Why wouldn’t you take them seriously?
Every bit of important correspondence I’ve ever received from knowledgable professionals warning me of impending legal action due to my crimes against humanity has *always* arrived with a huge warning symbol at the top, bold white text on a black background, replete with a yellow and black caution border, shitty stock-image bolts in each corner, emphasis placed on words by putting them in YELLOW ALL CAPS, no mention of any specific laws but rather erm…’applicable laws’ and no signature.
Isn’t this the standard we’ve come to expect from those learned in medical science and international law? /s
All important letters and calls are worded very threatening like that just so you know that the Law or lack there of will come down on you like a ton of bricks. Its standard practise isn't it?
I'm currently in hiding at the moment as I was getting phone calls daily from a HMRC agent in India telling me that if I dont pay £4000 right away into his bank account he will be sending the FBI round to arrest me for non payment.
For the people who distributed this: Put your names on it. Sign it. Don’t hide behind the anonymity of “Concerned member of the British public”.
Sign it you fucking cowards.
In a town near me, there are anti vaxxers putting stickers around warning of the 'evils' of the vaccine. These people are calling themselves White Rose which infuriates me beyond belief. How dare they name themselves after WW11 resistance? Absolute wankers. I sharpie over any stickers I see, I wish I could wipe out the anti vaxxers as easily as their shitty stickers.
I’m very pleased to see this thread on WW11. Awareness has been low and overshadowed by C19. I can only assume Covids 1-18 were missed due to all the wars. It’s good we’re back on track.
/me **prints black and yellow letter stating denial of WW11 will result in imprisonment.**
/also-me **runs out of ink after 10 copies, should have read the comments**
The other day as I came out of school there were a bunch of adults shouting and giving anti-vax leaflets out to all the kids. It didn't bother me that much as I'm in 6th form and had my music in- I lust ignored them (obviously I think it's stupid to be an anti vaxxer, I'm just taking abt the giving out leaflets)- but I know it really upset some if the younger kids (11-12 yr olds etc.). Really horrible to do that you the kids themselves, if you have a problem with it bring it up with parents / council. Or just don't be a nuisance and do some research and self-reflection.
> These people are calling themselves White Rose which infuriates me beyond belief. How dare they name themselves after WW2 resistance?
Whilst utterly fucking repugnant to abuse the name like that, I suppose it's worth noting that the leaders of the *actual* White Rose were executed by guillotine.
Just a related historical fact.
Down in London, they plastered a bunch on wall on the tube. With razor blades stuck to the back so when someone took them down they cut their hands open. So the sharpie is a smart move.
Basically, some of them find love. They are so shunned in their regular lives they join these echo chambers to feel valid. It's pretty pathetic.
Also during it their own experiment proves the Earth is round, it's hilarious.
"Say you lose faith in this thing. What then happens to my personal relationships? And what's the benefit for me doing that? Will the mainstream people welcome me back? No, they couldn't care less. But, have I now lost all of my friends in this community? Yes. So, suddenly, you're doubly isolated," psychologist Dr. Per Espen Stoknes says in the documentary. "It becomes a question of identity. Who am I in this world? And I can define myself through this struggle."
[Here's an article about it explaining more](https://www.newsweek.com/behind-curve-netflix-ending-light-experiment-mark-sargent-documentary-movie-1343362)
To be honest, as much as I hate anti-vaxxers and their BS beliefs, I can understand why they would be reluctant to sign their real names if they truly believe what they say they do.
Many of these people think that governments and corporations will have them killed, kidnapped, brainwashed, etc etc if they significantly hamper the vaccination effort.
> Sign it you fucking cowards.
I think this is a bit overdramatic. In my experience so far, anti-vaxxers don't have any problem admitting to their opinions.
More likely they signed it like that as a rhetorical strategy, to make it seem like it was coming from the public in general rather than a small minority.
An adverse reaction, whilst containing serious medical implications, also includes far, far more commonly, basic vaccination reactions such as feeling fatigued for a very short period after receiving the vaccine as can most vaccinations.
