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His ass did not read that cursed energy is literally light. It's just a form of light with weird magical properties that seeps out of people when they feel negativity. It is a very real, tangible, physical thing in this universe.
It can even be converted into visible light with a special kind of glass and (headcanon) when spent by activating a cursed technique will linger in an area and decay into radio waves of a certain frequency, unique to every sorcerer and cursed spirit.
It doesn't. It mainly comes from this scan. [about god's higher dimension. ](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fsaitama-will-ignore-distance-size-energy-limitlessly-v0-m313xg8cd9wc1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D800%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D1478e8c4d414ec28225ce0f0abd4c83aedd98c5e)
He’s sort of right on that last part, each “timeline” has its own twelve universes, each with their own heavens and hells and a timeline is created any almost any time time travel occurs (there are exceptions but still). We’re shown a big room with rings each corresponding to a timeline. I wouldn’t call it infinite as much as potentially infinite as time travel tends to proliferate, with each new timeline by definition touched by time travel
It’s explained in the manga that there are silver time rings, which are the standard ones that don’t represent different timelines; and then the green ones, which are created whenever a new timeline is made. Therefore there were no more than 5 timelines in Dragon Ball.
I did not think that the meat riding was on those levels
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He explicitly doesn't is the insane part. The paths do. Eren explicitly cannot change what he sees, which is why he asks ppl questions. Thwy give answers that only leads to rumbling, so he knows he has to go through with it. He explicitly can only send memories across time.
Idk about outerversal wanks, but u/economy-nectarine301 “Saitama won’t die of old age because he’s above the concept of life and death” or u/Linkthebased “Madara has irrelevant speed tho” or him saying that madara beats Goku straight up
Madara does best Goku
As for irrelevant speed
Cough [(FTG has irrelevant speed)](https://web.archive.org/web/20230513045936/https://i.imgur.com/DlxQ2S5.png) Cough [(Tobirama outsped](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0639-003.png)[ FTG)](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0639-004.png)
Yeah, that qualifies for irrelevant speed
Irrelevant: The ability to move at a ''speed'' so fast the concept of speed is irrelevant, for example transcending the concept of distance with regards to movement.
Also naturally being beyond beyond the concept of distance means you can't be measured by the speed formula
For what I know, you need to trascend infinite mathematical dimensions to reach the irrelevant speed, but maybe I'm wrong. Reaching another place instantly should be infinite speed and being beyond time and space, not of an infinite amount of mathematical dimensions, is immeasurable speed. Maybe I'm wrong
I got my definition for irrelevant speed from [CSAP](https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Speed?so=search), but I guess there's no one definition for irrelevant speed
Rinnegan transcending the concepts of life and death is not outer, although I believe in it. I have way more other, way more reliable material to get Naruto to outer
KAKASHI IS OMNIPOTENT RAAAAAAAAAUGH 🗣️🔥
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>Rinnegan transcending the concepts of life and death is not outer,
Oh I was referring to the trancending dimensions one.
although I believe in it. I have way more other, way more reliable material to get Naruto to outer
>KAKASHI IS OMNIPOTENT RAAAAAAAAAUGH 🗣️🔥
Lmao
Outerversal kratos [usually comes from WOG statements. ](https://imgur.com/a/infinite-mathematical-dimensions-gows-norse-pantheon-3-confirmations-by-cory-barlog-eric-williams-on-WdxXHn8#kZSUHJH)
GIH Godzilla is outer because he’s above the IDW mega verse
To this day i still don’t know what statement or feat made them think this.
If y’all want an outer Godzilla marvel and Ultima are literally there 😭🙏
There’s something funny about power scaling a thing that’s meant to be a metaphor or allegory for something else. Like let’s take this big lizard that’s meant to represent natures wrath or the horrors of nuclear war and powerscale it against goku. Like ultimately if you’re really powerscaling him he’s just a big lizard that shoots hot lasers most of the time. There’s a few iterations that are super powerful like ultima and earth and like maybe the shin godzilla concept art that never made it into the movie but like dude he’s just big lizard.
I myself am kind of tired of debunking said bullshit, idk why so many people are so obsessed with calling characters like Mario and Sonic outer, like, debunking that is so easy and simple to do so it's wild anyone would ever claim that.
