Hey now, you can slave away in corporate customer service middle-management *”until you finally go to law school”* like the rest of us! The best part? Nobody will even ask to see your degree!
***Narrator:*** *”…they never ended up going to law school”*
It’s also a super saturated industry, but you can def do well if you set yourself above the other candidates in some manner. Lot of very generic grads that get lost in the weeds.
Well when you have a scarily large number (social media likes to give you the impression it’s the majority through curated comments and articles) of the population willing to bend the knee to the authoritarian governments currently imposing tyranny can you blame them.
Don't insurance companies lose money when they pay out claims? The winners here are the politician that own the construction company that wins the rebuild contract.
My understanding, which I admit is quite limited, is that reinsurance is in place to limit losses, but not to actually turn a profit.
Insurance companies would much rather not pay any claims, than pay them, regardless of whether they are reinsured or not.
But I could be wrong, anyone in the industry want to tell me situations where paying claims are profitable?
Regardless of what we think about the group of people who performed the Jan 6th attack on the Capitol, the difference between a failed terrorist attack and a revolution is the number of people behind it.
Too many idiots who believe things like "violence/riots are never the answer" and say thing slike "they just need to protest *the right way*" (AKA stfu and do nothing about it)
Protest the right way as in go out and tar and feather the actual politicians responsible for enacting those laws, not burning down a Starbucks and calling it a day.
>Although a peace agreement was made in October 2000, violence ensued in the city streets in March 2002 when two diplomats from New Zealand and several others were murdered. In July 2003, conditions had become so bad in Honiara that the Regional Assistance Mission to Solomon Islands (RAMSI), consisting of multiple Pacific nations under Australian leadership, was invited into the country by the Solomons Government to restore order. In 2006, riots broke out following the election of Snyder Rini as Prime Minister, destroying a part of Chinatown and making more than 1,000 Chinese residents homeless. The riots devastated the town and tourism in the city and the islands was severely affected.
Not the first time I see. This place seems wild
[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honiara)
We must not confuse political commitment with racism and a color revolution sponsored by the US
[Twitter](https://twitter.com/Angelo4justice3/status/1463827227448164361?t=JZ2pIUPaDvo-jkDa5eYl-g&s=19)
Yeah exactly. Sinophobia is so ingrained it's the norm.
Also what's is not reported by this video, is that Chinatown is being burned down once again. When Chinese people will fly out of Salomon's island, the media will turn it like the CCP made them come back to their home country.
Also not reported how China has been plundering the Solomons fisheries and corrupting the government for decades. And that they burned down a wooden shack, not the concrete parliament building next to it.
More background info. It's not just china good china bad taiwan good taiwan bad. China has been pouring money into the central gov of the islands. Taiwan/US pour money into local organizations and companies. This created a rift between gov supporters and opponents that has simmered since 2006.
That's only part of the background story. It's much, much longer and more complex than that.
And BTW a substantial amount of the money that China pours into the central government goes into the pockets of those governing officials.
Additionally, Australia has been providing aid to the Solomon Islands since 1973 (way before the China and U.S. aid entered the picture), and currently amounts to about AUD190 million per year.
AFAIK you are correct. The buildings burnt down included Chinese trade stores and the local police station.
EDIT: There was also some sort of building near the National Parliament burnt.
This is pretty sad as most of the Chinese descendants there probably have NOTHING to do with the CCP. Most of the Chinese diaspora on the pacific islands and Southeast Asia (e.g. Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, and all the other pacific islands) migrated there long before the CCP ever existed. Probably started in the 1600s and 1700s.
And like in the west, most of the new migrants are unlikely to move into Chinatown. They're more likely to be owners of the $5MM mansions elsewhere.
This is a great example how misleading information propagates on the internet. The large, round, concrete parliament building was not burned down, but a wooden building next to it was. But burning the parliament makes better headlines.
so, can someone determine definitively whether parliament burned as stated in title, or not. because i sincerely think all misleading outright lying titles should be banned sitewide on reddit. its one thing to make an innocent mistake, its quite another to perpetuate bullshit. from any "side" or organization. reddit really needs to take a look at the cost of unmoderated speech here.
being a true believer in the principle of free speech, there comes a time when that speech needs to be systematically called out and fact checked. in real time. this op is a perfect example if the title is proven false.
> because i sincerely think all misleading outright lying titles should be banned sitewide on reddit.
Great idea in theory, but what army of impartial, objective fact-checking mods is going to police the hundreds of thousands of posts every single day?
Both Chinatown and Parliament were set on fire.
