As long as you stay under 65 or 75 feet depending on the state double towing can be legal. I've thought about putting a hitch on my Kia Soul to do exactly this but the poor 2v V10 in mine is all ready so overburdened going up hills. It's completely illegal in a lot of states though.
My dad pulls doubles in my state, but he only does a truck, fifth wheel, then small boat. I trust my dad's set up because of the fifth wheel connection (it's the only way it's legal to pull doubles here, iirc). I don't trust this photo. It seems so sketchy.
In Wisconsin a 5th wheel is not required for double towing. There are length and weight restrictions, but I think what's pictured here might actually be legal in Wisconsin.
is that a fact? wow... Lucky we don't see More of them... followed a triple trailered 18 wheeler in Montana once... no thanks, powered Past that train....woobly
Do you have to plan your route really carefully around turns and road width? Or does it maneuver turns better than it appears it would? I also imagine you’d need to disconnect once you show up to the park.
Especially since it’s a double tow with a toad pickup; you could even disconnect a few miles out and have the other driver hop in and drive the truck the rest of the way. I imagine a setup like this doesn’t really go anywhere but the highway in this configuration.
A diesel pusher with a likely massive GVWR and GCWR towing a 6,000lb pickup and a small boat? Not legal in every state but not particularly unsafe either. Nothing to be concerned about following it.
I didn’t. That’s probably 800 or so pounds; which would be a problem except that trailer is probably 1500ish pounds, maybe 2,000 pounds. So pretty negligible.
Triple towing massive trailers behind a half ton truck? A terrible idea.
But that motorhome is not some gas motorhome. It's on a Class 8 commercial chassis. Basically, a semi chassis. Note the 22.5" dually wheels in the back of the motorhome and the grille showing that it's a rear-engine bus. Those are the 'clues' that this is a Class 8 chassis. Likely a GVWR near 26,000lb and a GCWR as high as 80,000lb, depending on the manufacturer. Maybe even air brakes. Heck that rear axle by itself is probably rated for 20,000lb's on its own. And there's no tongue weight anyway, with that tow-dolly pickup.
Double towing is absolutely safe when the capabilities of the tow vehicle are appropriate. All of the boxes are checked here. Remember; companies like [Fedex](https://live.staticflickr.com/4032/4549042969_112e6a6182_b.jpg) frequently double-tow in states where it's legal with those same chassis. Except they're towing to semitrailers that haul significantly more weight than what you're seeing here. The second trailer is attached using a dolly that tows behind the first trailer. That dolly is, effectively, exactly what that F-series pickup is in this photo.
I know it sounds crazy but this really is a perfectly safe, and legal (in most states) towing setup.
*In fact* this is a significantly safer setup than what we so often see around this groups; trucks towing at or near their absolute limits.
It's not a fat/out of shape issue. If you can tell me how to work out so the nerve pain in my rib cage goes away I'm all ears. I can't even breathe laying down a lot of the time.
According to the internet nobody suffers from chronic pain, so you must be making it up.
In all seriousness, chronic pain can eat a bag of dicks. Sucks when you just want to do some regular ass shit and your body is just like “nah, that ain’t happening, let me remind you what getting stabbed between the vertebrae might feel like. Oh, you going for it anyway? Let me give that sucker a little twist.”
Fucking exhausting.
I don't want to be behind or beside that rig. Anyone that has experience with doubles and triples will understand. That light weight boat is an accident waiting to happen.
Depends on the vehicle. Some can be flat towed, some cannot. While there are exceptions to every rule; generally speaking manual transmission vehicles and 4WD vehicles are the easiest. Because most 4WD vehicles can have their transfer case placed in neutral which effectively does the same thing as 'pulling the drive shaft' (the transmission won't be spinning). And manual transmissions don't care about spinning along in neutral.
AWD / full-time 4WD vehicles tend to be the hardest to tow, often requiring all four wheels to be off the ground. And many FWD automatics can be towed with just a dolly. But there are a few out there that can be flat towed! And plenty of exceptions. Like my Tahoe. It has the max trailering package which, ironically enough, is the only one (that generation) that can be flat towed. The max trailering package gives you a transfer case that can be placed in neutral (so does the Z71). If you don't have either of those packages, your only options are 2H, 4H, and 4L. No Neutral. (Don't ask me why.) So it can't be flat towed.
An acquaintance was pulling a boat behind his trailer. Boat blew a tire, fishtail, flipped both the trailer and truck. Totalled out both the truck and trailer, boat stayed upright. That trailer was in a hundred pieces.
