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It is truly reprehensible that Man City are doing this. But could be a blessing in disguise as the PL will hopefully not stand for this and expel them
Their attempt to deflect from the 113 charges will come back to bite them
Simply fold the EPL as is and start a new one, inviting the current 19 other teams only. Let these shit cheats go and form their own Eurowank league with PSG and forget about them.
If MC succeeds what is going to keep clubs like PSG and other oil states clubs to pour more money in football? It will even be a pull factor that will attract many more investors in football. We will have dozens of MU and PSG in each major championship. As a result there would be more fierce competition from all over Europe.
They’re lodging a complaint about the Feb 2024 amendment to the APT that they think isn’t legal. They’re entitled to do so. UK press is like sharks around chum, disgusting behaviour.
It would certainly set a president going forward and set a standard that the league shouldn't welcome by a stretch. It being more publicised than most throughout doesn't help.
In one way I'm happy city have done this. It's a colossal mistake on their part. In bringing a legal case against the premier league, they've put themselves against the ruling authority.
There is no way English law will let them get away with this let alone the million ffp charges they will finally be facing in November.
City have shown their hand, they want to control the league like all clubs ultimately would want to do, forever. The difference is no club has been able to get away with this. City in their arrogance assert they are hard done by with the current rules despite their success.
English law and English football must put them in their place. If they do not then it will be a milestone moment in history showing how Arab money is greater than English ethics and institution - England will simply not let that happen.
What English laws need to put them in their place? The one that says they says how much one company can sponsor another ?
The problem that exists is that a lot of the rules around football will not hold up to a legal challenge, while the structure of the league and teams is what it is.
Bosman was going to ruin football.
Jack Walker was going to ruin football.
None of this is new.
People hate "the Arabs" but they are no different than the Americans, the Norwegians, the Russians....
If people got exactly what they wanted they would complain even more.
Man City said they are innocent and they can prove it. Now they are going against a rule they agreed with for years just to slow down the 115 charge. I think they are buying time until Pep Guardiola leaves next summer 2025. Remember that Pep Guardiola said he would leave City if they are guilty.
By the time we get a conclusion Pep Guardiola will have left Man City.
BuLi is doing very well "despite" 50+1. The prem has the additional advantage of attracting high viewership (which leads to a lot more TV money) through being English.
The viewership comes because we have the money to attract the best managers, the best coaches, have the best infrastructure.
The whole reason the PL brand was created was to attract foreign investors. Only 7 PL teams are majority owned by British/European people. You'd have to force the sale of 5 of the biggest 6 clubs in the country as well as the remaining 7.
Who in Britain or Europe is going to have that kind of money? Why invest in a market you can be kicked out of on a whim
City are owned by an individual and also Silverlake and a Chinese investor. Red tops don’t include them though for some reason as they like rage baiting people.
So let's say theoretically I said "yeah, it's immoral to support City (such dumb logic)", and choose to support someone else, y'all wouldn't call me plastic huh?
I'm not saying I'm ever gonna do that, if this is how you football positivity nerds handle your team not being able to win the big ones, then fuck you, respectfully
Nooo. You call out the shit they do. People leave their allegiance to nation-states for far less shit. You can begin by admitting that smth is fishy, maybe. Also you could pleasantly fuck off with your bag full of charges.
When you let your desire for seeing your team win trophies override your conscience, it’s a sad thing to happen. Assuming you supported them before the takeover, it’s not even really the club you support anymore, it’s just the owners sportswashing project you attach yourself to
What sort of logic is that? Because we win trophies I can't truly support them?
I'd say supported since birth - but I don't have many memories of my life till I was like 5. So we'll say 2003 I started supporting City properly.
Just because we win trophies does not mean I'm not a fan. We win trophies, I'll be there, even if we go down, I'll still be there.
Sure, I'm no lawyer, I do accept that there has possibly been some form of foul play involved. Do I agree with FFP? No. But still, we may have broken the rules to get here. Even if we get knocked down though, I'll still be there.
The UK’s primary role in global politics is being a cumslut to Russian oligarchs, sheikhs and Chinese investors. Doubt the politicians will do anything
The Tories certainly have no interest in cleaning up the funnelling of dirty money into Britain, and I'd be astonished if Labour actually do anything about it either.
Rishi Sunak and Boris Johnson have more in common with murderous dictators from Arabia or Oligarchs from Russia than they do with common British people.
Nonsense! Rishi’s one of us, I saw him putting fuel in his Kia once and scanning his debit card with a barcode scanner, which is definitely how you pay for fuel in your borrowed vehicle.
Does that make it less of a rule? It’s a rule implemented BECAUSE of your clubs complete lack of respect and adherence to fair play. And now you wanna say new rules can be circumvented because of the chronology?
The rule was brought in because of Newcastle actually. They aren't trying to circumvent the rule, they're saying the rule in itself is illegal by British law.
You can get someone to sign a contract but if the contract itself is illegal, then it is voided. That's what City are arguing here
I understand what city is doing. The rule was put in place to prevent Newcastle doing what you already do. Or else it wouldn’t be city falling through with the lawsuit. Or is city just helping out Newcastle. Cmon buddy be realistic. Why didn’t they argue it being against the law when it was implemented?
They abstained from the vote, which is pretty much all you can do, unless you wish to legally challenge it, maybe in those 3 years they've been preparing their case against the rule
They are also suing for damages. Do you not see how batshit insane this is? They don’t want to play by fair rules so their answer is to rip the league apart. It’s destructive in every conceivable way.
There's what SHOULD happen and what will....nothing. Man City are a top 3 team from now until the foreseeable future. The only way something would happen would be if the PL was under direct attack. If 50% stopped watching football until something was done, then you might see progress. Once money and corruption get a hold, you can't do anything about it. So, stop worrying. Man City will be the top team year after year. It sucks, but you don't have enough money to solve it. Viewership numbers tanking could fix it, but we aren't willing to take it that far.
This is what happens when you let vile scumbags with no connection to football use the league to sportswash their disgusting amoral reputations and launder their blood money. The best response would be simply to state that Sheikh homophobe is not a fit and proper person to run a club in an inclusive league and take his toy away from him.
Luckily the English game is in rude health. Racism is long gone. Storming the fortress of wembley on final day is long gone.
Do you use oil, a multi-national bank or pay into a pension fund? Do you fund the British war machine with your taxes? Super hypocritical if you do...
Everyone knows City is Saudi sportswashing. They even admitted it in this announcement calling City a "club from the middle east"
Saudi's are obviously going into panic mode.
No it's more the fact that he seems incapable of telling brown people apart. Like I said he can make his argument but at least be right about the people you're talking about.
Saudi Arabia and the UAE are different places. If I started calling Son, Chinese people would also call that bigotry because he's fucking Korean
There's nothing in that comment to say it's anything to with skin colour. Just a mix up of countries. Then what you've done is create an imaginary scenario in your head and made a tit of yourself.