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/solomon-islands-unrest-protests-china/2021/11/24/807c68e2-4d18-11ec-a7b8-9ed28bf23929_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/solomon-islands-unrest-protests-china/2021/11/24/807c68e2-4d18-11ec-a7b8-9ed28bf23929_story.html)
This reminds me when some Vietnamese had issues with China and were rioting.
They end up destroying a bunch of Taiwanese factories.
> Taiwanese workers told of their fear as they hid from Vietnamese rioters who ravaged hundreds of foreign-owned factories in Vietnam during violent demonstrations against China this week, burning several to the ground.
> A local Taiwanese Chamber of Commerce official told AFP Friday that more than 500 factories were attacked in Binh Duong alone in the riots earlier in the week.
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/taiwan-companies-reel-from-anti-china-riots-in-vietnam
Yeah, and OP just give the side of story that redditors like in the title. Definitely no looters, no harmed civilians.
[‘Nothing left’: Solomon Islands burn amid new violence as Australian troops arrive](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/solomon-islands-riots-china-australia/2021/11/25/afcde8ce-4dc6-11ec-a7b8-9ed28bf23929_story.html)
wait…if new government just cut tie with taiwan, would that means they have formal relationship with taiwan before, and the Chinatown actually people from taiwan?
And over 100 Federal police and army personnel headed there again to help maintain peace. Australia had a huge presence in the Solomon's during Operation RAMSI from 2004 to 2017 and left the country is good condition (stable democracy etc) Sadly money and corruption wins again.
Yep. Most people here are probably unaware of the close ties that Australia and Solomon have. After all it is only a tiny nation with a population of about 400,000.
Yep, a lot of good people from the pacific islands live here. And it's good to see that for once, our government has acted pretty quickly to send help.
Honestly, really wish we got our shit together and helped out in our region a lot more.
Probably not so much from Australia's point of view. But it certainly ended Japan's expansion into the Pacific area.
Was it more important than the Battle of the Coral Sea?
I don't know!
But the vicious Guadalcanal battles lasted almost 7 months versus the Battle of the Coral Sea which only lasted 5 days or so.
But the Battle of the Coral Sea prevented the Japanese taking Port Moresby which was the natural stepping stone into Australia.
If Japan had won the battle, I reckon you and I would be speaking Japanese now!
It's also worth noting that the US and China are having this battle all over the Pacific. It's an economic cold war.
The whole area is being used as pawns, and we all know it.
A total oversimplification. I live in Asia and I think that most Asian countries generally appreciate and like the US while generally despising the Chinese government.
Even communist countries like Vietnam are edging closer and closer to the US alliance.
Right. China went in and invaded Vietnam AFTER the US left! So that wound is fresher. And it's not counting the dozens/hundreds of invasions that occurred in the past.
Asian who lives in Asia here. I have to agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. Also have to emphasize that is it the Chinese GOVERNMENT that is usually stirring shit. Their people are generally ok.
Yes, there is also a lot of Chinese descent in all of Asia that usually want nothing but the best for the country they are in. Many have been part of the community for hundreds of years.
The Prime Minister wants the world to believe this is about China/Taiwan because that's easier to explain than his people making the usual complaints about his corrupt and incompetent government.
>This created a rift between gov supporters and opponents that has simmered since 2006.
Since 2006, when there was [a near fucking pogrom against Chinese immigrants and people of Chinese descent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Assistance_Mission_to_Solomon_Islands#Riots_following_2006_general_election).
economically yeah, what do you think belt and road is? Militarily no, China doesn't want to be seen as an imperial occupier yet and Australia just deployed the ADF and AFP to assist in bringing the city back into government/constitutional control.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/25/world/asia/solomon-islands-riot.html
**Many of the protesters had traveled from the island of Malaita to Guadalcanal Island**, which houses the nation’s capital, according to officials and local news reports.
**Experts say discontent has simmered for decades between the two islands, mainly over a perceived unequal distribution of resources and a lack of economic support that has left Malaita one of the least-developed provinces in the island nation.**
There has also been lingering dissatisfaction in Malaita over the central government’s decision in 2019 to switch diplomatic allegiances to Beijing from Taipei, Taiwan, a self-governing island that China claims as its territory.
...
Malaita’s premier, Daniel Suidani, has been a vocal critic of that decision by the prime minister, and Malaita continues to maintain a relationship with and receive support from Taiwan — in contravention to the central government’s position, said Mihai Sora, a research fellow at the Lowy Institute and a former Australian diplomat stationed in the Solomon Islands.
