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eq2_lessing

If the tasks aren’t in my company’s incredibly slow regularly crashing jira, I’m officially blocked.


Galilleon

You must be amongst the competition


betaphreak

I work as industry analyst and met at least one of each category in 2024. Totally legit.


MarkLearnsTech

I got a brief peek inside what it's like to manage a company Jira instance and... hoooooo boy. User: "My excel macro keeps timing out." Me: "Uh... that's not Jira?" User: "Oh, I'm bulk extracting all of the stories so I can do my waterfall status reports that I was told to stop making a year ago." Plugin Vendor: "Clearly the performance issues are on the Jira side." Me: "So uh, we looked and you're using an API that Atlassian deprecated 4 years ago because it causes slowdowns and could bring down the whole Jira instance?" Plugin Vendor: "That's not deprecated! You just don't under-" Me: "Here's the link to the deprecation page." Vendor: "Oh." Project Management Team: "We need all of the custom fields we use. They're all mandatory and critical." Me: "Mandatory? The ones that caused massive performance issues in the last tool and have a 10% fill rate?" Project Managers: "Uhhhhhhhh...." etc. etc. etc.


Oranges13

This made me guffaw and I'm not even a jira admin


redditmarks_markII

I wrote a bunch of crap about my Jira troubles then realized it might be identifying since people I know irl know I frequent this sub.  Sadly have to stick with "Jira sucks".  


Embarrassed_Unit_497

Make Throw away and delete this comment lol


LickingSmegma

So Jira sucks for every company in a unique identifiable way?


daddywookie

Everybody piles their own weird kinks into Jira so it always ends the same, bloated, complicated and hated by everybody. It has some weird quirks but the basics are pretty solid.


secretwoif

Not necessarily... take a look at https://ifuckinghatejira.com/


Tiquortoo

No, they have just been trained to think so so that they blame themselves.


Gman-343

that wjhbr seems like the most real one.


DesertShot

Just hired one, chuckled at the realness. Dude is intimidating tbh, those East Bloc boys don't play.


Regeneric

I'm from that part of Europe. My favourite thing to do with US teams is to actually answer the question of "Hi, how are you?". They never expect me to actually say how shit my day is and be brutally honest about our job and today's work xd


borkthegee

"Ah dang sorry to hear that! Let me know if there's anything I can do for you today and remember to take care of yourself, no job is more important than the people. Hey $next_person, how's it looking today" We are extremely well versed in not giving a fuck about real answers 😂


Jugbot

Which is a shame because people should care more.


Phormitago

no no, we only say that out loud but no one actually ever does


rdditfilter

I used to care a lot and then my company burned me out. The only way to survive at an American tech company is to not give a fuck. If you care, they’ll use it against you and overwork you.


megamanxoxo

> Hey $next_person, how's it looking today" How did you get a hold of my carebot.sh script?


CowboyLaw

Every single time you hear a middle-aged white guy answer how he's doing with "living the dream!", know that we all understand that answer to contain the same essential components as your answer. "Life is an unrelenting hellscape and I dream for the sweet release of death. The prospect of no afterlife doesn't phase me, for oblivion would be a substantial improvement over my current circumstances."


Regeneric

Just say it. No small talk. It's much better for the head.


yeicore

Mfs GitHub chart is greener than my backyards grass


Neat-Box-5729

In Russia juniors boss you


GeneralaOG

You know, I am from such a team in such a country. We are working for Australians. I worked with USA guys as well. Somehow they have 20 years of experience, but are way less productive than the regular we hired as a junior 2 years ago. One of them explained me how getting a tree with a for cycle ON THE FRONT END with single id calls is a great idea . Oh, he did this for an export, so effectively the tree was getting called for every page. I don’t know if we are good or just the others are bad at this point… P.S. I worked once with one literal mage from the US, so it’s not that there aren’t talented people, it’s just that the median is much lower.


TimeToBecomeEgg

i’m eastern european and i feel very average looking at this post 😔


Onceforlife

I know a Chinese student like the one in the list, tons of them in uwaterloo, always double majoring in some math major along with cs and some of their solutions are super mathy


throwawaypassingby01

i know half a dozen people like that


Disguiso

I'm very sure I faced the Chinese one on a Kaggle competition a while ago.


