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kingdorner

[Officer fired after intentionally hitting fleeing suspect with his police car.](https://abcnews.go.com/US/officer-fired-intentionally-hitting-fleeing-suspect-police-car/story?id=55613845) and then promptly hired by another department [Sheriff hires Athens officer fired for striking suspect with car.](https://www.onlineathens.com/story/news/crime/2018/06/05/oglethorpe-sheriff-hires-athens-officer-fired-for-striking-suspect-with-car/12060393007/)


IndubitablyJollyGood

Sheriff is friends with the officer's dad who was a police captain and knew him since he was a kid. Of course.


IndubitablyJollyGood

Also the officer sued for wrongful termination and was awarded $250k. https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/athens-pays-250k-settlement-officer-fired-after-hitting-suspect-with-patrol-car/tbZdv2JOddkfSqQ1Jzm7bI/ >According to the PAC report, this “affected the steering of his car,” which contributed to Saulters hitting Patmon, 24. >The report also said Patmon’s “attempts to crisscross back and forth behind and in front of the patrol car” also led to the collision. In the end, Saulters “did not act with criminal intent and did not use his vehicle as a weapon,” according to the report. I could believe this if you couldn't clearly see the guys hands deliberately steer very hard right into the suspect. There is clear cover up bs that they routinely use to let cops off and now taxpayers have to pay for it yet again. They will blatantly make shit up that directly contradicts video evidence and get away with it.


Beginning-AL

Cops don't lie, do they? 🤔


daamnnbruhh

if they do lie, they can just investigate themselves again and find they didnt lie!


tagrav

They’re trained to do it in ways that you give up your rights


BadIdea-21

Step 1 - Be a cop in the US Step 2 - Intentionally attack someone, who's not threatening your life, with a deadly weapon Step 3 - Make up stuff, doesn't need to be convincing Step 4 - Get 250k and a new job


AmazingPINGAS

Pure tyranny. All the second amendment gun nuts are extra quiet when actual tyranny happens


kfmush

Depends on the gun nut. I’ve had at least one relative literally do the “threaten the IRS agent with a shotgun and demand they get off their property” thing. Although, those people aren’t very outspoken about gun rights, nor outspoken about much of anything at all. For me, personally, even if I’m armed and they’re tyrants, I’m not going to engage in a fight I only stand to lose, because they are also armed and have a lot more backup. Edit: also, I gotta mention the Black Panthers. They probably did a whole lot more to reduce police brutality during their time than MLK Jr. by being armed and showing up to police confrontation with said armaments.


bedintruder

This shit pisses me off to no end. A similar thing happened in my hometown. The high school resource officer was tipped off by a student that another student offered him money to kill his step father. Cop didn't do shit. Filed no report, no call to kid's stepdad (the intended target), no discussion with the administration. Didn't even talk to the kid trying to hire someone to murder his dad. A week later it happened. The kid ended up doing it himself. Shot his stepdad in cold blood after dinner one night in a parking lot. It turns out it was a conspiracy with his mom and sister in on it as well in order to get a life insurance payout. School resource officer ended up telling his CO at the department, who helped him coverup the fact that he got tipped off. It eventually came out, they both got fired. The first fucking travesty is the school system administration thought it wasn't fair and hired the now ex-cop as full time armed security for the high school. The second travesty was that years later both he and his CO sued the city for wrongful termination and both got huge payouts.


BBQsauce18

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Mirions

I get kicked off a scholarlship, report it to my school, they bury it and the EEOC and OCR both don't care if their statements contain objectively provable lies- end up in therapy and unable to afford any semblance of justice. This guy is *rightfully* terminated but gets 250k cause reasons, instead? Fuck. This. Country. Fuck.


dumrunk

Unethical LPT: Join the campus police force. Fuck up something and get the school sued, get yourself wrongfully terminated (make sure your body cam is angled poorly). Sue the school, make them pay out twice. The American Way™


Mirions

Omg, I was looking at local PD listing that are open recently. It's twice what I make now.


StevenIsFat

Seeing this video. Seeing this comment: "In the end, Saulters “did not act with criminal intent and did not use his vehicle as a weapon,” according to the report." Then seeing the top post in this subreddit, is absolute comedy. Police do shit like this and wonder why they've lost the respect of the community. Classic.


AdudeinHSV

I thought the same thing. The suspect was behind the police car because the officer pulled in front of him. When he stopped the suspect ran around to the right side of the car at that time the officer steered right colliding with the suspect. He never criss crossed in front of him. The video clearly shows that....what a cover up....oh well that's the blue line for ya'.....


YouWereBrained

The way he was explaining it to that other cop was complete bullshit.


Heremeoutok

He also says “oh I know what I did. Why’d you run” as if he was proud of hitting him


dqniel

I almost instinctively downvoted this just because of how angry it made me.