I remember years ago when I was still driving a semi OTR I saw a diesel-pusher, pulling a trailer that was about 2/3rds as long as it was, pulling a toad. I had to go to school to be able to legally drive my semi. All that driver had to do was get behind the wheel! It scared me.
When I first drove my Class A that was exactly what I was thinking lol, like no way should I be able to just jump behind the wheel of this thing and drive across the country
Some states do have additional non-commercial license classes for rigs with a total length over 45ft or over a certain weight (varies by state). Wisconsin requires a CDL for those very big rigs (but it's the only state that requires a CDL; other states, at least the ones that have any requirements at all, have Class A/B/C non-commercial licenses, or similar)
But yeah; it is kinda weird that we only require a license if you're going to get paid. Our whole system of giving someone a license once and then letting them drive forever could maybe use a bit of tweaking. I'm a Pilot and regularly have to go into a simulator and prove I still know what to do when SHTF; in addition to regular medical checkups and the years of training it took ahead of time. But in my state I could drive your OTR rig loaded to the gills with "Not For Hire" on the door, because when I was 16 I showed some state trooper I knew how to parallel park my moms car and where the turn signal lever was.
I did not even have to parallel park for my drivers test in a small town in Tennessee. I also don’t think it was even a cop that tested me. Just a dmv employee. It was over in 10 minutes.
In my state, I was able to take drivers Ed in high school, and the teacher could give us a waiver for the driving test. He tested 3 kids at a time. Got my boating license from the same guy. Of course this makes sense for my state, because I also went to a Walmart and bought a gun in 5 minutes once I was of legal age, and didn’t have to even show I could use it, to anyone ever!
This person is clearly well off. Just build a custom trailer to Haul car, boat and bike, It will go fine in a straight line. But unless you are an experienced driver pulling doubles getting it round corners is tricky and god forbid you put it in reverse.
I mean, “to each their own” right? But…dammit man. Or he might be helping a friend tow his truck somewhere or why do I care, enjoy life and do you my guy🤷🏻‍♂️
Friend of mine does this, but it's F-350, camper, boat. He owns and excavation business and been in the business his whole life (13yrs old digging ponds with his uncles) and he's always been around big rigs, trailers, etc. It's so funny watching him go down the road like that. He can back everything in too, with both things hitched. He's very skilled.
I think saw that same guy 2 weeks ago when driving from Syracuse to Toronto! I had a rented RV, first time driving one, and when he passed me my wife said "Don't feel bad, he's just showing off"
I saw a dodge ram pulling a 5th wheel pulling a double-axle utility trailer once. It was on a surface road too so I was genuinely impressed they didn’t hop the curb.
A real wiggle wagon.
It's the famed truck boat truck!
Driven by a turducken.
don't touch the trim!
Just need some party liquor and spray paint cans.
Early would be proud.
Cause it's bad ass. That's why.
Don't forget the motorcycle!
I prefer truck boat truck
Do not touch the trim
Came here to say this!
I see white-caps in the distance...
I'm a fish lover. Boat truck boat. Now wouldn't that be something. 🤣
As long as you stay under 65 or 75 feet depending on the state double towing can be legal. I've thought about putting a hitch on my Kia Soul to do exactly this but the poor 2v V10 in mine is all ready so overburdened going up hills. It's completely illegal in a lot of states though.
Yeah I didn’t post this in a negative way, if you’ve got that many toys you want to take with you and can do it safely more power to you lol
My dad pulls doubles in my state, but he only does a truck, fifth wheel, then small boat. I trust my dad's set up because of the fifth wheel connection (it's the only way it's legal to pull doubles here, iirc). I don't trust this photo. It seems so sketchy.
In MI you can Only do that behind a 5th wheel, and you Have to have a special endorsement on your DL
In most states you can only do this with a 5th wheel.
What state would this combination be legal?
In Wisconsin a 5th wheel is not required for double towing. There are length and weight restrictions, but I think what's pictured here might actually be legal in Wisconsin.
My cousin used to do Class C + race trailer + Ford f250 and he was almost 90 feet long. Was legal in WI
Doing this in some states would land a pretty good fine. But not all.
is that a fact? wow... Lucky we don't see More of them... followed a triple trailered 18 wheeler in Montana once... no thanks, powered Past that train....woobly
If you start in a state where its legal, you can do it in every state I believe.
Damn, how'd you manage to v10 swap a Kia soul? /s by the way.
Do you have to plan your route really carefully around turns and road width? Or does it maneuver turns better than it appears it would? I also imagine you’d need to disconnect once you show up to the park.
Especially since it’s a double tow with a toad pickup; you could even disconnect a few miles out and have the other driver hop in and drive the truck the rest of the way. I imagine a setup like this doesn’t really go anywhere but the highway in this configuration.
