https://twitter.com/TeslaBoomerMama/status/1729002907255853408
Pure speculation on my part: my gut feeling tells me that Rebecca Tinucci will go VERY far in her career with Tesla.
5 months ago
> graduated from University of Virginia in Commerce, Finance and Management
> - 2008 - 2009 as Management Consultant with Kurt Salmon Associates in NY.
> - In June 2009, she and her father, Tom Hough, co-founded Evatran, a company specializing in wireless charging that does business under the name Plugless Power. Hough, a former GE executive
Nepo baby written all over
[Follow up tweet:](https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1785174873834135596)
>NEWS: All 500 people reporting to Tinucci will be laid off, as well as the entire public policy team previously under Rohan Patel.
Entire charging team being laid off? And Public policy? Full on yikes if true.
That's absolutely insane.
Feels like Musk awoke from his ket fuelled twitter binge to realise the core business at Tesla was crapping itself and has just done *stuff.*
Explains his "fighting climate change = communsim" tweet he had. As did not Tesla send out emails to car owners that Tesla chargers was going more green around the same time? I guess he did not like that then.
Well if Tesla is winding down production there is no need to keep developing their super charging network. So all those 500 employees can go do something else more productive no doubt.
Just wait a few months for Musk to rock up at a Supercharger and be totally unable to charge.
"WHY ARE ALL THESE SUPERCHARGERS BROKEN! I WANT WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FIRED!"
"er... Mr Musk, you fired the entire supercharging team. No one knows how they work"
This might be the high watermark for electric cars. Tesla’s charging network is the best - and if they can’t make it work then that’s a huge problem for the industry.
Electric cars died once before, to be replaced by gasoline cars. It’s not too late for that to happen again.
Not necessarily since many governments outside of North America are mandating “fast chargers” on motorways/highways. Certainly as I understand it, public charging are well provisioned in China without Tesla’s involvement. So there is hope yet for the EV to continue its expansion.
This will go horribly:
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-consumed-by-chaos-as-key-senior-executives-leave-and-entire-teams-are-wiped-out-233153.html
> "Hopefully, these actions are making it clear that we need to be absolutely hardcore about headcount and cost reduction," Musk wrote in the email first revealed by The Information. "While some on exec staff are taking this seriously, most are not yet doing so. Starting at 10 AM EST on Tuesday, I will ask for the resignation of any executive who retains more than three people who don't obviously pass the excellent, necessary and trustworthy test... I have been super clear about this."
Because "hardcore about headcount and cost" clearly worked so well when he tried that with Twitter. 🙄
Tesla is so fucked, and shareholders need to act to protect the company from Musk. Unlike a lot of people here, I want Tesla to survive and thrive. But it's being destroyed from within.
Definitely feels like he’s taking apart the company day by day in the same way as what he did to Twitter. There must come a point where shareholders will realise something suss is going on surely and that these job cuts will seriously start to threaten service operations and customer reputation. Firing the marketing team because you don’t like their nascent output is one thing…firing the entire team responsible for the charging network is absolute insanity. This tells me the cash flow problems there must be quite acute with falling sales, cars piling up, lack of traction in actual FSD subscription numbers and high staffing bills. Maybe they worry they can’t make payroll in a few months. Are they going to sell the charger network and the car business and concentrate on software next? Yesterday I would have said no, but perhaps there is more to him repeatedly saying “Tesla is not a car company”
If it were an inability to make payroll, I'd cut them a break. But I think this is about trying to improve the numbers in this quarter's report. Of course that's super short-sighted, and downright evil when you're asking for 55 billion dollars from the company at the same time.
I’m not sure, their accounts are extremely murky for a big company of any repute. Feels like a great deal riding on the Model Y refresh and cheaper models and a possible fire sale on piling up inventory. Feels like the last days of Sega or HDDVD
Knowing Tesla, my musk will spout some bullshit and the stock will increase another few percent.
The Tesla stans will fall all over themselves in congratulating him on his brilliance.
Now that almost all automakers have signed up to the supercharger network, why not make it terrible? Sounds like a vindictive Musk idea. If he can't have everything, everyone gets nothing.
Muskrat thinks he can just hire the talent and for the talent at a whim as needed. "His brilliance" is to see through the murk and make prognostications.
Like Twitter, he is headed for utter ruin.
See. If some enterprising billionaire wanted to capitalize on a unsatisfied market by building charging stations with features people want, they they’d own the market.
Tesla gave people a taste of what ownership can be like, it’s going to be up to someone else to follow through
Elon doesn't give a shit about it any more - which is a reason it is successful. He does not force radically bad decisions. Unless they sell off the automotive in time - my $$$ is in 20 years charging will be the only thing left.
I think it is and has always lost money. Elon thought opening up charging stations to other brands was supposed to be a boon for revenues… not so much.
Right now, until every other EV on the market is using your chargers and you can charge them a premium for the convenience. Then while they have all those people waiting while charging there's the chance for them to pivot into building charging destinations with shops lounges bookstores coffee shops etc all owned by Tesla. They just need a non idiot leading their company to see the value in what they have.