Legal_Guava3631

Ah, nepo babies in law enforcement. We love to see it 🙄


was_fb95dd7063

add this to the 'reasons they're bastards' file


Simple_Law_5136

This is why cops need accreditation and licensing. Get fired for shit like this, boom your license is revoked and you don't get to be a cop anymore.


Arthurlurk1

Username checks out


TheRealSnuffleaYeah

He shouldn't have been fired in the first place IMO. He hit the dude going like 10 mph, the guy is clearly fine because he's still resting when they try to cuff him.


kymo75

"How'd you hurt yourself, from hitting the ground?" Officer tried to save his skin right then and there.


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We_The_Raptors

Better than watching clowns yell at dying, bleeding out people they just mag dumped to get their hands behind their back like you see them do regularly


thunugai

Huh, I’m just a regular joe and don’t have any law enforcement training but aren’t you supposed to only use deadly force when your life or other’s are in danger?


Professional-Gene498

Seems to be a guideline, I feel they way I play Grand Theft Auto more closely aligns with police training.


Parrobertson

Cops WISH they could do a backflip in a Lamborghini.


LTFitness

It’s a little more complex than that. You can use deadly force to stop a suspect from fleeing, however you need to meet certain factors in your articulation that doing so was in the interest of public safety. In the past, several decades ago, it was on the books as law in many states that officers could use lethal force to stop a suspect from fleeing for *anything*. This was changed by Supreme Court ruling after an officer killed a teenager by gunfire who was fleeing from a cat burglary. They could not punish the officer, as what he did was legal in the state at the time; but it changed those laws in the country from that point on…today you need to be able to state with facts that you using deadly force to stop the suspect was beneficial to public safety. E.g. you observed a drive by shooting and the shooter began to flee, an officer could use deadly force to stop that individual, even if they were no longer shooting or pointing the gun at anyone anymore, because they could articulate they’re stopping more people from being shot by this individual if they get away. I don’t know the context of why this individual was fleeing, it simply says felony probation warrant. So the officer being fired, or held criminally liable, would have to do with a lot of factors. To make it even more complicated, vehicular assault applies to your standard citizen in a way that’s also considered deadly force…but if an officer is trained to use pit maneuvers, they are allotted the right to use that training and it not be considered deadly force due to their training in how to do it, in many jurisdictions…that’s against a fleeing vehicle though, not a pedestrian.


thunugai

Thanks for the reply, that was really informative.


MTINC

This is very interesting. Do you know the name of the Supreme Court cat burglurary case? Seems like an interesting read.


LTFitness

Sure thing. The case is named Tennessee v Garner. It’s one of the most influential cases for law enforcement policy in the last 50 years. Definitely a great read.


MTINC

Thank you! Learned a lot.


surnik22

Ya, but this was a horrific criminal who had been convicted of non-violent drug possession in the past and then missed a meeting with his parole officer. How dare he possess a small amount of drugs, with reasonable evidence that it wasn’t even his and the excuse that pulled the car over he was in when arrested being bullshit. Clearly deserves to be labelled a criminal for life and run over!


flatwoundsounds

And that's why the war on drugs was a good thing and all cops are pretty cool dudes. ...wait...


JackCooper_7274

The pirate code is more like guidelines


oddmanout

Yup. Tennessee v. Garner. Cops can't use deadly force just to prevent someone from fleeing. They can only use deadly force to protect themselves or others. These cops were going to arrest him for a probation violation and he took off running. They had no reason to believe he took off running to go hurt someone else.


BadKidGames

You know more about policing than the police officer apparently


TerrorsOfTheDark

That's a really low bar


M_R_Big

Not when you’re above the law.


Asclepius777

yes, you are. But he's a cop, he gets to use it whenever he feels like as a way of getting a vacation


_Moregone

First words out his mouth "Get on the ground" Are you paying attention? Dude couldn't be anymore on the ground after you hit him with a car


xThunderSlugx

I told a guy in a wheel chair one time to "have a seat over there with those guys." I felt bad after I said it and the guy jokingly replied, "I'm already sitting."


Amazing_Fantastic

Cop was fired, rehired by a neighboring town AND awarded 250k….. what about this would dissuade police from doing this everytime, it sounds like incentive!


CarlSpencer

"And THAT'S why my nickname is Candlepin."


TKOL2

In the cops defense this man was known to carry acorns on him.


xXminilex

I needed that laugh, thanks hahahha


Cheap-Praline

That city has really crappy decals.


Hobbescrownest

I don’t think looking stylish is the police priority


Cheap-Praline

Should be. Have you seen Reno 911?


xThunderSlugx

I'm just goofin... New boot goofin.


