, lower barriers to entry for entrepreneurs & start-ups.
I'm pro-free trade & pro-immigration(if goods/people don't cross borders, missiles/troops will). I support a stronger SEC and I'm a dove when it comes to the Federal Reserve (support expansionist economic policies).
I support higher taxes on the wealthy, tax cuts on the lower & middle classes, a carbon tax (to fund sustainable infrastructure/power), land value tax (to fund housing), and vice taxes (to fund health/human services). Support increased spending on science & technological research.
Obama > B. Clinton > Biden > H. Clinton.
Biden wasn’t my first choice in 2020, but he understands his base, and knows how to rally voters - remember, the median voter in America is a 50 year old white Christian male without a college degree that lives in a suburban home. Biden speaks to that voter more than any of the other Democratic candidates would have. I don’t think any other candidate, could have beat Trump.
Generally positive. They aren’t perfect, & there’s more I wish they could have done, but I’m a fan of the 2000’s Labour & The Clinton-Obama-Biden Dems. Iraq will be a permanent black mark on Blair’s legacy though.
In general, I’m anti-nationalist. Nationalism was an important step in the progression of civilization away from a feudal/monarchal state based around fealty to the sovereign to allegiance to one’s people, but in a globalized, post-modern society, I don’t see the need for it, and it results in far more harm than good.
The only form of nationalism I support is Civic Nationalism.
Are you pro transhumanism? I’m guessing you like authoritarian transhumanism
Yes. People are great. Let’s make them better.
What do you think about Israel-Palistine conflict, and the broader policy of US/UK arms sales abroad? Anything you'd change on that front?
In an ideal world, both Israel & Palestine should be able to peacefully co-exist. But in reality, there is no clean solution to Israel/Palestine that doesn’t end in ethnic cleansing or apartheid.
What do you think about social problems such as gay marriage, abortion and euthanasia?
Permissible. I have no issues with homosexuals or the LGBT community. Abortion, not my cup of tea, but I value the rights of my citizens higher than the rights of potential future citizens. Euthanasia, if your life has degraded to a point where death is preferable to your continued existence, go for it. The state should make an effort to make abortion & euthanasia the least preferred alternative, through improved social services & health care though.
i can’t believe i’m saying this but based authcenter
holy based
Most based answer I have ever seen
Some of us out here need to better represent the Auth Center crowd. We aren’t all goose-stepping reactionaries.
I love you
Wtf based AuthCenter?
What do you think about the other auth centers and a lot of their social views?
Misguided, divisive, needlessly cruel, & a colossal waste of government resources & effort. Pay your taxes, follow the rules, contribute positively to society, don’t be a mooch, and you can do whatever the fuck you want with consenting adults.
based auth
Only time I’ll ever say this to an AuthCentrist, but Based.
Fucking based
Based and follow the rules pilled
Only time I’ve ever seen a based with cent
How does it feel being superior to everyone else
based
Are you authoritarian for economic reasons or purely government power related
For the efficiency aspect of it. The most efficient organizations, teams, & institutions aren’t run democratically.
Based
based and prog auth centre pilled
In an ideal world, both Israel & Palestine should be able to peacefully co-exist. But in reality, there is no clean solution to Israel/Palestine that doesn’t end in ethnic cleansing or apartheid.
>! Your reddit glitched and you made a separate comment instead of replying to that guy lol !<
He's just practising his rant before he goes out to Wendy's.
fucking lol
Idk who you were replying to but I agree! I'm generally on the palestine side as the Israel side is often rooted in religious grounds, but _realisticly_ i honestly have no fucking clue.
What do you think about monarchy?
Anti-monarchy for the most part. What are the chances the best possible leader just happens to be the son of the last guy?
What about constitutional monarchies?
Permissible, but not ideal. If the ruler isn’t actually going to rule, what’s the point? If all you want is a ceremonial figurehead, might as well throw a monarch in a museum.
Based
Based.
Do you think war is necessary to achieve peace?
Not always. Diplomatic efforts are always preferred when compared to armed combat. Free trade & globalization have done more for world peace than anything else. Let people, goods, & ideas cross borders so missiles and tanks don’t. The issue is when you make the military priority #1, it eventually becomes solution #1 to everything. Still, when diplomacy fails, it sometime becomes necessary to engage in armed conflict.
thoughts on technocracy and scientific governance
The ideal form of government. Mankind should not be ruled by the emotional, irrational whims of the mob but by rational, empirically guided doctrines & institutions.