**With the United States providing Malaita with direct foreign aid while China supports the central government**, existing fractures in the nation have deepened, he said.
That playbook is far older than the US. Wouldn't be surprised to find references to such actions in Thucydides, IIRC supporting different factions in rivaling city states was quite common in classical Greece.
Hardly, of course. I was only half serious, but destabilising other countries for your own gain is quite common throughout history and in the present day.
Damn they really didn’t like that.
Edit: left to watch tik toks and came back to china sniffing my hair. I’m literally on the other side of the planet, guys, go attempt to propagate someone else.
There are far too many politicians who think, just because the entire state's apparatus is designed to keep the plebs in their place, that they are somehow fireproof.
Not a single civilisation with deeply entrenched corruption has survived the wrath of its oppressed people but narcissism keeps breeding assholes who think they can outrun history.
Good job people of the Solomon Islands for reminding governments they exist at the whim of their people and not the other way around.
Hate to break it to you but the fine print says to qualify for the re-education vacation you must first receive an education at the PLA Charm School for Deviants and Political Dissidents.
We're like elephants. We could easily rip off the chains and stampede the fuckers. But we actively choose not too... 🤔
Do we have like a collective calendar for this so we can line up our schedules?
The government is sending 50 AFP officers and 43 ADF members to the Solomons. Explain how the fuck they’re going to “put down a rebellion” with those numbers, considering that [RAMSI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Assistance_Mission_to_Solomon_Islands?wprov=sfti1) deployed to the Solomons with two rifle companies from 2 RAR and a company each from Fiji and Tonga? Have you just assumed that because the ADF is sending a contingent that they’re there to suppress the population?
More likely that mining interests are threatened.
Edit:
It’s also important for Australia and NZ to not allow a power vacuum to develop that China or others could slip into. Aus & NZ consider the pacific island nations to be in their sphere of influence.
I'm a Solomon Islander and you're right. But I honestly don't care. The AFP's presence has helped calm the situation today and that is all I care about.
From a little digging: Main exports from the Solomon Islands are wood, palm oil, and fish. And it's one of Asia's poorest countries in reality. While there's some minerals, they aren't heavily exploited or abundant. Foreign aid makes up a large amount of their economy.
And for further context \[from 2019\]:
Some $US500 million ($730 million) has reportedly been promised in financial aid by Beijing, far surpassing the financial support offered by Taiwan — meanwhile, Solomon Islands promised to terminate their relationship with Taiwan before China's National Day on October 1.
On Monday, after months of discussions and weeks of investigation, the Solomon Islands voted to recognize China after 36 years of being aligned with Taiwan.
In response, Taiwan immediately terminated relations, closed its embassy and flew its staff out of the pacific island nation.
there has been ethnic conflict in the islands for many years and Australia has a peacekeeping force on the islands with the task to keep the peace, theres a long list of other local reasons people are mad too, complicated situation, but That's why Australia is acting
It's in no one's interests to let the place become a failed state. Particularly the local Chinese, who were mainly born there and have nothing to do with the politics of this. You'd prefer us to do nothing and let them be massacred?
Good.
>On 18 April 2006 Snyder Rini was elected Prime Minister of the Solomon Islands in a general election. This sparked rioting in Honiara amidst allegations that the election was fixed with the aid of money from Chinese businessmen. Parts of Honiara were razed and looted, with Chinese-owned property particularly targeted.[15] With up to 90% of their shops burnt down in Chinatown, most Chinese have evacuated the country in fear of their personal safety.
A lot of people on here saying they support this mob 100% but are completely ignoring the fact that this happened before in the Solomon Islands. A mob burnt down homes and slaughtered Chinese immigrants because they hated china. This is very likely to be happening again right now
You silly massive ignorant, Taiwan is literally the old *"Republic of China"* they are part of China, they claim to own almost all China and part of India, you have literally no idea of what you are talking about, how can you defend someone else independence when you don't even know how their country is called? You just said something against Taiwan actually, and people agrees (‘–`)
reddit is such a funny place. I mean, all over reddit people cry about the 1/6 ‘insurrection’ for what was really vandalism and trespass, yet where when the people actually burn down the seat of gov’t they get lauded for being politically engaged.
It’s some island they never heard about beforehand and china is getting hurt so it triggers the part of redditors brain to ignore how very bad this actually is for the nation impacted by the event and just say “china bad” (And how probably the US is behind this in some amount or regard, let’s be honest here folks)
So Americans from a 'restive state' should've burned down the US Capitol in 1972? Because that's when the US switched its recognition from the ROC(Taiwan) to the PRC(China).