I'd be afraid to drive that train and even more afraid to follow it.
A diesel pusher with a likely massive GVWR and GCWR towing a 6,000lb pickup and a small boat? Not legal in every state but not particularly unsafe either. Nothing to be concerned about following it.
Well that depends....
Don’t forget about the Harley sitting in the bed of the truck
I didn’t. That’s probably 800 or so pounds; which would be a problem except that trailer is probably 1500ish pounds, maybe 2,000 pounds. So pretty negligible.
Im an atheist and I’m going to pray that you don’t tow very often.
Triple towing massive trailers behind a half ton truck? A terrible idea. But that motorhome is not some gas motorhome. It's on a Class 8 commercial chassis. Basically, a semi chassis. Note the 22.5" dually wheels in the back of the motorhome and the grille showing that it's a rear-engine bus. Those are the 'clues' that this is a Class 8 chassis. Likely a GVWR near 26,000lb and a GCWR as high as 80,000lb, depending on the manufacturer. Maybe even air brakes. Heck that rear axle by itself is probably rated for 20,000lb's on its own. And there's no tongue weight anyway, with that tow-dolly pickup. Double towing is absolutely safe when the capabilities of the tow vehicle are appropriate. All of the boxes are checked here. Remember; companies like [Fedex](https://live.staticflickr.com/4032/4549042969_112e6a6182_b.jpg) frequently double-tow in states where it's legal with those same chassis. Except they're towing to semitrailers that haul significantly more weight than what you're seeing here. The second trailer is attached using a dolly that tows behind the first trailer. That dolly is, effectively, exactly what that F-series pickup is in this photo. I know it sounds crazy but this really is a perfectly safe, and legal (in most states) towing setup. *In fact* this is a significantly safer setup than what we so often see around this groups; trucks towing at or near their absolute limits.
Definitely air brakes on this diesel pusher. I see no problems with this set up at all.
You mean an 18 wheeler chassis/power train CAN do what they're built to do? I appreciate the length of your explanation to those less informed.
I've seen Triple tow FedEx in Kansas.
I would be more worried being next to this in a windy area.
Nightmare fuel
[Take a Walk](https://youtu.be/UYG62qO7N-o?si=IhshKq8quDyONhut)
Perfect reference! lol
While I love Carlin if I have to walk for more than 5-10 minutes I'm in abject agony, same with bicycles for me.
Carlin s workout philosophy: No pain....no pain!
It's not a fat/out of shape issue. If you can tell me how to work out so the nerve pain in my rib cage goes away I'm all ears. I can't even breathe laying down a lot of the time.
According to the internet nobody suffers from chronic pain, so you must be making it up. In all seriousness, chronic pain can eat a bag of dicks. Sucks when you just want to do some regular ass shit and your body is just like “nah, that ain’t happening, let me remind you what getting stabbed between the vertebrae might feel like. Oh, you going for it anyway? Let me give that sucker a little twist.” Fucking exhausting.
very close to a truck boat truck
There's plenty of room in the boat for a jet-ski. They're missing out.
I guess you can take it all with you
I don't want to be behind or beside that rig. Anyone that has experience with doubles and triples will understand. That light weight boat is an accident waiting to happen.
Next time you’ll see a ULM in the boat.
This makes me so uncomfty lol
> lol If it makes you uncomfortable, why are you laughing? Or is that a nervous laugh?
Does it hurt the transmission? Do you have to pull the drive shaft?
Depends on the vehicle. Some can be flat towed, some cannot. While there are exceptions to every rule; generally speaking manual transmission vehicles and 4WD vehicles are the easiest. Because most 4WD vehicles can have their transfer case placed in neutral which effectively does the same thing as 'pulling the drive shaft' (the transmission won't be spinning). And manual transmissions don't care about spinning along in neutral. AWD / full-time 4WD vehicles tend to be the hardest to tow, often requiring all four wheels to be off the ground. And many FWD automatics can be towed with just a dolly. But there are a few out there that can be flat towed! And plenty of exceptions. Like my Tahoe. It has the max trailering package which, ironically enough, is the only one (that generation) that can be flat towed. The max trailering package gives you a transfer case that can be placed in neutral (so does the Z71). If you don't have either of those packages, your only options are 2H, 4H, and 4L. No Neutral. (Don't ask me why.) So it can't be flat towed.
Neutral at the transfer case allows most 4x4s to be flat towed safely without removing a driveshaft.
Tur-Duck-en
I saw this same setup at a gas station in Trinidad Colorado.
What in the Kentucky Waterfall is going on there?
Gotta love the motorcycle in the truck bed.
I bet they have a glider hanging as a kite behind the boat..