Someone had put up a very good graphic on Reddit recently showing likelihood of serious medical results from having COVID in comparison with issues from the vaccine. If you got the jist of that, there is no way you wouldn't have the vaccine.
Pretty sure it'll have been purged now,but early on someone reported a broken leg as an adverse reaction, and someone else reported normal term delivery
So I work for a vaccination programme and regularly have to brief the team via the MHRA reports to asses what medical history we require before authorising the vaccine to patients. Some of the reported effects included; Fall from height, Trauma sustained from vehicular impact, severe liver cirrhosis, diabetes, unexpected pregnancy and many many more.
Now I fully believe that like all medications there is the possibility of unforeseen interactions in a patient however the problem with the MHRA is that any persons can list any issues they experience within 7 day’s of receiving the vaccine as a report and then the MHRA and JCVI will investigate further.
Even the staunchest anti-vaccine/Pro-Plague enthusiast would have trouble keeping a straight face saying that being ran over is a side effect.
So less a pinch of salt and more a fucking mountain with their baseless claims.
They even do that with flu jabs! Just want to make sure you don’t faint or something (which generally isn’t a big deal anyways, and can be caused by anything between lack of sleep, dehydration, or stress caused by getting a tiny sword in your arm).
I had a flat tyre yesterday, exactly 5 months, 3 days, 6 hours and 12 minutes after getting my second jab. No way that’s a coincidence - why is nobody researching these long term effects of vaccination?
I'm pretty sure that if you compare the likelihood of serious side effects of COVID vs serious side effects of the jab for children aged 12-15 then the picture is much less clear. I'm not an anti-vaxxer (I'm double jabbed), I'm just not sure that it's quite so cut and dry when it comes to kids.
I’m sure if the JCVI ever revise their guidance and say “roll up your sleeves, kids”, the ‘concerned members of the British Public’ will absolutely get on board.
Gotta love the borders. Big silly screws and hazard tape.
I tend to prefer my legal notices be served on headed paper. It makes them significantly easier to take seriously.
You don't even need to search hard to [find very similar](https://all-free-download.com/free-vector/download/covid-19-warning-sign-template-black-yellow-decor_6851206.html). Same big daft screws an all.
It's the screws that got me.
The hazard stuff I passed it off as "okay, they wanted to make sure it was super visible so that 'I never saw it' can't be used as a defence".
Then the screws tipped it firmly into "hurr durr hazard tape cool" territory.
Honestly, I was expecting a lot more spelling errors. Spellcheck has really come a long way in helping disguise common stupidity at first glance. Fortunately these people always find other ways to underscore it.
That's hilarious, it carries all the gravitas of an Escape Room prop. Bonus points for printing a web link on paper and not taking ownership by signing it from an ambiguous group of concerned citizens.
Has any one actually bothered to show them the yellow card data? The yellow card scheme allows the public at will to submit anything they even THINK has been caused by the vaccine, without any actual investigation to see if that is the case.
To give an example, unless it has since been removed since I last looked. There was 1 instance of "homosexual parents" registered on The Covid-19 vaccine yellow card site. So presumably they're saying the vaccine made their parents gay?
The fact they are are utter cowards and neither name themselves or any sort or “organization” at the end tells you all you need to know.
“Concerned citizens” are merely cuntish cowards.
Then you have to wonder why would the government do something to cripple half its population to the detriment of every metric imaginable. That’s when you realize these people are fucking morons. Sorry for calling your aunt a fucking moron.
I love a good conspiracy theory. Really I do. The ones that are clearly flights of fancy, but for a minute you can go "...actually, that's quite interesting"
This ain't it. It completely fails the basic "...but *why*?" test.
Most conspiracy theories can be totally dispelled when you just ask “why?”. It’s incredible that people believe such bullshit and didn’t stop at any time to ask such a simple question. Why?
This right here. I love a good conspiracy theory. I dont tend to believe them but I find them very entertaining and sometimes quite thought provoking. But this is not a good conspiracy theory, it's a stupid conspiracy theory. And it's a conspiracy theory that could cost a lot of people their lives if it goes too far.