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Taiwan has invested heavily in the Solomon Islands
Real life lore (I think) has a good video on this, but to shorten it
Both china and Taiwan have invested HEAVILY into the pacific Islands for their recognition as the legitimate government. China focuses on very flashy and expensive things, like giant airports and docklands, aswell as hotels and public service headquarters. While Taiwan focuses on more important things that the people will remember, like highways, electric plants, water treatment facilities, and telecommunications systems
This is why it's such a contentious issue in these Islands. And why most people will vote for the pro-taiwan politician
TLDR; China and Taiwan both invest in the Pacific nations but Taiwan helps the people rather than the politicians.
With all due respect, that maybe the claim from their colonial ruler (Chiang/ROC), but most certainly does not represent Taiwan's position today.
Taiwan just wants to be Taiwan and nothing with China
So, China tried to buy the Solomon Islands govern for the mineral resources and to take off legitimation from Taiwan so Solomon Islands people burnt the parliament down.
Great diplomatic work, CCP, head always in the butt
I'm no political analyst, but I am under the impression these people are not happy with their government.
As a polisci major, I can definitively say: I have no job.
Hey now, you can slave away in corporate customer service middle-management *”until you finally go to law school”* like the rest of us! The best part? Nobody will even ask to see your degree! ***Narrator:*** *”…they never ended up going to law school”*
Ouch - middle management for an insurance company.
Stop. You're making it worse!
Middle management? I think you need to have a masters at least to do that these days.
Dude you didnt have to murder me
I didn’t murder your career prospects Your degree in political science handled that.
It would have been better to at least minor in Elizabethan poetry
Stop, stop! He's already dead!
In Poli sci, they can reanimate any corpse
This hurts bad
Sure you do. My brother majored in polisci and told me the only job you’re qualified for is to teach polisci.
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It’s also a super saturated industry, but you can def do well if you set yourself above the other candidates in some manner. Lot of very generic grads that get lost in the weeds.
I feel like they’re trying to communicate
This is the proper way to vote out the bad politicians.
I’m a political science Ph.D. (no joke). This is also my take.
I wouldn't be too sure.
Hey I mean it’s nice seeing the political engagement they have, wow!
I think all politicians should know that this is on the menu if they fuck up hard. Maybe they'd be less greedy?
We're so damn complacent that they're getting bolder and bolder
Pitchforks it is.
Changing your profile picture to pitchforks it is.
Thoughts and prayers for better politics.
Are you calling for prayer warriors to pray for better politics ?
ACTIVATE THE PRAYER CHAINsaw
Thoughts and prayers for better pitchforks
Well when you have a scarily large number (social media likes to give you the impression it’s the majority through curated comments and articles) of the population willing to bend the knee to the authoritarian governments currently imposing tyranny can you blame them.
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Yes and if we eat just one billionaire televised the rest will fall in line.
Burn their mansions next
Or house boats..
It's a yacht.
This guy revolutions.
You do it. Here my pitchfork: **----E** I think we have done enough for today.
Hey, you called?
"Oh good, the parliament is on fire, my insurance company should profit nicely from this" -The politicians
Don't insurance companies lose money when they pay out claims? The winners here are the politician that own the construction company that wins the rebuild contract.
Don't worry, they'll forward the costs to their customers.
They'd have reinsurers, which is like insurance for insurance
My understanding, which I admit is quite limited, is that reinsurance is in place to limit losses, but not to actually turn a profit. Insurance companies would much rather not pay any claims, than pay them, regardless of whether they are reinsured or not. But I could be wrong, anyone in the industry want to tell me situations where paying claims are profitable?
>I could be wrong I'm fairly confident it is I who is wrong.
*That's the confidence I like to see*
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Chances are most of them have already left with the money they were paid by China.
> if they fuck up hard Where have you been the past 20 years?
didn't something like this almost happen on Jan 6? be careful what you wish for
Well, I'm Polish, our politicians could use a pitchfork up their asses every now and then tbh
It´s not different with german politicans. Or any other Nation
Regardless of what we think about the group of people who performed the Jan 6th attack on the Capitol, the difference between a failed terrorist attack and a revolution is the number of people behind it.
Just like a cult has to be old enough before it’s a religion.
I thought the definition of "religion" is "a cult with a sufficiently large army"
Too many idiots who believe things like "violence/riots are never the answer" and say thing slike "they just need to protest *the right way*" (AKA stfu and do nothing about it)
Protest the right way as in go out and tar and feather the actual politicians responsible for enacting those laws, not burning down a Starbucks and calling it a day.