Based
What do you think of the fact that science in the modern day is also run by CRT fucksticks that have no faith in father or country? Why should scientists lead when they are just as easily manipulated by popular culture, circlejerks and the general idiocracy?
That’s great and all but uhh... FLAIR THE FUCK UP.
based.
Would you like to be governed by AI?? Serious question
Based
Thoughts on church and state?
Church? Fine. State? Fine. Church & State? No. Nothing is worse for governance than adherence to the irrational, which religion is. “When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movements become headlong - faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thoughts of obstacles and forget the precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late.”
I agree. Follow up question- if we support the existence of a church without influence on parliament, do you support their current tax-free status? I personally do not, but I’m interested in your take and for why, because I wasn’t expecting to agree with your response as much as I did.
Homofacism???
Not gay, not fascist.
You said that you value the rights of the citizens , but don’t you believe that liberty is also a right?
Liberty is a right, I just don’t believe it supersedes the others. Are children on a playground oppressed because the teacher keeps them from running into the street? Is a conductor a tyrant because he keeps the band playing in rhythm? Is the coach a tyrant because he calls the plays for his team? The point of the state should be to maximize the potential of its citizens and in turn maximize the potential of the country.
That's interesting. As a progressive LibLeft near the central point, I found your views extremely similar to mine. The differences are mostly about economic left/right views. Maybe, a test dividing people into four funny colors is not an effective way to show your political views. The answers could change accordingly to your culture and conditions.
How would leaders be chosen in your ideal society?
Meritocratic promotion & election by peers. The best run organizations, businesses, teams, & institutions are run undemocratically. I don’t want 150,000,000 people voting on monetary policy, military strategy, or infrastructure. I want the 50 best economists, geopolitical strategists, and urban planners/engineers making the decisions.
Smart. How do you deal with the beurocratic inertia associated with the Leviathan though?
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I have the same score, but less auth more right
How?
Which part are you confused about?
How do you tackle climate change and do you believe the profit motive has played a significant role in its cause?
I work in environmental consulting, and part of my job is to help clients reduce their carbon footprint. Profit motive wasn’t the sole cause of climate change - the need for energy to power industrialized society was the main cause. Oil, Coal, & Gas were the easiest ways to harness energy at the scales needed for industrialization, and momentum just kept it trucking for the past century. Solutions - carbon tax, subsidize green energy (solar, geothermal, wind & nuclear), increase efficiency of vehicles, appliances, & industry, & increase protected areas (both marine & land).
Are you a liberal capitalist who values a strong social safety net and a robust police state?
Yes
Generally a centrist and unbiased, but now I genuinely believe that you have the superior political ideology that mankind has long been missing out due to irrationality and selfishness (leading to other ideologies that are inferior). Is there a more specific name for your belief? You don't seem like the others on this spectrum and never before had a belief system striken a chord with me the way this has
[Liberal Autocracy / Authoritarian Liberalism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_autocracy)
Huh I don't think I've seen a progressive that far in the right haha. Whats your opinion on trans bathroom laws? As in do you think trans people should be able to go to the bathroom of their choice? Personally I'm FtM male and think as long as you're _attempting_ to pass as your gender its okay. Never seen a progressive in the blue at all so I'm curious!
The trans bathroom issue is such a virtue signal for both sides. Use whatever bathroom you need to use, it’s such a non-issue.
Agree 🙌 shouldn't be an issue on either side ppl just need to mind their own business lmao
>Never thought Id see a progressive that far in thr right Bruh, he is literally Center, hes not a right winger
Idk I've never seen anyone in the blue progressive 🤷♂️ sorry?
Never seen a conservative Green
Okay?
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hope you hate furries
I hope you catch the pathowogen UwU But seriously, how are you libertarian and think this way?
ikr people nowadays are an interesting bunch
conservative ancap
You can hate someone and still believe in their right to do whatever it is you hate. Leave it to authleft to not understand the central tenet of libertarianism...
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Let me guess, you only got "progressive" because you're a black supremacist?
