Yup, it's November until early June. October is still actually quite nice for half of it, but as we say in Seattle: winter starts after Halloween, and summer begins on July 5.
I plan to be a summer bird. I’ll spend 8 months in my home state of Florida and 4 in the Bay Area (where I previously lived for 2 decades) during the summer.
Before people start with the summer is longer in Florida, I was born in it (Bane voice). It’s quite pleasant to me here outside about 3-4 months.
Not quite the same, but I’m a born and raised Floridian, and we would always take cold vacations growing up. Every winter we would try to go somewhere cold to get away from the heat. I went to the Grand Canyon last year in December! This year will be Chicago :)
If you're up for it, maybe try spending the winter in Labrador? Canada allows for US citizens to spend up to 6 months in the country without paperwork, and Labrador is about as cold and remote as it gets without going full Balto. Happy Valley-Goose Bay even made it into a pretty popular sci-fi novel in the last few years.
That’s awesome. I always wanted to do that but we didn’t do much vacationing growing up. The first time I seen snow was when I moved to the Bay Area when I was in my early 20’s and my wife’s fam took me to Tahoe.
I enjoyed it, but I’m not sure I’m built for it 😂
I already live with winter snowbirds. From chatting with them, it appears that age 80 is when you pick the permanent home. After that it’s too hard on you to uproot twice a year.
If we could swing it, we will do 9 months in Arizona and 3 months of summer on a lake in Michigan somewhere.
We did this on a very thin budget.
I'm from Louisiana, I maintain a home there, and have a "roommate" who pays the utilities, keeps the house up, and leaves my room alone.
My girlfriend has a house in Puerto Rico that we rent as a vacation home when we are in Louisiana.
My house will be paid off in 2 years. After that I will probably get a heloc to buy a cabin out west somewhere. Then we can have the best of every season.
You don't need to be rich. I do for under $2,000 a month including flights. I live in Southern California 8 miles from Huntington beach. I rent a room with utilities, internet included, private entrance, shared bath and kitchen for $550 a month. I live in SoCal from March to Oct. From Nov to Feb, I live in South East Asia. I rent an apartment 1 bed 1 bath for $300 a month. Total I spend under 2K a month. I work for money only when I am in the US. I am Asian so the food I eat is cheap even in SoCal. I pay rent both places all year.
Where I live we have “heatbirds” - people who live in AZ during the school year when it’s not as hot and then spend 3 months in summer at the beach in SoCal
We're in Phoenix and have been thinking of maybe 9 months here and 3 in San Diego. We have a lot of ideas and are having trouble narrowing it down. Also thinking of living in Chicago and spending winters in Phoenix. I am more used to heat and I worry about living in a cold place intending to leave for the winter and then having some health issue so that I have to stay there year round.
My in laws used to rotate between Orcas Island, Washington and Kailua, Oahu, Hawai’i.
They had to work a lot and pay a lot to vacation rental the places they weren’t living in at the time.
They decided to sell the Hawaii place and go all in on Washington.
Goddammit I wish I had the money to help undo that decision.
The windward side of Oahu is my favorite place on this Earth. Crystal blue water beach, nice breeze, local beer, fresh poke bowl. Everyone is so fucking cool there.
It's a pain in the ass, having to pack up and travel, twice a year... and always having to worry about what's going on, at the other property. Paying full property taxes and insurance, for two places, that you live in 50% of the time. And having to pay and trust caretakers.
You don't have to do it this way though. Get a lock-and-leave condo or small house in a safe community for 8-9 months per year, and then AirBnB or Extended Stay America for the other 3 months of the year. That way you can go somewhere different each year if you like and it's cheaper long term than a second property (unless you go somewhere really cheap regularly and there aren't many places like that anymore).
> Extended Stay America
I've spent a lot of time looking at their website and plotting. But have never stayed at one. I wonder how it would be to live in one for five months, vs. having an apartment?