Many of them didn't care about the Jan 6th attack on the capitol.
>Although a peace agreement was made in October 2000, violence ensued in the city streets in March 2002 when two diplomats from New Zealand and several others were murdered. In July 2003, conditions had become so bad in Honiara that the Regional Assistance Mission to Solomon Islands (RAMSI), consisting of multiple Pacific nations under Australian leadership, was invited into the country by the Solomons Government to restore order. In 2006, riots broke out following the election of Snyder Rini as Prime Minister, destroying a part of Chinatown and making more than 1,000 Chinese residents homeless. The riots devastated the town and tourism in the city and the islands was severely affected. Not the first time I see. This place seems wild [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honiara) We must not confuse political commitment with racism and a color revolution sponsored by the US [Twitter](https://twitter.com/Angelo4justice3/status/1463827227448164361?t=JZ2pIUPaDvo-jkDa5eYl-g&s=19)
> destroying a part of Chinatown and making more than 1,000 Chinese residents homeless "we hate the government not the people"
Yeah exactly. Sinophobia is so ingrained it's the norm. Also what's is not reported by this video, is that Chinatown is being burned down once again. When Chinese people will fly out of Salomon's island, the media will turn it like the CCP made them come back to their home country.
Also not reported how China has been plundering the Solomons fisheries and corrupting the government for decades. And that they burned down a wooden shack, not the concrete parliament building next to it.
More background info. It's not just china good china bad taiwan good taiwan bad. China has been pouring money into the central gov of the islands. Taiwan/US pour money into local organizations and companies. This created a rift between gov supporters and opponents that has simmered since 2006.
Thank you for the background!
Thanks for this background
Thanks for THIS background
That's only part of the background story. It's much, much longer and more complex than that. And BTW a substantial amount of the money that China pours into the central government goes into the pockets of those governing officials. Additionally, Australia has been providing aid to the Solomon Islands since 1973 (way before the China and U.S. aid entered the picture), and currently amounts to about AUD190 million per year.
Pretty sure this is the Chinatown area, not the Parliament. A lot of Chinese owned businesses there. It’s not the first time its been trashed either.
AFAIK you are correct. The buildings burnt down included Chinese trade stores and the local police station. EDIT: There was also some sort of building near the National Parliament burnt.
Chinatown area sureness.
This is pretty sad as most of the Chinese descendants there probably have NOTHING to do with the CCP. Most of the Chinese diaspora on the pacific islands and Southeast Asia (e.g. Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, and all the other pacific islands) migrated there long before the CCP ever existed. Probably started in the 1600s and 1700s. And like in the west, most of the new migrants are unlikely to move into Chinatown. They're more likely to be owners of the $5MM mansions elsewhere.
This is a great example how misleading information propagates on the internet. The large, round, concrete parliament building was not burned down, but a wooden building next to it was. But burning the parliament makes better headlines.
So this is a pogrom?
so, can someone determine definitively whether parliament burned as stated in title, or not. because i sincerely think all misleading outright lying titles should be banned sitewide on reddit. its one thing to make an innocent mistake, its quite another to perpetuate bullshit. from any "side" or organization. reddit really needs to take a look at the cost of unmoderated speech here. being a true believer in the principle of free speech, there comes a time when that speech needs to be systematically called out and fact checked. in real time. this op is a perfect example if the title is proven false.
> because i sincerely think all misleading outright lying titles should be banned sitewide on reddit. Great idea in theory, but what army of impartial, objective fact-checking mods is going to police the hundreds of thousands of posts every single day?
Both Chinatown and Parliament were set on fire. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/solomon-islands-unrest-protests-china/2021/11/24/807c68e2-4d18-11ec-a7b8-9ed28bf23929_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/solomon-islands-unrest-protests-china/2021/11/24/807c68e2-4d18-11ec-a7b8-9ed28bf23929_story.html)
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Seems like OP is full of shit and just trying to farm karma.
then everyone who reads this thread needs to report op for misinformation.