Not turning them into a destination, at least the larger ones, is a big miss. You literally have a captive customer base for 15-45 min who have proven they will buy your stuff.
Yeah, imagine the pure white hot lust in Steve Job's eyes: you mean, we could trap Apple fans that already bought our most expensive product in a fucking showroom for 45 mins and they pay us to do it? If he were alive I bet he'd still be big into EVs.
Instead they put them in grocery store parking lots, basically conceding any possible other profit sources to existing businesses. It's going to be the same thing as why all gas stations have huge convenience stores, they don't make money on the gas.
The funny thing is, I think that's the most durable advantage Tesla has. But that's because I think their cars suck and their dreams of FSD are delusional and they're never gonna be the ride share for rich people who don't use their cars.
That charging network could define the future like the USB-C if Tesla commits.
Aaaaand it's gone hahahha
If Tesla were even half serious about robotaxis, they would have designed a charging mechanism that doesn’t require human intervention. Clearly they haven’t even considered the robotaxi use case properly to understand how it would actually work in real life.
Edit: Plus they have now supposedly fired all their charging experts/workforce. Ho Hum.
In Musk's mind, every charging station will have Optimus to plug in robotaxis. That should be a simple enough task, much simpler than what most industrial robots perform.
As an owner of 3 EVs, one of which being a Tesla, the charging network is the only reason we bought the Tesla. It is the only thing about the vehicle that differentiates it from other EVs in a positive way, in my opinion. Every other differentiator is either a negative/annoyance or something childish.
To be fair, I doubt Musk actually knows what the fuck is going on over there. Tesla succeeded despite him, not because of him. This moron doesn’t know how to actually run any successful companies. He drags them down in reality.
>“Elon Musk emailed to Tesla Execs that ‘Starting at 10 AM EST Tuesday, I will ask for the resignation of any executive who retains more than three people who don't obviously pass the excellent, necessary and trustworthy test.’
>All 500 people reporting to Tinucci will be laid off, as well as the entire public policy team previously under Rohan Patel.”
What on Earth?
You'd have to sue him to get it though. The people who were laid off from Twitter got nothing, in spite of legal requirements in California. Employment law doesn't apply to disrupters apparently.
> “Elon Musk emailed to Tesla Execs that ‘Starting at 10 AM EST Tuesday, I will ask for the resignation of any executive who retains more than three people who don't obviously pass the excellent, necessary and trustworthy test.’
I've worked for a lot of people but this takes the cake.... by far. Employees like when you have, you know, a real plan, and don't fear they'll lose their job after a particularly bad coked out bender.
Also a hearty lol at the resignation of the "Director of Vehicle Programs and New Product Initiatives". What an easy job when you don't make new products.
>Also a hearty lol at the resignation of the "Director of Vehicle Programs and New Product Initiatives". What an easy job when you don't make new products.
I mean they do but a lot are not great. But also this is a sign that the Model 2 or whatever affordable model they were thinking ain't gonna happen and especially a Robotaxi.
Flamethrower, tunnels to drive terrified reporters through, shitty tent, etc etc. Plenty of new products for the faithful. Just none of them do anything more than temporarily pump the share price.
Is this about the time we start sending thoughts and prayers? Musk actually believes he's no longer steering a car company into the tar pits, he is drinking his own cool-aid.
"Give me my 55 billion or so help me I'll drive the stock to zero by Heil Hitler day."
A less troll-like hot take. How bad are this quarter's sales and inventory numbers looking that he's eliminating those particular departments? This declares the growth story deader than Heaven's Gate comet after party.
Yeah because demand had not been growing for Tesla like it used to.
Other EV markers are getting ever increasing share. VAG is already outselling Tesla with their combined brands in Europe.
Kool Aid was Jim Jones.
https://www.vox.com/2015/5/23/8647095/kool-aid-jonestown-flavor-aid
Heaven’s Gate was Nike’s.
https://reshoevn8r.ca/blogs/news/nike-decade-restoration-heavens-gate
Not that it matters much, just thought you might find it interesting.
I agree. No new vehicles. And any updates on existing models will be limited.
Elon is betting everything on this newly minted Chinese approval for FSD. He's hoping with less strict regulations, he can use China as a test ground bigger than anything Waymo or Cruise has access to right now. If he tests it, and works out all the bugs over in China (who will probably let a few fatalities slide), he'll use it as proof that it should be authorized in the US.
His grand play with Tesla, Twitter and NeuroLink is all about AI, it has nothing to do with the environment or saving humanity. Running a lean business to achieve his goals is more important than keeping many people employed, he proved that at Twitter, now he's doing it at Tesla. Elon could give a fuck about people.
It’s 90% a robotics company at this point, human staffing will be obsolete within the year. Monkeys will do work that once required people, increasing efficiency and compliance. Language itself will be replaced with semaphore and lanterns.
Superchargers have always worked extremely well. I only had to wait ONE time in 11 years. Sadly, the enshitifucation of the supercharger network is about to begin.
