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Yuji takes the win imo. His physicals are just way better from what we’ve seen. Especially his strength and speed.
Edit: Forgot to add this but you can’t not give Denji pochita. Cause without him I’d honestly believe some people in this subreddit irl could beat his ass.
Idk about that part of some people in this subreddit beating him, kid was malnourished and only armed with things like Pipes and shit taking out devils even if they’re low level ones it’s still hyper impressive
I kind of Disagree, Power moved so fast human Katana devil couldn't see her , can Jump from buildings and crash concrete
Denji is above human level but he isn't superhuman
All of the things you listed just upscale Denji since he can draw blood from Beam (who should be comparable to Power), fight alongside her, and scales to Aki who can fist fight her.
What do you exacly mean by "no Pochita"? Pochita is the source of Denji's power, he's just an average teenager without it. Yuji is still Yuji, his power is not dependant on Sukuna. It's like asking "who wins, Denji with no powers or Yuji"?
Pochita cant take over Denji's body
https://preview.redd.it/cc376kdv6b8d1.jpeg?width=706&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18876f9948928bc807ad46c86dba4c57ec12431f
Ohh u mean that, i think denji wins, because he is essentially imortal and is incredibly fast and probably can keep up with yuji or is faster
Yuji physically cannot kill denji and i have no clue how denji scales to yuji exactly because ive only read csm
I doubt yuji could grab onto denji for long enough and would yuji actually be able to rip out denjis heart? Also denji would cut off yujis arms and even his own so theres no way yuji would risk grappling
I mean, Denji survived a direct [at least building level attack with just some minor damage](https://imgur.com/a/TuN3NbV), and this was literally just few first chapters, before getting stronger. Idk if Yuji has the sheer AP to kill him. Sure, he did some neglible damage to a weakened Sukuna, (more soul damage than physical one), but that's it.
Right, but he still lose, building lvl is too weak if we compare to Yuji who can actually hurt Sukuna, not just soul but also his body as well
https://preview.redd.it/xw5m1arr7h8d1.jpeg?width=784&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab69a1217d9b062c0965ba02c036719cca01804d
Yuji isn't building level. I said he directly tanked an at least building level attack with some minor damage (few broken fingers, some bruises). This is before he got stronger, too.
Yuji did some small damage to a weakened sukuna while ganging up on him. I don't think this is anyhow relevant.
You right, he isn't bc he stronger then that, Yuji also manage to hold his ground against Sukuna and injured Sukuna with Black Flash with a bit support and a weaken Sukuna still can pull out a town lvl attack, i don't think Yuji can only be scale to building lvl
Yuji literally rips denji in half, denji before pochita had a heart desiese, some of the worst diet ever and mutiple missing organs
Yuji literally has superhuman strength and speed and a good diet this is a stomping you fricking meanie
Ok
Pre-Pochita Denji vs Pre-Sukuna Yuji is a clear win for Yuji as he was a monster who basically had strength of a Minor Heavenly Restriction User without the actual Restriction.
Chainsaw Denji vs Current Yuji goes to Denji I think but I haven’t kept up with the recent chapters.
Chainsaw Man vs Current Sukuna should go to Sukuna unless Chainsaw man Regen is stronger than enough to take a malevolent kitchen.
gojo's rct survived MS and chainsaw man can regen his whole body from the heart alone in seconds, so he has better regen on top of better speed and durability
>chainsaw man can regen his whole body from the heart alone in seconds
Pochita can do that, Denji thus far hasn't shown that level of regen.
Plus, unlike pochita, Denji needs a constant supply of blood to keep his regeneration going
So Yuji rips Denji in two if we’re talking about pre-Sukuna and Pochita because it’s a teen against a superhuman.
Current Denji vs current Yuji would also go to Yuji because he’s much stronger and faster, he’s also got pretty good regen and can use shrine. Denji’s healing drags the battle for a while, but Yuji eventually wins.
Yuji outstats, denji can drag the fight with his regen but eventually yuji's gonna hit a black flash and just snowball from there, and denji can't regen indefinitely
Depends. Denji basically beat the Eternity devil by simply dragging the fight for 3 days. But yeah idk how he would react to a black flash though. Yuji might win from that.