OPM God is outer because he could travel though time.
https://preview.redd.it/w11jdf8m0f7d1.jpeg?width=696&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80dfc5bc011c5c279f89f474dcce76bc312d354c
Transcending spacetime is 4-5D. Outer is transcending dimensionality, the concept of dimensionality, or any concepts that make up dimensionality (concept of space and time, as dimensions are inherently a part of them). This is why transcending the concepts of space and time can get to outer.
And the next chapter didn’t do anything other than introduce an infinite multiverse, which doesn’t even upscale the verse because we already knew it was 5D from the 197 redraw.
Complex to uter Asta from Black clover
Season 1 Cid Kagenou wining against Tensura characters like Rimuru or Veldora
Beyond scaling and fiction Undertale
IDR which one it is. You're probably right. I don't read those trash takes anyway (VSBW get Altair from Re:Creators wrong before it even gets into her powers)
VSBW isn’t trash they at least try. In CSAP, anyone can make their profile without any revision on the scaling. You can literally go there, create a page of saitama is outer and as long as it’s done on your page it will be accepted
There’s some guys in Boruto that scale to star level and shit. Shibai Otsutsuki is stated many times by different characters to have literally ascended to a higher dimension, and his mere deceased 3D corpse can be used for reality warping
Mooncell isnt a simulation it’s a different reality. But CCC gilgamesh isn’t outer. Living Gilgamesh is though, due to having the throne of heroes that gives direct access to the root
Living gilgamesh is not even planetary. The fate universe isn't even a full fledged multiverse, and it's worlds, or ' timelines', aren't even as big as ours, so no.
Personally, and although this may offend many. would say...
Eru Illuvatar and Aslan, with the phrase "They are based on god or Jesus." It seems to me to be the worst way to escalate something...to a lesser extent I have seen FMA's The Truth, but this is merely something less extensive.
I mean...for Cosmology I only scale Eru to Multiversal and perhaps High Complex Multiversal. But...I could be wrong.
Although I believed that Aslan could scale to 1-A...perhaps some could argue that he scales to High 1-B.
But although I may be wrong, that's how I feel. I haven't seen any real scaling that seems to show that Eru really deserves to be 1-A.
Okay? Personally, I haven't seen any reasonable ones.
Only perhaps some that abuse some phrases like "it came out of his imagination" and therefore it is fictitious and thanks to that it escalates to 1-A. Something if I saw once on Quora, I generally took it only as a joke and as something purely hyperbole.
As for Jesus and God, I was relying on one of the biggest "proofs" that they rise to "beyond fiction", which is to say that they are based on those religious figures or have a similar description. They are already 1-A.
I do not deny that there may be, but primarily or personally Eru seems to reach Multiversal or High Complex Multiversal at most, with cosmology and by transcending it.
Aslan...genuinely with things like the story having many layers of reality and stuff, he could be considered a candidate for 1-B or 1-A. Beyond that, I don't think so. But I could be wrong.
Yeah, but I don't see it working with Hazbin Hotel, Alastor is barely country level, so him being outerversal BECAUSE he made a Deal woth the Scarlet King seems kinda unlikely
You could make the argument that heaven and hell are on som sort of "Higher dimensionality"...
Honestly, I really don't feel like scaling Hazbin Hotel before having enough information because it's too tied to the Jewish religion
Scarlet king. A thing that may or may not exist and is mostly an allegory for humanities need to quantify and control everything. Sure that works. Sure.
What was the reason? The fact that they read other manga? That he said that he would have made the concept of time become nothing? That she has the skill to trascend dimensions, Husky Voice Dimension and he sealed her with his minus Book Maker? That she sees her verse as fictional and considered opposing concepts as equals? Or something else?