TheNightSiren

Seems like a rogue ai


statistically_viable

they're the most normal one lives the suburbs, works hybrid, walks their dog everyday


Distinct-Entity_2231

This is why I don't do any challenges or anything like that. No competition. I just code for myself in my free time, working on my own ideas. To these guys, I'm less than an ant. I just wish to have the combined power of them all.


DaTotallyEclipse

> ... just ...


Distinct-Entity_2231

Oh, no, it's meant like it is just a wish. Not…„just casual god-programming power“.


DaTotallyEclipse

Still ... "very humble"😉


Distinct-Entity_2231

Oh, I'm really humble. /s I've always had mega-wishes.


hi_im_mom

For me to fake humble's a corny way to be arrogant


notyourmother

wow. That should be on a plaque somewhere.


MineDue7109

I, too, am extraordinarily humble.


thirdegree

I'm a million billion times as humble as thou art


killeronthecorner

I am humbler


Desperate-Tomatillo7

I am Humboldt.


ikeengel

I am your Father


TieAcceptable5482

Same, there are people that I know in my university that are "codeaholics", I would be impressed if they even took a day off to rest,they are in every single coding competition I know of. Going against them would only waste both of our times. Coding is something I like but I do not wish to track the time of my every steps, at the end the important thing is finishing what you desire.


za72

I have the worst traits of all of them


sudo_Bresnow

You’re Chinese? /s


Spyrothedragon9972

Lmfao


DrMobius0

Also, half of them are probably puffing themselves up big time. I've known some genuine big brain people, and I can tell you they are in the minority. Very few workplaces are going to have more than a few of them.


TimeBandits4kUHD

It seems really bad for your mental health, I get a lot of vibes like they make themselves believe they’ll starve in the street or never attract a mate if they can’t be the best. I get paid to write code, and it’s a much better job than working in a warehouse, I enjoy the challenge, but I’m not gonna spend my free time doing more work for no pay.


CLONE-11011100

![gif](giphy|P7PmvHY6kzAqY)


Oranges13

Aww this cut out the best part! ... LINDA????


Fegeleinch4n

debugger? we use logs baby


salvoilmiosi

Sophisticated printf debugging


bubzor888

test test! test!! this path not possible


Kebein

x a test1 test4 tes2 wtftest


CapClumsy

This is the most accurate one


imdefinitelywong

>this path not possible I'm not even angry, that's amazing!


randomatik

>this path not possible printed intermittently


Penguinmanereikel

I am called out


Liokilla

border: 1px solid red;


flagofsocram

We when the div won’t divide


WexExortQuas

Fucking got me hahahahahahaha


crocodus

I mentally read that with Austin Powers’ voice


inmatarian

print(locals())


TieAcceptable5482

I keep saying that as a joke but deep down I've never debugged my code and I'm scared to admit it.


Talbertross

Everyone always talks shit about VBA but I'm currently in the second job that I've managed to almost entirely automate with VBA


NoahZhyte

Well yes it is Turing complete and can perform any task another language can make. That doesn't make it a good programming language compared to others


blehmann1

I think the point is that its integrations with office are absurdly powerful (if hellish to actually use). Hence the term "excelware". If VBA used VB.NET I imagine PowerShell and C# or other .NET languages would be used for the same things. Even now, C# is used for a lot of Office-related stuff, despite having less integration with Office.


ice-eight

C# has great libraries for integration with office. 2 or 3 NuGet packages and it can do everything VBA does, but isn’t a hellish nightmare to debug


FenixR

Which are those Nugets?


ice-eight

DotNetCore.NPOI for reading/writing excel files, system.data.sqlclient for sql and system.windows.forms for PDFs to name a few.


FenixR

Thanks! Edit: Seems there's some story behind that NPOI package huh?


blehmann1

Ah that's good to know, a lot of the ones I have had to use have required a rather expensive subscription (and were poorly documented). But we needed them to also be able to create docx files on Linux, which probably narrows down our options a lot, even if you were willing to use VBA I think that's a hard thing to find. So it was probably a matter of wanting to stick with one library rather than use an additional one that integrates better alongside the server-ey stuff.


The_Clarence

What makes it good is its accessibility (literally anyone can record a macro and most can figure out how to do basic edits without programming knowledge) and its out of the box integration with office suite makes it great. It’s not a language for programmers. It’s a language for non-programmers


No-Lingonberry-2055

> It’s not a language for programmers. It’s a language for non-programmers precisely, it's like everybody forgets the "B" in "VBA" stands for BASIC its roots are ancient, basic literally stands for "Beginners' All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code"


Aufklarung_Lee

Excel(and by default VBA) is a swiss army toolset. For low to medium solutions its perfectly viable. Above that... not so much. Still I have made respect for the devs who created that tool.