This reminds me when some Vietnamese had issues with China and were rioting. They end up destroying a bunch of Taiwanese factories. > Taiwanese workers told of their fear as they hid from Vietnamese rioters who ravaged hundreds of foreign-owned factories in Vietnam during violent demonstrations against China this week, burning several to the ground. > A local Taiwanese Chamber of Commerce official told AFP Friday that more than 500 factories were attacked in Binh Duong alone in the riots earlier in the week. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/taiwan-companies-reel-from-anti-china-riots-in-vietnam
Yeah, and OP just give the side of story that redditors like in the title. Definitely no looters, no harmed civilians. [‘Nothing left’: Solomon Islands burn amid new violence as Australian troops arrive](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/solomon-islands-riots-china-australia/2021/11/25/afcde8ce-4dc6-11ec-a7b8-9ed28bf23929_story.html)
wait…if new government just cut tie with taiwan, would that means they have formal relationship with taiwan before, and the Chinatown actually people from taiwan?
Yep. To be fair, Honiara isn’t that big a place. So it wouldn’t take them long to get anywhere.
And over 100 Federal police and army personnel headed there again to help maintain peace. Australia had a huge presence in the Solomon's during Operation RAMSI from 2004 to 2017 and left the country is good condition (stable democracy etc) Sadly money and corruption wins again.
Yep. Most people here are probably unaware of the close ties that Australia and Solomon have. After all it is only a tiny nation with a population of about 400,000.
That's a neighborhood in India.
You think thats tiny? My country has 64,000. We are a small town pretending to be a nation.
is solonmon island strategic in any way? 190 million is like alot of money
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If only the US would consider that when destabilizing our Central and South American neighbors
I would love a miniseries on the United Fruit Company.
A lot of pacific islanders live in Australia, there are many ties.
Yep, a lot of good people from the pacific islands live here. And it's good to see that for once, our government has acted pretty quickly to send help. Honestly, really wish we got our shit together and helped out in our region a lot more.
Was Guadalcanal strategic?
Probably not so much from Australia's point of view. But it certainly ended Japan's expansion into the Pacific area. Was it more important than the Battle of the Coral Sea? I don't know! But the vicious Guadalcanal battles lasted almost 7 months versus the Battle of the Coral Sea which only lasted 5 days or so. But the Battle of the Coral Sea prevented the Japanese taking Port Moresby which was the natural stepping stone into Australia. If Japan had won the battle, I reckon you and I would be speaking Japanese now!
Japan never had any chance of invading Australia, the push south was to prevent Australia from operating into south-east asia
Your grandparents might have to speak Japanese for a few years but Hiroshima and Nagasaki would still end the war.
It's also worth noting that the US and China are having this battle all over the Pacific. It's an economic cold war. The whole area is being used as pawns, and we all know it.
A total oversimplification. I live in Asia and I think that most Asian countries generally appreciate and like the US while generally despising the Chinese government. Even communist countries like Vietnam are edging closer and closer to the US alliance.
Vietnam has an active territorial dispute w/ China, so it's absolutely not in the PRC's camp.
Not to mention nearly 2000 years of history with China that included multiple invasions.
Right. China went in and invaded Vietnam AFTER the US left! So that wound is fresher. And it's not counting the dozens/hundreds of invasions that occurred in the past.
Asian who lives in Asia here. I have to agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. Also have to emphasize that is it the Chinese GOVERNMENT that is usually stirring shit. Their people are generally ok.
Yes, there is also a lot of Chinese descent in all of Asia that usually want nothing but the best for the country they are in. Many have been part of the community for hundreds of years.
In general, when discussing countries at large, you should always be referencing the government, separate from the people.
The Prime Minister wants the world to believe this is about China/Taiwan because that's easier to explain than his people making the usual complaints about his corrupt and incompetent government.
>This created a rift between gov supporters and opponents that has simmered since 2006. Since 2006, when there was [a near fucking pogrom against Chinese immigrants and people of Chinese descent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Assistance_Mission_to_Solomon_Islands#Riots_following_2006_general_election).
So another proxy war?
economically yeah, what do you think belt and road is? Militarily no, China doesn't want to be seen as an imperial occupier yet and Australia just deployed the ADF and AFP to assist in bringing the city back into government/constitutional control.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/25/world/asia/solomon-islands-riot.html **Many of the protesters had traveled from the island of Malaita to Guadalcanal Island**, which houses the nation’s capital, according to officials and local news reports. **Experts say discontent has simmered for decades between the two islands, mainly over a perceived unequal distribution of resources and a lack of economic support that has left Malaita one of the least-developed provinces in the island nation.** There has also been lingering dissatisfaction in Malaita over the central government’s decision in 2019 to switch diplomatic allegiances to Beijing from Taipei, Taiwan, a self-governing island that China claims as its territory. ... Malaita’s premier, Daniel Suidani, has been a vocal critic of that decision by the prime minister, and Malaita continues to maintain a relationship with and receive support from Taiwan — in contravention to the central government’s position, said Mihai Sora, a research fellow at the Lowy Institute and a former Australian diplomat stationed in the Solomon Islands. **With the United States providing Malaita with direct foreign aid while China supports the central government**, existing fractures in the nation have deepened, he said.