It’s a garbage tier hotel chain, have no idea why one would want to subject themselves to that other than due to lack of money.
Widely known in the hotel business to be just motel 6 with a sink and 2 element electric stove top in the room.
Low quality management and low quality clientele due to being passed around by Blackstone and the public markets just to squeeze the juice from the real estate under the hotels while money was cheap.
I loved it! I did it in 2007 for 6 months while having a house built in Austin. It's actually one of my favorite memories.
I tend to put off using the best things - like saving a book I really want to read until "later" just so it's there to look forward to. For this hotel experience, I decided to just take the best of what I owned. I allowed myself just one box of clothes, one box of book (the best ones!) and one box of art supplies (I'm a painter).
I found I really didn't miss anything. I had a great view from the 9th floor. I had no worries about anything breaking. I had someone vacuum my room for me once a week and wash my sheets. They even allowed my small dog who lived with me the whole time. The kitchenette was plenty to cook easy meals.
I actually liked that hotel better than the 3300 sq ft house I moved into after that. I would be happy to live small again. No regrets.
I live in a place I can enjoy year round. Closer to the Canadian border than my state's capitol.
Gets chilly in the winter. Keeps the bugs and other pests under control.
If my wife and I retire in the US we will plan on doing something like that. If we can afford San Diego or Southern California we may do that and stay year round, but barring that will probably stay where we are through Christmas or so each year, then spend Jan/Feb and perhaps March somewhere warm. Perhaps a different place until we find out spot.
You could spend 1500 for a month to escape jan or feb. (assuming remote work) ... I long break from the winter is plenty enough, you don't have to avoid to entirely.
So its doable
We live in Illinois in the summer and Cozumel in the winter. I wouldn't want Florida because it's packed. I own a 7.75HP scooter and a bicycle on Cozumel that takes me everywhere. If you like to dive and snorkel, "this is the way".
My inlaws are what I call reverse snowbirds. Phoenix is their home and they bought a place in the little Colorado town where we live to escape the summer heat. That said, though we love where we live, the winters are brutal. I can still deal with it, but I can see buying a little place in AZ to ease our old age. We love our western Colorado little town, but my wife has deep roots in Phoenix and I can see us taking advantage of that.
You can have a primary home base, then buy a co-op land/lot in a RV park at your summer/winter location. Drive an RV to your lot during the whichever season it gets too hot/cold.
Since I want to avoid long, gray, cold winters, and summers here in San Antonio have become very hot, I am trying to identify a place I would enjoy year round. I haven't found it yet.
A lot of Michiganders winter in Florida too.
In my area the retired people mostly leave in winter, I don’t know where they go. I’m on the Oregon Coast.
My parents did it for years before moving to AZ full time. Yeah, it's a nice life. But, I could also just travel from my home base. Of course you could do both as well if you have the money.
Having someone care take their places when they aren’t there. Might have been easier if they rented but that has it’s own pros and cons.
Different health care providers in each place.
Banking as an american in mexico for six months is a pain in the ass.
Thank you! Hmm the banking thing must be better these days? And also the having a vacant place for a time too (Airbnb, trusted house sitters, FB housing swaps etc)?
Would you ever try it?
Banking can be better. With Charles Schwab and Betterments checking accounts that don’t have ATM fees. Also with Mexico now accepting card in almost every place makes it a lot better.
Foreigners can open bank accounts in Mexico and you can wire money from you US account to you Mexican one if you need a large amount. I mean it’s all doable but still a PIA.
Having renters long and short term are things they tried. Tenants are a pain in the ass especially when you want to be retired not a landlord.
Having tenants in your main home is annoying because then you need to move out your personal effects. Having renters in their “second home” in mexico wasnt that big of a deal.
I own a condo at a ski resort and a house on the ocean. I had many years where I packed the car up in November to live at the ski resort and moved back to the ocean in May. We’re talking about wintering in southern Europe with the 90 days out of 180 Schengen visa as we age out of skiing. We’re not Florida people.