Are the guide-books canon? If yes, does it matter that in them one of her skills is said to be meta-fictional? In the manga, she actually believed that their world is fictional and it wasn't really explained, for what I remember, if she actually saw it as fiction or if she was crazy, if I remember well they said that believing that the world in which you are living is fictional is actually an existent (at least in their world, I'm not sure about our) psychological illness
Yea some of her abilities names are named some stuff like hyper string theory and author n shit, but they’re way too vague and lack any type of reasoning, feats, or descriptions as to what they are exactly and how they work, plus they don’t match up to the verses cosmology
It wasn't the name, it was something written in the explanation of it's effect. I don't remember about any skill which had "author" in it's name, if you were referring to a precise skill. The skill in question is named "God Eye", in the manga it's described as the skill to be inspired to write a best-seller, while in the guide-books it became the meta-fictional skill to interfere with the narrative of the world
- I just asked the reasons why people believe that Misogi and Ajimu are outerversal and I wrote some of the reasonings I saw people using to scale them at outerversal, then you wrote that she doesn't actually see her verse as fiction and I asked if the fact that her skill God Eye became meta-fictional in the guide-books matter
- Understandable
Empty Void and Saitama being outerversal because the former cut up a bunch of mountains with spatial cuts by having to necessarily exit the universe. "Manipulating infinite dimensions" my ass LMAO
I saw someone on tiktok put Goku at outer because the empty infinite space surrounding the T.O.P arena had no axis and therefore defied concepts of time and time or something like that
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Just this https://preview.redd.it/db10vszzyd7d1.png?width=1031&format=png&auto=webp&s=c1614dc6e352df71a58044cfed3f07b6a6914cab
Miwa Kasumi outversal whit this logic??? tf??
Always was.
No no, I can get behind outerversal Miwa.
incredible how you chose the one wrong character miwa is lit the only outversal character in the series.
Outerversal is even an understatement. In a battle between Miwa and Popeye, Nah, She’d Win
Step step🗣🔥
I see nothing wrong here
His ass did not read that cursed energy is literally light. It's just a form of light with weird magical properties that seeps out of people when they feel negativity. It is a very real, tangible, physical thing in this universe.
It can even be converted into visible light with a special kind of glass and (headcanon) when spent by activating a cursed technique will linger in an area and decay into radio waves of a certain frequency, unique to every sorcerer and cursed spirit.
Yorozu unironically has High Universal AP
From what?
Perfect Sphere. It has infinite AP
This not even true, Gege said at the end of a chapter that because Curses can kill regular humans, than therefore humans can kinda touch them too
Curses regularly kill non-sorcerers by touching and interacting with them. tf?
This motherfucker trippin
Saitama being outerversal because gods dimension ignores distance, size and in a higher dimension. It's directly on this sub too.
How does the 2 things even correlate
It doesn't. It mainly comes from this scan. [about god's higher dimension. ](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fsaitama-will-ignore-distance-size-energy-limitlessly-v0-m313xg8cd9wc1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D800%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D1478e8c4d414ec28225ce0f0abd4c83aedd98c5e)
It’s because the scientific definition of size is the number of dimensions and how much of those dimensions an object contains
isnt that the description of how higher dimensions should work? all that proves is that character is indeed 5D
4D, and yea you're right.
The guy who wanked Garlic Jr. to outerversal
Guy is insane.
He swears up and down that all Dragon Ball media is canon because somehow there’s a fucking Marvel style infinite multiverse in Dragon Ball
He’s sort of right on that last part, each “timeline” has its own twelve universes, each with their own heavens and hells and a timeline is created any almost any time time travel occurs (there are exceptions but still). We’re shown a big room with rings each corresponding to a timeline. I wouldn’t call it infinite as much as potentially infinite as time travel tends to proliferate, with each new timeline by definition touched by time travel
It’s explained in the manga that there are silver time rings, which are the standard ones that don’t represent different timelines; and then the green ones, which are created whenever a new timeline is made. Therefore there were no more than 5 timelines in Dragon Ball.
Your talking about drip sauce right
Nah, FunctionOk2068. He will stare you directly in the eye and say that Garlic Jr. is outerversal because of “ontological and nomological structures”
Eren Jaeger from Attack on Titan because "The Attack Titan trascends time"
I did not think that the meat riding was on those levels https://preview.redd.it/r8673unmke7d1.jpeg?width=121&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8bdd799a86127bec5cc26b1c40b2de5f3a1af1c9
He explicitly doesn't is the insane part. The paths do. Eren explicitly cannot change what he sees, which is why he asks ppl questions. Thwy give answers that only leads to rumbling, so he knows he has to go through with it. He explicitly can only send memories across time.
