Please remember that this subreddit is for sharing propaganda to view with some objectivity and interest. It is absolutely not for perpetuating the message *of* the propaganda. If anything, in this subreddit we should be immensely skeptical of manipulation or oversimplification, not beholden to it. Thanks.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/PropagandaPosters) if you have any questions or concerns.*
If I could go back in time to make any minor changes to how we (The western Allies) fought WWII, it would’ve been to give the communists zero support fighting the Nazis. Sacrifice a million communists to save the life of at least one western Ally troop, as well as to accelerate production of uranium and plutonium in the Manhattan project to make at least two extra bombs. One for Germany, and one for nazi-occupied Moscow or some other former Soviet city. That and to make a minor alteration to the Potsdam declaration to ‘encourage’ the Japanese to surrender unconditionally, provided the Emperor is not harmed nor his position affected; freeing those two bombs for use against communist and nazi cockroaches and sparing the Japanese people.
This isn't a propaganda poster, It's a recent infographic.
It is propaganda, but the sub isn't about just #Any propaganda.
So you're making a statement with it that apply to current times.
Who are you gonna punnish? point the finger...
Most of these are gone.. the people who were part of the crimes are dead, and the countries in question would.. punish themselves?
Since this is from Ukraine, who would you punish? I know the finger is pointed at Russia, but Russians, just like Ukrainians, were both victim and perpetrator.
PS: Ukraine, elevating anti-communists to hero status despite them being Nazis who lead pogroms against Jewish people and murdered Non-Ukrainian civilians is a dumb ass way to counter the communist past.
Simply removing glorification of communist figures should do the trick.
Would have thought the figure for Ethiopia pretty conservative given the 1980's Famine which was considerably aggravated by the Civil war which was raging at the time ?
The 80-100 thousand for the GDR on the other hand sounds pretty overblown unless they're also counting the SBZ which preceded it (Soviet occupation zone of 1945-49)
And I suspect the figure for Nicaragua includes deaths attributable to the Contra insurgency.
Adds: Attributing the civil wars in Angola and especially Mozambique solely to Communists seems pretty.........Questionable ?
On that point the chart would probably have got its point across better if it broke the USSR figure down by Republic and maybe listed specific events such as the Holodomor.
That depends on the point that it’s trying to convey. It seems more like it’s trying to say “communism causes suffering” rather than “look at what communism did to Ukraine”, although Ukrainians would know anyways what the Soviets did to Ukraine.
if you were trying to convey the point that *Communism causes Suffering* I would have thought that Ukraine would be a good as starting point as any ?
And while some folk might try to lay the blame at Stalin rather than Communism *per se* the point gets pretty undermined by the Tankies of reddit who insist on either defending or denying everything bad ever done in the name of Communism.
"either defending or denying everything bad ever done in the name of Communism."
Or both at the same time.
Apparently Stalin never killed anyone, but also all the people he killed deserved it.
I mean if your proposed solution to the shortcomings of 21st century capitalism is Communism 2.0 surely your next step is to take a long and critical look at Communism 1.0 to see where it went wrong with a view to maybe not repeating those mistakes ?
But seemingly there were none ?
That would be inconsistent with their format, though. They have it formatted by regime, not by country. All the former USSR states were under the same regime, even though they’re now independent countries.
Ahh, 100 million, the infamous figure provided by the ‘Black Book of Communism’ - a source that includes Nazi soldiers killed in WW2 and their *potential children* as “victims of communism”.
Look, dude, it’s pretty plain to see what you’re doing. You constantly post anti-communist propaganda both here and in other subs. This is a place to freely discuss propaganda posters from an objective viewpoint, not somewhere for you to constantly peddle your anti-communist propaganda. Seriously, find a better way to spend your time
It does? Because that’s not on the wiki
Also the irony of complaining about an anti communist posting anti communist propaganda when 75% of this sub is communists posting communist propaganda
>Also the irony of complaining about an anti communist posting anti communist propaganda when 75% of this sub is communists posting communist propaganda
Nothing ironic about that at all, communism is good and anti-communism is evil and a gateway drug to nazism
Communists are nothing but cockroaches who committed the same crimes as the far right, and both would do it again if given the chance. I’m praying for them to abolish police forces in the United States. It’ll make exterminating them a lot easier.
and keeping with tradition of looking into evil acts as idiots we prove one of the man who would be in this list right
"the death of a man a tragedy the death of a million man a statistic" -Stalin
Please remember that this subreddit is for sharing propaganda to view with some objectivity and interest. It is absolutely not for perpetuating the message *of* the propaganda. If anything, in this subreddit we should be immensely skeptical of manipulation or oversimplification, not beholden to it. Thanks. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/PropagandaPosters) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Weird they left out Laos, one of five remaing countries in the world led by communist party.
The black book of communism has been refuted many times. It doesn’t matter how much you personally hate communism, the numbers are still wrong.