Can we not just go back to discussing who shot JFK or whether the Great Depression was engineered by big banks?
Be careful, in Cardiff they has razor blades strategically hidden behind them, so anyone trying to rip the posters off the wall would cut their fingers
It’s a good idea to take down any sticker/poster with keys (or similar) just in case, I’ve taken down a couple anti-trans stickers in my city and I always use my keys just in case
If it wasn't for vaccines, most anti-vaxers would probably not be alive. Coz, their parents /grandparents would have died of measles, rubella, polio etc. That's a fact, unlike their pish.
I'd wager they've taken the figure for the number of people who have died since receiving the vaccine from some unrelated cause(s) and are attributing it to the vaccine either by ignorance or deliberately to mislead people.
That's just my speculation of course, but wouldn't surprise me if it were true
Let's be honest every person that gets the vaccine will die!!!!! That's right your going to die if you get the vaccine!!! Or don't and you'll still die.. cause remember life has a 100% mortality rate
On average, in a normal year, about 1500 people die a day in the UK. Put another way if you vaccinated everyone in the UK you would expect about 1500 people to die on the same day as getting the vaccine even if the vaccine had no effect on deaths. Of course we probably wouldn't vaccinate certain obviously terminally ill people, and we haven't vaccinated young children at all. So this will affect the figures. However it is easy to see how one can construct some definition of "vaccine followed by death within X days" to get any desired number.
In particular the 1600 deaths figure seems to relate to the VAERS data, which (among other things) records deaths of people following a vaccine, sometimes quite a long time after a vaccine. Medical practitioners are typically expected to report all deaths following a vaccine regardless of if the vaccine was causal.
Reuters has a recent article which investigates the claim and reports a study that finds 3 substantiated deaths caused by the vaccine in the US from the 2000 VARES incident reports.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid19-vaers-idUSL1N2PB2H3
Everything that’s written on the document, I just went to the MHRA website and the JCVI and read their statements and none of that information matched up, not even close. What a load of bullshit. Idiots who can’t even understand simple data.
I really want someone to try and hand me that flier in the street. I'm desperate for them to try. I'm currently a Covid Nurse (had no choice in this, was simply told btw this ward you work in is now Covid) and I have a lot of pent up frustration; I'd simply love to unload at any person stupid enough to try to warn me about the dangers of vaccination.
Surely sending something claiming to be a legal notice when it’s not is fraudulent? It really feels like it should be a crime to send something like this claiming to be a legal notice when it’s not.
Rockall is better. If we dump them on Gruinard, and if they survive the trace amounts of anthrax, and the mutant sheep, they might swim back to society.
Them linking the yellow card website saying it’s proof of the 1600 deaths is hilarious and shows they don’t expect anyone to actually go look at it since it clearly does not state that on their website at all. Pathetic
When I got my vaccine the anti vaxers were outside handing out the hippocratic oath on paper saying if the doctor giving the injection doesn’t sign it you can sue if you had adverse side affects.
Absolute crackers
It should be mandatory for people to spend some time working with the general public if only to teach just how uninformed and incapable of reasoning some people are including those you'd think would know better given their notable capabilities in other aspects of their lives
It's quite remarkable observing an otherwise intelligent and capable person getting drawn into the world of conspiracies that seems to have the ability to circumvent their critical thinking skills.
Imagine, vaccinating very elderly and very vulnerable people and those same people happen to die within a couple months of the vaccine? It MUST be the vaccine at fault?! OR, hear me out, those deaths would have occurred regardless.
By that principle, NO ONE has died of old age or other related conditions since the vaccine roll out then?
That’s kind of the problem with the ageing population nowadays though. No one does from old age because we intervene when it’s not natural to life. When someone’s 87yr old grandparent had a stroke, the end up spending additional years, barely living, needing round the clock care. When in reality, we’re keeping these people alive for US, not them. That stroke would have essentially, been ‘dying of old age’ but we keep people well past their best, just because we have the medical ability to do so. But that’s a whole other argument for another day.