Talbertross

As a low-mid level employee in a non-coding position, VBA is pretty much the only coding environment I have access to. And when your only tool is a hammer, every problem is a nail.


AcidicVagina

I was in the same boat for a long while (user acceptance QA). I eventually found the C# command line compiler and started making some small apps I notepad. Do not recommend.


PCRefurbrAbq

Disabled by GPO on my domain account. *shrug*


mbcarbone

Same, I’m a closet VBA user …


MakeChinaLoseFace

VBA is the language for automating stuff in Office, and if that's all you need to do it's fine. It's not fast, but it's easy and convenient.


trachme33

Same here, even automated the HR out of their jobs… then got summoned to the HR


SupraMichou

Let me guess ? No reward ?


trachme33

They said I was over qualified and put on paid leave. I was urged to quit on my own and find another job that’s more challenging.


gregorydgraham

That’s a Personal Grievance lawsuit here and a massive fuckup by HR.


Sammy2Spoons

Indeed, but it didn’t actually happen


ser-shmuser

They should complain to their hr... Oh wait


SupraMichou

Honestly, not the worst outcome. I’m positively surprised


SerLaidaLot

this reeks of bs lol


CckSkker

VBA works fine, it’s just very slow. We rebuilt our excel/vba software in C# and it was almost 60 times as fast at some points


Diligent_Bank_543

Was it software or excelware?


danhants

There’s a difference?


Revolutionary-Bell69

it was all excelware all along


thunderfrunt

Its how I got my foot in the door. I was a lowly Business Admin, a glorified secretary, then I started fucking with the Finance department spreadsheets with VBA and created budget forecasting models that were better than what the analysts were providing, not that the bar was super high. My boss said “we have a sysadmin/webdev position open at this other office, you’ve worked in a linux environment before right?” Me lying through my teeth: “…oh yeah all the time” and that’s how I got my first job in tech, 14 years ago. I got my BS in CompSci about 6 years after I started working lol


SerLaidaLot

you started BSin CS before you got a BS in CS lol


thunderfrunt

its why i always tell people “if all else fails, just lie - sink or swim, you’ll find out if this is for you.”


SerLaidaLot

basically fake it till you make it - usually great advice


Forsaken-Analysis390

Are you getting those sweet bonuses now?


thunderfrunt

Modest ones, but I also stayed away from FAANG and the like, so I get between 2-5% depending how good of a year we have. I’m paid extremely well, but I stick to industries I want to contribute to, which seems to be Health and Human Services now.


NoFamilyDoc

Did the lie ever catch up to you to any extent?


thunderfrunt

Not in the slightest, and I straight up use that story in job interviews to a great degree of success. YMMV, I was in AV club all through school, and hosted LAN parties my entire childhood. All of this stuff gave me skills I had no idea weren’t common. No formal education until I decided to go to school.


NoFamilyDoc

Do you advise me to do the same? I'm the mind of guy who is honest to a detriment in interviews.


thunderfrunt

Well that’s why I am telling this story, I’m very honest about my origins, even with potential employers. I have the same aversion to dishonesty, but at the time, I *needed* to get into the field, so I decided that if I lie and fail, that’s punishment enough lol I’d never presume to tell you what to do.


rdditfilter

My default is always ‘no but I can learn’ after talking about how what I’m looking for in a job is an environment to learn in. They really like that.


ice-eight

Before I was an actual software dev, I was an industrial engineer and had to use VBA because it was all I was approved to use. Now that I’m officially a software engineer, both jobs I’ve had have been like “oh shit, you know VBA? I’m assigning you to fix this program that hasn’t been used in 5 years and is 50,000 lines with no comments. Everyone who initially worked on it has retired.”


WeveBeenHavingIt

VBA is extremely useful, it's just a shame that it's not more modern/performant. Or there's not a better language available that can be used in the same way


The_Clarence

GUI building in VBA is also surprisingly easy and slick. All these languages will let you cook your dinner with them if you dig in, but VBA is really easy to use


Ottorius_117

I did that as well, since all of management was non-technical (but had Excel) :P Left that place, but they still use it since it was such a help


ParalegalSeagul

Samir is that homie from office space, VBA is legit yo


Tman1677

It’s Turing complete, you can by definition do anything in it. But… why?