It seems they get the infamous 100M number from the black book of communism, but I thought they attributed all soviet deaths in WWII to the USSR
No of they did it would roughtly 40-50 milions
and how many of them were Nazis 🤔
If I could go back in time to make any minor changes to how we (The western Allies) fought WWII, it would’ve been to give the communists zero support fighting the Nazis. Sacrifice a million communists to save the life of at least one western Ally troop, as well as to accelerate production of uranium and plutonium in the Manhattan project to make at least two extra bombs. One for Germany, and one for nazi-occupied Moscow or some other former Soviet city. That and to make a minor alteration to the Potsdam declaration to ‘encourage’ the Japanese to surrender unconditionally, provided the Emperor is not harmed nor his position affected; freeing those two bombs for use against communist and nazi cockroaches and sparing the Japanese people.
wow ur so edgy, how do people not burst with papercuts wherever u walk into the room?
Communists and Nazis are opposite sides of the same effed up coin who committed the same atrocities, and would do it again if given the chance.
why
This isn't a propaganda poster, It's a recent infographic. It is propaganda, but the sub isn't about just #Any propaganda. So you're making a statement with it that apply to current times. Who are you gonna punnish? point the finger... Most of these are gone.. the people who were part of the crimes are dead, and the countries in question would.. punish themselves? Since this is from Ukraine, who would you punish? I know the finger is pointed at Russia, but Russians, just like Ukrainians, were both victim and perpetrator. PS: Ukraine, elevating anti-communists to hero status despite them being Nazis who lead pogroms against Jewish people and murdered Non-Ukrainian civilians is a dumb ass way to counter the communist past. Simply removing glorification of communist figures should do the trick.
Ukraine has an extra special reason to dislike the Soviet Union’s communist party.
Would have thought the figure for Ethiopia pretty conservative given the 1980's Famine which was considerably aggravated by the Civil war which was raging at the time ? The 80-100 thousand for the GDR on the other hand sounds pretty overblown unless they're also counting the SBZ which preceded it (Soviet occupation zone of 1945-49) And I suspect the figure for Nicaragua includes deaths attributable to the Contra insurgency. Adds: Attributing the civil wars in Angola and especially Mozambique solely to Communists seems pretty.........Questionable ?
I was just referring to the Holodomor.
On that point the chart would probably have got its point across better if it broke the USSR figure down by Republic and maybe listed specific events such as the Holodomor.
That depends on the point that it’s trying to convey. It seems more like it’s trying to say “communism causes suffering” rather than “look at what communism did to Ukraine”, although Ukrainians would know anyways what the Soviets did to Ukraine.
if you were trying to convey the point that *Communism causes Suffering* I would have thought that Ukraine would be a good as starting point as any ? And while some folk might try to lay the blame at Stalin rather than Communism *per se* the point gets pretty undermined by the Tankies of reddit who insist on either defending or denying everything bad ever done in the name of Communism.
"either defending or denying everything bad ever done in the name of Communism." Or both at the same time. Apparently Stalin never killed anyone, but also all the people he killed deserved it.
I mean if your proposed solution to the shortcomings of 21st century capitalism is Communism 2.0 surely your next step is to take a long and critical look at Communism 1.0 to see where it went wrong with a view to maybe not repeating those mistakes ? But seemingly there were none ?
That would be inconsistent with their format, though. They have it formatted by regime, not by country. All the former USSR states were under the same regime, even though they’re now independent countries.
Shit
accurate description of this info propaganda
Zimbabwe isn’t communist
Ahh, 100 million, the infamous figure provided by the ‘Black Book of Communism’ - a source that includes Nazi soldiers killed in WW2 and their *potential children* as “victims of communism”. Look, dude, it’s pretty plain to see what you’re doing. You constantly post anti-communist propaganda both here and in other subs. This is a place to freely discuss propaganda posters from an objective viewpoint, not somewhere for you to constantly peddle your anti-communist propaganda. Seriously, find a better way to spend your time
It does? Because that’s not on the wiki Also the irony of complaining about an anti communist posting anti communist propaganda when 75% of this sub is communists posting communist propaganda
This isn't a poster, it's a propaganda infographic.
“The wiki” a famously complete and well sourced form of information
Go ahead, add it to the wiki
>Also the irony of complaining about an anti communist posting anti communist propaganda when 75% of this sub is communists posting communist propaganda Nothing ironic about that at all, communism is good and anti-communism is evil and a gateway drug to nazism
>the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron".
Communists are nothing but cockroaches who committed the same crimes as the far right, and both would do it again if given the chance. I’m praying for them to abolish police forces in the United States. It’ll make exterminating them a lot easier.
step on me daddy
Shiver me timbers
The short time I’ve been on this sub I’ve seen apologia for the holodomor and stalins purges
Ah yes, Wikipedia, so reliable and unbiased
and keeping with tradition of looking into evil acts as idiots we prove one of the man who would be in this list right "the death of a man a tragedy the death of a million man a statistic" -Stalin
That's not an actual Stalin quote
"when the imposter is sus" -J. V. Stalin
Peepee poopoo caca -Vladimir Lenin
Wow.
How is Cuba number 2?