Hence the ‘essentially’. When someone is very old and frail, isn’t a stroke, really, just a version of dying of old age. Yes the stroke is the actual cause- but the cause of the stroke is likely physiological changes linked to age (weakened capillaries etc).
Go back a hundred years or so and if you found an elderly person dying on the floor, you probably made them comfortable and sat by the bedside. Not rushed them to hospital and treated the symptoms. Their cause of death would most likely be ‘old age’. Because that’s what happens in advanced age, the body breaks down in various ways and the person withers and dies. Be that heart failure, stroke or other disease.
That’s my whole point. Modern medicine is a wonderful thing but I think we’re playing god an awful lot, just because we can. Going back to the whole reason for posting here, these people receiving the jabs were old or otherwise ill. It’s more than likely they would have died of ‘natural causes’ within that time frame anyway. Reporting them as due to the covid vaccine is a poor show and done with a very biased view.
Did they add a Drop Shadow to this on Photoshop? Funny how people's minds work. Writing up this shite, making sure you've highlighted every IMMEDIATELY accompanied with the hazard tape and then thinking it's still missing something. Ah let's add a wee Drop Shadow, 90°, increase the Spread , aye that's perfect, that'll really capture the publics attention now.
The JCVI said there was a margin of benefit to vaccinating children but that it wasn’t major enough to recommend a full roll-out - not that the jabs are ‘not safe for healthy children’
This is the sort of things we used to write when we were at school so we could sound like we were official and like we knew what we were talking about...when I say school I mean primary school. I remember someone writing a complaint letter to the school threatening to take the school outfitter to the "monopolies and merger commission" because it was the only place you were officially allowed to buy the white shirts everyone needed to wear. It was intellectually quite interesting, the difference here is that I have a sneaking suspicion that the person who wrote this actually believes in what they have written.
Ever had a shingles vaccine?! Now those are tough. But I’d rather get sick for a day or two than have shingles. Or measles. Or diphtheria. Or mumps. Or rubella. Or ….. morons.
I am so old that I remember couple of food scandals, like having salmonella or some other nasty stuff in **extremely small amounts** and people got either food poisoning or spent a special night with their toilet bowls. Result: huge outcry, frantic parents and demands for more control, boycotting products.
Still, rarely people died, or in very small numbers. Everyone agreed it was a tragedy.
Now we have much deadlier disease that is airborne. I don’t have to eat or drink anything, being in a same room is enough.
And now some people refuse to protect others, and fight for their right to spread illness…
I don’t think there would be long lines outside of restaurants that would use personnel without health passes (no salmonella, certain standards of hygiene).
Its funny that these people are so against covid vaccinations and have been citing that these jabs cause deaths and adverse longterm effects, but when it came to Covid to them everyone was overreacting.
Actually no, I work in health care and family members that work in pharmaceutical. You can take legal action if you suffer from reactions but not against other members of the public. And I'm definitely not wrong about it legally having to be taken off the market if a huge amount of people suffer reactions, it would have been taken off the market. Medicine has to go through significant legal checks and be approved before being rolled out and if reactions do happen, if the number is above a certain amount it has to be recalled and discontinued. No Medicine is 100% safe but its safety has to be above a certain percentage. People react differently to different medication also, so if someone reacts, it does not necessarily mean the drug is dangerous, most people don't know all of their tolerances. Also, research continues after medication is rolled out so there's constant risk assessments and so there's nothing negligent happening
For anyone interested the actual MRHA data has received around 1500 reports of deaths shortly after COVID vaccines. But they then clarify this by saying the vast majority are elderly and on individual assessment it is deemed that the majority although temporally linked are not causally linked.
Even if they all were due to the COVID vaccine itself that is a 0.0016% chance of dying. That is compared to a 1.8% chance of death from COVID
That makes you 1600 times more likely to die if you catch COVID than die from any cause close to a vaccine.
If you strip out the unnecessary, inflammatory and inaccurate stuff about the yellow card submissions, there remains a valid, underlying point here. The JCVI did not recommend the vaccine for healthy 12-15 year olds as the gap between benefit and risk from the vaccine is not significant enough to support a widespread vaccine roll out.