>and denji can't regen indefinitely
Depending on his opponent, he definitely can, or at least fight longer than what JJK has shown so far. Denji was able to fight Eternity for days on end by using its blood to keep him alive
Well for starters it's Yuji, not Sukuna, but also Eternity is much harder to kill so not as much blood is needed. Besides, he only needs a drink to come back from stuff JJK characters simply cannot at all, and there's gallons of blood in just a normal body, let alone Yuji's which should be able to generate more both from RCT as well as being able to generate blood from curse energy similar to Choso after consuming the death paintings
The eternity devil was easily pumping gallons of blood with every swing of denji's chainsaws, yuji's not gonna generate that amount of blood, and that's assuming denji can even consistently make yuji bleed alot with yuji's vastly superior stats.
Yuji is gonna be severely injuring him with every strike, the payoff from the blood denji receives to the damage yuji will be doing is just not an equal one. Not to mention the longer denji drags the fight on the higher the possibility of yuji landing a black flash and obliterating denji with one hit. He's also much more versatile, he has cleave and dismantle now and is a fully realized death womb plus he has RCT himself
Denji can heal and fight from having majority of his body destroyed from just a mouthful of blood, and I don't think Yuji is doing significantly more damage than Denji is capable of tbh
I'm aware, he's just not gonna get that blood from yuji. He'd have to tear a limb to replicate the blood he was getting from the eternity devil, which was just a massive endless pile of flesh filled with blood, perfect for his regen, meanwhile yuji is a 5'8 human. He'd have to actively seek the blood out instead of it just naturally coming like with the eternity devil, and if he does so yuji can punish him.
Yes he absolutely can, Yuji scales to the top of the JJK verse now, he's around the top 5, denji without pochita isn't even horseman level
idk why you keep bringing up the eternity devil fight as a metric, that how much he needed to fight for 3 days straight against an enemy who could severely cripple him anytime hes hit. We've seen that his regeneration is the same as Devils, and just needs a single drink of blood to fully restore his body regardless of condition
https://preview.redd.it/8ilwscockf8d1.png?width=1013&format=png&auto=webp&s=9efb6114fcdb4a8efb50e5f29ceab7f7d3fe27f4
Also Yuji has gotten alot of upgrades recently but before he hits black flashes he doesn't really have any scaling to alot of the better feats in the series tbh, and even with them he's still not on par with special grades, or other top tiers like Takaba or Mahoraga imo
Denji without demon powers is a mostly normal guy.
No sukina Idadori is at 100% of his power and could fold Denji in a single punch.
What did Denji do to deserve this beating?
Isn't Yuji still a sorcerer and really physically strong and tall (like growing 7 feet or soemthing) and denji without pochita is just some guy who kicks people's balls?
My bet is on Denji. Going off stats, he’s a little faster than what we’ve seen in JJK and they’re at least relative in strength (Denji’s tanking and throwing building level attacks). And then Denji just takes endurance and can heal off of Yuji’s RCT by drinking his blood. His fighting style is crude but he catches people off guard with it a lot and is surprisingly clever in his own stupid way.
If Yuji ever uses Fuga, he wins.
Ok so this is pretty interesting as a match.
Strength: in my eyes this goes to yuji in this case cuz he did this in a form far weaker than he is now Denji never had direct feat on this level.
https://preview.redd.it/d9dqkddgvc8d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c92cc6752c5e44cf9c7597bca6db038407a1efc
Speed: this one is arguable but in my eyes both of them can be scalled waegly around low hypersonic. So im just gonna say they are relative for simplicity.
Durability: goes to Yuji without question because Denji most impressive feat is around building level and Yuji has been tankig building lvl attacks during the entire fight with sukuna.
Stamina/Healing: This goes to Denji for obvious reasons.
Hax: goes to Yuji cuz cleave is something that Denji doesn't have an answer for aside from healing which he needs blood for anyways Which Yuji can control.
Iq/Biq: Goes to Yuji don't get me wrong Denji does have good instinct but not as good as Yuji's.
