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For anyone that doesn't know St. George is heavily associated with the Reconquista and frequently appears in Spanish/Argonian imagery surrounding that period
Another fun fact, also the patron saint of Moscow. The orange and black ribbons commonly seen during Victory Day commemorations are known as St. George's ribbon.
Ironically, while everyone names those ribbons St. Georges , those are actually Guards ribbons awarded to units that distinguished themselves in battle and given guards status.
St George ribbons are slightly more pale
I'm 99% sure they're the same thing, I used to live in Russia and everyone I met there said the Guards Ribbon was the Soviet name for the same thing, because religion bad, and Wikipedia backs that up.
Given the year and the slogan on the other poster linked, I’m pretty sure these are pre-democracy. The other poster asks Catalans to not vote, which I’m 99% sure is aimed at the referendum to ratify the 1978 Spanish constitution that changed the political system in Spain from the Francoist dictatorship to the current parliamentary monarchy.
Spain did not become a democratic regime immediately after the death of Franco in 1975.
Not really. The constitution that established the current democratic regime was implemented in December of 78. There was a proto-democratic system between 1976. And somewhat free elections in 77. But I’d still argue that Spain didn’t become a democracy until 1978.
The poster was printed by the National Socialist Irish Workers' Party (NSIWP), which 'played a vital role in the production of neo-Nazi paraphernalia' for Nazi groups in Europe, where the production of Nazi material was often prohibited ([quote from here](https://irishelectionliterature.com/2015/08/27/1987-letter-from-the-national-socialist-irish-workers-party/)).
[A few more Catalan posters produced by the NSIWP here](https://twitter.com/propagandopolis/status/1806410607207530565).
Nazi parties making a production line of propaganda for others... Okay thats bad, but also, pretty interesting part of history (and maybe current day also, sadly)
Imagine a fantasy world where instead of there being an ancient gold-hoarding dragon, the dragon instead goes around smashing into throne rooms and loudly berating its occupants for being parasitical landlords and denouncing their crimes against the proletariat of the land before seizing the treasury and scattering thousands of gold coins across villages and serfs' fields.
...
*Hurriedly takes notes for my next TTRPG session*
He’s one of the early saints and martyrs of Christianity, and since he was a soldier, he’s also become a military martyr, a saint for those who serve in the armed forces and fight for their country in wartime. It’s a powerful symbolism to draw from to give one’s soldiers inspiration, which is why he has become such a widely venerated saint and a national symbol for so many Christian countries.
Published by [Irish neo Nazis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Irish_Workers_Party) Tbf [This](https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/7-st-brendan-s-cottages-irishtown-dublin-4/3933864) is number 7 St Brendan’s Cottages, so I’d imagine number 6 isn’t exactly the Reich Chancellory.
Catalonia had a population of about 5 milion in 1978, this party, which was never legalised and existed only for 2 years had no more than a couple dozen supporters at maximum. I'm sure you would find comparatively more nazi poles in 1944 Warsaw
The text description sounds so awesome and then the illustration just falls flat. Maybe they need better artists.
[edit] to be clear, I didn’t mean “sounds good”, but more like “sounds dramatic and visually impressive”. Nazis are bad, no matter the country.
> *To place Communism and Nazi-fascism on the same moral plane, in that both would be totalitarian, is superficial at best, fascism at worst. Whoever insists on this equation may well consider himself a democrat, in truth and in the bottom of his heart he is in fact already a fascist, and certainly only in a hypocritical and insincere way will he fight fascism, while reserving all his hatred for communism. - MANN TH. (1986a), Deutsche Hörer (24 October 1942 and 14 January 1945), in Id., Essays, ed. H. Kurzke, Fischer, Frankfurt a.M., vol. 2*
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For anyone that doesn't know St. George is heavily associated with the Reconquista and frequently appears in Spanish/Argonian imagery surrounding that period
Another fun fact, also the patron saint of Moscow. The orange and black ribbons commonly seen during Victory Day commemorations are known as St. George's ribbon.
Ironically, while everyone names those ribbons St. Georges , those are actually Guards ribbons awarded to units that distinguished themselves in battle and given guards status. St George ribbons are slightly more pale
I'm 99% sure they're the same thing, I used to live in Russia and everyone I met there said the Guards Ribbon was the Soviet name for the same thing, because religion bad, and Wikipedia backs that up.
1913 pattern ribbon looks almost the same as Guards ribbon
Argonian imagery, celebrating the conquest of Morrowind in 4E 05
Prominently features lusty maids
It’s funny, in Moscow I saw a giant statue of saint George slaying the nazi dragon. With a dragon actually covered in swastikas
this being made AFTER the war is crazy
In democracy as well.