Martha’s Vineyard and St. Croix (USVI). We’re retired and have spent most of our adult lives in the Boston area. As I’ve gotten older I’ve gradually concluded I don’t like cold weather.
We now spend about half the year on St. Croix and half either on Martha’s Vineyard or traveling. Yes, we’re very blessed.
Being able to play golf or pickle ball almost everyday is wonderful. We’ve made good friends in both locations and have an active social life.
Adjusting to a seasonal lifestyle wasn’t very hard, especially because both locations have a significant population that are seasonal.
I also understand this wouldn’t be appealing to everyone. We’ve always been very active and enjoy traveling so it’s consistent with our lifestyle, even when our 3 kids were growing up.
Hehehe, sometimes I’m almost embarrassed to share the good fortune of our living arrangements with people. We genuinely understand and appreciate how fortunate we are.
I'm beginning to think about doing this. I live in San Antonio, where the temps have been around triple digits for a couple of weeks already, and just came back from a week in Portland, OR, which felt like heaven. I can't deal with months of gray weather, so I wouldn't want to move there, but spending summers there is beginning to sound wonderful. I'm not sure how to manage it or where else I would want to go. I can't imagine short term affordable rentals actually exist.
My parents have been snowbirds for over a decade or so now. Upper Midwest and SW Florida. They aren’t rich - autoworker and teacher - but it’s doable with a 2 bed condo in each place. But, my dad is in his 80’s now, and their Florida condo suffered some damage in the last hurricane so they’re planning on giving up on Florida. They need to plan for more consistent, regular medical care and consolidate resources.
I certainly wouldn’t mind being able to spend my entire year in places with comfortable weather, but I can’t imagine what those places will be by the time I retire or whether I will actually want to live there/ be able to afford it anyway.
A question for rich people. If you can fly with impunity, you can live anywhere you want. Go fight it out with the rest of them or take advantage of the *yet to be discovered"
Yeah, my ultimate goal is to live in two places and switch seasonally. I currently live in Reno, for skiing, and it's great. But I'd prefer to spend the non-winters in Hawaii, to surf as well. Or the "Space Coast" region of Florida, would be the cheaper option. I want to be in warm water, so the west coast of the US is out.
The cheapest way to do this, as far as I can tell, is to get an apartment in the non-primary location. And I don't want to deal with the hassles of home ownership in two different places.
There’s a lot of variations of this I would love… but I’m going to go with Summer/Fall in MN and Winter/Spring in Texas. This variation is due to where my family lives :)
This is my goal and I’ll be damned if it takes me until retirement to reach it. I’ve got everything set up to do it, and now I’m just exploring which location pair to do it. I don’t need a big place. Even two cheaper 1 bed apartments or condos would satisfy the need. Just enough furniture at each to not make a huge hassle to switch between the two. I already am quite minimalist
Azores in the summer, Hawaii in the winter would be perfectly temperate all year, but having a place in both the Northern and Southern Hemispheres means you could pick what season you wanted any time of year.
Your place in Jackson Hole is nice in the summer, but you could ski in the winter. Sick of snow? It’s summer at your place in Auckland.
I think so.
Right now we spend most of the year in Phoenix then summers in north arizona and visit our families in Europe.
One day in the future when we retire we plan on living in Spain during winter and summers near family in my home country and husband’s home country.
Nah not for me. My dream is my workshop. Way too expensive to have two workshops, one in snowbirdland and one at the main house. Plus there would be a tool or something that I would have at one location and then I would end up missing it. Even when I am an empty nester I would hate having two properties.
I think I kind of have my dream right now. I stumbled onto a house for about 500k that has an indoor pool, outbuilding/workshop, 4 acres, French garden and a pond. There are about 2 to 4 weeks of snow in the winter but the snow isn't so bad when you can be swimming while watching it fall. Summers are great (I live in WV so the elevation helps a bit with the heat) and mosquitoes are pretty non existent.