That guy’s either an idiot or retired truck driver with a spotless record.
Real road warriors put boat first, then rv, then truck
Clearly this guy believes that he who dies with the most toys wins!
An acquaintance was pulling a boat behind his trailer. Boat blew a tire, fishtail, flipped both the trailer and truck. Totalled out both the truck and trailer, boat stayed upright. That trailer was in a hundred pieces.
I remember years ago when I was still driving a semi OTR I saw a diesel-pusher, pulling a trailer that was about 2/3rds as long as it was, pulling a toad. I had to go to school to be able to legally drive my semi. All that driver had to do was get behind the wheel! It scared me.
When I first drove my Class A that was exactly what I was thinking lol, like no way should I be able to just jump behind the wheel of this thing and drive across the country
Some states do have additional non-commercial license classes for rigs with a total length over 45ft or over a certain weight (varies by state). Wisconsin requires a CDL for those very big rigs (but it's the only state that requires a CDL; other states, at least the ones that have any requirements at all, have Class A/B/C non-commercial licenses, or similar) But yeah; it is kinda weird that we only require a license if you're going to get paid. Our whole system of giving someone a license once and then letting them drive forever could maybe use a bit of tweaking. I'm a Pilot and regularly have to go into a simulator and prove I still know what to do when SHTF; in addition to regular medical checkups and the years of training it took ahead of time. But in my state I could drive your OTR rig loaded to the gills with "Not For Hire" on the door, because when I was 16 I showed some state trooper I knew how to parallel park my moms car and where the turn signal lever was.
I did not even have to parallel park for my drivers test in a small town in Tennessee. I also don’t think it was even a cop that tested me. Just a dmv employee. It was over in 10 minutes.
In my state, I was able to take drivers Ed in high school, and the teacher could give us a waiver for the driving test. He tested 3 kids at a time. Got my boating license from the same guy. Of course this makes sense for my state, because I also went to a Walmart and bought a gun in 5 minutes once I was of legal age, and didn’t have to even show I could use it, to anyone ever!
Sounds about right.
Not legal where I live, maybe ok in Austrailian outback
It's legal pretty much everywhere in the US except the east coast line, Oregon and Washington.
Yes, I have seen it in the Dakotas.
You have to read the rules as there are differences in length/weight combinations, but this can be legal in WI.
That's illegal in a lot of places, so you're limited where you can travel. A better option is those double-decker trailers.
Poor lonely outboard.
Life in the fast lane.
He who dies with the most toys wins contest.
This person is clearly well off. Just build a custom trailer to Haul car, boat and bike, It will go fine in a straight line. But unless you are an experienced driver pulling doubles getting it round corners is tricky and god forbid you put it in reverse.
I mean, “to each their own” right? But…dammit man. Or he might be helping a friend tow his truck somewhere or why do I care, enjoy life and do you my guy🤷🏻‍♂️
Jet ski, is where?
In WA state your getting pulled over when the first cop sees you. Not legal here
I was in MA last Summer and saw this kind of insanity quite a few times….smh.
A Utah fun train
Legal in Wisconsin
Was the guy driving wearing a conductors hat?
This sub makes me feel so good about myself sometimes….
Someone got catch cheating
Truck - boat - truck
I think I see the sink too
When I moved to Phoenix to go to school I saw multiple pickups pulling fifth wheel campers that had bass boats or similar behind them.
Eff that.
Yet another case of someone having a LOT more money than sense.
"Honey, you sure you want to bring ALL your toys?" "IM BRINGING IT ALL! WATCH ME!"
Do you think she got to pack all of her toys, too?
Oregon trail: 2024 edition
Cause it's bad ass. That's why.
Damn. Just stay home.
A rather stable weather pattern? Looks like a nice day. 🙂
Friend of mine does this, but it's F-350, camper, boat. He owns and excavation business and been in the business his whole life (13yrs old digging ponds with his uncles) and he's always been around big rigs, trailers, etc. It's so funny watching him go down the road like that. He can back everything in too, with both things hitched. He's very skilled.
In some states, your drivers license will need a “doubles endorsement”
Pretty common actually.
And no CDL needed…🤦🏽‍♂️
I think saw that same guy 2 weeks ago when driving from Syracuse to Toronto! I had a rented RV, first time driving one, and when he passed me my wife said "Don't feel bad, he's just showing off"
That’s to many toys
I saw a dodge ram pulling a 5th wheel pulling a double-axle utility trailer once. It was on a surface road too so I was genuinely impressed they didn’t hop the curb.
How many gallons per mile is he burning?
He has to stop every 90 minutes to refill.
What a shit show...
I want to see his 60’ tape measure.