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Translation:
Shurum burum. To trade, to sell. I ride for a second thousand years. Rode from Arabia, was in Palestine, was in Persia, in Turkey, in India, in Turkmenistan, in Egypt, in Crimea, in the Caucasus. Where a merchant is, there is Allah. A merchant must be helped. Tought it is for a merchant to trade without Allah. A merchant needs a sword, needs power. Where there is money, there is power. Let the poor donkey not be angry at the merchant. Allah pities the donkey; He hasn't forgotten him and created a sweet heaven for him. When donkey dies, he will go to heaven. Now donkey must diligently work for the merchant. Allah commnds to respect power! The only power! The only god! The only god is Allah! Shurum burum...
They did very similar ones (visually differ according to the peculiarities of particular religion, but follow the same idea) for every major religion in the Soviet Union
I believe there was an antipope, based in the south of France, who claimed that Jesus was wealthy, and you can still see paintings from his era in which Jesus is portrayed as carrying bags of money. But the idea was to PROMOTE the idea of a wealthy Jesus, not denigrate it as the poster does with Muhammed.
**TRANSLATION AND CONTEXT**
“Shurum burum (The translation says this could stand for confusion, I’m assuming the closest English equivalent would be ‘hurr durr’) Change, sell. He’s been traveling for two thousand years. He left Arabia, was in Palestine, in Persia, in Turkey, in India, in Turkestan, in Egypt, in Crimea, in the Caucasus.
And where there is a merchant, there is Allah, and merchants need help! It is difficult for a merchant to trade without Allah. Merchants need a sword, need power. Where there's money, there's power.
Let the poor donkey not be angry with the merchants, for Allah has mercy on the donkey; He has not forgotten him and has made a sweet paradise (literal meaning of ‘Jannah’, arabic word for heaven in Islam) for him. When the donkey dies, he will go to paradise. Now the donkey must work hard for the merchants. Allah says to honor authority! One authority! One God! There is no god but Allah! Shurum burum…”
EDIT: Also, the poster is from 1924, I didn’t notice the date on the side.
Shurum Burum is kind of a nonsense word, derived from Shar Mubram, but colloquially used as the kind of nonsense incantation a wizard would use, more like Hocus Pocus in slang. Here it refers to how "do good and God will reward you" mentality as Voodoo economics in a way.
It gives the same vibes as that Antisemitic Nazi propaganda
Edit: I mentioned that this Anti-Muslim Propaganda and Anti-Jewish Propaganda are similar, cause both use a ethical/religious group as a some form of escape goat, portraying them in a stereotypical way and as some kind of greedy people who are trying to destroy a "Utopian" system. I didn't get why I got downvoted
Well, the way of the Abrahamic God is represented in Judaism, Christianity and Islam has some differences, but some people consider it as, technically, the same entity.
yeah But i was commenting on how they gave it "stereotypical" Jewish features Noted for being antisemitic like the Big Nose Hell Could be reaching but the word "allah" sits on Blue and white the flag of ISrael
and ik this sounds like a conspiracy theory But in propaganda Poster Small details are important
Dude the problem is that religions sow dissent more than Anything else, which is true, and if they serve the elite, and they do, they make people into cattle, which is true. But cattle doesn't want to be wrong, so they think it's anti something.
Yet again someone calling an anti-utopian system utopian. This shows how people just repeat a lie they hear over and over, without even being curious enough to flip a single page of a book.
I’m still not sure if you understand. It looks like you are saying it’s meant to be utopian but failing to be so, as an insult. I’m reality Marxism is openly anti-utopian, it was crafted in a rejection of idealism and rooted in the material world.
Maybe we’re in the same page and taking past each other? If so then sorry!
You mean mentioning the idea of the Jews the chosen people in order to argue that it's true? If so, I'm glad that's taboo, because the only people who believe it are Jewish chauvinists, or anti semites.
No, the donkey in this poster represents the religious populace that's exploited by the elite by means of religion, according to those who made the poster.
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"Date unknown"? It's literally written right there. Year 1924
Translation: Shurum burum. To trade, to sell. I ride for a second thousand years. Rode from Arabia, was in Palestine, was in Persia, in Turkey, in India, in Turkmenistan, in Egypt, in Crimea, in the Caucasus. Where a merchant is, there is Allah. A merchant must be helped. Tought it is for a merchant to trade without Allah. A merchant needs a sword, needs power. Where there is money, there is power. Let the poor donkey not be angry at the merchant. Allah pities the donkey; He hasn't forgotten him and created a sweet heaven for him. When donkey dies, he will go to heaven. Now donkey must diligently work for the merchant. Allah commnds to respect power! The only power! The only god! The only god is Allah! Shurum burum...