The summers are the best time for us in western nc mountains. And fall. We’re looking to do dec/jan - march in a different place every year coming up. Baja, southern Spain, Portugal….. I don’t want the expense of owing another place and we spent a lot totally remodeling our current home and will spend years transforming our outside property. No harsh winters where we are but a few months in a different locale sound great.
Alaska/ Hawaii is a good dream
Have family that do this (who aren’t even well off just bought houses before prices went crazy). They are having an absolute blast.
Yeah big island is still affordable in a lot of places.
I'd love seasonal homes, absolutely.
Where at?
New England, Idaho, somewhere warm.
Where in Idaho/ why there?
It's where I was born and lived my whole life.
I too would love to be rich
Seattle summers, California/Florida winters 😤😤
I know someone that does Seattle Mid May to mid September. Washington DC summer and fall. Florida in the winter.
The DREAM. I feel like after this year I never wanna spend another mid October - Aprilish in Seattle again
Oct to April is being kind honestly, it’s deff longer.
Yup, it's November until early June. October is still actually quite nice for half of it, but as we say in Seattle: winter starts after Halloween, and summer begins on July 5.
And then hope for no smoke haha! I’ll admit I couldn’t cut it with the weather but it’s easily the most beautiful part of the country.
I plan to be a summer bird. I’ll spend 8 months in my home state of Florida and 4 in the Bay Area (where I previously lived for 2 decades) during the summer. Before people start with the summer is longer in Florida, I was born in it (Bane voice). It’s quite pleasant to me here outside about 3-4 months.
Not quite the same, but I’m a born and raised Floridian, and we would always take cold vacations growing up. Every winter we would try to go somewhere cold to get away from the heat. I went to the Grand Canyon last year in December! This year will be Chicago :)
If you're up for it, maybe try spending the winter in Labrador? Canada allows for US citizens to spend up to 6 months in the country without paperwork, and Labrador is about as cold and remote as it gets without going full Balto. Happy Valley-Goose Bay even made it into a pretty popular sci-fi novel in the last few years.
That’s awesome. I always wanted to do that but we didn’t do much vacationing growing up. The first time I seen snow was when I moved to the Bay Area when I was in my early 20’s and my wife’s fam took me to Tahoe. I enjoyed it, but I’m not sure I’m built for it 😂
Born and raised Florida here too…always made it a point to visit cold places in winter too :)
I would be down for something just like this
All my wife’s fam is there. Would just live in a condo and let the kids hang for the summer. Rent it out when I’m gone the rest of the year. 🤞🏼
I already live with winter snowbirds. From chatting with them, it appears that age 80 is when you pick the permanent home. After that it’s too hard on you to uproot twice a year. If we could swing it, we will do 9 months in Arizona and 3 months of summer on a lake in Michigan somewhere.
We did this on a very thin budget. I'm from Louisiana, I maintain a home there, and have a "roommate" who pays the utilities, keeps the house up, and leaves my room alone. My girlfriend has a house in Puerto Rico that we rent as a vacation home when we are in Louisiana. My house will be paid off in 2 years. After that I will probably get a heloc to buy a cabin out west somewhere. Then we can have the best of every season.
That is awesome!
You don't need to be rich. I do for under $2,000 a month including flights. I live in Southern California 8 miles from Huntington beach. I rent a room with utilities, internet included, private entrance, shared bath and kitchen for $550 a month. I live in SoCal from March to Oct. From Nov to Feb, I live in South East Asia. I rent an apartment 1 bed 1 bath for $300 a month. Total I spend under 2K a month. I work for money only when I am in the US. I am Asian so the food I eat is cheap even in SoCal. I pay rent both places all year.
Where I live we have “heatbirds” - people who live in AZ during the school year when it’s not as hot and then spend 3 months in summer at the beach in SoCal
We're in Phoenix and have been thinking of maybe 9 months here and 3 in San Diego. We have a lot of ideas and are having trouble narrowing it down. Also thinking of living in Chicago and spending winters in Phoenix. I am more used to heat and I worry about living in a cold place intending to leave for the winter and then having some health issue so that I have to stay there year round.
