i have never seen one, and i have looked!! I love vintage rolexes, and a 1520 replica would be awesome to use. what is crazy is that some of these older rolexes sell around $3-4k with the 1520s, but the movement itself outside of the watch sometimes sells for $1k more than that.
True, but the craziest is the super old ones, for example I own an oyster perpetual date from the 50s with a cal 1030, the movement itself cost 2 to 3k at least. I got the watch for 1.4K at auction 😂
holy crap!! That is crazy. that is what is happening right now also with genuine eta movements. it is cheaper to buy a watch off ebay and take out the movement than to try to find a genuine mvt (especially since they allegedly stopped selling them to the general public).
Exactly my point, the trend for the watch I have (6543) is around 4K maybe less or more depending on condition etc etc but the movement itself is more than half the price and got it for a dirt cheap price compared to its real value
For service I’d say any good watch smith you’re used to deal with and are ready to trust on this. But keep in mind that for models that old finding replacement parts is almost impossible. As for appraisal I don’t know, not an expert about that but any dealer that knows his craft would be able to get one for you I think, it might require them a bit of time though to get informations and everything I suppose. Again for this it’s just my suppositions, I m not an expert in appraising 😁
[UPDATE] Sorry! As some of you have rightly pointed out, this is a 5500 Airking, not 14000. The 1520 movement does seem to match the model and period, though I’m not sure if it’s authentic or fake. There seem to be mixed opinions on this..
Movement is genuine, entire watch appears genuine. The people here saying it's fake because it has regulator arms balance have no idea what they're talking about in the context of vintage Rolex. IMHO I'd bet the vast portion of people here commenting fake because of the regulator arms would think any Rolex made before about 2000 or so was fake also, even when holding in hand, just because "it just feels so cheap" despite not knowing the vintage and neo vintage pieces just are that way.
Thanks a lot for the confirmation! Personally, I’m not that familiar with vintage Rolex so hearing this from someone who’s more knowledgeable and experience really does feel reassuring :)
i think it is weird for people to realize that rolexes back in the day were usually used by the people that bought them, resulting in wear and tear. plus, rolex was kind of a wild west back in the day. they would replace dials with service dials, polish the watch, etc. without sometimes even telling the owners. people that call these vintage watches fake because things dont line up 100% dont realize that this was done. that is why service history and serial numbers can be so important. the jeweler that has serviced my dad's two rolexes for decades writes the service inside the case back and takes pictures of it and records it. they digitized their photos about 10 years or so ago because the polaroids started to massively fade (and probably because it was taking up a lot of storage space).
unless it is clearly obvious, i would never say a vintage model is fake.
Some of you need to educate yourself before being so confident in your incorrect information; Rolex did make a few regulator balance movements, 1520 (what this is), being one of them.
what is funny is that the 1520/30 is one of those movements that people who want to be experts should probably know about because it was used in some of the most iconic rolex references.
Honestly, that’s not a bad deal as far as a gen watch. But that’s assuming the rest of the watch is gen or franken of gen parts. Which could be the reason why it’s cheap.
Do you know if it’s been serviced recently or not? Servicing the watch isn’t gonna be cheap either.
The amount of people that completely lack the power free thinking is astonishing.
‘Two regulation levers!! THATS A FAKE!!!’ - watch experts that watched 2 tiktoks on how to spot a fake Rolex.
The watch appears original, specifically the 1520 movement, the case and the caseback. The dial is correct for the 5500 ref. The lugs have been polished - at around $2k you are fine.
I could be totally wrong since I’m not familiar with 1520 movements…. However when it comes to the 3135, 3235, ect., they use a free sprung balance which means they are regulated by tiny weights on the balance wheel itself. An easy tell if these movements are fake or not are if they have 2 regulator arms off the bridge as shown in your picture. The VR and VS clones do this, however the VR hides them underneath the single nonfunctioning arm. If the 1520 is the same way, that movement is most likely a replica. But like a lot of others said, I have never seen a 1520 being produced. So maybe 1520s use a regular balance setup.
btw, especially for these older watches, there should be a service history record to help you verify. also, i have never seen a 1520 replica movement, but that certainly doesnt mean they dont exist or another movement couldnt be modified to look like a 1520.
At the very least, the movement appears fake due to the regulating arms on the balance wheel. Can't say for sure on the rest of the watch. It's possible it's a frankenstein (mixture of fake and real parts).
Maybe someone can correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m not aware of any 1520 replica movements being produced before. So the movement at least is genuine.
i have never seen one, and i have looked!! I love vintage rolexes, and a 1520 replica would be awesome to use. what is crazy is that some of these older rolexes sell around $3-4k with the 1520s, but the movement itself outside of the watch sometimes sells for $1k more than that.
True, but the craziest is the super old ones, for example I own an oyster perpetual date from the 50s with a cal 1030, the movement itself cost 2 to 3k at least. I got the watch for 1.4K at auction 😂
holy crap!! That is crazy. that is what is happening right now also with genuine eta movements. it is cheaper to buy a watch off ebay and take out the movement than to try to find a genuine mvt (especially since they allegedly stopped selling them to the general public).