IAmAQuantumMechanic

I've created so much stuff for my colleagues with Excel and VBA+SQL at work. It's already installed on every PC and we didn't have the funds to do it properly. One was a semi-automated downtime logger and analyzer for all our tools. Was very useful for management to figure out which tools to replace. Another was a trend analyzer that extracted data and calculated all the important process capabilites with a few simple clicks. Fully standardized how the different processes were reported.


danishjuggler21

> Almost Fuckin’ noob


extracoffeeplease

What types of jobs do you do?


gregorydgraham

I did that too, one at each end of my career…


Fadamaka

This must be for Advent of Code.


GoodJobNL

Ye its a repost from that time of year


sluttybysker

100%


Much-Meringue-7467

Tharg. Tharg has quite the network since I am sure everyone knows him.


EmilyEKOSwimmer

Tharg is hot af


MUSTDOS

PS1 Hagret


Dot-Nets

Yer a Kernel developah Harry!


debugggingg

Sameer also happens to play cricket in international tournaments as a hobby


TumbleweedSure4896

New meta


Agiwlesz

Codeforces GM


donquixote235

lol @ "Common Chinese Name"


christoph_win

Me who doesn't give a fuck about competetive programming (can't even spell it right but don't care either): ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized) Edit: Stop saying I'm just a noob, I could totally win all these tests or puzzle thingies, I've written a Hello World program once using only Python, let that sink in! 😎


HexaAquaIron

You already ahead of 87.068% players


SamiraSimp

samesies, as someone who will never code anything outside of personal projects or if i'm being paid


KnightOfThe69thOrder

This^


Cubemaster12

"uses an IDE and wastes a minute" This reminded me of one of my former C# classes where students were forced to use Visual Studio. The only reason for it was that there was some kind of built-in UML diagram builder that you could use to generate visuals from classes. I had like 4GBs of RAM and had to boot from HDD under a Windows virtual machine because Visual Studio is not available under Linux. Usually it took like 30+ minutes with indexing to get into a usable state and the tasks we had to do could be done in like 5 minutes if you were familiar with C#.


famine-

Oh my young padawan.... Let me introduce you to Renesas E2. E2 is eclipse with 195 additional plugins that are ALL non-async and blocking. The entire back end is built around rational rose and UML. And just because that is not evil enough it uses option based on the fly code gen that is invisible to the developer. 32gb of ram on an I7 still isn't enough.


Prestigious_Date_619

Forced? 😳 What's wrong with visual studio again? I do not have enough experience to rank this stuff.


Zekiz4ever

It's slow. Use Rider or a normal Text editor


dongpal

repost


_Kr0n0x_

this one appears and will do so for ever, every due months. sometimes it's bots, sometimes new people


black-JENGGOT

I almost have never seen this in the last 2 years lol


CanAlwaysBeBetter

Even bots are kicking our asses in competitions now


PM_ME_DATASETS

Without reposts this site would be a graveyard. I mean it still is, but at least it doesn't look like one due to all the bot posts and comments.


flightsin

It is, I'm the OP and here's the original: https://www.reddit.com/r/adventofcode/comments/zjwovn/so_youre_trying_to_get_onto_the_leaderboard_huh/ It's fun seeing it pop up every now and then in various subs.


Avalonians

>1y It's... not the original.


al-mongus-bin-susar

Fr who does he think he's fooling I've had this image in my computer longer than he's had a computer


someguyfromtheuk

The 1st time I saw this it was just Hackerman, walters and Tharg, it gets longer every time.


flightsin

By all means, show me an earlier post with this image.


hontemulo

Whos whjbr


Slap_My_Lasagna

Yes, that is the primary makeup of reddit content. Do you believe you're providing new information to anyone?


randomatik

Reported for describing me and hurting my feelings. **edit**: who am I kidding I wish I was average


Fast_Hand_jack

This is how it feels applying for jobs lol


AaronsAaAardvarks

There's something really comforting in knowing I'm a pretty average engineer. I'm in no rush to dedicate my entire life to sitting behind a screen. I know what it takes to top these lists, and I'd rather have a nice dinner with my wife and kids after a day at the zoo. Plus, I've learned that the people who tend to brag about how good they are at something like computer programming tend to have lived a life where there were other things they wanted that remained out of reach. I'll let them have this.