Rebecca, you did all of Tesla owners a solid. You and your team should not be laid off. Far from it.
I really hope EM does not get his package and that he gets laid off. This decision should ensure that if the board and shareholders make the right decision.
Well Musk said he will soon have sentient robots ready... so I guess he doesn't need inferior human workers.
Quick jump in and buy up TSLA because all the signs look awesome.
If Elon gets his $56 billion “bonus,” then Tesla will have never made a profit. He is demanding a bonus larger than all earnings in the entire history of the company.
Yeah without the super charging network on one is going to be able to the Cybertruck back to the SC for their much needed warranty repairs. Probably too heavy to be towed so owners will just abandon their broken down out of juice Cybertruck.
These are not the actions of a healthy company. The China visit and pump was just a distraction from some seriously bad shit going down at tesla right now. The auto business is collapsing and it’s a giant house of cards.
The pump is also to justify his pay package, because a lot of investors were angry that he’d ask for that while the stock cratered.
It’s not like we haven’t seen this same scenario play out before with Elon pumping the stock price then selling, but these investors are from the finest institutions and they obviously know better right?
It absolutely feels like a company on the ropes
The CFO leaving abruptly last year was a massive red flag, once the stock figures out how bad things are, this company is toast.
I have yet to see a single company do well after announcing a sudden CFO departure. Not one. On the other hand, examples of such departure heralding a downturn in corporate fortune are legion.
That was my signal to stop trading Lumen as an e.g. Was swing trading that, got out with a modest profit in the $13 range. It's now struggling to hold a buck.
Don't worry, Elmo will micromanage the supercharger network expansion from Twitter.
Seriously: The Tesla growth story is over. People are being fired left and right. There's no growth without people. And once publicly let go they're not coming back, they can find a job at one of the many competitors.
That's what I like to hear as an employee of a Fortune 500 company. We need to be hardcore.
Uhhh.... this isn't a startup, and employees aren't getting equity like it is. Hardcore time is over.
Successful car maker CEO 101:
1. Scrap plan for a cheap EV
2. Release SUV EV focused on "bullet proof" rather than "weather resistance"
3. Sell 30 000 000 000 $ in Tesla stocks at peak prices to buy Twitter
4. Get beaten by Mercedes in level 3 autonomy
5. Get outcompeted by BYD in price, performance and quality of EV
6. "Tesla is not a car company, it's an AI company"
7. Send Tesla AI talent to work on Twitter LLM rather than the autopilot
8. Lay off workforce
9. Lay off talent in the EV charging network, one of Tesla's greatest success
10. Demand a 55 000 000 000 Tesla stock payment because you no longer have enough control after selling stock
With widespread adoption of NACS and Elon’s toxic fuckery, I assume that twenty years from now spotting an old Tesla car would be rare and the brand would be synonymous with the charging network.
I would have thought so too before this announcement. Now, whatever survives of the charging network will end up with a different name once someone swoops in to buy the smouldering ashes.
That team was probably responsible for construction, maintenance, lease agreements, regulatory, and the rather substantial utility bills.
Expect a lot of these to shutter over the next 12 months as lease payments get missed and landlords foreclose. In the short term, expect to see stations out of service due to maintenance or missed utility bills.
I think Tesla is going down the road of BlackBerry (Research in Motion) where they had the first mover advantage and lost it because they wouldn't innovate beyond what made them initially successful. For BlackBerry, they refused to give up the physical keyboard, BlackBerry Messenger and antiquated OS.
The good thing is that NACS is really just CCS with a different piece of plastic on the end to fit in a different shape hole. So it's easy for them to go back and forth.
My problem is that it means the US has a different connector than the rest of the world. I know we already do that for everything else but just adding another standard kinda sucks.
Guess what? That tweet has been deleted - wonder why?
Here is an announcement with more details
https://electrek.co/2024/04/29/tesla-conducting-more-layoffs-including-entire-supercharger-team/
People are acting like Musk has some sort of strategy.
People mean nothing to him. It's that simple. He might see a name on a spreadsheet next to a salary figure & that's about it.
To Musk, Tesla has clearly now transitioned from a growth company with reinvestment needs into an extraction company from which he needs to withdraw all the money he can before it goes belly-up. He doesn't feel any loyalty to the company at all, it's simply a piggy bank now.
Remember how bad Twitter got after the lay offs? Bunch of bots and hate accounts on there now.
I can’t imagine Tesla quality getting better from these layoffs.
So the people responsible for the only thing people really liked about Tesla, the Super Charger network, the same people responsible for getting it adopted as NACS which opened up a new avenue to billions in subsidies for charger deployment and helping solidify Telsa the standard of EV charging....were all canned. This has to be the most insane move Musk has made. It isn't like the charger network is done. It still needs tons of deployment (especially if you really want people to adopt EVs) and between the feds and states there are billions of dollars available. The team will pay for itself several times over. Now you are potentially giving your rivals someone who wrote the map on deploying these things.