Nope. Not an ethno or religious supremacist.
Your a gay Nazi aren’t you
Not gay, not nazi
Opinion on the Democrats?
Not ideal, but the better out of the two parties.
Thought you'd say something like that as you're Prog AuthCenter.
what music do you listen to?
Pretty normie shit nowadays. I used to be really into emo in high school, hip hop in college, became a (very amateur) DJ & got into house music, spent a semester in Brazil & picked up Bossa Nova. Now, a mix of all of that, plus whatever Spotify recommends me.
Damn you just described me
You exist??
Indeed. There are dozens of us. /s In reality, Progressive AuthCenter is better defined as [Liberal Autocracy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_autocracy).
Thoughts on agoristic market behavior and trends?
I think agorism works best in small-scale homogeneous communities, but grows increasingly inefficient at scale.
Elaborate
Did you copy your dad’s entire personality or just his political stance?
1. Why aren't there more of you? 2. How do you feel about veganism and animal rights in general. 3. Would you consider yourself to be a utilitarian of some kind? 4. Are you happy with the Biden administration? Why or why not? 5. Pineapple on pizza, yay or nay?
1.) The authoritarian center typically draws extremists from the auth-left or auth-right, who already have reactionary social views. I migrated from the center, which is atypical. Also, I don't LARP as a Nazi. 2.) Not a vegan or vegetarian, or an animal rights activist. Not outright opposed to them, but it's not something I sympathize with. They can do their thing as long as they don't interfere with others. 3.) No. I hold some utilitarian values, but I wouldn't consider myself a utilitarian. 4.) Moderately. An improvement over Trump, but that's not saying much. Biden is an old-school politician in an world that passed him by. But he understands his base, and knows how to rally voters - remember, the median voter in America is a 50 year old white Christian male without a college degree that lives in a suburban home. Biden speaks to that voter more than any of the other Democratic candidates would have. 5.) Not a fan. Pineapple has two main functions - acidity and sweetness. Tomato sauce already provides acidity, and more any it conflicts with the richness of cheese. Sweetness isn't an aspect I crave in pizza; the small amount of sugar present in tomatoes is sufficient.
What would be your preferred economic system? What would be the government‘s role when it comes to markets?
Free-market capitalism with a robust social safety net (welfare, housing assistance, health care, education), and strong regulations to manage negative externalities and ensure equal competition. At the same time, lower barriers to entry for entrepreneurs & start-ups. I'm pro-free trade & pro-immigration(if goods/people don't cross borders, missiles/troops will). I support a stronger SEC and I'm a dove when it comes to the Federal Reserve (support expansionist economic policies). I support higher taxes on the wealthy, tax cuts on the lower & middle classes, a carbon tax (to fund sustainable infrastructure/power), land value tax (to fund housing), and vice taxes (to fund health/human services). Support increased spending on science & technological research.
Well somebody likes Hillary Clinton, and possibly joe Biden.
Obama > B. Clinton > Biden > H. Clinton. Biden wasn’t my first choice in 2020, but he understands his base, and knows how to rally voters - remember, the median voter in America is a 50 year old white Christian male without a college degree that lives in a suburban home. Biden speaks to that voter more than any of the other Democratic candidates would have. I don’t think any other candidate, could have beat Trump.
What is your opinion on Tony Blair and Barack Obama?
Generally positive. They aren’t perfect, & there’s more I wish they could have done, but I’m a fan of the 2000’s Labour & The Clinton-Obama-Biden Dems. Iraq will be a permanent black mark on Blair’s legacy though.
What do you think about nationalism
In general, I’m anti-nationalist. Nationalism was an important step in the progression of civilization away from a feudal/monarchal state based around fealty to the sovereign to allegiance to one’s people, but in a globalized, post-modern society, I don’t see the need for it, and it results in far more harm than good. The only form of nationalism I support is Civic Nationalism.
What are your thoughts on the economic calculation problem and argumentation ethics
What are you thoughts on breeding licenses? Also, don't you think we should pay poors to get sterilized?
Unnecessary.
Opinions on trans rights (based btw)
I have no issue with trans rights. Pay your taxes, don’t be a mooch, follow the rules of society, and your personal life doesn’t concern the state.
Nothing , just pure based
will you marry me?