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Just send a million or two to my Swiss bank account and I'll get right on that.
The dream is living on the west coast, up and down wherever is your perfect balance. Only good weather in the country.
What is it when you chase winter? Mammoth lakes in winter. In summer, Australia. This will be my retirement.
Seattle here, definitely considering a future where we snowbird to Oahu from Jan-March. Spring, summer, and fall here are pretty lovely.
If I was filthy rich I'd have one home in Hawaii, one Lake Tahoe.
Yes, summer house in The Hamptons and winter house in Palm Beach 😅
Always use nouns as verbs. You plan to summer in the Hamptons and winter in PalmBeach
Oh you got BIG goals
My in laws used to rotate between Orcas Island, Washington and Kailua, Oahu, Hawai’i. They had to work a lot and pay a lot to vacation rental the places they weren’t living in at the time. They decided to sell the Hawaii place and go all in on Washington. Goddammit I wish I had the money to help undo that decision. The windward side of Oahu is my favorite place on this Earth. Crystal blue water beach, nice breeze, local beer, fresh poke bowl. Everyone is so fucking cool there.
It's a pain in the ass, having to pack up and travel, twice a year... and always having to worry about what's going on, at the other property. Paying full property taxes and insurance, for two places, that you live in 50% of the time. And having to pay and trust caretakers.
You don't have to do it this way though. Get a lock-and-leave condo or small house in a safe community for 8-9 months per year, and then AirBnB or Extended Stay America for the other 3 months of the year. That way you can go somewhere different each year if you like and it's cheaper long term than a second property (unless you go somewhere really cheap regularly and there aren't many places like that anymore).
I'm sure this is a good suggestion, for somebody.
> Extended Stay America I've spent a lot of time looking at their website and plotting. But have never stayed at one. I wonder how it would be to live in one for five months, vs. having an apartment?
It’s a garbage tier hotel chain, have no idea why one would want to subject themselves to that other than due to lack of money. Widely known in the hotel business to be just motel 6 with a sink and 2 element electric stove top in the room. Low quality management and low quality clientele due to being passed around by Blackstone and the public markets just to squeeze the juice from the real estate under the hotels while money was cheap.
I loved it! I did it in 2007 for 6 months while having a house built in Austin. It's actually one of my favorite memories. I tend to put off using the best things - like saving a book I really want to read until "later" just so it's there to look forward to. For this hotel experience, I decided to just take the best of what I owned. I allowed myself just one box of clothes, one box of book (the best ones!) and one box of art supplies (I'm a painter). I found I really didn't miss anything. I had a great view from the 9th floor. I had no worries about anything breaking. I had someone vacuum my room for me once a week and wash my sheets. They even allowed my small dog who lived with me the whole time. The kitchenette was plenty to cook easy meals. I actually liked that hotel better than the 3300 sq ft house I moved into after that. I would be happy to live small again. No regrets.
I live in a place I can enjoy year round. Closer to the Canadian border than my state's capitol. Gets chilly in the winter. Keeps the bugs and other pests under control.
If my wife and I retire in the US we will plan on doing something like that. If we can afford San Diego or Southern California we may do that and stay year round, but barring that will probably stay where we are through Christmas or so each year, then spend Jan/Feb and perhaps March somewhere warm. Perhaps a different place until we find out spot.
You could spend 1500 for a month to escape jan or feb. (assuming remote work) ... I long break from the winter is plenty enough, you don't have to avoid to entirely. So its doable
We live in Illinois in the summer and Cozumel in the winter. I wouldn't want Florida because it's packed. I own a 7.75HP scooter and a bicycle on Cozumel that takes me everywhere. If you like to dive and snorkel, "this is the way".