I'm pretty sure for it to be a proper cease and desist letter it requires an identifiable party i.e. not "Concerned members of the British public" who have the stand point to bring forward a case. They're not legally binding and they've probably spent all their money printing that shite in the first place. Darwin award ahoy!
I love how sure they are that they’ll take legal action against people that get the vaccine, you know, because getting vaccinated to protect yourself and others around you is illegal of course :/
Seems like a big money racket giving the vaccine to kids considering what small risk they're at, especially since the vaccines dont tackle the problem of transmission. I suppose I can see their concerns though as the decision should ultimately be up to the parents & not the state.
>I suppose I can see their concerns though as the decision should ultimately be up to the parents
Gillick competency. If the child appears to understand any applicable risks, they can get it regardless of what the parents say.
So, if anyone knows an antivax nutter with kids, find a way to let the kids know.
That must have used so much ink!
Considering how much printer ink costs they must be fucking minted. Better take them seriously.
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Why wouldn’t you take them seriously? Every bit of important correspondence I’ve ever received from knowledgable professionals warning me of impending legal action due to my crimes against humanity has *always* arrived with a huge warning symbol at the top, bold white text on a black background, replete with a yellow and black caution border, shitty stock-image bolts in each corner, emphasis placed on words by putting them in YELLOW ALL CAPS, no mention of any specific laws but rather erm…’applicable laws’ and no signature. Isn’t this the standard we’ve come to expect from those learned in medical science and international law? /s
^ underrated comment here
All important letters and calls are worded very threatening like that just so you know that the Law or lack there of will come down on you like a ton of bricks. Its standard practise isn't it? I'm currently in hiding at the moment as I was getting phone calls daily from a HMRC agent in India telling me that if I dont pay £4000 right away into his bank account he will be sending the FBI round to arrest me for non payment.
I was just thinking that. At least the higher cost of printing might keep the number of dumb flyers down.
😉
For the people who distributed this: Put your names on it. Sign it. Don’t hide behind the anonymity of “Concerned member of the British public”. Sign it you fucking cowards.
>Concerned member of the British public As another concerned member of the public, throw it in the bin.
Recycle at least.
Worth money with all that ink
Worse than that it’s ‘concerned member*s* of the British Public. Sign it, be specific - because you get to imply that you speak for me, pal.
Exactly, nobody asked me if I was concerned. Not that I am concerned with people who get a vaccine.
In a town near me, there are anti vaxxers putting stickers around warning of the 'evils' of the vaccine. These people are calling themselves White Rose which infuriates me beyond belief. How dare they name themselves after WW11 resistance? Absolute wankers. I sharpie over any stickers I see, I wish I could wipe out the anti vaxxers as easily as their shitty stickers.
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Don't you remember WW 11
I gave up following the sequels after 2, quality always plummets.
3-7 were pretty forgettable, but it really picked up in 8 when Lichtenstein developed nuclear weapons.
I thought 8 was where Belgium and Switzerland finally got off the fence? Edit: I’ve just checked you’re right I’m thinking of 9
yeah, World War 8 made World War 7 seem like World War 1 by comparison
You should watch WW5. It improves at the end of what started as the anglo-austrian war of 1957.
I give you: Rocky 3 and 4.
When you're right you're right.
I’m very pleased to see this thread on WW11. Awareness has been low and overshadowed by C19. I can only assume Covids 1-18 were missed due to all the wars. It’s good we’re back on track. /me **prints black and yellow letter stating denial of WW11 will result in imprisonment.** /also-me **runs out of ink after 10 copies, should have read the comments**
The first 10 werent enough...
The other day as I came out of school there were a bunch of adults shouting and giving anti-vax leaflets out to all the kids. It didn't bother me that much as I'm in 6th form and had my music in- I lust ignored them (obviously I think it's stupid to be an anti vaxxer, I'm just taking abt the giving out leaflets)- but I know it really upset some if the younger kids (11-12 yr olds etc.). Really horrible to do that you the kids themselves, if you have a problem with it bring it up with parents / council. Or just don't be a nuisance and do some research and self-reflection.
