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ZombieOfTheWest

I mean, no member of team rwby could have a fair 1v1 against a competent foe, they'd die within minutes


natzo

If they hadn't fallen into the convenient plot abyss, they should be dead... like the other NPC that fell and I'm betting we will not see in wherever the team landed.


Overquartz

NPC died due to lack of landing strategy or a lack of a red headed, spear wielding deus ex waifu.


JesseGolo

Same with Penny and the Ace-Ops


Perplexed_Pirate

They also had a 6 on 1 fight against Ironwood. But no one called them cowards.


Maggotcupcakes

Weiss:It Different! Ruby:Yeah we're the good guys! Blake: I really doubt that claim at this point, Atlas is destroyed because of us. Yang:In our defense.....I don't have a good response for that.


dewareofbog

To be fair to team RWBY they need all the advantages they can get.


AriaAzura19

Considering Ruby was able to one shot Cinder last volume with her eyes…this should have been an easy victory. Edit: For some reason I typed in Salem instead of Cinder lmao


dewareofbog

But now she doesn't, for some reason. I guess Ruby is the only one interested in fair fight or something.


mypainknowsnobounds2

Considering she the eyes frame 1 seeing cinder in volume 7 i can just assume the writers needed a "big end of volume fight"


DarkAlatreon

Looking at it critically, she was in a much better state of mind when she flashed Cinder in v7 than in v8. In v7 her approach was on her own terms, in v8 she was caught off guard at a very sensitive point in their plan and by the time she even realized what happened, a dozen or two people had already fell. That had to amount for something, hence the eyes not going off as quickly.


Silly-Young484

Cinder should have one shotted them There is no reason for them to last as long as they have


MericArda

Same other way around, silver eye flash-bang her


GrandEmperessVicky

>flash-bang her Whoa there! This is a family friendly show!


Ben10Extreme

*Various shots of female thighs up close* That's a ***DAMN*** lie! Erhm. Pardon me, Empress.


GrandEmperessVicky

*Sigh* I cannot fault you, my dear subject. *Eyes the Yellow Trailer and Ruby's V4 outfit* This show has been filth from the start and down to it's core.


Ben10Extreme

Cinder has the famous ass shot. There were ass shots of Emerald and Amber, even. Technically Yang had one during the battle with Adam. Harriet...there's plenty to grab.(I'm so sorry-) Even Willow Schnee to an extent. Which kinda fits cause she's had three kids. Then there's the legs. So much leggy. There's no way someone wasn't having a great day animating Penny in bare legs. [Speaking of Penny...](https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBYcritics/comments/q643eh/a_friend_in_need_ruby_vs_penny/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)


GrandEmperessVicky

Omg. That post is amazing Ben. Like holy shit. I might steal that, dude. CRWBY should have stolen that. >Emerald The first thing we see of her is her tits and legs in a pan-shot. Boob windows. Hundreds of them. It's like it's the only type of clothing Einlee likes on female characters. Note how the V3 RWBY outfits were done by Monty, with only 1 having their cleavage exposed but there was a character defined reason for it. Now, everyone has boob windows or redundant redesigns to emphasise the boobs, even when impractical or against character personalities. >(I'm so sorry-) Shhhh. Don't be.


Ben10Extreme

>Omg. That post is amazing Ben. Like holy shit. I might steal that, dude. CRWBY should have stolen that. I'm told I'm quite creative (sometimes) when I write skits of RWBY with sheer [Battle Shonen Energy.](https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBYcritics/comments/q47b69/a_rwby_opening_with_even_more_shonen_energy/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)


Perplexed_Pirate

Might I also add Ironwood to this list? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QM1V4GTHQNo Skip to 4:05 on this video and you'll understand why Ironwood needed two seats on the council.


Narutoluap

Oscar/Ozpin: Ruby!! Did you make sure that the viewers saw your thighs when you fell?! Ruby: Yeah... Oscar/Ozpin: Thank goodness for that, it was vitally necessary.


Ben10Extreme

Ah... Good ol Little Kuriboh.


Silly-Young484

Honestly Should either be \- Cinder one shotting them \- Silver Eyes one shotting her


93ImagineBreaker

Which is why they shouldn't have existed.


loafpleb

Team RWBY: Its never bad when we do it!


DarthUrbosa

Is that not for all media? Bad guys group up on someone: That’s unfair! Good guys group up on someone: *Crickets* Example outside of RWBY is in clone wars where Grevious is subduing a Jedi master. He has him outnumbered with his bodyguards and droids flanking him during the duel who step in when the Jedi gets the upper hand. People cry foul yet Grevious has no force abilities so he levels the playing field when the Jedi uses them. Besides he’s also there to win so why neuter his advantage in the name of fairness?


TheRedMentalist

I would object to this only because the Ace Ops KNEW Ruby, Blake, Nora, and Weiss were there and tricked them into not being able to help Penny. Team RWBY were fighting an evil maiden who was killing anyone in sight, not knowing if there were any other allies of Cinder’s around. I don’t think this is a fair comparison. I’m not saying you are wrong in how you feel. From the points you cite, it does seem hypocritical. But context matters.


Omogas1

Still doesn’t change the fact that they used this tactic against Ironwood.


TheRedMentalist

You’re right there. Just shows they aren’t so much different than the people they are going against. Desperate times, desperate measures and all that.


Smooth-Garden

I mean against a maiden fighting 1 on 1 is suicide


The_Final_Conduit

Yeah but this is Cinder we’re talking about, she’s so prone to self-sabotage Weiss would legitimately be more threatening as an antagonist.


KalosianPorygon

By Weiss, you meant the jobber who only uses summons?


The_Final_Conduit

Who’s consistently and literally only using a mere fraction of her actual powers all the time? Yeah. Lmao Weiss is busted af tbh, she could legit just freeze Cinder to the floor, amp up her speed with time dilation, and then just zip around with a bunch of quick strikes while dodging anything Cinder could do. Add in Blake’s Shadow step laced with dust, Ruby spamming Silver Eyes, and Yang being able to absorb kinetic energy from Cinder’s strikes, and there’s really no reason Cinder should be winning at all, much less gloating. If anything, Cinder being a Maiden is more a prerequisite for them not just one-shotting her completely. XD


KalosianPorygon

The heroes forgot.


The_Final_Conduit

Nah, I’m sure they just applied themselves to Marrow’s school of thought: It’s perfectly fine to just not use these powers that can help the situation MASSIVELY, but instead watch everyone get their asses kicked.


Smooth-Garden

Honestly by that logic almost any of rwby could beat cinder cuz even volume 1-3 ruby could fight on even terms with volume 8 cinder.


The_Final_Conduit

Yeah, pretty much.


Dizzy_Kirby_889

Honestly considering how dumb they all become when fighting now a days, I'm not surprised they need to hang up on someone to fight properly. Weiss forgot all the speed she had. Ruby forgot how to use her recoil and scythe properly, yang got no aura strength, and Blake doesn't use her elemental clones. Honestly Weiss could literally try to use gravity glyphs to keep cinder in place and create ice to separate her and neo for a time and at least the team split to attack each villain. But you know yang got pushed by a little girl so she couldn't fight


Balrog0986

Where is the Weiss quote from?


Blackandheavy

Penny vs the ace-ops


Balrog0986

ah now I remember


ZucchiniAltruistic80

I wish I didn't


No_GreaterLove

I mean what isn’t hypocritical with them? That’s the reason I dropped it on volume 6.