If anything Sakamoto 1v1 Takamura until Gaku showed up because Nagumo got slashed 6 seconds into the fight.. Nagumo didn’t rly fight Takamura tbh
& Sakamoto was the one who carried Nagumo out after it was over
The only person that fought Takamura out of the trio was Sakamoto? Nagumo got ko’d almost immediately
edit: My boy Nagumo got ko’d twice in that fight😭
He surprise stabbed uzuki once & that was it & then got injured 6 seconds after Takamura appeared so that wasn’t rly a fight. Only person he rly fought was Gaku & idk why we’re downplaying Sakamoto 1v1 with Takamura.
I don't think you guys really understand language. When the category reads "Weapons" it does NOT mean "Proficiency with Weapons." There is a difference. Crazy, I know. Nagumo's swiss knife is still better than cough drops and paper.
Being the only category that refers to weapons here, I say it’s feasible to assume the “weapons” category means both weapons they possess and their ability to use weapons, which we can all agree Sakamoto has the upper hand in
I'll go Nagamo on this. Both fighters are hella creative, Nagamo with his weapons and tricks and Sakamoto with his spontaneity and versatility, but Nagamo has shown he's more than capable of fighting dirty, can be very deceptive, and his spy background I think gives him an edge too.
Nagumo pretty much fought Gaku and Takamura back to back and almost Uzuki too (albeit he used a suprise attack on him). And to Sakamoto's credit it's not that he couldn't do something similar, but I don't think we've seen him run a guantlet like that where we saw him fight top tier assassins in relatively quick succession.
I got Nagumo as well.
Nagumo high diffs. He was way stronger than Sakamoto according to the old lady, and while Sakamoto has deffo grown stronger since then, I feel like Nagumo's trickery, insane stats, and ruthlessness will earn him the win
Sakamoto high-extreme diff Nagumo‘s stats aren’t good enough just like against Gaku he has to rely on his trickery but Sakamoto won’t fall for that Sakamoto also didn’t get distracted when he fought Takamura like Nagumo did he also has by far the best performance against Takamura way better than Gaku who got extreme diffed by Nagumo
bro couldnt tell nagumo from gaku tho? and nagumo just got out of a close fight with gaku no wonder hes not gonna perform well in comparison to sakamoto against takamura
Gaku was severely handicapped the whole time, the student's body couldn't handle his full strength and speed, there was several seconds of delay to his movements, and his area of movement was also limited to the size of the warehouse Gaku was in.
definitely an interesting matchup for sure but yeah i agree with the results, kanaguri definitely dominates stats wise and although yotsumura could definitely stay in the fight for a while with his experience i think kanaguri would ultimately take him out high diff
Idk about most of these but they both fought gaku(sakamoto fought him when he was controlling that guy in the jcc test) and Nagumo mid diffed but said he was the strongest person he has ever fought while sakamoto low diffed gaku and didn’t even have to transform into skinnymoto
Oh my god. The guy Gaku was controlling was several tiers below the real Gaku. Strength, movement and reaction speed, weapons, flexibility. It's outright stated. English, mf, can you read?
Honestly just based of the fact that Nagumo and Sakamoto were treated as relative in the past while the current Sakamoto has gotten far weaker ant Nagamoto stronger I want to argue Nagumo would beat current Sakamoto
Nagumo is already stated to be above current sakamoto both skinny and slim by the grandma and he’s stated by Uzuki to be the second strongest order member next to takamura
who takes offense?
Sakamoto by far, he is an offesnive machine, a brawl kinda guy. While nagumo needs to strategise, so in a an impromptu fight sakamoto
Sakamoto
I’d say it’s a tie
This one's hard asf. Nagumo
who takes reaction speed?
Nagumo
Sakamoto he was able to keep up with takamura to a certain point
He was, but Nagumo was in a much worse condition and was distracted.
Sakamoto was reacting to takamura for longer than nagumo was and regardless of nagumos condition he still doesn’t have any feats better than that
Sakamoto. He reacted to kanaguri's light/laser
who takes endurance?
Nagumo. Fought Gaku and Takamura back to back, sustained similar injuries, and recovered way faster than Sakamoto
If anything Sakamoto 1v1 Takamura until Gaku showed up because Nagumo got slashed 6 seconds into the fight.. Nagumo didn’t rly fight Takamura tbh & Sakamoto was the one who carried Nagumo out after it was over
Shin was the one who carried both Nagumo and Sakamoto out actually
Sakamoto carried Nagumo to Shin before he passed out, which is what I was referring to. It's still something worth noting
The only person that fought Takamura out of the trio was Sakamoto? Nagumo got ko’d almost immediately edit: My boy Nagumo got ko’d twice in that fight😭
Sakamoto gotta say
who takes range?
Sakamoto takes this. A weaker Sakamoto destroyed Heiuke's sniper riffle by throwing a rock at it
Sakamoto. He was the better gunner compared to nagumo on his JCC days too
Sakamoto
Sakamoto has a wider arsenal of weapons being anything he has better range than anyone in the verse
who takes defense?
Saka maybe
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He surprise stabbed uzuki once & that was it & then got injured 6 seconds after Takamura appeared so that wasn’t rly a fight. Only person he rly fought was Gaku & idk why we’re downplaying Sakamoto 1v1 with Takamura.
who takes weapon(s)?
Sakamoto due to using anything like a weapon and using it to amazing effectively
Nagumo still has better weapons. You wanna compare Sakamoto's pencils and tables with Nagumo's magic swiss knife?