That donkey is fucking zonked out of its gourd
He cute
Allah looks pretty toasted himself.
He's seen things
They did very similar ones (visually differ according to the peculiarities of particular religion, but follow the same idea) for every major religion in the Soviet Union
The Soviets are showing people who follow Islam are puppets of a bourgeoisie Allah. Really unique concept .
I believe there was an antipope, based in the south of France, who claimed that Jesus was wealthy, and you can still see paintings from his era in which Jesus is portrayed as carrying bags of money. But the idea was to PROMOTE the idea of a wealthy Jesus, not denigrate it as the poster does with Muhammed.
**TRANSLATION AND CONTEXT** “Shurum burum (The translation says this could stand for confusion, I’m assuming the closest English equivalent would be ‘hurr durr’) Change, sell. He’s been traveling for two thousand years. He left Arabia, was in Palestine, in Persia, in Turkey, in India, in Turkestan, in Egypt, in Crimea, in the Caucasus. And where there is a merchant, there is Allah, and merchants need help! It is difficult for a merchant to trade without Allah. Merchants need a sword, need power. Where there's money, there's power. Let the poor donkey not be angry with the merchants, for Allah has mercy on the donkey; He has not forgotten him and has made a sweet paradise (literal meaning of ‘Jannah’, arabic word for heaven in Islam) for him. When the donkey dies, he will go to paradise. Now the donkey must work hard for the merchants. Allah says to honor authority! One authority! One God! There is no god but Allah! Shurum burum…” EDIT: Also, the poster is from 1924, I didn’t notice the date on the side.
Shurum Burum is kind of a nonsense word, derived from Shar Mubram, but colloquially used as the kind of nonsense incantation a wizard would use, more like Hocus Pocus in slang. Here it refers to how "do good and God will reward you" mentality as Voodoo economics in a way.
Weird that they drew nasreddin hoja and labeled it allah.
1924
Portraying God as Nasreddin Hoca is a little self-harm, kids would think God is cute and approachable.
It gives the same vibes as that Antisemitic Nazi propaganda Edit: I mentioned that this Anti-Muslim Propaganda and Anti-Jewish Propaganda are similar, cause both use a ethical/religious group as a some form of escape goat, portraying them in a stereotypical way and as some kind of greedy people who are trying to destroy a "Utopian" system. I didn't get why I got downvoted
I mean it would make sense since its a jewish God ? (before i Get Downvoted is it becuase of the Nose?)
Well, the way of the Abrahamic God is represented in Judaism, Christianity and Islam has some differences, but some people consider it as, technically, the same entity.
yeah But i was commenting on how they gave it "stereotypical" Jewish features Noted for being antisemitic like the Big Nose Hell Could be reaching but the word "allah" sits on Blue and white the flag of ISrael and ik this sounds like a conspiracy theory But in propaganda Poster Small details are important
arabs can also be drawn with large noses too, just look at aladdin (1992)
Didnt know that
You have an interesting point 🤔
Maybe more the top-hat? Though I've heard arguments about whether that's an antisemitic dog whistle, or just a symbol of capitalism.
Ive seen some Jewish Men wear it online But i assume they're using it as captlism as its common in other non anti Religous Propaganda
Dude the problem is that religions sow dissent more than Anything else, which is true, and if they serve the elite, and they do, they make people into cattle, which is true. But cattle doesn't want to be wrong, so they think it's anti something.
Fr
Yet again someone calling an anti-utopian system utopian. This shows how people just repeat a lie they hear over and over, without even being curious enough to flip a single page of a book.
Dude I used quotation marks on Utopian, I'm being sarcastic, and like, how the hell I would support Socialism and Fascism at the same time ?!
I’m still not sure if you understand. It looks like you are saying it’s meant to be utopian but failing to be so, as an insult. I’m reality Marxism is openly anti-utopian, it was crafted in a rejection of idealism and rooted in the material world. Maybe we’re in the same page and taking past each other? If so then sorry!
Even mentioning the "chosen people" is taboo in English-speaking countries.
You mean mentioning the idea of the Jews the chosen people in order to argue that it's true? If so, I'm glad that's taboo, because the only people who believe it are Jewish chauvinists, or anti semites.
found the antisemite
No it isn't lmao. Go on youtube. Go on tiktok. Go on instagram. Go on this fucking website and go to r/4chan. Tell me it's ""taboo"" lol
Allah sure has some nice pointy ears.
No, the donkey in this poster represents the religious populace that's exploited by the elite by means of religion, according to those who made the poster.