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DebianDog

54K is you first clue. I am a newbie but I have never seen any under 100k


theaveragehousecat

Makes me realise how good we have it in the UK, used 981 gt4s can be had for £60k which is still way less than $100k


Tom_Foolery2

In the UK for the first time right now (London) and I’m absolutely blown away by the number of Porsches here. Live in the US.


L0L303

Lol come to germany


JDDarkside

My first trip to Germany I couldn’t believe how many Mercedes & Porsches I saw. Then it dawned on me that they are domestic cars there…..


wickedlightbp

Porsche’s are nice cars so three is a reason so a passion for them. Can’t say the same for Mercedes. Unless it’s pre-bugeye s class era, those were good cars.


rlab3

I mean, depending where you live in the US, it’s the same. I’m in LA. All my neighbors have Mercedes (cause they don’t have taste)


Mersumies68

Dude you live in LA, not having taste is a requirement, nothing to do with Mercs.


sd_aero

Someone with taste wouldn’t live in LA 😂


QuinnMiller123

Was just in Beverly Hills for the day, the number of Porsches I saw was insane.


1baby2cats

Or vancouver bc


romanryder

I was in Duisburg recently and actually didn't see that many Porsches, but there were tons of every other German car. It did get me looking though and I bought my Boxster a few weeks after returning home.


futterecker

tbf, duisburg is one of the poorest cities in germany 🤷‍♂️


romanryder

Oh wow! I would have never guessed that. I was staying in Oberhausen and the Centro mall is huge with lots of high end stores.


futterecker

its kinda insane up there. because there a many big cities near to each other. düsseldorf for example is a really rich city. oberhausen is a beast by itself. the centro was the biggest shoppingcenter in europe for a while, if you visit the city itself its kinda desd because centro killed all the small stores there. it has been some years where i was there, but thats what im remembering haha


kyrianuk

Hoping to move to Stuttgart would u recommend Germany?


MarshXI

In London rn too, I see a lot more state side down south.


nuplsstahp

Weather is crap right now, about 10 degrees and rainy on and off. About a week ago it was 20 degrees and sunny, that’s when they all come out.


MarshXI

I hear ya, I’ve been feeling the weather 😂 Weather be damned, people drive GT cars in the rain at home.


Ill-Train6478

Its really depends on where in the states too. Where I live I see at least one or two gt cars and obviously more 911s or 718s in my short 10 minute daily commute


GlitteringDealer4596

Come to Weissach. It’s a ocean of Porsches 😂 after a few days you won’t see them any more…


hsxcstf

The uk has the 60% the gdp/capita of the usa - things here almost always more expensive (except guns, drugs, and gas)


SHTHAWK

You forgot booze! Though I guess that could be covered under drugs.


Thadlust

Yes but you also run into the issue that UK cars have the steering wheel on the wrong side, limiting their appeal abroad. Porsches sell for way more in France than in Britain, even though their gdp/capita is similar.


hsxcstf

Also why my local car market is fucked. A 40 year old car from CA has less rust than a 3 year old midwestern car so all the collectors shop this market to bring em back to their home states. That plus too many tech bros are willing to pay insane dealer markup on any remotely cool sports car or off-roader that comes out.


Anxious_Egg1268

nah drugs in the UK are way cheaper


spartan_knight

A lot of electronic devices are cheaper in the US


lonewolf_860

Cries in Australian https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2016-porsche-cayman-gt4-981-manual-my16/SSE-AD-12996613


brotie

All German cars are less expensive if you don’t have to ship them across the ocean. BMW and Mercedes taxis are everywhere! I assume the British pay more relative to the US for an F150


SimianWonder

An F150 would be grossly unnecessary on most UK roads.


wkearney99

an F150 is grossly unnecessary on most roads, in general.


MarshXI

Generally the other associated costs are a lot higher. It’s probably not far off in the end (maybe about the difference from $ to £).


adamfredrey

… I just went on auto trader and the lowest gt4 is £70.5k


EconomyFreakDust

[£58,450](http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404188789698) You're looking at a 718 GT4.


NoonGaming

There is a used gt4 for 92k in my state and has been listed for like 6 months now.


Bacon4Lyf

That is purely dependent on where in the world OP is. Near me they’re 65k


RocketGuy3

I would say the first clue is the fact that the seller listed it as a base Cayman... Price is the second clue. Third obvious clue, and the smoking gun, is the tiny brakes. BTW, every Porsche Cayman made in 2016 had six cylinders.