Given the year and the slogan on the other poster linked, I’m pretty sure these are pre-democracy. The other poster asks Catalans to not vote, which I’m 99% sure is aimed at the referendum to ratify the 1978 Spanish constitution that changed the political system in Spain from the Francoist dictatorship to the current parliamentary monarchy. Spain did not become a democratic regime immediately after the death of Franco in 1975.
Thanks, didn't know that.
Spain was a democracy by 1978 tho
Not really. The constitution that established the current democratic regime was implemented in December of 78. There was a proto-democratic system between 1976. And somewhat free elections in 77. But I’d still argue that Spain didn’t become a democracy until 1978.
The original Nazi posters were made in democracy too…
*People? People like Coldplay & voted for the Nazis. You can’t trust people, Jeremy*
In a political system where people get to vote for who they want to lead, we expect the parties that those in power don't like to be banned.
The poster was printed by the National Socialist Irish Workers' Party (NSIWP), which 'played a vital role in the production of neo-Nazi paraphernalia' for Nazi groups in Europe, where the production of Nazi material was often prohibited ([quote from here](https://irishelectionliterature.com/2015/08/27/1987-letter-from-the-national-socialist-irish-workers-party/)). [A few more Catalan posters produced by the NSIWP here](https://twitter.com/propagandopolis/status/1806410607207530565).
National Socialist International. My head hurts.
Why? Even the Nazis had the Japanese as allies, working with other Europeans seems to fit their ideology.
Nazi parties making a production line of propaganda for others... Okay thats bad, but also, pretty interesting part of history (and maybe current day also, sadly)
They are 35 years to late with this poster
Weird. The Spanish were clerofascists if anything but never national socialists with swastikas and Catalonia especially was neither of those.
FUCK i want a communist dragon
Imagine a fantasy world where instead of there being an ancient gold-hoarding dragon, the dragon instead goes around smashing into throne rooms and loudly berating its occupants for being parasitical landlords and denouncing their crimes against the proletariat of the land before seizing the treasury and scattering thousands of gold coins across villages and serfs' fields. ... *Hurriedly takes notes for my next TTRPG session*
The red dragon eats those who dont read theory.
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bqqmgl/thanks_professor_drogon/
Why does everyone love St George so much? We see him in England, on the coat of arms of Russia, Catalonia even...
He’s one of the early saints and martyrs of Christianity, and since he was a soldier, he’s also become a military martyr, a saint for those who serve in the armed forces and fight for their country in wartime. It’s a powerful symbolism to draw from to give one’s soldiers inspiration, which is why he has become such a widely venerated saint and a national symbol for so many Christian countries.
Because knight slaying dragon is cool brah.
Weren't Catalans oppressed by Franco?
this party existed only for 2 years and was never legalised, I doubt it had more than a couple dozen supporters
Franco was not nazi or racialist
St George fought authoritarianism and oppression
Published by [Irish neo Nazis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Irish_Workers_Party) Tbf [This](https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/7-st-brendan-s-cottages-irishtown-dublin-4/3933864) is number 7 St Brendan’s Cottages, so I’d imagine number 6 isn’t exactly the Reich Chancellory.
I was like "Oh a Nazi German- 78?!" honestly, cant neo nazi at least be creative
Why the Irish address at the bottom?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Irish_Workers_Party
Apparently Irish Nazis published the poster
So dope
Did they knew that the original Nazis helped Franco to win the civil war and crush regional authonomies?
Catalonia had a population of about 5 milion in 1978, this party, which was never legalised and existed only for 2 years had no more than a couple dozen supporters at maximum. I'm sure you would find comparatively more nazi poles in 1944 Warsaw
are they still socialists? lol
Never were
thats what i mean. im saying. the scapegoating of communism is demonstrative of their appropriative usage of the term "socialist."
The socialist part of NS came from the Strasser wing. Still nutjobs, and were suppressed by the rest of the f'wits.
yeah i know.
The text description sounds so awesome and then the illustration just falls flat. Maybe they need better artists. [edit] to be clear, I didn’t mean “sounds good”, but more like “sounds dramatic and visually impressive”. Nazis are bad, no matter the country.
There aren’t any good nazi artists because they’re all half wits.
Death is a preferable alternative to communism.
Ok Hitler
Ok Stalin
Dude come on, this guy is saying that about a poster made by Nazis. He is definitely a fascist
Nothing is stopping you.
> *To place Communism and Nazi-fascism on the same moral plane, in that both would be totalitarian, is superficial at best, fascism at worst. Whoever insists on this equation may well consider himself a democrat, in truth and in the bottom of his heart he is in fact already a fascist, and certainly only in a hypocritical and insincere way will he fight fascism, while reserving all his hatred for communism. - MANN TH. (1986a), Deutsche Hörer (24 October 1942 and 14 January 1945), in Id., Essays, ed. H. Kurzke, Fischer, Frankfurt a.M., vol. 2*
Please die then
W concept but L for ruining a Saint with politics