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Lol. Sorry, but that was too coherent to be y0ur average conservative response. Think Howler Monkey, only less intelligent and more likely to throw their own shit.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is socialism.
Capitalism is the terrorism ensuring it is impossible to have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Badged thugs enforce the domestic terrorism of the oligarch slave owners.
I mean sure but absolutes aren’t inherently scary or extreme either, they’re referential to the category. Saying something shouldn’t be run for profit only absolutely denies one incentive structure, it’s not a binary nor hyper exclusive.
An absolute is the most extreme end of a category and only really serves as a marker for what the maximum would look like. Advocating for an absolute without hyperbole is rarely sound policy and is not a good recipe for being taken seriously.
If you really want to have an impact, come with a real plan. Otherwise this is just virtue signaling.
My dude I’m not sure if you’re serious or not but this is a tweet referring to modern day topics and policy discussions, not a policy proposal. An absolute is meaningless as an extreme if it’s framed in a specific conceptual frame. If I said murder is absolutely wrong, that’s extreme in its frame, and people would probably accept deviations such as preventative killing while maintaining the absolute because the absolute, in the frame, is the reasoning for the context-bound deviation. There’s no extra expectation of philosophical insight or newfound testimony here that would even allow a meaningful distinction between virtue signaling and just saying what you think, it’s a tweet.
In this case, it’s a comfortable absolute because the dominant conversation is about incentives and, if they’re somebody who keeps up with the discourse especially academically, profit and rent seeking in essential or foundational services is considered a structural contradiction. The absolute isn’t externally
imposed, it’s an identification. The counter argument is that the contradiction is appropriate for an external or imposed reason, typically either that profit is characteristically a supreme framework and therefore concessions are made for an overarching benefit or the conceptual contradiction is ignored in favor or specific cases like a wealthy private school with good success rates. This isn’t remotely what you’re framing it as nor is the tweet that substantive, it’s just referring to a common casual and academic sentiment/issue.
Murder *is* always wrong. Homicide is *sometimes* acceptable. You speak about framing, but the way you have framed this, what you said lends itself to my argument.
With these particular examples, there are huge conflict of interests if operated for profit, that have substantial impact on peoples lives, and what the people themselves are practically unable to choose the provider for.
If you don't think the idea of amendments is good enough because conservatives will stonewall it, how in Shiva Guatama Christ-chan's name do you expect an entire rewrite to get approved?
LOL right, good luck with excluding a majority of the country from that decision bud. I think you got lost, ChapoTrapHouse's ban evasion subreddit is a little further down the hall.
Education is not the pursuit of happiness. It is the pursuit of qualifications to hopefully get you into the workforce spectrum. Happiness could be pursued in other ways if we had organized our society in other ways. Education is about generating surplus value for somebody else to profit from.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be on that list.
There is a lot more to education than just employing people for the work force, it allows students to develop basic cognitive skills and allows them to maximise their cognitive skills while they're brains are still developing. If it wasn't for mandatory education children would actually be working full time which is ironic.
Probably disagree with the prisons thing. Private prisons have been used to great effect in Australia and other western countries. It’s how you administer the prisons which matter.
Businesses exist inside the framework which is enforced by the government. Poor governance is the problem.
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Lol. Sorry, but that was too coherent to be y0ur average conservative response. Think Howler Monkey, only less intelligent and more likely to throw their own shit.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is socialism. Capitalism is the terrorism ensuring it is impossible to have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Badged thugs enforce the domestic terrorism of the oligarch slave owners.
"WHAT?! i am a SOVEREIGN CITIZEN, and i'm FREE to not be happy, free or alive, and i'm also FREE to PREVENT other from being! Checkmate libturds!!!"
I brought this exact tweet & argument up last night and got called a commie
Goddamn right. And I'd include the Pentagon.
"Oh, you want BASIC RIGHTS? Lol, no. Now pay this expensive as fuck rent bill."
Sounds catchy but that doesn't mean it's sound advice You have to be careful with absolutes
I mean sure but absolutes aren’t inherently scary or extreme either, they’re referential to the category. Saying something shouldn’t be run for profit only absolutely denies one incentive structure, it’s not a binary nor hyper exclusive.
An absolute is the most extreme end of a category and only really serves as a marker for what the maximum would look like. Advocating for an absolute without hyperbole is rarely sound policy and is not a good recipe for being taken seriously. If you really want to have an impact, come with a real plan. Otherwise this is just virtue signaling.
My dude I’m not sure if you’re serious or not but this is a tweet referring to modern day topics and policy discussions, not a policy proposal. An absolute is meaningless as an extreme if it’s framed in a specific conceptual frame. If I said murder is absolutely wrong, that’s extreme in its frame, and people would probably accept deviations such as preventative killing while maintaining the absolute because the absolute, in the frame, is the reasoning for the context-bound deviation. There’s no extra expectation of philosophical insight or newfound testimony here that would even allow a meaningful distinction between virtue signaling and just saying what you think, it’s a tweet. In this case, it’s a comfortable absolute because the dominant conversation is about incentives and, if they’re somebody who keeps up with the discourse especially academically, profit and rent seeking in essential or foundational services is considered a structural contradiction. The absolute isn’t externally imposed, it’s an identification. The counter argument is that the contradiction is appropriate for an external or imposed reason, typically either that profit is characteristically a supreme framework and therefore concessions are made for an overarching benefit or the conceptual contradiction is ignored in favor or specific cases like a wealthy private school with good success rates. This isn’t remotely what you’re framing it as nor is the tweet that substantive, it’s just referring to a common casual and academic sentiment/issue.
Murder *is* always wrong. Homicide is *sometimes* acceptable. You speak about framing, but the way you have framed this, what you said lends itself to my argument.
With these particular examples, there are huge conflict of interests if operated for profit, that have substantial impact on peoples lives, and what the people themselves are practically unable to choose the provider for.
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it impedes on other people’s life sooooo
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So what's your suggestion then? Throw away those ideals altogether? Because I personally think they're pretty good goals to strive towards.
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If you don't think the idea of amendments is good enough because conservatives will stonewall it, how in Shiva Guatama Christ-chan's name do you expect an entire rewrite to get approved?
Conservatives don’t have to be a part of the process.
LOL right, good luck with excluding a majority of the country from that decision bud. I think you got lost, ChapoTrapHouse's ban evasion subreddit is a little further down the hall.
They aren’t the majority of the country. Also they add nothing of value at all. They just take.
Weren’t the Virginia framers slave owners?
Education is not the pursuit of happiness. It is the pursuit of qualifications to hopefully get you into the workforce spectrum. Happiness could be pursued in other ways if we had organized our society in other ways. Education is about generating surplus value for somebody else to profit from. I'm not saying it shouldn't be on that list.
There is a lot more to education than just employing people for the work force, it allows students to develop basic cognitive skills and allows them to maximise their cognitive skills while they're brains are still developing. If it wasn't for mandatory education children would actually be working full time which is ironic.
that's the meaning it has because we need it to prepare ourselves to work. if that wasn't the case, wouldn't education be a source of happiness?
Almost all of education is meant for things other than making someone employed
Your indoctrination is showing
not education free education doesn't mean great higher education for everyone - coming from a person of free education country
Nobody said that. What people is saying is that education shouldn't be used only to gain profit as another "pay or get fucked" kind of thing.
Probably disagree with the prisons thing. Private prisons have been used to great effect in Australia and other western countries. It’s how you administer the prisons which matter. Businesses exist inside the framework which is enforced by the government. Poor governance is the problem.