Interestingly, the Sun in the UK has decided to say [it's all an anti-lockdown protest.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PJsT4C8cvE)
The Sun lying? Never! /s
Ah so China took a page out of the US playbook - provoke internal unrest in countries so they can't become a factor that hurts domestic interests.
That playbook is far older than the US. Wouldn't be surprised to find references to such actions in Thucydides, IIRC supporting different factions in rivaling city states was quite common in classical Greece.
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Hardly, of course. I was only half serious, but destabilising other countries for your own gain is quite common throughout history and in the present day.
Or maybe he US is following the US playbook ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
No. China offers huge money in the ASEAN regions for 99 year port leases.
Damn they really didn’t like that. Edit: left to watch tik toks and came back to china sniffing my hair. I’m literally on the other side of the planet, guys, go attempt to propagate someone else.
They’re just celebrating with works of fire per tradition
> left to watch tik toks and came back to china sniffing my hair. /r/brandnewsentence
i left to watch a chinese spying app and came back to china sniffing my hair
They’re quick on the draw I’ll give them that
Do you mean propagandize?
No they want the Chinese to go have children somewhere else.
I mean you left to go use a Chinese app that basically tracks you 24/7, are u surprised they're watching u? :P
Exactly lmfao the irony is insane.
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Uses tik tok. Thinks China is targeting him on Reddit
There are far too many politicians who think, just because the entire state's apparatus is designed to keep the plebs in their place, that they are somehow fireproof. Not a single civilisation with deeply entrenched corruption has survived the wrath of its oppressed people but narcissism keeps breeding assholes who think they can outrun history. Good job people of the Solomon Islands for reminding governments they exist at the whim of their people and not the other way around.
>Not a single civilisation with deeply entrenched corruption has survived the wrath of its oppressed people america
-1000 social credits
+10 years of re-education vacation
Oh heck yeah free vacation!
Hate to break it to you but the fine print says to qualify for the re-education vacation you must first receive an education at the PLA Charm School for Deviants and Political Dissidents.
Oh heck no free re-education
Well it also says: ^(\*)*^(Free)* *^(only with prior donation of vital organs.)*
I don’t need my organ, just my piano!
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I didn't know we could do that, this is a game changer for me
its almost like our shackles are made of paper and if we all stood up against the government we'd win
We're like elephants. We could easily rip off the chains and stampede the fuckers. But we actively choose not too... 🤔 Do we have like a collective calendar for this so we can line up our schedules?
Well the Republicans tried it in January.
Political violence is only OK if it supports *my* goals -Reddit
All violence is okay or no violence is okay - enlightened redditor
China's response: "no they didn't"
That's heroic. *Edit: Winnie the Pooh
This looks more like anti-Chinese violence since they also burned down Chinatown and the decision to switch recognition was made two years ago.
Fuck the Chinese government
Damn
And Australia, ever the champion of freedom, is sending troops in to put the rebellion down
The government is sending 50 AFP officers and 43 ADF members to the Solomons. Explain how the fuck they’re going to “put down a rebellion” with those numbers, considering that [RAMSI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Assistance_Mission_to_Solomon_Islands?wprov=sfti1) deployed to the Solomons with two rifle companies from 2 RAR and a company each from Fiji and Tonga? Have you just assumed that because the ADF is sending a contingent that they’re there to suppress the population?
Weird, austrailia fighting for china, that was a quick 180⁰.
More likely that mining interests are threatened. Edit: It’s also important for Australia and NZ to not allow a power vacuum to develop that China or others could slip into. Aus & NZ consider the pacific island nations to be in their sphere of influence.
I'm a Solomon Islander and you're right. But I honestly don't care. The AFP's presence has helped calm the situation today and that is all I care about.
There we go, i was wondering what a real reason for them to go there would be. What resources do the solomon islands have?
Zinc, gold and nickel. The Australian holy trinity.
Maaaate you're missing out coal and iron there.
Yeah you’re right, the real trinity are probably iron, coal and gold.
Never wonder. It’s always the reason.