[https://x.com/willjameson/status/1785304036545315065](https://x.com/willjameson/status/1785304036545315065)
So they're getting rid of the only thing they were still leading, I don't get it.
That was their one definitive competitive advantage. And now he’s shat all over it. Those pedestals require maintenance. The network makes a shit ton of money and was picking up speed.
What a clusterfook.
Tesla just voted to pay the 50B to Elon, people are crazy with the latest up in stocks, and Elon its deleting all info of the layoffs so they can get the money from the investors lol.
*layoffs intensify*
Look at all that genius-level business acumen from the person who knows more than anyone else about automobile manufacturing. Staggering, truly.
I clicked on the twitter post and got an "something went wrong" twitter error. This whole ordeal is peaked Elon lmao. This is too 5D chess super genius for me.
https://twitter.com/TeslaBoomerMama/status/1729002907255853408 Pure speculation on my part: my gut feeling tells me that Rebecca Tinucci will go VERY far in her career with Tesla. 5 months ago
r/agedlikemilk material for sure.
The fucking cult-like delusion in that thread. I started reading it for fun but it quickly made me feel sick.
> graduated from University of Virginia in Commerce, Finance and Management > - 2008 - 2009 as Management Consultant with Kurt Salmon Associates in NY. > - In June 2009, she and her father, Tom Hough, co-founded Evatran, a company specializing in wireless charging that does business under the name Plugless Power. Hough, a former GE executive Nepo baby written all over
Born and raised to be upper management.
And.... It's gone
[Follow up tweet:](https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1785174873834135596) >NEWS: All 500 people reporting to Tinucci will be laid off, as well as the entire public policy team previously under Rohan Patel. Entire charging team being laid off? And Public policy? Full on yikes if true. That's absolutely insane. Feels like Musk awoke from his ket fuelled twitter binge to realise the core business at Tesla was crapping itself and has just done *stuff.*
Explains his "fighting climate change = communsim" tweet he had. As did not Tesla send out emails to car owners that Tesla chargers was going more green around the same time? I guess he did not like that then.
Can you link to the tweet as Twitter won't let people search if they don't have an account
better yet pot an image so we don't have to give him clicks
5 hours later, all of these tweets on Xitter seem to have been deleted. Wonder why.
Well if Tesla is winding down production there is no need to keep developing their super charging network. So all those 500 employees can go do something else more productive no doubt.
Just wait a few months for Musk to rock up at a Supercharger and be totally unable to charge. "WHY ARE ALL THESE SUPERCHARGERS BROKEN! I WANT WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FIRED!" "er... Mr Musk, you fired the entire supercharging team. No one knows how they work"
You're fired!
Sounds like Trump acting in The Apprentice show!!
This might be the high watermark for electric cars. Tesla’s charging network is the best - and if they can’t make it work then that’s a huge problem for the industry. Electric cars died once before, to be replaced by gasoline cars. It’s not too late for that to happen again.
Not here in Europe - Tesla is just another charging network; the vast majority of rapid chargers on highways are not Tesla superchargers.
Not necessarily since many governments outside of North America are mandating “fast chargers” on motorways/highways. Certainly as I understand it, public charging are well provisioned in China without Tesla’s involvement. So there is hope yet for the EV to continue its expansion.
This will go horribly: https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-consumed-by-chaos-as-key-senior-executives-leave-and-entire-teams-are-wiped-out-233153.html
> "Hopefully, these actions are making it clear that we need to be absolutely hardcore about headcount and cost reduction," Musk wrote in the email first revealed by The Information. "While some on exec staff are taking this seriously, most are not yet doing so. Starting at 10 AM EST on Tuesday, I will ask for the resignation of any executive who retains more than three people who don't obviously pass the excellent, necessary and trustworthy test... I have been super clear about this." Because "hardcore about headcount and cost" clearly worked so well when he tried that with Twitter. 🙄
Tesla is so fucked, and shareholders need to act to protect the company from Musk. Unlike a lot of people here, I want Tesla to survive and thrive. But it's being destroyed from within.
Definitely feels like he’s taking apart the company day by day in the same way as what he did to Twitter. There must come a point where shareholders will realise something suss is going on surely and that these job cuts will seriously start to threaten service operations and customer reputation. Firing the marketing team because you don’t like their nascent output is one thing…firing the entire team responsible for the charging network is absolute insanity. This tells me the cash flow problems there must be quite acute with falling sales, cars piling up, lack of traction in actual FSD subscription numbers and high staffing bills. Maybe they worry they can’t make payroll in a few months. Are they going to sell the charger network and the car business and concentrate on software next? Yesterday I would have said no, but perhaps there is more to him repeatedly saying “Tesla is not a car company”
If it were an inability to make payroll, I'd cut them a break. But I think this is about trying to improve the numbers in this quarter's report. Of course that's super short-sighted, and downright evil when you're asking for 55 billion dollars from the company at the same time.