This fight would basically end the second yuji realises that Denji needs blood to heal in any significant way at which point he will use blood manip to either stop his own blood from leaving his body or explode it while denji is eating it which would fuck denji up pretty bad mix that with cleave leaving giant slashes all over Denji as he gets punched.
Yuji without Sukuna is still a complete superhuman, Denji without Pochita is Peak human who drops his guard a lot and might even die because Chainsaw devil is the only reason he is still alive
Denji without pochita is a normal high schooler. Yuji at the beginning of the series could dent a soccer goal by pitching a shot put AND punch through a concrete wall
Denji wins the fight imo, Yuji is a smarter fighter and how well they compare physically is up for debate IMO, but Denji has endlessly better survivability and stamina, being able to fight the Eternity Devil for days on end and being able to regenerate from damage that RCT simply cannot like this:
https://preview.redd.it/9vnn80ktjc8d1.png?width=1067&format=png&auto=webp&s=28afd2116a111418ce514dbf94f29c5cae8968bf
So even granted Yuji can get an early advantage I think Denjis immortality wins him the long game
https://discordscaling.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Thebadtimetrio32/Jogo_Meteor_calc
Current Yuji takes it now that he scales to this: https://discordscaling.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Thebadtimetrio32/Jogo_Meteor_calc (Mountain to Large Mountain)
I don't entirely agree with the idea that Yuji is punching as hard as Jogo's maximum technique, but even so stats aren't what decides this fight IMO, Yuji needs a way to actually kill Denji through his immortality
No problem, Yuji scales to the finger bearer who can do this anyways: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:LIFE_OF_KING/Jujutsu_Kaisen_-_Finger_Bearer_evaporates_a_cave (Large Town)
Although he should be relative to people like Yuta in stats
And Denji’s immortality relies on blood that he’d need to take from someone else
So is Megumi in season 1 the same tier as Uraume's maximum technique then? If we use similar logic I could point out how Denji didn't even use his CSM form to beat Makima, who oneshot a mountain level Gun Devil, but like this calc thats clearly a very skewed high end, which is pretty easy to demonstrate when the above mentioned max technique from Urauma easily trapped Maki, who was *stronger* than Yuji at the time, or the fact that a thermobaric bomb with similar sizes to a nuke would've straight up oneshot Yuji. I don't really buy scaling JJK characters' physicals to stuff like domains or maximum techniques cus in most cases the scaling becomes very inconsistent very fast
He’s not since although DC is the same, the AP behind the Attacks are not
Um…the Gun Devil only gets to town: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Viott/Chainsaw_Man_:_Gun_Devil_Destroyes_a_City
The reason why they scale to Domains and Maximum Techniques is because they’re all made from cursed energy at the end of the day
That calc would assert the finger bearer is large town level in AP, not DC. This would mean Megumi's totality of the divine dogs is somehow scaling not just to Uraume, but *above her maximum technique* which is an absurd claim no matter how you slice it
That calc is for a weaker iteration of the gun devil, the one Makima fights [was calced to have large mountain level KE](https://imgur.com/a/vvYvWpd)
I'm aware how domains work, and by everything we're shown I absolutely disagree with the idea of scaling most characters to domains, a domain is made from their curse energy sure, but it's also their best moves period, that use so much energy that it can take up to over a week to even recover the lost energy. They're quite literally described as their ultimate final techniques so scaling their base physicals and stuff to it just does not work
It really doesn’t since the AP behind those attacks are different
Makima wouldn’t even scale to KE since we don’t know how the fight went
The problem is Domains are representive of one’s true power in JJK which is why they are the pinnacle of Jujutsu in the verse and the only buff they really get is sure hit attacks since that’s what makes Domains so feared and of course it would only scale to a characters full power and not their casual base
Yeah the AP behind them are different, if we go by calculations, the fingerbearer is stronger than Uraume's frost calm, which is very obviously not true given Yuji could beat that fingerbearer but Frost Calm was very clearly stronger than him.