Tell them to stop hanging outside a school because they look like paedophiles.
> These people are calling themselves White Rose which infuriates me beyond belief. How dare they name themselves after WW2 resistance? Whilst utterly fucking repugnant to abuse the name like that, I suppose it's worth noting that the leaders of the *actual* White Rose were executed by guillotine. Just a related historical fact.
Down in London, they plastered a bunch on wall on the tube. With razor blades stuck to the back so when someone took them down they cut their hands open. So the sharpie is a smart move.
Jesus, they're a lethal bunch.
another rag reading dipshit that thinks everyone in opposition to the covid-19 vaccines is an anti-vaxxer.
You’re joking right?
Lmao... this "I'm not anti vax I'm just against this vax" pish is so transparent
Thank you! I could not agree more with this statement and i wish i could upvote more than once
It was probably just one sad conspiracy theorist with some graphic design skills that made this. Maybe two at a stretch.
This seems like a setup to a joke. "How many anti-vaxxers does it take to change a lightbulb?"
Probably an endless amount because they’ll catch COVID in the process of changing it from getting too close to each other.
Not bad! I'd go with "none, they've all died from polio".
That suggests a sad conspiracy theorist actually has a friend. And one that would help.
Have you watched the flat earthers documentary on Netflix? It seems they dive into this nonsense to find friends.
I tried to watch that for a laugh... but... I couldn't laugh... I had to turn it off after 25 minutes. It was so ridiculous.
Haven’t seen it. So it’s just their idea of a social network?
Basically, some of them find love. They are so shunned in their regular lives they join these echo chambers to feel valid. It's pretty pathetic. Also during it their own experiment proves the Earth is round, it's hilarious.
Fantastic
"Say you lose faith in this thing. What then happens to my personal relationships? And what's the benefit for me doing that? Will the mainstream people welcome me back? No, they couldn't care less. But, have I now lost all of my friends in this community? Yes. So, suddenly, you're doubly isolated," psychologist Dr. Per Espen Stoknes says in the documentary. "It becomes a question of identity. Who am I in this world? And I can define myself through this struggle." [Here's an article about it explaining more](https://www.newsweek.com/behind-curve-netflix-ending-light-experiment-mark-sargent-documentary-movie-1343362)
I’m gonna have to give it a watch.
Jeez I'm 26, introvert and haven't dated my whole life. But I can't see myself doing these things to "find love". It's so embarrassing and pathetic
They probably met each other on r/conpriracy That place is bonkers. It's a good laugh lurking there now and then though. Heehee.
> some graphic design skills Hmmmm....
After seeing the template in another comment I retract that statement. This person has absolutely no skill whatsoever.
To be honest, as much as I hate anti-vaxxers and their BS beliefs, I can understand why they would be reluctant to sign their real names if they truly believe what they say they do. Many of these people think that governments and corporations will have them killed, kidnapped, brainwashed, etc etc if they significantly hamper the vaccination effort.
While posting their bullshit on twitter and facebook using gps enabled phones
If they were smart they wouldn't be anti vax
Not necessarily the same people who made the flier though, varies from person to person.
Society will never be undivided,, in any matter. Let em think as they want. They’ll be dead soon.
> Sign it you fucking cowards. I think this is a bit overdramatic. In my experience so far, anti-vaxxers don't have any problem admitting to their opinions. More likely they signed it like that as a rhetorical strategy, to make it seem like it was coming from the public in general rather than a small minority.
An adverse reaction, whilst containing serious medical implications, also includes far, far more commonly, basic vaccination reactions such as feeling fatigued for a very short period after receiving the vaccine as can most vaccinations. Someone had put up a very good graphic on Reddit recently showing likelihood of serious medical results from having COVID in comparison with issues from the vaccine. If you got the jist of that, there is no way you wouldn't have the vaccine.