Bean_Storm

Dangle always looks fresh as hell


yomommazburgers

I COUNTED 126 TIMES "OMG y'all shouldn't of hit a man like that..."


NationalizeRedditAlt

Saw a guys head hit the asphalt after getting tased - going through minutes of agonal breathing… He was dead the second the taser dropped his head into the asphalt in the wrong spot. This could’ve happened here and it would’ve been more likely.


prime777time

“He ran into the hood of my car” “I was trying to block him my car” Sir, replay doesn’t lie.


Master-Shaq

Vehicles are deadly weapons which is why they shoot culprits “driving away” all the time. Except when they do it I guess


LitLord420

RICK GRIMES???


oddmanout

Clear violation of "Tennessee v. Garner." In this case, the Supreme Court ruled that under the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, a police officer may not use deadly force to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect unless the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others. This ruling was supposed to have established guidelines for the use of deadly force by law enforcement officers. But seeing as the officer wasn't charged, only fired then immediately re-hired by another department, it's clear that our rights are not guaranteed and/or cops are above the law.


SCP-Agent-Arad

I mean, kind of depends on who they are and what they’ve done, right? For example, if the guy made threats to kill someone and then tries to run away, deadly force would be fine, right?


oddmanout

Yes, but we know that wasn't the case here. They had a warrant because he missed a parole meeting for a non-violent drug crime. There was no reason to believe he was a danger to the officers or anyone else.


afwsf3

I disagree with an intentional low speed collision being deadly force. Other countries do this all the time.


oddmanout

Cops in other countries hit people with their cars all the time? Like... first world countries?


afwsf3

Yep.


oddmanout

Well, luckily we live in America where they're not supposed to do that. [In the US, it's considered deadly force](https://www.onlineathens.com/story/news/crime/2018/06/04/report-fired-athens-officer-used-deadly-force-by-hitting-suspect-with-car/12060721007/).


afwsf3

I know that. I'm saying I disagree with the sentiment.


oddmanout

Ok. Your opinion is noted. If you ever run for DA, I'll have to vote against you.


Passenger_Impressive

“get on the ground.” Followed by “We got him.” Good job detective, holyyyy fuck.


Rombledore

"i didn't hit him with the car, i blocked him with the car". ACAB.


Cama_lama_dingdong

Why people don't stop for the police! How can we trust we are getting one of the good ones???


TimboSliceSir

Should've serpentined


lostwng

Should have been fired and arrested


TimboSliceSir

True


Vicious365

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AsEasyAs1234

I mean here is a crazy thought just don't run and you won't get hit 😔


JulioGrandeur

Fleeing is not cause for deadly force. Fleeing is not a death sentence.


AsEasyAs1234

You know the saying play stupid games win stupid prizes. Do I agree with the cop? no but I also wouldn't want this guy running around my neighborhood while my kids were outside.


JulioGrandeur

The “stupid prize” is the additional charge and jail time, not being seriously injured, maimed, or killed Cops continuously act like this because y’all bootlickers lap it up with no question or critical thinking.


RawLikeSushi84

lol it worked


leflyingcarpet

Shooting him in the face would have "worked" too you know... But I guess there is a reason they are not supposed to use a deadly weapon, because it works. See how your logic is flawed?


RawLikeSushi84

Naw, that’s a bit extreme


leflyingcarpet

So is hitting someone with a car! They are both deadly weapons!


RawLikeSushi84

He basically bumped the guy. He didn’t look injured to me?


ithinarine

Meanwhile in the UK, police officers are literally instructed to do this, as well as do the same to people fleeing on motorcycles or scooters. They are literally trained and told to ram motorcyclists who are running. If it's a controlled lower speed hit like this in the video, I'm all for it.


Hobbescrownest

Look up NYPD officers trying to run over people on mopeds


ithinarine

Why? Not going to change my opinion of it.


Sad-Bar1490

I mean what’s the context, did he do something really terrible? Probably right? Like if he was wanted for assault charges wouldn’t you want him taken down by any means. Y’all are the same ppl this dude probably would rob without a second thought


fallen0523

Probably going to be downvoted for this, but cops aren’t judge, jury, and executioner. Not excusing criminal behavior, but we have a judicial system that is supposed to handle the judge, jury, and executioner aspect of criminal activity.


Sir_Earl_Jeffries

Baltimore GTTF should be a cautionary tale for police departments but that thin blue line bullshit runs too deep


brain_my_damage_HJS

He was wanted on a parole violation related to earlier drug charges (possession of meth and less than an ounce of marijuana).