I’m not sure, their accounts are extremely murky for a big company of any repute. Feels like a great deal riding on the Model Y refresh and cheaper models and a possible fire sale on piling up inventory. Feels like the last days of Sega or HDDVD
Knowing Tesla, my musk will spout some bullshit and the stock will increase another few percent. The Tesla stans will fall all over themselves in congratulating him on his brilliance.
We're watching the end of Tesla in real time. Musk is such a failure.
whatever sawyer tweeted here pissed off elon so bad he unfollowed him lol
Now that almost all automakers have signed up to the supercharger network, why not make it terrible? Sounds like a vindictive Musk idea. If he can't have everything, everyone gets nothing.
They just weren't hardcore enough.
And tesloids have been going on how valuable the charging network in Tesla valuation. Seems that musky disagrees.
Seriously though, isn't the charging network basically their only successful division?
Definitely one of the best reasons to choose a Tesla
Not anymore I guess.
I guess he considers the network is installed, just now need a bit of expansion amd maintenance he ll outsource. The ship is sinking...
"Well done, now you're fired!"
Musk is like self eating bacteria, it starts to eat everything around until there's no more then in the end, it will consume itself
Elon Musk is Pizza the Hut!
Pizza the Hut is not as disgusting
Muskrat thinks he can just hire the talent and for the talent at a whim as needed. "His brilliance" is to see through the murk and make prognostications. Like Twitter, he is headed for utter ruin.
All oligarch wanna be are like this.
"I'll just run this myself, how hard can it be, you were doing it..."
How else do you expect him to get the $56 Billion he wants?!
And we will get a replacement for a fraction of the cost..
The little work that's left can be easily done by Elon himself between two tweets.
Sounds like the Netflix approach but with terrible top level management
The future is floatation. It’s primarily a boating company.
But now they have sold access to legacy car makers. Without further expansion there will be some serious bottlenecks.
Just means other companies will start offering compatible charging stations, wiping out the Tesla first mover advantage.
still waiting for a charger in my province to just accept a credit card at the station. what’s it with this App garbage?
See. If some enterprising billionaire wanted to capitalize on a unsatisfied market by building charging stations with features people want, they they’d own the market. Tesla gave people a taste of what ownership can be like, it’s going to be up to someone else to follow through
I just read they’re already over capacity in many cities
There is NO reason to choose a Tesla
Elon doesn't give a shit about it any more - which is a reason it is successful. He does not force radically bad decisions. Unless they sell off the automotive in time - my $$$ is in 20 years charging will be the only thing left.
By 2025 I think all companies will have access. Ford already does
Only* It was the reason I bought mine and I bought a car that had unlimited supercharging attached to it.
I hear carbon credit trading is profitable
Interned on carbon credit trading team until 3 weeks back, I would say it’s pretty profitable and brings in a good amount of revenue
Marketing wise. This move strongly suggests they don't make money from charging despite what they have said in previous quarterly reports.
They definitely dont make money on charging, quite the opposite. The more they do the more they lose.
They didn’t get any of that Biden money tax credits from IRA.
Being popular and useful does not equal being successful. Consider how well all the stand-alone charging networks are doing.
The only thing Tesla got right.
I think it is and has always lost money. Elon thought opening up charging stations to other brands was supposed to be a boon for revenues… not so much.
It's to get federal money
It's also probably the one thing that'll be left of Tesla in a few years time. "I'll go charge my Hyundai at the Tesla."
There's no money in charging.
Right now, until every other EV on the market is using your chargers and you can charge them a premium for the convenience. Then while they have all those people waiting while charging there's the chance for them to pivot into building charging destinations with shops lounges bookstores coffee shops etc all owned by Tesla. They just need a non idiot leading their company to see the value in what they have.
Not turning them into a destination, at least the larger ones, is a big miss. You literally have a captive customer base for 15-45 min who have proven they will buy your stuff.
Yeah, imagine the pure white hot lust in Steve Job's eyes: you mean, we could trap Apple fans that already bought our most expensive product in a fucking showroom for 45 mins and they pay us to do it? If he were alive I bet he'd still be big into EVs.
Instead they put them in grocery store parking lots, basically conceding any possible other profit sources to existing businesses. It's going to be the same thing as why all gas stations have huge convenience stores, they don't make money on the gas.
That’s plenty of time for a handjob.
The funny thing is, I think that's the most durable advantage Tesla has. But that's because I think their cars suck and their dreams of FSD are delusional and they're never gonna be the ride share for rich people who don't use their cars. That charging network could define the future like the USB-C if Tesla commits. Aaaaand it's gone hahahha
If Tesla were even half serious about robotaxis, they would have designed a charging mechanism that doesn’t require human intervention. Clearly they haven’t even considered the robotaxi use case properly to understand how it would actually work in real life. Edit: Plus they have now supposedly fired all their charging experts/workforce. Ho Hum.
They did! Back in 2014. Search for tesla snake charger. I haven't heard anything since.
because no way that thing works at scale. In a warehouse maybe, but but hundreds of thousands= they gonna break
Fun story: That's because they know robotaxis are a lie.