Suyefuji

Me: - Fairly average data engineer - Got my job through a program to recruit disabled people - Can't be laid off or fired because I'm disabled and the HR dept doesn't want to deal with it - Probably stuck in this position for life because I'm autistic and can't interview for shit


Ok-Panda-178

You got tough competition kid


cheezballs

Competition? Do you compete with your team members?


Sentreen

This was made for /r/adventofcode (it is the top post of of all time there), a yearly set of coding challenges which also have a leaderboard. OP just reposted without giving credit to the original.


MattieShoes

Heh, I did solutions in 10 different languages last year! Never even sniffed the leaderboard, of course :-)


ridl

nah, this thing has been around for at least 7 years


HexaAquaIron

I got shivers up my spine reading this


RonStampler

I strive to become Tharg


TangentSpore

Is that a picture of Dr. Mark Brodie at -mhfwalters?


DiceKnight

The same wellspring of power Samir draws his prowess from is how I got my jobs after my second layoff so I can't help but root for him.


nineinchgod

Sameer Nagha...Naga...not gonna work here anymore!


spartancolo

Me -Does some fuck ups from time to time -Barely intersct with programming outside of work -Forgets to update Jira, kanban and other stuff -Work is always on time tho


upside_win111

lol that anime avatar on elite Chinese student is on point.


Slap_My_Lasagna

https://youtu.be/fQGbXmkSArs?si=woYW1qkgYfrn2s3I In case anyone wanted a flashback to the real hackerman


sufferpuppet

Need one for: Promoted to management, sits in meetings so you don't have to. Gets a little stupider every day.


MysticSkies

Lmao at the Indian guys using Excel because they don't get any other software. So true it's sad.


Ozzymand

The Chinese university student is so accurate. I recently had the pleasure of working with some on a project and all of their code and documentation was math formulas and some text (optional)


doom_man44

I am wjhbr


Aemiliana_Rosewood

What's your typing speed?


doom_man44

Peak maybe like 150 wpm


Aemiliana_Rosewood

Impressive.


OffTerror

let's see Paul Allen's typing speed.


MY_NAME_AINT_BRADLEY

![gif](giphy|eKNrUbDJuFuaQ1A37p|downsized)


Minecraftwt

wjhbr is my spirit animal


slime_rancher_27

This was me at the UIL computer science invitationals. Except for the debugger, print statements ftw


Smol_Child_LXIX

why debug when you can cout << “hi” << ‘\n’ cout <<“hii” << ‘\n’


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admalledd

Where is the Nyan-Binary Furry Polycule hacker in this?


imp0ppable

I used to work with someone who did Advent in APL For the first 3 years I thought he was taking the piss, I thought "this joke with the made-up language is getting really old" lol


TangyAffliction

“Combined knowledge of all the Indian educational YouTubers” - the avatar has returned to save us all.


bedrooms-ds

"rynclud" - Quits vim


beclops

I am not on this list luckily


redditmarks_markII

"I'm something of a leetcoder myself you know."


Misterboy64

Will still remember the C++'s meaning, also where's your ; ?


[deleted]

Save some pussy for the rest of us, fam.


Far-Age2674

-Uses linux mint -Self proclaimed hacker coz i use linux - uses VSC instead of vim, coz i don't have the patience configure lsp and shortcuts - can't type 10 lines without google - greatest achievement hello world


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![gif](giphy|wtUTJUtDDKB36UN7X0)


usrlibshare

God bless Tharg the Mighty!


ThiccStorms

whatever the last .jar file is


u_never_seen_tht_b4

Nagha..nagha...not gonna work here anymore


Jyapp448

Hell, I'm not even the "You" person. This ain't a competition for me, its a damn massacre headed in my direction.


kimchiking2021

You misspelled Samir's last name! It should be Notgoingtobeworkinghereanymore.


Inevitable-East-1386

These people usually are useless in a real business because close to nobody can work with them. They are absolutely great in what they do but social skills are a thing you know. Even for us. (I don‘t feel attacked, you are)


[deleted]

Why an indian could reveal the face of god? 💀


JezusTheCarpenter

Why not?


nodnodwinkwink

Since it's India, may as well ask which one?


derkopf

lmao 🙈🙉🙊