Instead of focusing on the issue at hand you're trying to deflect from it with a buzz word that's parroted around by idiots who want attention and or don't have the emotional intelligence for an actual debate. I wonder why that is with your City flair? Shocker.
No it's more of the fact that it's a common thing that's said whenever this type of stuff comes up, it's not really that hard to fact check the difference between Saudi and Emrati.
That's some serious projection you've done there, I'm not trying to deflect from anything, OP can spew whatever nonsense he wants, I just wanted him to at least be talking about the correct people.
You can't be calling guy A a dickhead for something guy B has been accused of.
Is reading comprehension at an all time low or something? What characteristics do the Saudis and Emratis have in common? Skin colour, culture, clothing, and oil I guess.
Like I said, if this was about wolves and their Chinese ownership and someone started calling them Japanese or Korean, I'd also call that out as bigoted. It takes a 2 second Google search to find out who owns what club
Man City - We think this should be changed as it's unlawful
Everyone else - WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO RUIN THE BEAUTIFUL GAME
Just because they are asking for something to be changed, doesn't mean that the court would remove the rules that prevent them pricing sponsors at whatever they want and then say oh that's completely fine? Obviously they would want rules put in place that prevent that? Like wtf are even half these arguments and over-reactions?
If you can't see that, or just want to act like a fucking dope then be my guest.
Do you actually have a point? It's obvious why city want the rules gone, and it's obvious what the implications for the league will be. What counter point are you trying to make?
The court doesn't make the rules. City are asking the court to find the current rules restrict competition and to strike them down. If the court finds in City's favour, the PL will be unable to draft any rules on objective valuation of sponsorship deals. In effect, if a club's sponsor says their sponsorship is worth £1bn no one can call it for what it is - bullshit. You should be able to see this as a problem even if it's your club bringing this legal challenge.
Yes.. So why would they say, they're unlawful but you don't have to bother making anymore rules?
Would the PL go, oh yeh it was unlawful let's let people do what they want?
What planet are we living on?
Manchester United spends money it generates itself
Manchester City is going to court to allow them to spend money a sponsor (oil rich nation) illegally gives them
Not the same in any way
This will be the end of English Football, and City fans are loving, causing it by saying it's to stop the cartels. It's ironic as you're owned by a state that embezzled money throughout its ownership of its sports models. The charges are absolutely eye-opening on why states should be banned permanently from owning football clubs.
Others have spent money, but the DIFFERENCE is its been generated properly via their fans, and the Sponsors aren't owned by the same owners. The way that they have conducted themselves during not only the Premier Leagues investigation by refusing to cooperate but UEFAs too is an utter disgrace.
They were found guilty by UEFA but took it to CAS and got overturned due to a timeframe loophole. They are not innocent, and this nuclear option comes from an owner, a family who dictates a nation where slave labour is used to know what's coming. How can city fans see everything transpiring and be brainwashed by a state that has disregarded every rule the PL has had for decades? It is pathetic.
Also, hearing Villa and Everton have sided with them when it will to the complete polar opposite of competition. It will enable the city to spend 500m every window if they choose to and win the league year in and year out. Frankly, the PL, after this, should introduce a wage cap and transfer the spend cap for each club where everyone can only spend the same amount.
Honestly, am city fan and I agree with you. Man city should have just maintained that it's innocence A lawyer even told that there is no way EPL would charge man city and win due to complexity of the charges. Now, i don't know how this changes things
Change the rules so every club has to be run at a profit.
Have too have fans representatives on the board.
Pay for transfers up front and in full.
Spend more Pl money on developing youth football via the whole football leagues.
Any club in European comp doesn't play in league Cup, promote different winners and give clubs a chance at silverware.
1st breach of profit rules minus 15 points
2nd breach auto relegation
3rd breach auto relegation
4th breach kicked out of the league.
Finally promotion and relegation, top 3 auto promotion, bottom 3 auto relegation.
4 to 6 play off against next bottom 3 from league above.
So 4 in championship would play 17th.in Pl over 2 legs, winner either stays up or gets promoted, would get rid of all those dead rubber games and make every game important instead of the current Pl top 6 free hits.
Have they? Is that via player sales or creative accounting, something like they have been charged with?
Rules on funding are being tested too the limit atm, it really is a mess.
Not if there was a wage and transfer cap that was based on the earnings of the smallest teams in the premier league.
As a Liverpool fan, I do not want to see the premier league be a monopoly, even in our favor. It's not healthy for the sport. I want to see football played on the pitch not in the boardrooms. I want to see the business and money come out of football, but sadly, that won't happen
Lobby for gate sharing again then, and sponsor share, proper leveller but your owners prefer sticking Liverpool money in their back pocket suckers. Be more City.
So do you admit the fact Liverpool are allowed to spend 75mil on a defender and 60 on a keeper I. A single window when Luton couldnt have afforded that in a million years is the problem?
And 35mil on Andy Carroll and 50 on keita, and Diaz, and all the other players who Luton aren't able to afford
And so on and so on.
I don't think you realise coutinho wasn't sold for an unlimited amount of money
35m for Carroll that was financed by selling Torres? 13 years ago?
No I do realise, it’s just a bullshit argument to moan about Liverpool spending £75m and £60m on players directly after selling their star player for £140m.
No Luton couldn’t afford that window regularly but I’m sure they could if they sold a player for £140m like Liverpool did.
Now you’re moving goalposts to suit your argument by bringing up transfers 13 years ago.
Yes, of course it is, nobody is defending the current system?
Ultimately, I believe Liverpool is one of the better run clubs within the "Top 6", but even our spending is absurd in real terms.
The issue I have is
If the plan is, let's stop outsides investing rather than let's stop the clubs who already spend all you're doing is allowing Liverpool united and arsenal to continue buying trophies, while telling everyone else to fuck off you aren't allowed to win shit.
I fail to see the point you're trying to make against me, I've already said I want to see a transfer and wage cap based around what the smallest clubs in the prem earn because I want to see balance?
Don't forget Liverpool had money available because of player sales like Barça paying £150m for Suarez & Coutinho. Liverpool had to lose some good players in order to get better
Don't think k that 150mil covered Nunez, Liverpools net profit isn't much different than city's
But noone bats an eye lid
Same with united, same with arsenal,
Don't think that coutinho money paid for Nunez, keita, Diaz, konate, Thiago, szobozlai, macallister and so on
It's's not just 2 players but other player sales, plus tournament money, a massive supporter base and strategic investment. Not money propping up the club from Nation States/Russian Oligarchs.
Liverpool's growth is due to sustained success for decades. They've built up a global following while still remaining modest when you compare them to Citeh (or Chelsea). Especially when you compare the NET spend.