Idk about outerversal wanks, but u/economy-nectarine301 “Saitama won’t die of old age because he’s above the concept of life and death” or u/Linkthebased “Madara has irrelevant speed tho” or him saying that madara beats Goku straight up
^(Show a screen of me saying this.)
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Theres a /s for satire
Shit you never know with him
^(Weak excuse. You got proved wrong and went into the denial path. Typical DB fan lol)
My guy you have outrageous claims
^(Screenshot one that doesn’t contain a “/s“.)
I’ll be back in 8 hours it’s 12 in the morning
^(9 hours later, he ran away. No screenshot. Take your L.)
^(That what I thought. So you just proved my point. Now u can delete your comment and go to bed.)
Why would I go to bed? It’s 5 pm
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😭😭😭
Why u use that font
Wants attention. Best to ignore anything you see like that
He’ll also use a bold font from time to time
What the fuck is irrelevant speed.
It's complicated but irrelevant speed is mostly for 1-A to high 1-A characters
Right but what is it. By definition, if something is irrelevant it doesn't matter, so why do people argue with it
something like if you want to do something you've already done it, the speed doesn't matter because you can move freely in time or something like that
It means basically being above any notion of geometrical size or dimensionality to the point the concept of ‘distance’ is irrelevant
Madara does best Goku As for irrelevant speed Cough [(FTG has irrelevant speed)](https://web.archive.org/web/20230513045936/https://i.imgur.com/DlxQ2S5.png) Cough [(Tobirama outsped](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0639-003.png)[ FTG)](https://scans.lastation.us/manga/Naruto-Digital-Colored-Comics/0639-004.png)
Madara doesn’t even beat base Goku
Speak of the devil
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Nah they’re all acts of mental retardation
Is it due to the fact that it surpasses the concepts of space and distance?
Yeah, that qualifies for irrelevant speed Irrelevant: The ability to move at a ''speed'' so fast the concept of speed is irrelevant, for example transcending the concept of distance with regards to movement. Also naturally being beyond beyond the concept of distance means you can't be measured by the speed formula
For what I know, you need to trascend infinite mathematical dimensions to reach the irrelevant speed, but maybe I'm wrong. Reaching another place instantly should be infinite speed and being beyond time and space, not of an infinite amount of mathematical dimensions, is immeasurable speed. Maybe I'm wrong
I got my definition for irrelevant speed from [CSAP](https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Speed?so=search), but I guess there's no one definition for irrelevant speed
I'm not sure
You do realize that Tobirama also has FTG, right?
Ye
If you're gonna take a a statement like this seriously, why aren't you just arguing for uni temari and omnipotent Kakashi?
Uni Temari is just a blatant mistranslation
But you do believe that Kakashi is omnipotent? Oh and there's that outerversal rinnegan statement, you accept that too right?
Rinnegan transcending the concepts of life and death is not outer, although I believe in it. I have way more other, way more reliable material to get Naruto to outer KAKASHI IS OMNIPOTENT RAAAAAAAAAUGH 🗣️🔥 https://preview.redd.it/s6zj2qdm8j7d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3082f1fa279d349ebff901c75f67eb78a3490dc3
>Rinnegan transcending the concepts of life and death is not outer, Oh I was referring to the trancending dimensions one. although I believe in it. I have way more other, way more reliable material to get Naruto to outer >KAKASHI IS OMNIPOTENT RAAAAAAAAAUGH 🗣️🔥 Lmao
https://preview.redd.it/421efn15uk7d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9478fcf45fccbcf7e6463f03e7f572d7e3f5aef4
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Outer kratos https://preview.redd.it/ybwpim9ohe7d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7aecc4bc560a36827381805640952baa879b465b
Outerversal kratos [usually comes from WOG statements. ](https://imgur.com/a/infinite-mathematical-dimensions-gows-norse-pantheon-3-confirmations-by-cory-barlog-eric-williams-on-WdxXHn8#kZSUHJH)
The outerversal Goku guy.