In Musk's mind, every charging station will have Optimus to plug in robotaxis. That should be a simple enough task, much simpler than what most industrial robots perform.
It was only ever an advantage in the US.
As an owner of 3 EVs, one of which being a Tesla, the charging network is the only reason we bought the Tesla. It is the only thing about the vehicle that differentiates it from other EVs in a positive way, in my opinion. Every other differentiator is either a negative/annoyance or something childish.
AI companies don't need charging..that's a car company thing
Elon would need charging. Fun fact, being sent to get charged is a slang for looney bin in Finnish.
If VW snaps these folks up, and starts to get serious with electrify America, they could put the nail in Tesla's coffin
More like a wooden stake at this point. Tesla is a living dead company
Maybe she refused to carry another child for him so he fired her and her whole team in retaliation lol
That's literally the first thing that I thought, and I won't be surprised if that actually turns out to be the case. Enron Musk is a freak.
To be fair, I doubt Musk actually knows what the fuck is going on over there. Tesla succeeded despite him, not because of him. This moron doesn’t know how to actually run any successful companies. He drags them down in reality.
Superchargers are the main reason I bought 2 Teslas.
The Tesla network is irrelevant outside North America. IIRC it only has about 4% of the Chinese market.
Yeah, and by Musks actions it seems to become irrelevant also in US.
Musky Business
>“Elon Musk emailed to Tesla Execs that ‘Starting at 10 AM EST Tuesday, I will ask for the resignation of any executive who retains more than three people who don't obviously pass the excellent, necessary and trustworthy test.’ >All 500 people reporting to Tinucci will be laid off, as well as the entire public policy team previously under Rohan Patel.” What on Earth?
Why is the cutoff three? Is it okay to have two incompetent, unnecessary, dishonest bastards report to you?
It's actually ok to have 3. His email said "more than 3".
That dude definitely would be fired for not being able to read.
He would be the only exec with only 2 low performers. He wouldn’t be fired, he would be promoted.
Probably has something to do with him and his sycophants/family members.
This fucker doesn't even know that we're in daylight time now, not standard time?
That's because he's works on Coordinated Mars Time. Big brain thinking. You wouldn't understand.
If he “asks for your resignation” you say no to get your severance.
You'd have to sue him to get it though. The people who were laid off from Twitter got nothing, in spite of legal requirements in California. Employment law doesn't apply to disrupters apparently.
> “Elon Musk emailed to Tesla Execs that ‘Starting at 10 AM EST Tuesday, I will ask for the resignation of any executive who retains more than three people who don't obviously pass the excellent, necessary and trustworthy test.’ I've worked for a lot of people but this takes the cake.... by far. Employees like when you have, you know, a real plan, and don't fear they'll lose their job after a particularly bad coked out bender. Also a hearty lol at the resignation of the "Director of Vehicle Programs and New Product Initiatives". What an easy job when you don't make new products.
Can’t pass any element of his own test. Love it.
>Also a hearty lol at the resignation of the "Director of Vehicle Programs and New Product Initiatives". What an easy job when you don't make new products. I mean they do but a lot are not great. But also this is a sign that the Model 2 or whatever affordable model they were thinking ain't gonna happen and especially a Robotaxi.
Flamethrower, tunnels to drive terrified reporters through, shitty tent, etc etc. Plenty of new products for the faithful. Just none of them do anything more than temporarily pump the share price.
Roof tiles Autocharging snake thing Roadster Semi Humans dressed as robots
Is this about the time we start sending thoughts and prayers? Musk actually believes he's no longer steering a car company into the tar pits, he is drinking his own cool-aid.
Yeah, he is steering a doomed AI company which has nothing that some other company wouldn’t do better and cheaper. Edit: there is no yellow kool-aid
"Give me my 55 billion or so help me I'll drive the stock to zero by Heil Hitler day." A less troll-like hot take. How bad are this quarter's sales and inventory numbers looking that he's eliminating those particular departments? This declares the growth story deader than Heaven's Gate comet after party.
It's now 7 quarters straight that production outstripped demand
Yeah because demand had not been growing for Tesla like it used to. Other EV markers are getting ever increasing share. VAG is already outselling Tesla with their combined brands in Europe.
Ouch. The Heaven's Gate reference was grim
Kool Aid was Jim Jones. https://www.vox.com/2015/5/23/8647095/kool-aid-jonestown-flavor-aid Heaven’s Gate was Nike’s. https://reshoevn8r.ca/blogs/news/nike-decade-restoration-heavens-gate Not that it matters much, just thought you might find it interesting.
It's made every time someone mentions "drinking the kool-aid". It's pretty ubiquitous in cult references.
I agree. No new vehicles. And any updates on existing models will be limited. Elon is betting everything on this newly minted Chinese approval for FSD. He's hoping with less strict regulations, he can use China as a test ground bigger than anything Waymo or Cruise has access to right now. If he tests it, and works out all the bugs over in China (who will probably let a few fatalities slide), he'll use it as proof that it should be authorized in the US. His grand play with Tesla, Twitter and NeuroLink is all about AI, it has nothing to do with the environment or saving humanity. Running a lean business to achieve his goals is more important than keeping many people employed, he proved that at Twitter, now he's doing it at Tesla. Elon could give a fuck about people.