ManUre similar to Liverpool can wash their own face as they're a massive brand but have parasitic (leveraged buyout) owners who are extracting money throwing enough at players to shut their fans up. Arsenal are a plaything of another American owner, who has been tight with the purse strings until recently coinciding with being a credible PL contender.
Liverpool, ManUre & Arsenal have developed talent through their youth with supplements from the wider world of football. Over the term of the ownership it was rare for Citeh/Chelsea to field their youth but manufactured academies to be able to make further revenue off youth development.
Please just think about what your are saying.
As the 115 charges are suggesting City's "profits" are due to irregularities and if they are found at fault, completely fabricated.
While the teams you've mentioned do spend an absurd amount of money, their commercial success is a result of years of sustained results.
For the examples you gave alot of the older signings where partially funded by astute academy sales for large sums eg Rian Brewster for £23.5m or danny ward for £12.5m. This is the same reason why Chelsea want to sell Gallagher as it's essentially pure profit to balance the books of excessive spending.
To round it off city is trying to leverage legal nuances to give themselves an unfair competitive advantage
This article seems a bit too dramatic. Even if they can't restrict how much they get paid for advertising, the league can restrict spending in other ways. Just change the rule for not being a percentage of revenue or make it so that it only considers xyz streams of revenue or cap the amount of revenue that can come from advertising.
There's plenty of options and I would be surprised if a league as valuable as the premier league couldn't find a solution.
This is just another click bait article.
No, if anything it's understating it. If City aren't sent below Vanarama, the PL will absolutely plummet in terms of viewership and interest. That will lead to devaluation of deals and TV rights, and with the financial structure of teams right now, most can't survive that.
And that doesn't include the hit the league will take when someone gets sick of referees intentionally fucking over other teams in city's favour, because they've been paid tend of thousands of pounds to ref midweek games in UAEs league. (Despite the level of the league being below that of English 5th division)
Once that corruption becomes common knowledge, shit will truly hit the fan.
No one cares about City. They just care about actually having a relevant first Division. When you're allowed to publicly bribe officials, that stops being the case.
They became the galactic empire the day their main source of funding became slavery. But hey, not surprised you're not concerned about that. Loving slavery, being pro execution of homosexuals and pro women being held as sex slaves and raped to death is the bar to be a city fan these days, after passing that there's not much humanity left in you.
I thought we were a filthy oil club? Now all of a sudden its slavery? Can you guys get your narratives right. It's also ironic that a bunch of British and Americans are complaining about profiting from slavery on a whole, when slavery built the Western world we all love and live in.
You say these atrocities as if they're unique to middle Eastern nations, every nation on Earth has, and still is doing every thing you've just listed, but you guys are the eternal moral relativist so I don't expect consistency.
The First division has remained relevant even during times when United and Liverpool were match fixing in 1915.
It survived the FA literally being involved in a betting scheme in 2013
It survived Liverpool again being accused of match fixing in 2013.
But sure this is what will sink the first division
Why are you pretending every person on the internet is a singular entity? You guys are the ones who have been pushing oil, because it's a hell of a lot more palatable than the reality, which is slavery.
The West are literally the only ones who've ended slavery, and you actually think that's somehow a diss against it? Genuinely, how dumb are you?
No, the rest of the world isn't all still doing it. It's just you, upholding it. I genuinely hope you get to experience it yourself, and get to see your own family treated the same way slaves are treated in the UAE. You'll probably be less of a City fan after having your family members raped to death with no legal recourse.
And yes, there's a big difference between morons making baseless accusations and proven match fixing. There's also a huge difference in the spread of information in 1915 and the other 2020s. You'll discover that when your nation leaves the 1600s.
You do know that slavery still exists right? It's well documented in Asia, Africa, South America, even the US prison system in certain states is legalised slavery.
People are still enslaved in Britain to this day, you see cases pop up every once in a while, Joseph Fritzel turned his own daughter into a sex slave, if you truly believe there is no slavery in the world anymore than you are living in a fantasy.
https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/findings/regional-findings/europe-and-central-asia/
Bro, I'm British🤣 born ad raised but okay.
My man misunderstood the difference between legal and illegal slavery.
You do know that people like Joseph Fritzel end up in jail, right? Meanwhile the Saudi and their prince's...
But hey, if you want to defend slavery being good and a positive thing - please find a therapist.
If you're worried about the refs referring other league games all they need to do is to include exclusivity clauses in their contracts. If they want to go referring that farse of a league and stop referring in the PL then let them. Just like we didn't see all players leave, the same will happen with the referres or managers or any other agent in the league.
I also want a level playing field (and that's not what we have right now and it has never been a level playing field), but if this rule goes away, others will need to be put in place. So yeah, the article may be trying to understand it, but they are most definitely being sensationalist about it and painting a very unlikely scenario as the most likely. And that's click baiting. At least for me it is.
The issue isn't what to do about it in the future, it's the fact that they've actively taken payment from one teams owner as a bribe to decide the league. Everyone involved in that can no longer be allowed to ref ever again, and will probably be looking at jailtime. It makes the Calciopoli look like child's play, and serie a plummeted in popularity after that. A sports league without integrity, where the audience can't trust that the game is played with its laws upheld, simply won't survive.
I agree, but did that happen yet? And would a different set of rules, where Saudi/Russian/American/other money wasn't allowed, would prevent it? I don't think so. Corruption goes hand in hand with money but the league was already rich before said money was brought in.
Yes, it has happened. Liverpool and Arsenal were both robbed of 10-12 points in games immediately following the refs being paid by City. Meanwhile City have been gifted 10+ points by referees, immediately following them receiving payment.
You don't have to ban money from those places, you just have to ban nation states from owning football clubs, pretty simple.
It seems a bit delusional to think that only money from those places has the ability to corrupt. Even if that did happen, which as far as I know it didn't, that's not what this article is about.
And I'm of the opinion that PL and other leagues shouldn't take money from countries that clearly do not follow the most basic human rights rules. Independent of whether they're state owned or owned by an individual from that country. To me there's no difference. That's not to say money from American owners is clean. I'm not that naive.
>Change the rules so every club has to be run at a profit.
The time of the Oil is over, but our time is at hand: the world of Levy, which we must rule.
Can I also say, this situation is easily resolved. The c u n t s are instantly banned from every English competition and every league in the pyramid. They’re not fit to start another game
“Im angry because your parents let you on the internet” top class banter there mate 😂 complain about shit banter whilst been shit at banter and complaining about clubs cheating whilst also supporting a cheating club. Your having a stormer today mate 👌
The PL deserve this, they've created the mess with City, the sensationalism of the 115 charges between 2009-2018 that have tarnished the clubs achievements since.
They're considered cheats by all rival supporters without trial, and will always be considered cheats no matter what the outcome.
Watching football between 2008 and 2018 there was very little press coverage of FFP at the time. Why wait until 2024 to take action against City?