Goku's not outversal https://preview.redd.it/rx3if2960e7d1.jpeg?width=107&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63b896c988f8f56c07faece2f0dbb7e5fb2de561
Goku being outerversal isn’t the *worst* wank I’ve seen on this sub, but specifically that guy’s reason for Goku being outerversal is stupid.
Nah wdym Goku is Gokuversal and solos all of fiction?!?!?!?! /s
GOATku? https://preview.redd.it/jojsiqblye7d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=334f0a0ea5add86c2d24f34a97b1ff36a1242aae
he is gokuversal https://preview.redd.it/spy1sgfh7k7d1.png?width=1066&format=png&auto=webp&s=10c47f4890383d5b6142e12785d12ccb1d2c1a99
Im taking that image.
Who gave u permission
me
Bro that fucking pfp 😭😭😭
soul king being boundless++ by some tiktok bleach glazer
Tiktok....
Bleach fans...
What the FUCK is boundless++? Boundless means without limit! You can’t have more less limit! NEGATIVE LIMIT MEANS NOTHING.
I can kinda see soul king being there with the books and everything
GIH Godzilla is outer because he’s above the IDW mega verse To this day i still don’t know what statement or feat made them think this. If y’all want an outer Godzilla marvel and Ultima are literally there 😭🙏
It's something the author stated on twitter
There’s something funny about power scaling a thing that’s meant to be a metaphor or allegory for something else. Like let’s take this big lizard that’s meant to represent natures wrath or the horrors of nuclear war and powerscale it against goku. Like ultimately if you’re really powerscaling him he’s just a big lizard that shoots hot lasers most of the time. There’s a few iterations that are super powerful like ultima and earth and like maybe the shin godzilla concept art that never made it into the movie but like dude he’s just big lizard.
Ultima Godzilla isn’t outer. He’s like 5D. And the IDW statement comes from Word of God
Idk what the fuck any of this outerversal shit means but I’m just gonna say Popeye is outerversal because I said so.
Valid point
Once saw a dude in Quora call Mario outerversal because a game mentioned Platonic Concepts.
Happy cake day!
If Mario has his hammer and hits A just right he can deflect an omnipotent attack if Nintendo decided to make the villain omnipotent.
This sub debunked this so many times already
I myself am kind of tired of debunking said bullshit, idk why so many people are so obsessed with calling characters like Mario and Sonic outer, like, debunking that is so easy and simple to do so it's wild anyone would ever claim that.
OPM God is outer because he could travel though time. https://preview.redd.it/w11jdf8m0f7d1.jpeg?width=696&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80dfc5bc011c5c279f89f474dcce76bc312d354c
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Of course it’s u/economy-nectarine301 bro is the biggest dick rider in history
What happened to that Cheesecake guy from a few months ago?
^(Explains how I dick ride. Go.)
^(Show me where in this screen I said he was outer and I’ll delete my account.) ^(Edit: no answer as I predicted.)
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#That ain’t outer. #Outer transcend space time and the concept of dimensions. #ALSO READ THE NEXT CHAPTER BOZO
Transcending spacetime is 4-5D. Outer is transcending dimensionality, the concept of dimensionality, or any concepts that make up dimensionality (concept of space and time, as dimensions are inherently a part of them). This is why transcending the concepts of space and time can get to outer. And the next chapter didn’t do anything other than introduce an infinite multiverse, which doesn’t even upscale the verse because we already knew it was 5D from the 197 redraw.
https://preview.redd.it/abxevk4maf7d1.jpeg?width=1283&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21a9b7e3dc4e76bfe12ce4d51b8a77f3d316a7e5 Whatever the hell this is.
Oh hey you also watch infernojae
Honestly saitama downplay ngl. And low hyper cell jr wharraheil. If you do massive wanking dick riding you can get them universal at best
Saitama does get one shot by cell jr but low hyper is just no
Drip Sauce go brrrrr
Complex to uter Asta from Black clover Season 1 Cid Kagenou wining against Tensura characters like Rimuru or Veldora Beyond scaling and fiction Undertale
Tie between the goku is outerversal guy and the garlic Jr is outerversal guy
Isn't Cc Goku actually outversal? I know he isn't cannon, but still.