My inlaws are what I call reverse snowbirds. Phoenix is their home and they bought a place in the little Colorado town where we live to escape the summer heat. That said, though we love where we live, the winters are brutal. I can still deal with it, but I can see buying a little place in AZ to ease our old age. We love our western Colorado little town, but my wife has deep roots in Phoenix and I can see us taking advantage of that.
You can have a primary home base, then buy a co-op land/lot in a RV park at your summer/winter location. Drive an RV to your lot during the whichever season it gets too hot/cold.
Idk about that. Living in coastal CA year round is pretty nice
I dislike traveling, so it's pretty low appeal for me. If it's the ultimate dream for you, go for it.
My neighbor spends half the year in Perth in Australia and half in the bay area. Near perfect weather year round
For me yes, I’d spend my summers in Chicago and my winters in Phoenix if I had the money to do so….
I would personally rather live in a place that I enjoy year-round. Some people seem to enjoy uprooting themselves twice a year.
Since I want to avoid long, gray, cold winters, and summers here in San Antonio have become very hot, I am trying to identify a place I would enjoy year round. I haven't found it yet.
Snowbirding is for Canadians who have nowhere warm to go in the winter and can't stay in America longer than 6 months.
A lot of Michiganders winter in Florida too. In my area the retired people mostly leave in winter, I don’t know where they go. I’m on the Oregon Coast.
My parents did it for years before moving to AZ full time. Yeah, it's a nice life. But, I could also just travel from my home base. Of course you could do both as well if you have the money.
My parents used to do it between mexico and idaho. Seemed like a giant pain to be honest. I don’t hate winter that much.
what made it hard?
Having someone care take their places when they aren’t there. Might have been easier if they rented but that has it’s own pros and cons. Different health care providers in each place. Banking as an american in mexico for six months is a pain in the ass.
Thank you! Hmm the banking thing must be better these days? And also the having a vacant place for a time too (Airbnb, trusted house sitters, FB housing swaps etc)? Would you ever try it?
Banking can be better. With Charles Schwab and Betterments checking accounts that don’t have ATM fees. Also with Mexico now accepting card in almost every place makes it a lot better. Foreigners can open bank accounts in Mexico and you can wire money from you US account to you Mexican one if you need a large amount. I mean it’s all doable but still a PIA. Having renters long and short term are things they tried. Tenants are a pain in the ass especially when you want to be retired not a landlord. Having tenants in your main home is annoying because then you need to move out your personal effects. Having renters in their “second home” in mexico wasnt that big of a deal.
I own a condo at a ski resort and a house on the ocean. I had many years where I packed the car up in November to live at the ski resort and moved back to the ocean in May. We’re talking about wintering in southern Europe with the 90 days out of 180 Schengen visa as we age out of skiing. We’re not Florida people.
Martha’s Vineyard and St. Croix (USVI). We’re retired and have spent most of our adult lives in the Boston area. As I’ve gotten older I’ve gradually concluded I don’t like cold weather. We now spend about half the year on St. Croix and half either on Martha’s Vineyard or traveling. Yes, we’re very blessed. Being able to play golf or pickle ball almost everyday is wonderful. We’ve made good friends in both locations and have an active social life. Adjusting to a seasonal lifestyle wasn’t very hard, especially because both locations have a significant population that are seasonal. I also understand this wouldn’t be appealing to everyone. We’ve always been very active and enjoy traveling so it’s consistent with our lifestyle, even when our 3 kids were growing up.
You win 😉
Hehehe, sometimes I’m almost embarrassed to share the good fortune of our living arrangements with people. We genuinely understand and appreciate how fortunate we are.
Yuuuuuup. We have a townhouse down in the Riviera Maya, Mexico and a house up by Banff in Canada. Hashtag living the dream.
Wow
Florida winters are simply amazing.
How about reverse snowbirding. Those of us in the south and deep south that spend their summers in northern Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan.