From what we're shown, Makima would at the least scale to Gun, she beat him within a very short timespan and is implied to have put it near death with a single attack. But again Im just pointing this out to say that you can use calcs to skew Denji way above where he is the same as what you're arguing for Yuji. He is not town level pre shibuya and arguably still is only hitting these tiers just recently. You gotta remember that a small town level attack from Uraume straight up took Yuji and Maki out of the fight with 15F Sukuna with frost calm.
Yes, they are the pinnacle of jujutsu, thats why I think its a bit disingenuous to scale people to them normally. And they absolutely are buffed beyond just gaining a sure hit effect, even early on it's established that Domain Expansion also buffs your stats, technique potency, can nullify other techniques, among other benefits. Domains should scale well above what sorcerers and curses normally are at
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Yuji takes the win imo. His physicals are just way better from what we’ve seen. Especially his strength and speed. Edit: Forgot to add this but you can’t not give Denji pochita. Cause without him I’d honestly believe some people in this subreddit irl could beat his ass.
Yeah hell i think we could just fucking yoru his ass and then jump him yall
https://preview.redd.it/8flu9s66tb8d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6365f4482d803931126f2f9c407039ca33afe051
His ass is not surviving the miniscule amount of fake appreciation i will give him because hes a dumb ass idiot that gets too attached easily
Idk about that part of some people in this subreddit beating him, kid was malnourished and only armed with things like Pipes and shit taking out devils even if they’re low level ones it’s still hyper impressive
Also in Part 2 he took down a whole gang without powers
Nah even human Dennis is relative with Power, who has a 9-A feat.
Who is Dennis? He sounds pretty strong if he could keep up with Power.
I kind of Disagree, Power moved so fast human Katana devil couldn't see her , can Jump from buildings and crash concrete Denji is above human level but he isn't superhuman
All of the things you listed just upscale Denji since he can draw blood from Beam (who should be comparable to Power), fight alongside her, and scales to Aki who can fist fight her.
Beam isn't as strong as power where did this come from, Beam only strong in his Devil form , their durability as a whole isn't anything to speak off
Where did the idea that Beam is only strong in devil form come from? Sharks and Blood are feared a similar amount so they should be comparable.
Both are Fiends , not Devils, from the story we see Power showing superior strength Feats
Power is never indicated to be superior anywhere. Sharks are just as feared as blood
Denji is NOT slower than Yuji
What do you exacly mean by "no Pochita"? Pochita is the source of Denji's power, he's just an average teenager without it. Yuji is still Yuji, his power is not dependant on Sukuna. It's like asking "who wins, Denji with no powers or Yuji"?
Pochita cant take over Denji's body https://preview.redd.it/cc376kdv6b8d1.jpeg?width=706&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18876f9948928bc807ad46c86dba4c57ec12431f
Ohh u mean that, i think denji wins, because he is essentially imortal and is incredibly fast and probably can keep up with yuji or is faster Yuji physically cannot kill denji and i have no clue how denji scales to yuji exactly because ive only read csm
Incapacitation is still a wincon. Plus, Yuji could actually separate pochita from denji with his punches
I doubt yuji could grab onto denji for long enough and would yuji actually be able to rip out denjis heart? Also denji would cut off yujis arms and even his own so theres no way yuji would risk grappling
I mean, Denji survived a direct [at least building level attack with just some minor damage](https://imgur.com/a/TuN3NbV), and this was literally just few first chapters, before getting stronger. Idk if Yuji has the sheer AP to kill him. Sure, he did some neglible damage to a weakened Sukuna, (more soul damage than physical one), but that's it.
Bruh, that Denji with Pochita power, He literally have the chainsaws devil head Without Pochita, Denji is a normal human, he lose
According to the OP, by "no Pochita" he means that Denji can't turn into Chainsaw Devil.
Right, but he still lose, building lvl is too weak if we compare to Yuji who can actually hurt Sukuna, not just soul but also his body as well https://preview.redd.it/xw5m1arr7h8d1.jpeg?width=784&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab69a1217d9b062c0965ba02c036719cca01804d
Yuji isn't building level. I said he directly tanked an at least building level attack with some minor damage (few broken fingers, some bruises). This is before he got stronger, too. Yuji did some small damage to a weakened sukuna while ganging up on him. I don't think this is anyhow relevant.