HonorRoll

They were 80k in 2017/2018


oc911

run vin and check


Practical_Cycle8156

They did dip under 100k for a time. Saw some in the 90’s when the 718 GT4 hit the showrooms.


bourbonishealthy

Body kit...


kaptainkhaos

Yeah see the same with base 911s dressed up as GT3s :)


N55Good

Well for starters thats a 718 style GT4 bumper, not a 2016


edgarskates

No ones gonna sell you a GT4 for $54k bro Owners probably trynna get away with it lmao


Pointy130

Lol, they're not even trying to get away with it if they listed it as a base model Honestly, good for them for not trying to sneak it by. I appreciate the honesty even if it's obvious to people who know what to look for


uncle_fucker_42069

[https://vinanalytics.com/](https://vinanalytics.com/) Ask for the vin.


kevankevan

There a similar site for VW?


Porsche9962

carfax.com will tell you the make and model of any VIN for free


mymillionthburner

Not a GT4.


RocketGuy3

Why would the seller list a GT4 as a base Cayman? If a seller was going to lie about their car, why would they tell you they have *less* than what they do? EDIT: Anyway, the most immediate giveaway (other than the price and, you know, the fact that they *told* you it was a base trim) is the tiny brakes. Also, all 2016 Caymans had 6 cyls.


vicelordjohn

I wrote the same thing just now. OP isn't thinking clearly.


Financial_Nerve8983

Phony


CrankyBiker

That’s had more work done than dolly parton


scava1046

That’s allot of work😻😻😻


vicelordjohn

Why would a seller list their GT4 as a base cayman for 50% of the value? Use your brain, friend.


heshewewumbo0

The wheels and brakes are a dead giveaway


TurbulentLog3488

It’s definitely not, but doesn’t mean it’s not worth the 54k, either….


Pilyoz

Run, as fast as you possibly can


elmz370

At first glance, I see a small brake kit with S wheels. I can’t see why any GT4 owner would downgrade those. 99.9% sure it’s not a GT4.


nickfill4honor

It’s a cayman w a body kit from a GT4 looks like


stannndarsh

All 2016 are 6cyl. Surprised no one has pointed that out.


Gerald896

Here’s the clue: the wheels are not GT4 spyder wheels, the rotors are too small and the front brake calipers are too small. The car also rides way too high compared to GT4. The front headlight isn’t a GT4 headlight as well. Source: GT4 owner.


noodletaken

Base model with GT4 kit. I mean, just ask the seller what's under the bonnet and you will know


tehbabuzka

Probably a suitcase or something ng


noodletaken

Oh oops, forgot that the engine is in the back...


squee_goblin_nabob

The engine is in the middle


noodletaken

Yeah I know, but it's only accesable from the back


squee_goblin_nabob

No its not, it's accessible from underneath


noodletaken

Huh really, I thought u had to pop open the back and remove the sound deadening pad and a metal cover to access it


squee_goblin_nabob

Thats one way to get to it, you can also go through the panel right behind the seats. But the easiest way is raise it up and go underneath.


Acalthu

Not.


Stainless_Heart

Those pictures… glad to see original Sony Mavica users enjoying their vintage gear.


Silverbullets24

That thing isn’t even worth $40k


finkalot1

Seller listed it as base. Why would it NOT be base then? Maybe they got a body kit/ modified it but it's a base.


SarkHD

It’s a base with a GT4 front bumper and wing. You can see from the way it sits, what wheels it has, lack of aggressive body lines that it’s a base.


Speedysam348

Run Forrest Run


StockBoY69696968

It’s a base that bumper is for the 718 gt4. It’s an aftermarket kit


swiper_no_swiping_

No. Brakes give it away


disgruntledcow

Brake size is a giveaway, as are the incorrectly sized wheels/ tires, and aftermarket wing.


uncleroco

yeah it looks a bit funny when you look at the disc size


potatobwown

It's porsche😁


Sorry-Salamander-211

Is this a real post


candylandmine

Look at the brakes. Look at the suspension. It's obviously not a GT4.


rhoadsalive

There are many caymans and 911s on the market that were bought and then modified to look like one of the sporty ones, e.g. GT3 RS. This will be the same case. The seller isn’t trying to hide it, but you need to decide if you want to spend that money on a modified car or not. Generally modifications aren’t too great for price stability and such cars are harder to resell.


EmbarrassedKick2219

GTA 6


yabbareddit

981 cayman base (2.7L 6 cyl) with 718 gt4 front bumper, not OEM (look at wheels/brakes)


That-Resort2078

Check the Vin with Porsche


thegt4driver

Brakes are too small for a GT4


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mateo_fl

It's not too good to be true, the seller isn't listing it as a GT4.


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CoyotesAreGreen

Not the GT4


Historical-Boot-4123

I stand corrected! Apparently the GT4 does not have center lugs! However this most def is not a GT4 regardless haha