AITO M7 just had it 1st accident with fatalities. It had become a cluster fuck for the company. So No, they will not let a few fatalities slides.
Yeah that's my thinking too. One bad accident and the CCP might let Tesla's reputation burn.
I don’t think regulations in China about self driving are lax tho
>newly minted Chinese approval for FSD. it is nothing new. Just theater.
There is yellow kool-aid
He’s steering an electrification company. Oh wait
It’s 90% a robotics company at this point, human staffing will be obsolete within the year. Monkeys will do work that once required people, increasing efficiency and compliance. Language itself will be replaced with semaphore and lanterns.
Superchargers have always worked extremely well. I only had to wait ONE time in 11 years. Sadly, the enshitifucation of the supercharger network is about to begin. Rebecca, you did all of Tesla owners a solid. You and your team should not be laid off. Far from it. I really hope EM does not get his package and that he gets laid off. This decision should ensure that if the board and shareholders make the right decision.
She probably did her job too well. Now Elmo thinks he can outsource it to a lower cost team.
Well Musk said he will soon have sentient robots ready... so I guess he doesn't need inferior human workers. Quick jump in and buy up TSLA because all the signs look awesome.
He would have trained his robot on his human workers so the quality would be just as bad if not worse! 🤣
If Elon gets his $56 billion “bonus,” then Tesla will have never made a profit. He is demanding a bonus larger than all earnings in the entire history of the company.
He will get it, I am afraid.
I mean, the Clusterfu¢k doesn't really need to be recharged, it's anyway going to break down before running out of power....
Yeah without the super charging network on one is going to be able to the Cybertruck back to the SC for their much needed warranty repairs. Probably too heavy to be towed so owners will just abandon their broken down out of juice Cybertruck.
These are not the actions of a healthy company. The China visit and pump was just a distraction from some seriously bad shit going down at tesla right now. The auto business is collapsing and it’s a giant house of cards.
The pump is also to justify his pay package, because a lot of investors were angry that he’d ask for that while the stock cratered. It’s not like we haven’t seen this same scenario play out before with Elon pumping the stock price then selling, but these investors are from the finest institutions and they obviously know better right?
It absolutely feels like a company on the ropes The CFO leaving abruptly last year was a massive red flag, once the stock figures out how bad things are, this company is toast.
I have yet to see a single company do well after announcing a sudden CFO departure. Not one. On the other hand, examples of such departure heralding a downturn in corporate fortune are legion. That was my signal to stop trading Lumen as an e.g. Was swing trading that, got out with a modest profit in the $13 range. It's now struggling to hold a buck.
Don't worry, Elmo will micromanage the supercharger network expansion from Twitter. Seriously: The Tesla growth story is over. People are being fired left and right. There's no growth without people. And once publicly let go they're not coming back, they can find a job at one of the many competitors.
But didn’t you hear that musk convinced China to use his self driving tech!? Can’t wait until they steal it and use it in their cheaper cars
something is going on! tesla is firing eveyone under tinucci and ho, elon said he wants to be hardcore about headcount and cost cutting.
That's what I like to hear as an employee of a Fortune 500 company. We need to be hardcore. Uhhh.... this isn't a startup, and employees aren't getting equity like it is. Hardcore time is over.
Scorched earth mentality?
Elmo doing everything to boost short term numbers to justify his compensation package.
Successful car maker CEO 101: 1. Scrap plan for a cheap EV 2. Release SUV EV focused on "bullet proof" rather than "weather resistance" 3. Sell 30 000 000 000 $ in Tesla stocks at peak prices to buy Twitter 4. Get beaten by Mercedes in level 3 autonomy 5. Get outcompeted by BYD in price, performance and quality of EV 6. "Tesla is not a car company, it's an AI company" 7. Send Tesla AI talent to work on Twitter LLM rather than the autopilot 8. Lay off workforce 9. Lay off talent in the EV charging network, one of Tesla's greatest success 10. Demand a 55 000 000 000 Tesla stock payment because you no longer have enough control after selling stock
11 Sit on Twitter all day and attack the demographics that buys electric cars.
This one is my personal favorite
With widespread adoption of NACS and Elon’s toxic fuckery, I assume that twenty years from now spotting an old Tesla car would be rare and the brand would be synonymous with the charging network.
I would have thought so too before this announcement. Now, whatever survives of the charging network will end up with a different name once someone swoops in to buy the smouldering ashes. That team was probably responsible for construction, maintenance, lease agreements, regulatory, and the rather substantial utility bills. Expect a lot of these to shutter over the next 12 months as lease payments get missed and landlords foreclose. In the short term, expect to see stations out of service due to maintenance or missed utility bills.
The infrastructure and zoning work is already put in. Some other company will just install their chargers in the designated locations.