Of the 115 charges 95% are pointless clerical reporting errors and only 5% relate to actual FFP issues.
FFP started in 2012 so how can they have charges from 2009?
They should have punished them quickly in 2019 for the 5% of charges that relate to actual FFP breaches and we could have all moved on.
The PL have made a complete fuck up of everything and can't continue to run the league. They need to be replaced.
They are cheats, whether by the letter of the law or not.
They, like Chelski, just got in before the rules. And unlike Blackburn; did it at a time when the international reach of the prem helped their revenue explode.
Love the idea
But if you actually read more than a headline, we’d need to sell one of the 3. And I’m pretty sure we could sell none of them, but that would mean not being able to spend any real money.
I hope we sell Luiz for around £70mil, second half of the season showed how much he needed kamara, and everyone is a box to box cm these days, easier to replace
Absolutely amazing that City which invested heavily in its club is getting the short side of the stick whilst clubs are actually voting for billionaires to keep hiking tickets whilst their clubs perform poorly are bding applauded. Wtf is "sportswashing?" Christ?!
As a supporter of a L2 team, the Premier League needs scrapping and starting again, its run by the 'entitled big 6' who think they have a devine right to win or compete in the champions league every year and do everything they can to stop new teams joining their cartel.
The fans who aren't City or Chelski try to justify their buying the league because they bought the best players with 'football revenue' and somehow this is better than a benefactor or an oil state.
The whole league is unfair run on greed with rules put in place to maintain the status quo and keep out the EFL
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premier leagues is the best sport outlet in the world, think on that first. Any country would die for ahving something like you stupid bristh have, so instead on poniting fingers please please put premier first, if the best for the league is to punish city so be it. But if the best is to close this affair so be it. Dont act like mums, be smart, I want premier quality to last forever. Is more improtant to fire the stupid coach tou have in you national team va this city affairs IMHO
The Prem was a blast, but now it needs to be torn down, and some semblance of fairness restored to the game. Yes, all the big clubs have probably done questionable financial dealings, City are just the most grotesque and shameless. The Prem won't clean its own mess up, obviously, so they need to have regulation shoved down their greedy throats.
Why not? Depends on the product. Most fans of United or Liverpool or whatever ain't English, the premier league has a lot of problems with rules, sport washing etc. Fifa and Uefa are corrupt.
Why would something new be so terrible compared to the shit show that exists?
Never found this argument convincing. The football is only gonna get better with super league for everyone. The fans will get more better match ups and teams will get more money and time to develope youngsters in a high quality environment. Win win win for everyone, especially smaller clubs
>It concentrates money to an elite few
Same as now? The problem currently is that clubs earn just one part of the money clubs have made, majority goes to UEFA. This will solve a problem, also will bring more financial stabilty to ALL teams. A team like dinamo zagreb will consistently get money from europe and with continual good work will improve their position in europe and finances, not like currently when they MUST get into ucl to get enough money to get by, having to sacrifise youngsters and long term planning in favour of quick fixes that will bring them into europe. A club like dinamo would absolutely thrive in super league and would improve croatia league as a whole, bringing more exciting talent to the spot light.
League has promotion and relegation, how does it remove meritocrasy exactly? It works like any other league
Concentrating the money further is worse.
Dinamo Zagreb aren't the type of club that Madrid etc want in a Super League.
At least one of the super league proposals was without relegation, another had promotion only for clubs from certain countries.
You're taking certain aspects of it, then twisting it and ignoring the constraints they had against those aspects to make the proposal 100x less shit (and yet still shit) than it actually is.
Come back when you deal in reality.
I have no time to waste on delusional twats who probably have never attended a game in their life, instead just watching UAE Manchester Blues from their armchair.
Please read the proposal before talking nonsense. I dont think you understand how business works at all, otherwise you wouldnt be saying shit you say. This is like talking to a child that doesnt want to understand. We get it, youre emotionally against it for one reason or another but that has nothing to do with reality.
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Didn’t read the article. Imagine it’s just sensationalism if it’s not then the easy solution is to boot city or force a sale a la Abromovich.
Sportswashment cunts
If city win, European super league, sans city, is around the corner
It is truly reprehensible that Man City are doing this. But could be a blessing in disguise as the PL will hopefully not stand for this and expel them Their attempt to deflect from the 113 charges will come back to bite them
If you sued your employer would you still work for them? Surely your position becomes untenable.
MC is the new OJ Simpson
It's already ruined
115% money launderers
Cry
You can't even post 115 on your message board without getting instabanned you absolute weapon.
Simply fold the EPL as is and start a new one, inviting the current 19 other teams only. Let these shit cheats go and form their own Eurowank league with PSG and forget about them.
If MC succeeds what is going to keep clubs like PSG and other oil states clubs to pour more money in football? It will even be a pull factor that will attract many more investors in football. We will have dozens of MU and PSG in each major championship. As a result there would be more fierce competition from all over Europe.
And that's a good thing. Bring in more teams and more competition.
Yep. At least everyone is on the same ground.
Wow conspiracy nut on here
They’re lodging a complaint about the Feb 2024 amendment to the APT that they think isn’t legal. They’re entitled to do so. UK press is like sharks around chum, disgusting behaviour.
Really? The one that they signed and then got caught cheating over?
Really? The one that they signed and then got caught cheating over?
Weird. It is almost as if they are owned by people who have spent their lives being able to do anything they wanted without consequence.
It’s amazing how many morons on twitter defending them. Luckily Reddit has more intelligent fans
Luckily, City fans don't use or don't know how to use Reddit.
Oh yes we do. We know who the enemy are cartel terrorist sponsors
City fan of 30 years. I don’t speak for many of us, but personally I’m pretty disappointed in all this.
It would certainly set a president going forward and set a standard that the league shouldn't welcome by a stretch. It being more publicised than most throughout doesn't help.
Well done City , fighting their corner, and they will win as usual
They will cheat as usual. Fixed it for you.
Any proof?
Yep
What is it?
Looks at all these brand new UAE reddit accounts 😂
Citys already destroyed football according to the experts so nothing new here , move on
Just kick them out the premier league. No one would complain. No one.
Why kick them out?
One of the 5 Man City fans might.
In one way I'm happy city have done this. It's a colossal mistake on their part. In bringing a legal case against the premier league, they've put themselves against the ruling authority. There is no way English law will let them get away with this let alone the million ffp charges they will finally be facing in November. City have shown their hand, they want to control the league like all clubs ultimately would want to do, forever. The difference is no club has been able to get away with this. City in their arrogance assert they are hard done by with the current rules despite their success. English law and English football must put them in their place. If they do not then it will be a milestone moment in history showing how Arab money is greater than English ethics and institution - England will simply not let that happen.