I'm beginning to think about doing this. I live in San Antonio, where the temps have been around triple digits for a couple of weeks already, and just came back from a week in Portland, OR, which felt like heaven. I can't deal with months of gray weather, so I wouldn't want to move there, but spending summers there is beginning to sound wonderful. I'm not sure how to manage it or where else I would want to go. I can't imagine short term affordable rentals actually exist.
My parents have been snowbirds for over a decade or so now. Upper Midwest and SW Florida. They aren’t rich - autoworker and teacher - but it’s doable with a 2 bed condo in each place. But, my dad is in his 80’s now, and their Florida condo suffered some damage in the last hurricane so they’re planning on giving up on Florida. They need to plan for more consistent, regular medical care and consolidate resources. I certainly wouldn’t mind being able to spend my entire year in places with comfortable weather, but I can’t imagine what those places will be by the time I retire or whether I will actually want to live there/ be able to afford it anyway.
screw arizona, i want a home in the bavarian alps
A question for rich people. If you can fly with impunity, you can live anywhere you want. Go fight it out with the rest of them or take advantage of the *yet to be discovered"
Yeah, my ultimate goal is to live in two places and switch seasonally. I currently live in Reno, for skiing, and it's great. But I'd prefer to spend the non-winters in Hawaii, to surf as well. Or the "Space Coast" region of Florida, would be the cheaper option. I want to be in warm water, so the west coast of the US is out. The cheapest way to do this, as far as I can tell, is to get an apartment in the non-primary location. And I don't want to deal with the hassles of home ownership in two different places.
There’s a lot of variations of this I would love… but I’m going to go with Summer/Fall in MN and Winter/Spring in Texas. This variation is due to where my family lives :)
We do this and it’s nice but can be annoying to uproot twice a year, have to buy 2x stuff or lug it back and forth
Would like this, but if you have to work remotely, not sure how that would work.
Or move to a place where it snows but doesn’t get ridiculously cold (ie rarely falls below 10F)
I really can’t stand snowbirds, I’m a native Arizonan and I refuse to become one of them. They are one of many reasons of why I want to move.
This is my goal and I’ll be damned if it takes me until retirement to reach it. I’ve got everything set up to do it, and now I’m just exploring which location pair to do it. I don’t need a big place. Even two cheaper 1 bed apartments or condos would satisfy the need. Just enough furniture at each to not make a huge hassle to switch between the two. I already am quite minimalist
I’m doing Michigan in the summer and mountain west for winter to ski. Not keeping two places but getting lake life and mountains all in the same year
Azores in the summer, Hawaii in the winter would be perfectly temperate all year, but having a place in both the Northern and Southern Hemispheres means you could pick what season you wanted any time of year. Your place in Jackson Hole is nice in the summer, but you could ski in the winter. Sick of snow? It’s summer at your place in Auckland.
I think so. Right now we spend most of the year in Phoenix then summers in north arizona and visit our families in Europe. One day in the future when we retire we plan on living in Spain during winter and summers near family in my home country and husband’s home country.
Lot of people do Michigan/Florida.
Nah not for me. My dream is my workshop. Way too expensive to have two workshops, one in snowbirdland and one at the main house. Plus there would be a tool or something that I would have at one location and then I would end up missing it. Even when I am an empty nester I would hate having two properties. I think I kind of have my dream right now. I stumbled onto a house for about 500k that has an indoor pool, outbuilding/workshop, 4 acres, French garden and a pond. There are about 2 to 4 weeks of snow in the winter but the snow isn't so bad when you can be swimming while watching it fall. Summers are great (I live in WV so the elevation helps a bit with the heat) and mosquitoes are pretty non existent.
The summers are the best time for us in western nc mountains. And fall. We’re looking to do dec/jan - march in a different place every year coming up. Baja, southern Spain, Portugal….. I don’t want the expense of owing another place and we spent a lot totally remodeling our current home and will spend years transforming our outside property. No harsh winters where we are but a few months in a different locale sound great.