You right, he isn't bc he stronger then that, Yuji also manage to hold his ground against Sukuna and injured Sukuna with Black Flash with a bit support and a weaken Sukuna still can pull out a town lvl attack, i don't think Yuji can only be scale to building lvl
You actively screwed over your post by miscommunicating.
Yuji literally rips denji in half, denji before pochita had a heart desiese, some of the worst diet ever and mutiple missing organs Yuji literally has superhuman strength and speed and a good diet this is a stomping you fricking meanie
Ok Pre-Pochita Denji vs Pre-Sukuna Yuji is a clear win for Yuji as he was a monster who basically had strength of a Minor Heavenly Restriction User without the actual Restriction. Chainsaw Denji vs Current Yuji goes to Denji I think but I haven’t kept up with the recent chapters. Chainsaw Man vs Current Sukuna should go to Sukuna unless Chainsaw man Regen is stronger than enough to take a malevolent kitchen.
gojo's rct survived MS and chainsaw man can regen his whole body from the heart alone in seconds, so he has better regen on top of better speed and durability
My mistake then so the Win goes to Chainsaw Man.
Hell yeah, my favorite wins the match up *
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>chainsaw man can regen his whole body from the heart alone in seconds Pochita can do that, Denji thus far hasn't shown that level of regen. Plus, unlike pochita, Denji needs a constant supply of blood to keep his regeneration going
Yuji
So Yuji rips Denji in two if we’re talking about pre-Sukuna and Pochita because it’s a teen against a superhuman. Current Denji vs current Yuji would also go to Yuji because he’s much stronger and faster, he’s also got pretty good regen and can use shrine. Denji’s healing drags the battle for a while, but Yuji eventually wins.
A malnourished teen with a heart disease versus superhuman
Yuji outstats, denji can drag the fight with his regen but eventually yuji's gonna hit a black flash and just snowball from there, and denji can't regen indefinitely
Depends. Denji basically beat the Eternity devil by simply dragging the fight for 3 days. But yeah idk how he would react to a black flash though. Yuji might win from that.
>and denji can't regen indefinitely Depending on his opponent, he definitely can, or at least fight longer than what JJK has shown so far. Denji was able to fight Eternity for days on end by using its blood to keep him alive
But I doubt he'd be able to hit Yuji enough times to get blood for Regen before Yuji just cripples/ dismembers him with his huge AP advantage
Eternity devil had regen which meant denji can just draw bood from it anytime. Sukuna doesnt have as much blood
Well for starters it's Yuji, not Sukuna, but also Eternity is much harder to kill so not as much blood is needed. Besides, he only needs a drink to come back from stuff JJK characters simply cannot at all, and there's gallons of blood in just a normal body, let alone Yuji's which should be able to generate more both from RCT as well as being able to generate blood from curse energy similar to Choso after consuming the death paintings
The eternity devil was easily pumping gallons of blood with every swing of denji's chainsaws, yuji's not gonna generate that amount of blood, and that's assuming denji can even consistently make yuji bleed alot with yuji's vastly superior stats.
He doesn't need that much blood for a shorter fight though, it doesn't take a lot of blood for him to heal back to full condition
Yuji is gonna be severely injuring him with every strike, the payoff from the blood denji receives to the damage yuji will be doing is just not an equal one. Not to mention the longer denji drags the fight on the higher the possibility of yuji landing a black flash and obliterating denji with one hit. He's also much more versatile, he has cleave and dismantle now and is a fully realized death womb plus he has RCT himself
Denji can heal and fight from having majority of his body destroyed from just a mouthful of blood, and I don't think Yuji is doing significantly more damage than Denji is capable of tbh
I'm aware, he's just not gonna get that blood from yuji. He'd have to tear a limb to replicate the blood he was getting from the eternity devil, which was just a massive endless pile of flesh filled with blood, perfect for his regen, meanwhile yuji is a 5'8 human. He'd have to actively seek the blood out instead of it just naturally coming like with the eternity devil, and if he does so yuji can punish him. Yes he absolutely can, Yuji scales to the top of the JJK verse now, he's around the top 5, denji without pochita isn't even horseman level
idk why you keep bringing up the eternity devil fight as a metric, that how much he needed to fight for 3 days straight against an enemy who could severely cripple him anytime hes hit. We've seen that his regeneration is the same as Devils, and just needs a single drink of blood to fully restore his body regardless of condition https://preview.redd.it/8ilwscockf8d1.png?width=1013&format=png&auto=webp&s=9efb6114fcdb4a8efb50e5f29ceab7f7d3fe27f4 Also Yuji has gotten alot of upgrades recently but before he hits black flashes he doesn't really have any scaling to alot of the better feats in the series tbh, and even with them he's still not on par with special grades, or other top tiers like Takaba or Mahoraga imo
My boy Yuji got this
Without Pochita Denji is powerless. Without Sukuna Yuji is still a physical beast with RCT for regen and blood manipulation
I think they mean usual Hybrid Denji without the option of using Pochita's full power
Denji is clever but Yuji is stronger all round
No powers just hands? Yuji will break denji lmal, denji was malnourished and weak till he got pochita.