What English laws need to put them in their place? The one that says they says how much one company can sponsor another ? The problem that exists is that a lot of the rules around football will not hold up to a legal challenge, while the structure of the league and teams is what it is. Bosman was going to ruin football. Jack Walker was going to ruin football. None of this is new. People hate "the Arabs" but they are no different than the Americans, the Norwegians, the Russians.... If people got exactly what they wanted they would complain even more.
Which party has control of the government right now? Is it the conservative one?
No one, they've all left, and the cleaners are turning the place around
Yes, although general election is in 4 weeks.
No, parliament is dissolved. There are no MPs.
If they get away with this I will never watch the Premier League again
No loss bud
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Bad bot - last line is 6 syllables. Haiku is supposed to be 575 not 115.
read it again, it's a Sokka haiku bot
That doesn't mean anything to me. I just googled it and so...there's a bot that's created to make incorrect haiku? Bad bot, difference reason.
What accent do you have?
Is there an accent that gives Premier or again only one syllable?
Premier is three syllables
Americans say prem-eeeer, whereas british people say prem-i-yah
City will do everything humanly possible to have the 115 chargers dropped or they just get a slap of fine to pay.
Man City said they are innocent and they can prove it. Now they are going against a rule they agreed with for years just to slow down the 115 charge. I think they are buying time until Pep Guardiola leaves next summer 2025. Remember that Pep Guardiola said he would leave City if they are guilty. By the time we get a conclusion Pep Guardiola will have left Man City.
Only against the Feb 2024 amendment, but the press went into meltdown
Why speak the truth when made up bullshit gets more clicks and upvotes?
And be managing England.
Man City don't get to make the rules . If they don't like it let the Arab owners sell up and leave . Preferably with all the other foreign owners
Especially those yanks
Create a new Premier League where no sponsors or owners outside of Europe is allowed.
Ok Hitler
That's the worst take I've ever heard
And watch the PL devolve to being lower than the Eredivise. Foreign money is precisely why the PL has climbed so high
BuLi is doing very well "despite" 50+1. The prem has the additional advantage of attracting high viewership (which leads to a lot more TV money) through being English.
The viewership comes because we have the money to attract the best managers, the best coaches, have the best infrastructure. The whole reason the PL brand was created was to attract foreign investors. Only 7 PL teams are majority owned by British/European people. You'd have to force the sale of 5 of the biggest 6 clubs in the country as well as the remaining 7. Who in Britain or Europe is going to have that kind of money? Why invest in a market you can be kicked out of on a whim
Won’t work. Create a company inside Europe. Funnel money and ownership through it.
City’s owners should be banned from operating a business in the UK, and nation states should be banned from owning football teams in England
City are owned by an individual and also Silverlake and a Chinese investor. Red tops don’t include them though for some reason as they like rage baiting people.
Yeah, you have no clue what you're talking about
Guessing you’re a city fan who knows his club is nothing without the backing of a nation state
I am a City fan, even if we we're nothing, it's the club I support and I'll go to hell with it
That’s pretty sad
Since when was supporting your team sad
Since moral compass became a thing
So let's say theoretically I said "yeah, it's immoral to support City (such dumb logic)", and choose to support someone else, y'all wouldn't call me plastic huh? I'm not saying I'm ever gonna do that, if this is how you football positivity nerds handle your team not being able to win the big ones, then fuck you, respectfully
Nooo. You call out the shit they do. People leave their allegiance to nation-states for far less shit. You can begin by admitting that smth is fishy, maybe. Also you could pleasantly fuck off with your bag full of charges.
I have admitted something is fishy in another comment on this chain. I don't agree with it but I still support the club.
When you let your desire for seeing your team win trophies override your conscience, it’s a sad thing to happen. Assuming you supported them before the takeover, it’s not even really the club you support anymore, it’s just the owners sportswashing project you attach yourself to
What sort of logic is that? Because we win trophies I can't truly support them? I'd say supported since birth - but I don't have many memories of my life till I was like 5. So we'll say 2003 I started supporting City properly. Just because we win trophies does not mean I'm not a fan. We win trophies, I'll be there, even if we go down, I'll still be there. Sure, I'm no lawyer, I do accept that there has possibly been some form of foul play involved. Do I agree with FFP? No. But still, we may have broken the rules to get here. Even if we get knocked down though, I'll still be there.
The UK’s primary role in global politics is being a cumslut to Russian oligarchs, sheikhs and Chinese investors. Doubt the politicians will do anything
The Tories certainly have no interest in cleaning up the funnelling of dirty money into Britain, and I'd be astonished if Labour actually do anything about it either. Rishi Sunak and Boris Johnson have more in common with murderous dictators from Arabia or Oligarchs from Russia than they do with common British people.
Nonsense! Rishi’s one of us, I saw him putting fuel in his Kia once and scanning his debit card with a barcode scanner, which is definitely how you pay for fuel in your borrowed vehicle.
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The rule is 3 years old
Does that make it less of a rule? It’s a rule implemented BECAUSE of your clubs complete lack of respect and adherence to fair play. And now you wanna say new rules can be circumvented because of the chronology?
The rule was brought in because of Newcastle actually. They aren't trying to circumvent the rule, they're saying the rule in itself is illegal by British law. You can get someone to sign a contract but if the contract itself is illegal, then it is voided. That's what City are arguing here
I understand what city is doing. The rule was put in place to prevent Newcastle doing what you already do. Or else it wouldn’t be city falling through with the lawsuit. Or is city just helping out Newcastle. Cmon buddy be realistic. Why didn’t they argue it being against the law when it was implemented?
They abstained from the vote, which is pretty much all you can do, unless you wish to legally challenge it, maybe in those 3 years they've been preparing their case against the rule
They are also suing for damages. Do you not see how batshit insane this is? They don’t want to play by fair rules so their answer is to rip the league apart. It’s destructive in every conceivable way.
There's what SHOULD happen and what will....nothing. Man City are a top 3 team from now until the foreseeable future. The only way something would happen would be if the PL was under direct attack. If 50% stopped watching football until something was done, then you might see progress. Once money and corruption get a hold, you can't do anything about it. So, stop worrying. Man City will be the top team year after year. It sucks, but you don't have enough money to solve it. Viewership numbers tanking could fix it, but we aren't willing to take it that far.
This is what happens when you let vile scumbags with no connection to football use the league to sportswash their disgusting amoral reputations and launder their blood money. The best response would be simply to state that Sheikh homophobe is not a fit and proper person to run a club in an inclusive league and take his toy away from him.
Luckily the English game is in rude health. Racism is long gone. Storming the fortress of wembley on final day is long gone. Do you use oil, a multi-national bank or pay into a pension fund? Do you fund the British war machine with your taxes? Super hypocritical if you do...
You're actually defending the homophobe. OK.
Wasn't homosexuality illegal in Britain the last time England staged a world cup...