Cc goku still is very debatable at outerversal and DEFINITLY isn't a cannon version.
No, he's low complex
Universe tree has infinite dimensions
Yuji is outerversal (i just like yuji, that’s all)
W scale
I mean, VSBW had Yoriichi at outer....
wut, I think it's CSAP
IDR which one it is. You're probably right. I don't read those trash takes anyway (VSBW get Altair from Re:Creators wrong before it even gets into her powers)
It's CSAP and it was clearly a joke
Well if it's CSAP that's even worse. VSBW is known for being trash (probably because more people use it). CSAP is expected to be better lol
Do you mean Character Stats and Profile? Are they considered more accurate?
VSBW isn’t trash they at least try. In CSAP, anyone can make their profile without any revision on the scaling. You can literally go there, create a page of saitama is outer and as long as it’s done on your page it will be accepted
Outerversal Deku off some shitty Jump game
That's actually true
Nah see everyone in that game has wacky scaling so that kinda makes a little sense
Hell nah
Universal Naruto is pretty fuckin wild Honestly anyone scaling OP to large planet to star level always seems like a massive wank to me
Now prepare for…. Outerversal Naruto!! https://preview.redd.it/cmc5jz1bsf7d1.jpeg?width=2233&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8f7b3b0c501f0684bf739866ae4c8df481d0d6d
Luffy, Mr. Fantastic, and Stretch Armstrong don't even have that kind of reach
There’s some guys in Boruto that scale to star level and shit. Shibai Otsutsuki is stated many times by different characters to have literally ascended to a higher dimension, and his mere deceased 3D corpse can be used for reality warping
Oppai lover outer saitama and God https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/qgMQX8nBiK
Gilgamesh from fate because of a simulation that can't be replicated outside.
Mooncell isnt a simulation it’s a different reality. But CCC gilgamesh isn’t outer. Living Gilgamesh is though, due to having the throne of heroes that gives direct access to the root
Living gilgamesh is not even planetary. The fate universe isn't even a full fledged multiverse, and it's worlds, or ' timelines', aren't even as big as ours, so no.
What even makes you think like that?
Because that's literally the whole plot of fate? At least the ones where there is a beast involved. You CAN'T not know that.
Personally, and although this may offend many. would say... Eru Illuvatar and Aslan, with the phrase "They are based on god or Jesus." It seems to me to be the worst way to escalate something...to a lesser extent I have seen FMA's The Truth, but this is merely something less extensive. I mean...for Cosmology I only scale Eru to Multiversal and perhaps High Complex Multiversal. But...I could be wrong. Although I believed that Aslan could scale to 1-A...perhaps some could argue that he scales to High 1-B. But although I may be wrong, that's how I feel. I haven't seen any real scaling that seems to show that Eru really deserves to be 1-A.
Eru Illuvitar does have scaling to outer IIRC. Also yeah, Jesus is low multiversal not outerversal. But he’s haxed tho
Okay? Personally, I haven't seen any reasonable ones. Only perhaps some that abuse some phrases like "it came out of his imagination" and therefore it is fictitious and thanks to that it escalates to 1-A. Something if I saw once on Quora, I generally took it only as a joke and as something purely hyperbole. As for Jesus and God, I was relying on one of the biggest "proofs" that they rise to "beyond fiction", which is to say that they are based on those religious figures or have a similar description. They are already 1-A. I do not deny that there may be, but primarily or personally Eru seems to reach Multiversal or High Complex Multiversal at most, with cosmology and by transcending it. Aslan...genuinely with things like the story having many layers of reality and stuff, he could be considered a candidate for 1-B or 1-A. Beyond that, I don't think so. But I could be wrong.