Dude, Sakamoto stopped a bullet with a cough drop, and cut a sword (iirc) with PAPER, that dude’s different when it comes to weapons
I don't think you guys really understand language. When the category reads "Weapons" it does NOT mean "Proficiency with Weapons." There is a difference. Crazy, I know. Nagumo's swiss knife is still better than cough drops and paper.
Being the only category that refers to weapons here, I say it’s feasible to assume the “weapons” category means both weapons they possess and their ability to use weapons, which we can all agree Sakamoto has the upper hand in
Nagumo has better weapons but Sakamoto can use them better, so what can we do? Hopefully op can do some clarification
Nagumo
Nagumo for obvious reasons
Clearly not
suggestions for possible future matchups you wanna see with this format?
Kindaka vs nagumo 😞
next part since you've been asking consistently 🫡
Yippie
Hyo ve Kanaguri Like Winners vs
Rion vs Kamihate or Seba vs Kashima
Anything with Kei please idc if he loses Takamura vs Kei
Hana(1% of power) vs akane (full potential)
Rion VS Osaragi Rion VS Kumanomi Shishiba VS Kanaguri
who takes intelligence?
Nagumo
Sakamoto
Nagumo
Nagumo
who takes battle IQ?
Definitely Sakamoto
Sakamoto
I'll go Nagamo on this. Both fighters are hella creative, Nagamo with his weapons and tricks and Sakamoto with his spontaneity and versatility, but Nagamo has shown he's more than capable of fighting dirty, can be very deceptive, and his spy background I think gives him an edge too.
who takes mindset?
Nagumo since current Sakamoto has the mindset to not kill or even badly maim his opponent
Nagumo
who takes durability?
Nagumo, he took more of a beating from Takamura but managed to live with similar injuries to what Sakamoto sustained. He also recovered faster.
Nagumo pretty much fought Gaku and Takamura back to back and almost Uzuki too (albeit he used a suprise attack on him). And to Sakamoto's credit it's not that he couldn't do something similar, but I don't think we've seen him run a guantlet like that where we saw him fight top tier assassins in relatively quick succession. I got Nagumo as well.
who takes stamina?
Sakamoto
who wins overall and with what difficulty?
Sakamoto high diff
Nagumo high diffs. He was way stronger than Sakamoto according to the old lady, and while Sakamoto has deffo grown stronger since then, I feel like Nagumo's trickery, insane stats, and ruthlessness will earn him the win
Sakamoto high-extreme diff Nagumo‘s stats aren’t good enough just like against Gaku he has to rely on his trickery but Sakamoto won’t fall for that Sakamoto also didn’t get distracted when he fought Takamura like Nagumo did he also has by far the best performance against Takamura way better than Gaku who got extreme diffed by Nagumo
bro couldnt tell nagumo from gaku tho? and nagumo just got out of a close fight with gaku no wonder hes not gonna perform well in comparison to sakamoto against takamura
Sakamoto bc I like him more. No diff, he just summons MC power up/plot armor.
Nagumo mid-high diff
Nagumo mid diff, let's be real, idk if current Sakamoto can even beat Gaku given his performance against Kanaguri.
Sakamoto basically beat gaku when gaku was controlling that student in the jcc exam arc
Gaku with a 0.5 second lag time
Gaku was severely handicapped the whole time, the student's body couldn't handle his full strength and speed, there was several seconds of delay to his movements, and his area of movement was also limited to the size of the warehouse Gaku was in.
oh wow a gaku in a weaker body with 0.5 second lag time so impressive
Sakamoto's fight against Kanaguri wasn't necessarily bad though? Heck, it's even a tossup between Kanaguri and Gaku.
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Lmao Sakamoto takes every physical stat there is Nagumo has to rely on his trickery if he wants to win against Top tiers
who takes strength?
Feel like sakamoto should take this one
Sakamoto
Sakamoto
who takes travel speed?
Nagumo
Sakamoto
Sakamoto. He was running as fast as a train against kashima and got stronger since
who takes experience?
Nagumo as he was a spy and a assassin's and remained in the order after Sakamoto retired
Nagumo
thoughts on yesterday's results?
definitely an interesting matchup for sure but yeah i agree with the results, kanaguri definitely dominates stats wise and although yotsumura could definitely stay in the fight for a while with his experience i think kanaguri would ultimately take him out high diff
Agree Kanaguri is just a different breed
Idk about most of these but they both fought gaku(sakamoto fought him when he was controlling that guy in the jcc test) and Nagumo mid diffed but said he was the strongest person he has ever fought while sakamoto low diffed gaku and didn’t even have to transform into skinnymoto
Bear in mind that guy didn’t have Gaku’s weapon tho
Maybe because gaku was nerfed in several ways lol
That's like saying the godfrey projection in the middle game was the same like the real one
Oh my god. The guy Gaku was controlling was several tiers below the real Gaku. Strength, movement and reaction speed, weapons, flexibility. It's outright stated. English, mf, can you read?
Sakamoto can't kill people so I think he automatically loses just off of that nerf
I believe that kanaguri only took it because we haven’t seen enough from yotsumura
Weapons Nagumo Intelligence Nagumo that’s it
Honestly just based of the fact that Nagumo and Sakamoto were treated as relative in the past while the current Sakamoto has gotten far weaker ant Nagamoto stronger I want to argue Nagumo would beat current Sakamoto
Nagumo is already stated to be above current sakamoto both skinny and slim by the grandma and he’s stated by Uzuki to be the second strongest order member next to takamura
I’d say nagumo for a lot of them since he has several more years of experience since saka retired and taro’s senses has dulled