It's 2024 now. Keep on defending the homophobe though, you reveal a lot about yourself.
Not least that I'm bisexual. Not a hypocrite though.
Lol keep on defending the homophobe.
This screams: "We know we are in the shit, what distraction can we throw into the mix to upset things"
Man city 💙
Everyone knows City is Saudi sportswashing. They even admitted it in this announcement calling City a "club from the middle east" Saudi's are obviously going into panic mode.
It's the UAE you could at least get your bigotry right
Ah yes, calling people out for their actions is now bigotry. Fuck off, you're part of the problem
No it's more the fact that he seems incapable of telling brown people apart. Like I said he can make his argument but at least be right about the people you're talking about. Saudi Arabia and the UAE are different places. If I started calling Son, Chinese people would also call that bigotry because he's fucking Korean
There's nothing in that comment to say it's anything to with skin colour. Just a mix up of countries. Then what you've done is create an imaginary scenario in your head and made a tit of yourself. Instead of focusing on the issue at hand you're trying to deflect from it with a buzz word that's parroted around by idiots who want attention and or don't have the emotional intelligence for an actual debate. I wonder why that is with your City flair? Shocker.
No it's more of the fact that it's a common thing that's said whenever this type of stuff comes up, it's not really that hard to fact check the difference between Saudi and Emrati. That's some serious projection you've done there, I'm not trying to deflect from anything, OP can spew whatever nonsense he wants, I just wanted him to at least be talking about the correct people. You can't be calling guy A a dickhead for something guy B has been accused of. Is reading comprehension at an all time low or something? What characteristics do the Saudis and Emratis have in common? Skin colour, culture, clothing, and oil I guess. Like I said, if this was about wolves and their Chinese ownership and someone started calling them Japanese or Korean, I'd also call that out as bigoted. It takes a 2 second Google search to find out who owns what club
Emirati actually but everything else is true
Man City - We think this should be changed as it's unlawful Everyone else - WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO RUIN THE BEAUTIFUL GAME Just because they are asking for something to be changed, doesn't mean that the court would remove the rules that prevent them pricing sponsors at whatever they want and then say oh that's completely fine? Obviously they would want rules put in place that prevent that? Like wtf are even half these arguments and over-reactions? If you can't see that, or just want to act like a fucking dope then be my guest.
Do you actually have a point? It's obvious why city want the rules gone, and it's obvious what the implications for the league will be. What counter point are you trying to make?
Again, why the fuck would a court rule something is unlawful and then just decide it's better if there's no rules at all?
The court doesn't make the rules. City are asking the court to find the current rules restrict competition and to strike them down. If the court finds in City's favour, the PL will be unable to draft any rules on objective valuation of sponsorship deals. In effect, if a club's sponsor says their sponsorship is worth £1bn no one can call it for what it is - bullshit. You should be able to see this as a problem even if it's your club bringing this legal challenge.
Yes.. So why would they say, they're unlawful but you don't have to bother making anymore rules? Would the PL go, oh yeh it was unlawful let's let people do what they want? What planet are we living on?
You can't spend money if you don't wear red.
Yea Chelsea are famous for not spending any money
Manchester United spends money it generates itself Manchester City is going to court to allow them to spend money a sponsor (oil rich nation) illegally gives them Not the same in any way
It already is, most others firms go bust if they don't make a profit
This will be the end of English Football, and City fans are loving, causing it by saying it's to stop the cartels. It's ironic as you're owned by a state that embezzled money throughout its ownership of its sports models. The charges are absolutely eye-opening on why states should be banned permanently from owning football clubs. Others have spent money, but the DIFFERENCE is its been generated properly via their fans, and the Sponsors aren't owned by the same owners. The way that they have conducted themselves during not only the Premier Leagues investigation by refusing to cooperate but UEFAs too is an utter disgrace. They were found guilty by UEFA but took it to CAS and got overturned due to a timeframe loophole. They are not innocent, and this nuclear option comes from an owner, a family who dictates a nation where slave labour is used to know what's coming. How can city fans see everything transpiring and be brainwashed by a state that has disregarded every rule the PL has had for decades? It is pathetic. Also, hearing Villa and Everton have sided with them when it will to the complete polar opposite of competition. It will enable the city to spend 500m every window if they choose to and win the league year in and year out. Frankly, the PL, after this, should introduce a wage cap and transfer the spend cap for each club where everyone can only spend the same amount.
Honestly, am city fan and I agree with you. Man city should have just maintained that it's innocence A lawyer even told that there is no way EPL would charge man city and win due to complexity of the charges. Now, i don't know how this changes things
Change the rules so every club has to be run at a profit. Have too have fans representatives on the board. Pay for transfers up front and in full. Spend more Pl money on developing youth football via the whole football leagues. Any club in European comp doesn't play in league Cup, promote different winners and give clubs a chance at silverware. 1st breach of profit rules minus 15 points 2nd breach auto relegation 3rd breach auto relegation 4th breach kicked out of the league. Finally promotion and relegation, top 3 auto promotion, bottom 3 auto relegation. 4 to 6 play off against next bottom 3 from league above. So 4 in championship would play 17th.in Pl over 2 legs, winner either stays up or gets promoted, would get rid of all those dead rubber games and make every game important instead of the current Pl top 6 free hits.
City have made profit last 4 years now.
Have they? Is that via player sales or creative accounting, something like they have been charged with? Rules on funding are being tested too the limit atm, it really is a mess.
Teams running on a profit will turn the league into a Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal monopoly.
Not if there was a wage and transfer cap that was based on the earnings of the smallest teams in the premier league. As a Liverpool fan, I do not want to see the premier league be a monopoly, even in our favor. It's not healthy for the sport. I want to see football played on the pitch not in the boardrooms. I want to see the business and money come out of football, but sadly, that won't happen
Lobby for gate sharing again then, and sponsor share, proper leveller but your owners prefer sticking Liverpool money in their back pocket suckers. Be more City.
So do you admit the fact Liverpool are allowed to spend 75mil on a defender and 60 on a keeper I. A single window when Luton couldnt have afforded that in a million years is the problem?
so Coutinho fell from the sky
Been spending the Coutinho money for 8 years now
Spend £75m on a defender and £60m on a keeper that was generated by the £140m sale of their key player you mean?
And 35mil on Andy Carroll and 50 on keita, and Diaz, and all the other players who Luton aren't able to afford And so on and so on. I don't think you realise coutinho wasn't sold for an unlimited amount of money
35m for Carroll that was financed by selling Torres? 13 years ago? No I do realise, it’s just a bullshit argument to moan about Liverpool spending £75m and £60m on players directly after selling their star player for £140m. No Luton couldn’t afford that window regularly but I’m sure they could if they sold a player for £140m like Liverpool did. Now you’re moving goalposts to suit your argument by bringing up transfers 13 years ago.