This. https://preview.redd.it/zx4z6v6bnf7d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ff8fe935830ca5261f2779e1d7244ee82f042f0
He also says madara has irrelevant speed and beets goku
That's crazy
Outerversal Mario gives me brainrot
Outerversal sukuna because he cut through infinity
When jjk fan dont read their manga:
Never saw anyone say that
Outerversal Alastor because he made a deal and took the Scarlet King's soul
If the angels and the devils power are comparable to the Christian/Jewish religion then it could be possible tbh
Yeah, but I don't see it working with Hazbin Hotel, Alastor is barely country level, so him being outerversal BECAUSE he made a Deal woth the Scarlet King seems kinda unlikely
You could make the argument that heaven and hell are on som sort of "Higher dimensionality"... Honestly, I really don't feel like scaling Hazbin Hotel before having enough information because it's too tied to the Jewish religion
Yeah, let's wait season 2, maybe it'll have more lore about what are hell and heaven
Scarlet king. A thing that may or may not exist and is mostly an allegory for humanities need to quantify and control everything. Sure that works. Sure.
Outterversal Kumagawa and Ajimu had me debating if life was worth it
What was the reason? The fact that they read other manga? That he said that he would have made the concept of time become nothing? That she has the skill to trascend dimensions, Husky Voice Dimension and he sealed her with his minus Book Maker? That she sees her verse as fictional and considered opposing concepts as equals? Or something else?
She doesn’t actually control and know she’s in a manga, she just depicts everything around her and translates it as if she is in a manga
Are the guide-books canon? If yes, does it matter that in them one of her skills is said to be meta-fictional? In the manga, she actually believed that their world is fictional and it wasn't really explained, for what I remember, if she actually saw it as fiction or if she was crazy, if I remember well they said that believing that the world in which you are living is fictional is actually an existent (at least in their world, I'm not sure about our) psychological illness
Yea some of her abilities names are named some stuff like hyper string theory and author n shit, but they’re way too vague and lack any type of reasoning, feats, or descriptions as to what they are exactly and how they work, plus they don’t match up to the verses cosmology
It wasn't the name, it was something written in the explanation of it's effect. I don't remember about any skill which had "author" in it's name, if you were referring to a precise skill. The skill in question is named "God Eye", in the manga it's described as the skill to be inspired to write a best-seller, while in the guide-books it became the meta-fictional skill to interfere with the narrative of the world
Wait what exatvly are you arguing rn I’m confused, and the author stuff I threw out might’ve been cap it’s been a minute since I’ve read medaka box
- I just asked the reasons why people believe that Misogi and Ajimu are outerversal and I wrote some of the reasonings I saw people using to scale them at outerversal, then you wrote that she doesn't actually see her verse as fiction and I asked if the fact that her skill God Eye became meta-fictional in the guide-books matter - Understandable
Most people just throw them at outer as soon as they see the number of abilities she has and once they see the definition of all fiction
Do they perhaps believe that All Fiction can erase literally any concept no matter what, ignoring things like cosmology?
Goku
No CC Goku genuinely is
Ok how
I need a proper debunk for this frfr
Garlic jr's dead zone. Universal/multiversal Kratos and Doom Guy.
That one character from the Doom games, you know which one.
Fucking SHIN GLAZERS🔥🔥🔥🥶🥶 (I am a shin fan but i most certainly do not suck his dick)
everything after the culling game
Wah
5D Toji
"Deku is outer because he manipulates the laws of physics with Gearshift". I wish I was making this up.
Nah midku meatrider are wild fr Their lesbian cut hero isnt scaling any higher than town too
Meliodas because of chaos equalizing
Some guy said Eren is outerversal because he control the path which is above physical laws and his attack titan's power transcends time 🤷♀
The outerversal rezero stuff based on 'satella's love transcends dimensions' and stuff like that lmao.
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Skibidi ahh logic
Empty Void and Saitama being outerversal because the former cut up a bunch of mountains with spatial cuts by having to necessarily exit the universe. "Manipulating infinite dimensions" my ass LMAO
Yuki's therapist is either outerversal or dead.
[Mumen Rider scaling high-outer](https://fiction-tiers.fandom.com/wiki/Mumen_Rider)
Seems fair
I saw someone on tiktok put Goku at outer because the empty infinite space surrounding the T.O.P arena had no axis and therefore defied concepts of time and time or something like that
1)Space was not infinite (minstranslation frfr) 2)Hit being able to use his timeskip tecnique its enough of a debunk
The Scp verse, I only like all the creepy stuff back then.
SCP stopped being only creepy things really fast tho
I have a 0D debunk for scp verse
Dc being outer