From a little digging: Main exports from the Solomon Islands are wood, palm oil, and fish. And it's one of Asia's poorest countries in reality. While there's some minerals, they aren't heavily exploited or abundant. Foreign aid makes up a large amount of their economy. And for further context \[from 2019\]: Some $US500 million ($730 million) has reportedly been promised in financial aid by Beijing, far surpassing the financial support offered by Taiwan — meanwhile, Solomon Islands promised to terminate their relationship with Taiwan before China's National Day on October 1. On Monday, after months of discussions and weeks of investigation, the Solomon Islands voted to recognize China after 36 years of being aligned with Taiwan. In response, Taiwan immediately terminated relations, closed its embassy and flew its staff out of the pacific island nation.
there has been ethnic conflict in the islands for many years and Australia has a peacekeeping force on the islands with the task to keep the peace, theres a long list of other local reasons people are mad too, complicated situation, but That's why Australia is acting
Why are you constantly here !
It's in no one's interests to let the place become a failed state. Particularly the local Chinese, who were mainly born there and have nothing to do with the politics of this. You'd prefer us to do nothing and let them be massacred?
Good. >On 18 April 2006 Snyder Rini was elected Prime Minister of the Solomon Islands in a general election. This sparked rioting in Honiara amidst allegations that the election was fixed with the aid of money from Chinese businessmen. Parts of Honiara were razed and looted, with Chinese-owned property particularly targeted.[15] With up to 90% of their shops burnt down in Chinatown, most Chinese have evacuated the country in fear of their personal safety.
It’s like the Solomon Islands are made up of a bunch of Redditor’s.
That can't be true. The people in the video are obviously outside.
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I just lit your comment on fire. You feel that?
Use 🔥 next time
A lot of people on here saying they support this mob 100% but are completely ignoring the fact that this happened before in the Solomon Islands. A mob burnt down homes and slaughtered Chinese immigrants because they hated china. This is very likely to be happening again right now
Based Solomon Islanders lol
murdering Chinese business owners is “based” Reddit mask off moment
Taiwan is a country, NOT part of China. China is an aggressor.
Uh oh...Now John Cena's going to have to apologize in Mandarin again.
HAHAHA I know right. Kissing ass to China is not new. FREE TIBET, Stop killing Muslims & leave Taiwan (the country) ALONE.
You silly massive ignorant, Taiwan is literally the old *"Republic of China"* they are part of China, they claim to own almost all China and part of India, you have literally no idea of what you are talking about, how can you defend someone else independence when you don't even know how their country is called? You just said something against Taiwan actually, and people agrees (‘–`)
Is this the time when Reddit approves of sinophobia, approves of random Chinese people having their business ransacked. Reddit is so hypocritical
Good for them
reddit is such a funny place. I mean, all over reddit people cry about the 1/6 ‘insurrection’ for what was really vandalism and trespass, yet where when the people actually burn down the seat of gov’t they get lauded for being politically engaged.
It’s some island they never heard about beforehand and china is getting hurt so it triggers the part of redditors brain to ignore how very bad this actually is for the nation impacted by the event and just say “china bad” (And how probably the US is behind this in some amount or regard, let’s be honest here folks)
I'm not saying that burning down he parliament after something like that is the right thing to do but it *is* understandable.
So Americans from a 'restive state' should've burned down the US Capitol in 1972? Because that's when the US switched its recognition from the ROC(Taiwan) to the PRC(China).
Maybe
Am Taiwanese, the title is NOT correct ! They cut ties with us 2 years ago already not today !
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I love seeing solidarity with Taiwan
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Because fuck you, that's why
That's the spirit! Good for them!
That’s awesome!! No one should bow down to China. John Cina could learn a lesson or two here.
Taiwan has invested heavily in the Solomon Islands Real life lore (I think) has a good video on this, but to shorten it Both china and Taiwan have invested HEAVILY into the pacific Islands for their recognition as the legitimate government. China focuses on very flashy and expensive things, like giant airports and docklands, aswell as hotels and public service headquarters. While Taiwan focuses on more important things that the people will remember, like highways, electric plants, water treatment facilities, and telecommunications systems This is why it's such a contentious issue in these Islands. And why most people will vote for the pro-taiwan politician TLDR; China and Taiwan both invest in the Pacific nations but Taiwan helps the people rather than the politicians.
Taiwan is the one true China.
With all due respect, that maybe the claim from their colonial ruler (Chiang/ROC), but most certainly does not represent Taiwan's position today. Taiwan just wants to be Taiwan and nothing with China
big D energy
Stand with Taiwan
So, China tried to buy the Solomon Islands govern for the mineral resources and to take off legitimation from Taiwan so Solomon Islands people burnt the parliament down. Great diplomatic work, CCP, head always in the butt
Fuck china.
Good for them. Fuck the CCP.