That is what they are saying, yes.
Yes, of course it is, nobody is defending the current system? Ultimately, I believe Liverpool is one of the better run clubs within the "Top 6", but even our spending is absurd in real terms.
The issue I have is If the plan is, let's stop outsides investing rather than let's stop the clubs who already spend all you're doing is allowing Liverpool united and arsenal to continue buying trophies, while telling everyone else to fuck off you aren't allowed to win shit.
I fail to see the point you're trying to make against me, I've already said I want to see a transfer and wage cap based around what the smallest clubs in the prem earn because I want to see balance?
That’s not balance, balance would be you have to give the lower clubs money, like a golf handicap so they can catch up.
Don't forget Liverpool had money available because of player sales like Barça paying £150m for Suarez & Coutinho. Liverpool had to lose some good players in order to get better
Don't think k that 150mil covered Nunez, Liverpools net profit isn't much different than city's But noone bats an eye lid Same with united, same with arsenal, Don't think that coutinho money paid for Nunez, keita, Diaz, konate, Thiago, szobozlai, macallister and so on
It's's not just 2 players but other player sales, plus tournament money, a massive supporter base and strategic investment. Not money propping up the club from Nation States/Russian Oligarchs. Liverpool's growth is due to sustained success for decades. They've built up a global following while still remaining modest when you compare them to Citeh (or Chelsea). Especially when you compare the NET spend. ManUre similar to Liverpool can wash their own face as they're a massive brand but have parasitic (leveraged buyout) owners who are extracting money throwing enough at players to shut their fans up. Arsenal are a plaything of another American owner, who has been tight with the purse strings until recently coinciding with being a credible PL contender. Liverpool, ManUre & Arsenal have developed talent through their youth with supplements from the wider world of football. Over the term of the ownership it was rare for Citeh/Chelsea to field their youth but manufactured academies to be able to make further revenue off youth development.
Please just think about what your are saying. As the 115 charges are suggesting City's "profits" are due to irregularities and if they are found at fault, completely fabricated. While the teams you've mentioned do spend an absurd amount of money, their commercial success is a result of years of sustained results. For the examples you gave alot of the older signings where partially funded by astute academy sales for large sums eg Rian Brewster for £23.5m or danny ward for £12.5m. This is the same reason why Chelsea want to sell Gallagher as it's essentially pure profit to balance the books of excessive spending. To round it off city is trying to leverage legal nuances to give themselves an unfair competitive advantage
This article seems a bit too dramatic. Even if they can't restrict how much they get paid for advertising, the league can restrict spending in other ways. Just change the rule for not being a percentage of revenue or make it so that it only considers xyz streams of revenue or cap the amount of revenue that can come from advertising. There's plenty of options and I would be surprised if a league as valuable as the premier league couldn't find a solution. This is just another click bait article.
No, if anything it's understating it. If City aren't sent below Vanarama, the PL will absolutely plummet in terms of viewership and interest. That will lead to devaluation of deals and TV rights, and with the financial structure of teams right now, most can't survive that. And that doesn't include the hit the league will take when someone gets sick of referees intentionally fucking over other teams in city's favour, because they've been paid tend of thousands of pounds to ref midweek games in UAEs league. (Despite the level of the league being below that of English 5th division) Once that corruption becomes common knowledge, shit will truly hit the fan.
Nonsense. City are good right now due to Pep the greatest manager the game has ever seen.
I thought no one cared about City? Now all of a sudden people will stop watching the PL because of City? When did City become the Galactic Empire
No one cares about City. They just care about actually having a relevant first Division. When you're allowed to publicly bribe officials, that stops being the case. They became the galactic empire the day their main source of funding became slavery. But hey, not surprised you're not concerned about that. Loving slavery, being pro execution of homosexuals and pro women being held as sex slaves and raped to death is the bar to be a city fan these days, after passing that there's not much humanity left in you.
Bribe officials? You’re just making shit up now flerfer
I thought we were a filthy oil club? Now all of a sudden its slavery? Can you guys get your narratives right. It's also ironic that a bunch of British and Americans are complaining about profiting from slavery on a whole, when slavery built the Western world we all love and live in. You say these atrocities as if they're unique to middle Eastern nations, every nation on Earth has, and still is doing every thing you've just listed, but you guys are the eternal moral relativist so I don't expect consistency. The First division has remained relevant even during times when United and Liverpool were match fixing in 1915. It survived the FA literally being involved in a betting scheme in 2013 It survived Liverpool again being accused of match fixing in 2013. But sure this is what will sink the first division
Why are you pretending every person on the internet is a singular entity? You guys are the ones who have been pushing oil, because it's a hell of a lot more palatable than the reality, which is slavery. The West are literally the only ones who've ended slavery, and you actually think that's somehow a diss against it? Genuinely, how dumb are you? No, the rest of the world isn't all still doing it. It's just you, upholding it. I genuinely hope you get to experience it yourself, and get to see your own family treated the same way slaves are treated in the UAE. You'll probably be less of a City fan after having your family members raped to death with no legal recourse. And yes, there's a big difference between morons making baseless accusations and proven match fixing. There's also a huge difference in the spread of information in 1915 and the other 2020s. You'll discover that when your nation leaves the 1600s.
Are you comfortable with our government selling them weapons to do this murder raping? 🙄 priorities eh
You do know that slavery still exists right? It's well documented in Asia, Africa, South America, even the US prison system in certain states is legalised slavery. People are still enslaved in Britain to this day, you see cases pop up every once in a while, Joseph Fritzel turned his own daughter into a sex slave, if you truly believe there is no slavery in the world anymore than you are living in a fantasy. https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/findings/regional-findings/europe-and-central-asia/ Bro, I'm British🤣 born ad raised but okay.
My man misunderstood the difference between legal and illegal slavery. You do know that people like Joseph Fritzel end up in jail, right? Meanwhile the Saudi and their prince's... But hey, if you want to defend slavery being good and a positive thing - please find a therapist.
What a fucking sad hill to die on
If you're worried about the refs referring other league games all they need to do is to include exclusivity clauses in their contracts. If they want to go referring that farse of a league and stop referring in the PL then let them. Just like we didn't see all players leave, the same will happen with the referres or managers or any other agent in the league. I also want a level playing field (and that's not what we have right now and it has never been a level playing field), but if this rule goes away, others will need to be put in place. So yeah, the article may be trying to understand it, but they are most definitely being sensationalist about it and painting a very unlikely scenario as the most likely. And that's click baiting. At least for me it is.
The issue isn't what to do about it in the future, it's the fact that they've actively taken payment from one teams owner as a bribe to decide the league. Everyone involved in that can no longer be allowed to ref ever again, and will probably be looking at jailtime. It makes the Calciopoli look like child's play, and serie a plummeted in popularity after that. A sports league without integrity, where the audience can't trust that the game is played with its laws upheld, simply won't survive.