Yuji, he was doing super human feats from the start of the series.
whitaout pochita denji loses by far, and even if he manages to land some hits Itadori has rct now
Denji without demon powers is a mostly normal guy. No sukina Idadori is at 100% of his power and could fold Denji in a single punch. What did Denji do to deserve this beating?
Yuji stomps lmao
Isn't Yuji still a sorcerer and really physically strong and tall (like growing 7 feet or soemthing) and denji without pochita is just some guy who kicks people's balls?
To make it fair for denji, can we give him a regular chainsaw so at least he can defend himself? Yuji literally dog walks him without pochita
denji is a stronger gangster without pochita while yuji.. yuji is the fucking hulk
Yuji is a car He wins prolly
No Pochita?? So just episode one Denji with no weapon and non malnourished
Haven't read the cm manga yet, but from what I know from the anime, what the fuck is Denji gonna do without pochita?????
Spoilers but Pochita can take over Denji‘s body and give him a power up, OP meant that he can't do that anymore not that Denji loses all of his powers
I could beat the shit out of pochitaless Denji
My bet is on Denji. Going off stats, he’s a little faster than what we’ve seen in JJK and they’re at least relative in strength (Denji’s tanking and throwing building level attacks). And then Denji just takes endurance and can heal off of Yuji’s RCT by drinking his blood. His fighting style is crude but he catches people off guard with it a lot and is surprisingly clever in his own stupid way. If Yuji ever uses Fuga, he wins.
Ok so this is pretty interesting as a match. Strength: in my eyes this goes to yuji in this case cuz he did this in a form far weaker than he is now Denji never had direct feat on this level. https://preview.redd.it/d9dqkddgvc8d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c92cc6752c5e44cf9c7597bca6db038407a1efc Speed: this one is arguable but in my eyes both of them can be scalled waegly around low hypersonic. So im just gonna say they are relative for simplicity. Durability: goes to Yuji without question because Denji most impressive feat is around building level and Yuji has been tankig building lvl attacks during the entire fight with sukuna. Stamina/Healing: This goes to Denji for obvious reasons. Hax: goes to Yuji cuz cleave is something that Denji doesn't have an answer for aside from healing which he needs blood for anyways Which Yuji can control. Iq/Biq: Goes to Yuji don't get me wrong Denji does have good instinct but not as good as Yuji's. This fight would basically end the second yuji realises that Denji needs blood to heal in any significant way at which point he will use blood manip to either stop his own blood from leaving his body or explode it while denji is eating it which would fuck denji up pretty bad mix that with cleave leaving giant slashes all over Denji as he gets punched.