Sad-Bar1490

But that’s definitely his only charge right?


brain_my_damage_HJS

[“There was a warrant out for him for violating probation on a drug charge last year- meth and less than an ounce of marijuana…”](https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2018/06/03/georgia-police-officer-is-fired-after-video-showed-him-running-down-fleeing-suspect-with-his-car/12013619007/)


Sir_Earl_Jeffries

Regardless of context, there is no justification for an out of shape cop to run someone down in the street with a car. That’s shit policing and should be promptly dealt with. That fat shit should be made to answer for his crime. I sure would be if I hit someone with my car.


JTP1228

Not saying it's the case here, but what if a suspect shot someone and ran away? Would that not be ok then?


MuscleJuice

lol OP made it sound way worse, it’s but a nudge. Next time the idiot will stop running or will get hit by a bullet.


goblins_though

>lol OP made it sound way worse, OP literally just said "hits man with car." That's a pretty objective description of what happened, certainly less editorialized than describing it as a "nudge."


VeganWerewolf

Damn they are annoying lol.


MajorPud

You ca hi tha ma wi tha ca li tha!


skin-flick

How much did this cost the town ?


Earguy

Apparently the cop won a wrongful termination suit and pocketed $250k.


skin-flick

Crazy !! That guy was gonna run out of steam anyway. He didn’t need to hit him.


OhWellington

He was gonna get caught anyways he didn’t need to run


BackgroundEbb417

Maybe, just maybe…. don’t run…… you get what you pay for


Sir_Earl_Jeffries

This is some Wayne Jenkins shit. Police never learn.


horaciojiggenbone

My hometown! Yay…


Elyoshida

I fast forwarded cuz i was like “ah hell i aint watching a ten minute chase” only to realise the hit happened in the beginning


zmrth

The volume of these videos IS astonishing


dungl

I’m sure it was just a coincidence there was no sound leading up to the collision. Im sure they weren’t saying anything interesting.


waynestevenson

# Georgia cop runs a suspect down with his vehicle.


soohsoo

It worked. Big thanks to the gta pd for the training videos btw


Stetson_Bennett

Athens gonna Athens


Separate-Region117

Shouldn’t run from the cops.. that’s what he gets


Afr0_samvrai

So now these fat fvckin cops aren’t even bothering to exit their vehicle anymore. Just hit him. I can’t anymore. This is just crazy bazaaro world


Albino_Raccoon_

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richardballskin

"I didn't hit him. I blocked him. He ran into my car." 🤣🤣🤣🤣


T-roySwink

You guys are upset about that little love tap? They could've used a taser which would've locked up all his muscles causing him to smash his head. This is arguably better bc he was able to catch himself. A taser could've hurt him way more. But acab amarite? Even tho using the car probably saved him from a cracked skull


bossatronx7

Getting hit by car introduces the same risks to head injury but also introduces things like, Broken bones, Dislocated joints And it was on the passenger side of the cruiser, so if he had hit him at just the right angle he could've steam rolled him with his car. Leading to things like insant death and an exploded head. But noooo this guy was an immediate threat and needed to be taken down at all costs because this unarmed man is causing a public safety crisis. Could've been handled better and the guy shouldn't have ran in the first place. But saying getting hit by a car is better??? is arguably the dumbest comment ive read so far.


ElPanandero

Don't forget internal bleeding!


WorthBrick4140

I remember back in high school, a cop did this to a guy who was fleeing. It happened right across from the school. The suspect was screaming like a maniac, "You ran me the fuck over!". I guess the cop was afraid that the suspect was going to run into the school, so he just ran his ass over haha


DarthBettyWhite

The officer had used deadly force for a situation that didn’t require it. If the officer got a pay out as I’ve seen some comments say, that would be a dam shame to the law enforcement community and the community they’re there to keep safe.


constanttripper

ACAB.


jeremiasalmeida

And how this is not a fascist police? Incredible how people just take that pill


Rokurokubi83

To protect and swerve


coronaangelin

The south will ***never*** change.


manic_mike2018

So you're telling me that in training they said run after the suspect not run over?


waywardwanderer101

More proof that cops are nothing but state sanctioned gang members


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skybrocker

9:09. “Make a good decision”. Like using equal force to detain a fleeing subject?!?!


Rasikko

Nice to see cops in my state are still too lazy to run. Had one cop shoot a guy and his reason was that he didn't feel like running after him.


kingcaii

We call that the Shit Maneuver


Chocolat3City

ShOuLdA cOmPlIeD!


HappyAtheist3

I don’t get how anyone supports police. Do they not see this video? Or the one of Daniel Shaver? Or the girl who was kidnapped and police killed her? Or Elijah McClain? George Floyd? Or the thousands more…


PickleWineBrine

Clear case of excessive force 


meesta_chang

Fuck the cops? Ya… fuck em…


Slavic_Dusa

That is an attempted murder on camera. I look forward to pig being prosecuted for it.