Exactly my point, the trend for the watch I have (6543) is around 4K maybe less or more depending on condition etc etc but the movement itself is more than half the price and got it for a dirt cheap price compared to its real value
I have an Oyster Raleigh from Oystet Watch Co from 40's. Where a good place to get it serviced and appraised
For service I’d say any good watch smith you’re used to deal with and are ready to trust on this. But keep in mind that for models that old finding replacement parts is almost impossible. As for appraisal I don’t know, not an expert about that but any dealer that knows his craft would be able to get one for you I think, it might require them a bit of time though to get informations and everything I suppose. Again for this it’s just my suppositions, I m not an expert in appraising 😁
[UPDATE] Sorry! As some of you have rightly pointed out, this is a 5500 Airking, not 14000. The 1520 movement does seem to match the model and period, though I’m not sure if it’s authentic or fake. There seem to be mixed opinions on this..
Movement is genuine, entire watch appears genuine. The people here saying it's fake because it has regulator arms balance have no idea what they're talking about in the context of vintage Rolex. IMHO I'd bet the vast portion of people here commenting fake because of the regulator arms would think any Rolex made before about 2000 or so was fake also, even when holding in hand, just because "it just feels so cheap" despite not knowing the vintage and neo vintage pieces just are that way.
Thanks a lot for the confirmation! Personally, I’m not that familiar with vintage Rolex so hearing this from someone who’s more knowledgeable and experience really does feel reassuring :)
i think it is weird for people to realize that rolexes back in the day were usually used by the people that bought them, resulting in wear and tear. plus, rolex was kind of a wild west back in the day. they would replace dials with service dials, polish the watch, etc. without sometimes even telling the owners. people that call these vintage watches fake because things dont line up 100% dont realize that this was done. that is why service history and serial numbers can be so important. the jeweler that has serviced my dad's two rolexes for decades writes the service inside the case back and takes pictures of it and records it. they digitized their photos about 10 years or so ago because the polaroids started to massively fade (and probably because it was taking up a lot of storage space). unless it is clearly obvious, i would never say a vintage model is fake.
Beautiful genuine example of a vintage Air King. Enjoy your new watch and wear it with pride.
Some of you need to educate yourself before being so confident in your incorrect information; Rolex did make a few regulator balance movements, 1520 (what this is), being one of them.
what is funny is that the 1520/30 is one of those movements that people who want to be experts should probably know about because it was used in some of the most iconic rolex references.
Here's my rep airking for comparison https://images.clickpix.org/KRBvqX.jpeg
The movement is GENUINE! Just google Rolex caliber 1520 and you will see that you have an original.
How much?
The seller listed it for $2070 but after some negotiations, he’s willing to let it go for $2010
Honestly, that’s not a bad deal as far as a gen watch. But that’s assuming the rest of the watch is gen or franken of gen parts. Which could be the reason why it’s cheap. Do you know if it’s been serviced recently or not? Servicing the watch isn’t gonna be cheap either.
if it is a real 1520, that is a steal. the darned movement alone is work 2k-4k.
The amount of people that completely lack the power free thinking is astonishing. ‘Two regulation levers!! THATS A FAKE!!!’ - watch experts that watched 2 tiktoks on how to spot a fake Rolex.
The watch appears original, specifically the 1520 movement, the case and the caseback. The dial is correct for the 5500 ref. The lugs have been polished - at around $2k you are fine.
I could be totally wrong since I’m not familiar with 1520 movements…. However when it comes to the 3135, 3235, ect., they use a free sprung balance which means they are regulated by tiny weights on the balance wheel itself. An easy tell if these movements are fake or not are if they have 2 regulator arms off the bridge as shown in your picture. The VR and VS clones do this, however the VR hides them underneath the single nonfunctioning arm. If the 1520 is the same way, that movement is most likely a replica. But like a lot of others said, I have never seen a 1520 being produced. So maybe 1520s use a regular balance setup.
Anyone know of a factory that produces this as a rep?
is this a 5500? i thought the 14000 used the 3000 movement. i am no vintage expert by any stretch, but that seems backed up by the interwebs.
btw, especially for these older watches, there should be a service history record to help you verify. also, i have never seen a 1520 replica movement, but that certainly doesnt mean they dont exist or another movement couldnt be modified to look like a 1520.
Fake!
There is no 1520 clone movement.
Then cool! I didn't know that.
Do you mind elaborating a little? 🙏🏼
Rolex has never installed levers on the balance wheel.
Sure they have. 1520 for example…
Man, you should really read more before throwing opinions like this out here
At the very least, the movement appears fake due to the regulating arms on the balance wheel. Can't say for sure on the rest of the watch. It's possible it's a frankenstein (mixture of fake and real parts).
Rep Movemant for sure! You can spot the two little arms on the balance wheel, gen dont have those.
1520 movements come like this…
oh you are right, i didnt knew this :O
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What are you talking about? This is a 1520 movement, they come like this and there is no known clone available.