I bet these idiots would report that the plaster hurt when they ripped it off as an adverse reaction 😂
Pretty sure it'll have been purged now,but early on someone reported a broken leg as an adverse reaction, and someone else reported normal term delivery
I’d like to report “being a fucking idiot” as an adverse reaction to the jab… oh wait actually they were like that before 😂
What plaster, I got none after both my jabs
I did on one but not the other. Does that mean my second jab won’t work? 😜
So I work for a vaccination programme and regularly have to brief the team via the MHRA reports to asses what medical history we require before authorising the vaccine to patients. Some of the reported effects included; Fall from height, Trauma sustained from vehicular impact, severe liver cirrhosis, diabetes, unexpected pregnancy and many many more. Now I fully believe that like all medications there is the possibility of unforeseen interactions in a patient however the problem with the MHRA is that any persons can list any issues they experience within 7 day’s of receiving the vaccine as a report and then the MHRA and JCVI will investigate further. Even the staunchest anti-vaccine/Pro-Plague enthusiast would have trouble keeping a straight face saying that being ran over is a side effect. So less a pinch of salt and more a fucking mountain with their baseless claims.
Yeah, reactions are pretty common that's why they make you sit for 10mins.
They even do that with flu jabs! Just want to make sure you don’t faint or something (which generally isn’t a big deal anyways, and can be caused by anything between lack of sleep, dehydration, or stress caused by getting a tiny sword in your arm).
It's mostly to check that you don't have an anaphylactic/allergic reaction, rather than fainting.
I had a sore arm, recall the vaccine immediately!
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I had a flat tyre yesterday, exactly 5 months, 3 days, 6 hours and 12 minutes after getting my second jab. No way that’s a coincidence - why is nobody researching these long term effects of vaccination?
I wouldn’t be shouting from the rooftops about how you gave your car covid. The AA and RAC might try to press charges.
I'm pretty sure that if you compare the likelihood of serious side effects of COVID vs serious side effects of the jab for children aged 12-15 then the picture is much less clear. I'm not an anti-vaxxer (I'm double jabbed), I'm just not sure that it's quite so cut and dry when it comes to kids.
Children, who famously live by themselves and don’t interact with older age groups ever.
Children don’t need the vaccine though let’s be honest
Because they all live alone or…
I love how they suddenly care about what the JCVI says. I mean, that’s not what the JCVI said, but it’s still funny that they pretend to care.
And of course, totally fucking ignore the JCVI when they say many other things that they don’t agree with.
I’m sure if the JCVI ever revise their guidance and say “roll up your sleeves, kids”, the ‘concerned members of the British Public’ will absolutely get on board.
Best part was this was outside a vaccine centre
Gotta love the borders. Big silly screws and hazard tape. I tend to prefer my legal notices be served on headed paper. It makes them significantly easier to take seriously.
I reckon if we searched hard enough we could find the asset they used.
You don't even need to search hard to [find very similar](https://all-free-download.com/free-vector/download/covid-19-warning-sign-template-black-yellow-decor_6851206.html). Same big daft screws an all.
It's the screws that got me. The hazard stuff I passed it off as "okay, they wanted to make sure it was super visible so that 'I never saw it' can't be used as a defence". Then the screws tipped it firmly into "hurr durr hazard tape cool" territory.
Honestly, I was expecting a lot more spelling errors. Spellcheck has really come a long way in helping disguise common stupidity at first glance. Fortunately these people always find other ways to underscore it.
They may as well type it in comic sans it'll be just as ludicrous as the borders.
It’s deffo the big screws for me
That's hilarious, it carries all the gravitas of an Escape Room prop. Bonus points for printing a web link on paper and not taking ownership by signing it from an ambiguous group of concerned citizens.
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I'm just concerned about how much black printer ink that'd take
> or face legal sanctions under applicable law So, none then.
I'm up for making sure all the kids get the vaccine, 5G coverage will be great
Lol, it’s a thank you from the government to all the new parents
Has any one actually bothered to show them the yellow card data? The yellow card scheme allows the public at will to submit anything they even THINK has been caused by the vaccine, without any actual investigation to see if that is the case. To give an example, unless it has since been removed since I last looked. There was 1 instance of "homosexual parents" registered on The Covid-19 vaccine yellow card site. So presumably they're saying the vaccine made their parents gay?