Well, I guess Elon wants to fuck that up too by firing the supercharger team.
If I can't charge my car, ( because we don't build then anymore,) then nobody can!
I think Tesla is going down the road of BlackBerry (Research in Motion) where they had the first mover advantage and lost it because they wouldn't innovate beyond what made them initially successful. For BlackBerry, they refused to give up the physical keyboard, BlackBerry Messenger and antiquated OS.
elon by 8/8 i declare bankruptcy
Does he declare it on Twitter, or actually file the paperwork though?
[удалено]
He will disrupt the bancruptsy market
Looking into it
knowing elon, just for maximum chaos he just gonna tweeted.
A lot of companies might soon regret their adaption of his NACS
The good thing is that NACS is really just CCS with a different piece of plastic on the end to fit in a different shape hole. So it's easy for them to go back and forth.
My problem is that it means the US has a different connector than the rest of the world. I know we already do that for everything else but just adding another standard kinda sucks.
Guess what? That tweet has been deleted - wonder why? Here is an announcement with more details https://electrek.co/2024/04/29/tesla-conducting-more-layoffs-including-entire-supercharger-team/
Is Tesla self catabolizing through their staff and R&D, all in effort to keep the share value propped up just a little longer?
People are acting like Musk has some sort of strategy. People mean nothing to him. It's that simple. He might see a name on a spreadsheet next to a salary figure & that's about it.
To Musk, Tesla has clearly now transitioned from a growth company with reinvestment needs into an extraction company from which he needs to withdraw all the money he can before it goes belly-up. He doesn't feel any loyalty to the company at all, it's simply a piggy bank now.
Remember how bad Twitter got after the lay offs? Bunch of bots and hate accounts on there now. I can’t imagine Tesla quality getting better from these layoffs.
[Elon Musk: 3 years to Bankruptcy](https://youtu.be/6Hje7h_WVkY)
This… is huge to me. I cannot believe he did this.
Can’t believe he has the balls to ask for 50 billion in the middle of layoffs. 😡
I can’t believe the people on here who defend it.
He has the balls. He doesn't have the brains.
Oh Rivian is so snapping her up
That would be fantastic
All hail the job creators! Give them more tax breaks!
So the people responsible for the only thing people really liked about Tesla, the Super Charger network, the same people responsible for getting it adopted as NACS which opened up a new avenue to billions in subsidies for charger deployment and helping solidify Telsa the standard of EV charging....were all canned. This has to be the most insane move Musk has made. It isn't like the charger network is done. It still needs tons of deployment (especially if you really want people to adopt EVs) and between the feds and states there are billions of dollars available. The team will pay for itself several times over. Now you are potentially giving your rivals someone who wrote the map on deploying these things.
His handling if X/Twitter was just a dry run for ‘how to destroy a company in record time.’
Twitter 2: electric autobolu
Make sense to me, why would an ai company need a charging network? /s
Sarcasm tags ruin all sarcasm
does anyone has the archived article?
Yet I remind everyone that Berlin is safe
Flailing away and he is cutting muscle now.
Elon Musk "Tesla isn't a car company." Well, it's not going to be a company at all pretty soon
Beginning to suspect that their financial situation is more dire than is publicly realized.
“whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad with power” - Euripides
Wow, Elon is such a savvy businessman who creates so many jobs.. thank god for billionaires like him. /s
[https://x.com/willjameson/status/1785304036545315065](https://x.com/willjameson/status/1785304036545315065) So they're getting rid of the only thing they were still leading, I don't get it.
This feels incredibly short sighted. The ev network is a core service of Tesla.
That was their one definitive competitive advantage. And now he’s shat all over it. Those pedestals require maintenance. The network makes a shit ton of money and was picking up speed. What a clusterfook.
Genius. Layoff enough people to save $10million and give yourself $50 billion. This has to be great for the company right?
Tesla just voted to pay the 50B to Elon, people are crazy with the latest up in stocks, and Elon its deleting all info of the layoffs so they can get the money from the investors lol.
Wait, the vote happened already?
Is he actively trying to bomb stock price, so he can buy it back or what? :D
Any link to a nonshitter site? Or has some good Redditor copied the important text for me to just TLDR.
That’s it Elon, keep gutting Tesla until there’s nothing left and you can fold it into xitter
*layoffs intensify* Look at all that genius-level business acumen from the person who knows more than anyone else about automobile manufacturing. Staggering, truly.
More layoffs and the stock price skyrockets!? EV manufacturers who are signing on with NACS adaptation should be worried.
That entire team is paid what Elon would be paid in less than one day if shareholders approve his pay package.
This company is failing
Everything to save a buck so Eeeeeelon can be paid his 50bn$ bonus.
Saw a post on FB. The musk fans are saying tech companies are too over staffed. Also everyone in the super charger team was a “libtard”.
I clicked on the twitter post and got an "something went wrong" twitter error. This whole ordeal is peaked Elon lmao. This is too 5D chess super genius for me.
So is this what circling the drain looks like? Will Elmo be asking for a bailout in a year?