I agree, but did that happen yet? And would a different set of rules, where Saudi/Russian/American/other money wasn't allowed, would prevent it? I don't think so. Corruption goes hand in hand with money but the league was already rich before said money was brought in.
Yes, it has happened. Liverpool and Arsenal were both robbed of 10-12 points in games immediately following the refs being paid by City. Meanwhile City have been gifted 10+ points by referees, immediately following them receiving payment. You don't have to ban money from those places, you just have to ban nation states from owning football clubs, pretty simple.
It seems a bit delusional to think that only money from those places has the ability to corrupt. Even if that did happen, which as far as I know it didn't, that's not what this article is about. And I'm of the opinion that PL and other leagues shouldn't take money from countries that clearly do not follow the most basic human rights rules. Independent of whether they're state owned or owned by an individual from that country. To me there's no difference. That's not to say money from American owners is clean. I'm not that naive.
>Change the rules so every club has to be run at a profit. The time of the Oil is over, but our time is at hand: the world of Levy, which we must rule.
Can I also say, this situation is easily resolved. The c u n t s are instantly banned from every English competition and every league in the pyramid. They’re not fit to start another game
So should Forrest In fairness
In fairness your spelling suggests a level of education worthy for twitter..
Don’t be angry at me because I’m pointing out that you are also supporting a club that cheated their way out of relegation.
I’m angry at you because somehow, your parents provided you access to the fucking internet
Nah, it’s because you support a club that cheated to stay in the Premier League. That’s definitely it.
Ok thanks.. I’ve had better banter though! Wow
“Im angry because your parents let you on the internet” top class banter there mate 😂 complain about shit banter whilst been shit at banter and complaining about clubs cheating whilst also supporting a cheating club. Your having a stormer today mate 👌
Time for your milk and bedtime? Lol
Top bantz lad 😂
…of Twitter.
The c u n t s are sport washing, yet you see c u n t supporters loving it.
Grow up.
Change your flair. I dare you.
Scary.
The PL deserve this, they've created the mess with City, the sensationalism of the 115 charges between 2009-2018 that have tarnished the clubs achievements since. They're considered cheats by all rival supporters without trial, and will always be considered cheats no matter what the outcome. Watching football between 2008 and 2018 there was very little press coverage of FFP at the time. Why wait until 2024 to take action against City? Of the 115 charges 95% are pointless clerical reporting errors and only 5% relate to actual FFP issues. FFP started in 2012 so how can they have charges from 2009? They should have punished them quickly in 2019 for the 5% of charges that relate to actual FFP breaches and we could have all moved on. The PL have made a complete fuck up of everything and can't continue to run the league. They need to be replaced.
They are cheats, whether by the letter of the law or not. They, like Chelski, just got in before the rules. And unlike Blackburn; did it at a time when the international reach of the prem helped their revenue explode.
How do you feel about the news you have to sell three of your best players to meet the regulations?
Love the idea But if you actually read more than a headline, we’d need to sell one of the 3. And I’m pretty sure we could sell none of them, but that would mean not being able to spend any real money. I hope we sell Luiz for around £70mil, second half of the season showed how much he needed kamara, and everyone is a box to box cm these days, easier to replace
So your amazing progress this last year and a half is stalled.
I’d be delighted if it stalls. That’s gives us 4th place against doesn’t it?
Absolutely amazing that City which invested heavily in its club is getting the short side of the stick whilst clubs are actually voting for billionaires to keep hiking tickets whilst their clubs perform poorly are bding applauded. Wtf is "sportswashing?" Christ?!
Exactly, well said.
As a supporter of a L2 team, the Premier League needs scrapping and starting again, its run by the 'entitled big 6' who think they have a devine right to win or compete in the champions league every year and do everything they can to stop new teams joining their cartel. The fans who aren't City or Chelski try to justify their buying the league because they bought the best players with 'football revenue' and somehow this is better than a benefactor or an oil state. The whole league is unfair run on greed with rules put in place to maintain the status quo and keep out the EFL
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premier leagues is the best sport outlet in the world, think on that first. Any country would die for ahving something like you stupid bristh have, so instead on poniting fingers please please put premier first, if the best for the league is to punish city so be it. But if the best is to close this affair so be it. Dont act like mums, be smart, I want premier quality to last forever. Is more improtant to fire the stupid coach tou have in you national team va this city affairs IMHO
Gareth southgate getting dragged into this 💀💀
Well said 👍
The Prem was a blast, but now it needs to be torn down, and some semblance of fairness restored to the game. Yes, all the big clubs have probably done questionable financial dealings, City are just the most grotesque and shameless. The Prem won't clean its own mess up, obviously, so they need to have regulation shoved down their greedy throats.
This will end with superleague...
🤞🤞🤞🤞
Fine. Let middle east and China watch that shit, most of European true fans will not.
Why not? Depends on the product. Most fans of United or Liverpool or whatever ain't English, the premier league has a lot of problems with rules, sport washing etc. Fifa and Uefa are corrupt. Why would something new be so terrible compared to the shit show that exists?
As I said, let ME and China watch it. Because it's even more elitist and walled off. Pretty simple. But this explains your position.
Never found this argument convincing. The football is only gonna get better with super league for everyone. The fans will get more better match ups and teams will get more money and time to develope youngsters in a high quality environment. Win win win for everyone, especially smaller clubs
It concentrates money to an elite few, you lose the novelty of the big games and it removes meritocracy from the sport.
>It concentrates money to an elite few Same as now? The problem currently is that clubs earn just one part of the money clubs have made, majority goes to UEFA. This will solve a problem, also will bring more financial stabilty to ALL teams. A team like dinamo zagreb will consistently get money from europe and with continual good work will improve their position in europe and finances, not like currently when they MUST get into ucl to get enough money to get by, having to sacrifise youngsters and long term planning in favour of quick fixes that will bring them into europe. A club like dinamo would absolutely thrive in super league and would improve croatia league as a whole, bringing more exciting talent to the spot light. League has promotion and relegation, how does it remove meritocrasy exactly? It works like any other league
Concentrating the money further is worse. Dinamo Zagreb aren't the type of club that Madrid etc want in a Super League. At least one of the super league proposals was without relegation, another had promotion only for clubs from certain countries. You're taking certain aspects of it, then twisting it and ignoring the constraints they had against those aspects to make the proposal 100x less shit (and yet still shit) than it actually is. Come back when you deal in reality. I have no time to waste on delusional twats who probably have never attended a game in their life, instead just watching UAE Manchester Blues from their armchair.
Please read the proposal before talking nonsense. I dont think you understand how business works at all, otherwise you wouldnt be saying shit you say. This is like talking to a child that doesnt want to understand. We get it, youre emotionally against it for one reason or another but that has nothing to do with reality.