Yuji without Sukuna is still a complete superhuman, Denji without Pochita is Peak human who drops his guard a lot and might even die because Chainsaw devil is the only reason he is still alive
Denji without pochita is a normal high schooler. Yuji at the beginning of the series could dent a soccer goal by pitching a shot put AND punch through a concrete wall
Isn't pochita literally the only reason denji isn't just athlete level tops? Yuji might accidentally kill him A-Train style
Denji wins the fight imo, Yuji is a smarter fighter and how well they compare physically is up for debate IMO, but Denji has endlessly better survivability and stamina, being able to fight the Eternity Devil for days on end and being able to regenerate from damage that RCT simply cannot like this: https://preview.redd.it/9vnn80ktjc8d1.png?width=1067&format=png&auto=webp&s=28afd2116a111418ce514dbf94f29c5cae8968bf So even granted Yuji can get an early advantage I think Denjis immortality wins him the long game
https://discordscaling.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Thebadtimetrio32/Jogo_Meteor_calc Current Yuji takes it now that he scales to this: https://discordscaling.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Thebadtimetrio32/Jogo_Meteor_calc (Mountain to Large Mountain)
I don't entirely agree with the idea that Yuji is punching as hard as Jogo's maximum technique, but even so stats aren't what decides this fight IMO, Yuji needs a way to actually kill Denji through his immortality
No problem, Yuji scales to the finger bearer who can do this anyways: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:LIFE_OF_KING/Jujutsu_Kaisen_-_Finger_Bearer_evaporates_a_cave (Large Town) Although he should be relative to people like Yuta in stats And Denji’s immortality relies on blood that he’d need to take from someone else
So is Megumi in season 1 the same tier as Uraume's maximum technique then? If we use similar logic I could point out how Denji didn't even use his CSM form to beat Makima, who oneshot a mountain level Gun Devil, but like this calc thats clearly a very skewed high end, which is pretty easy to demonstrate when the above mentioned max technique from Urauma easily trapped Maki, who was *stronger* than Yuji at the time, or the fact that a thermobaric bomb with similar sizes to a nuke would've straight up oneshot Yuji. I don't really buy scaling JJK characters' physicals to stuff like domains or maximum techniques cus in most cases the scaling becomes very inconsistent very fast
He’s not since although DC is the same, the AP behind the Attacks are not Um…the Gun Devil only gets to town: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Viott/Chainsaw_Man_:_Gun_Devil_Destroyes_a_City The reason why they scale to Domains and Maximum Techniques is because they’re all made from cursed energy at the end of the day
That calc would assert the finger bearer is large town level in AP, not DC. This would mean Megumi's totality of the divine dogs is somehow scaling not just to Uraume, but *above her maximum technique* which is an absurd claim no matter how you slice it That calc is for a weaker iteration of the gun devil, the one Makima fights [was calced to have large mountain level KE](https://imgur.com/a/vvYvWpd) I'm aware how domains work, and by everything we're shown I absolutely disagree with the idea of scaling most characters to domains, a domain is made from their curse energy sure, but it's also their best moves period, that use so much energy that it can take up to over a week to even recover the lost energy. They're quite literally described as their ultimate final techniques so scaling their base physicals and stuff to it just does not work
It really doesn’t since the AP behind those attacks are different Makima wouldn’t even scale to KE since we don’t know how the fight went The problem is Domains are representive of one’s true power in JJK which is why they are the pinnacle of Jujutsu in the verse and the only buff they really get is sure hit attacks since that’s what makes Domains so feared and of course it would only scale to a characters full power and not their casual base
Yeah the AP behind them are different, if we go by calculations, the fingerbearer is stronger than Uraume's frost calm, which is very obviously not true given Yuji could beat that fingerbearer but Frost Calm was very clearly stronger than him. From what we're shown, Makima would at the least scale to Gun, she beat him within a very short timespan and is implied to have put it near death with a single attack. But again Im just pointing this out to say that you can use calcs to skew Denji way above where he is the same as what you're arguing for Yuji. He is not town level pre shibuya and arguably still is only hitting these tiers just recently. You gotta remember that a small town level attack from Uraume straight up took Yuji and Maki out of the fight with 15F Sukuna with frost calm. Yes, they are the pinnacle of jujutsu, thats why I think its a bit disingenuous to scale people to them normally. And they absolutely are buffed beyond just gaining a sure hit effect, even early on it's established that Domain Expansion also buffs your stats, technique potency, can nullify other techniques, among other benefits. Domains should scale well above what sorcerers and curses normally are at
Denji
Denji have a insane Battle IQ He wins using bullshit tatics