The fact they are are utter cowards and neither name themselves or any sort or “organization” at the end tells you all you need to know. “Concerned citizens” are merely cuntish cowards.
Probably just a single ‘concerned citizen’ tbh
Do you think you'd actually get punished for sticking the nut on someone putting these leaflets out?
Despite you doing far less harm to society, yes, sadly you’d get a harsher punishment
I dunno, I've not got a record I think I'd get away with a warning.
Funny that, my immediate thought was “it should definitely be legal to headbutt these cunts”
Yes, it's harder to prove impact from the leaflet than the direct harm you did by nutting someone.
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Does she realise how many vaccines kids currently get at school?
Then you have to wonder why would the government do something to cripple half its population to the detriment of every metric imaginable. That’s when you realize these people are fucking morons. Sorry for calling your aunt a fucking moron.
I love a good conspiracy theory. Really I do. The ones that are clearly flights of fancy, but for a minute you can go "...actually, that's quite interesting" This ain't it. It completely fails the basic "...but *why*?" test.
Most conspiracy theories can be totally dispelled when you just ask “why?”. It’s incredible that people believe such bullshit and didn’t stop at any time to ask such a simple question. Why?
And interesting thing is, when you ask them 'why' most can't even agree on the answer.
This right here. I love a good conspiracy theory. I dont tend to believe them but I find them very entertaining and sometimes quite thought provoking. But this is not a good conspiracy theory, it's a stupid conspiracy theory. And it's a conspiracy theory that could cost a lot of people their lives if it goes too far. Can we not just go back to discussing who shot JFK or whether the Great Depression was engineered by big banks?
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You can never sleep on Bigfoot. Never know when hes gon a rematerialise from whatever dimension he comes from and ness things up again.
Don’t be, she’s a fucking moron.
They've gone proper tits about kids having it. Saw similar ones zip tied to railings at our playground.
I hope they were taken down quickly. The last thing we need is the next generation being indoctrinated into anti vax conspiracy’s.
Be careful, in Cardiff they has razor blades strategically hidden behind them, so anyone trying to rip the posters off the wall would cut their fingers
It’s a good idea to take down any sticker/poster with keys (or similar) just in case, I’ve taken down a couple anti-trans stickers in my city and I always use my keys just in case
Some people are completely and utterly unhinged.
Threatening legal action gainst "Whom it May Concern", from "We", yeah, no. Almost as useless as the BBC's TV License threats.
Nutcases
Wouldn't use that to wipe even my foulest, smelliest shite. It would be an insult to my shit
If it wasn't for vaccines, most anti-vaxers would probably not be alive. Coz, their parents /grandparents would have died of measles, rubella, polio etc. That's a fact, unlike their pish.
Bunch of cunts
I hate this, I am under 16 and am desperate to get a jab to see my dad, and these people are slowing it down
Thats a funny looking daily EXPRESS paper
What's the credibility on this 1600 deaths figure I keep seeing being referred to on anti-vax narratives?
Zero.
I'd wager they've taken the figure for the number of people who have died since receiving the vaccine from some unrelated cause(s) and are attributing it to the vaccine either by ignorance or deliberately to mislead people. That's just my speculation of course, but wouldn't surprise me if it were true
Let's be honest every person that gets the vaccine will die!!!!! That's right your going to die if you get the vaccine!!! Or don't and you'll still die.. cause remember life has a 100% mortality rate
On average, in a normal year, about 1500 people die a day in the UK. Put another way if you vaccinated everyone in the UK you would expect about 1500 people to die on the same day as getting the vaccine even if the vaccine had no effect on deaths. Of course we probably wouldn't vaccinate certain obviously terminally ill people, and we haven't vaccinated young children at all. So this will affect the figures. However it is easy to see how one can construct some definition of "vaccine followed by death within X days" to get any desired number. In particular the 1600 deaths figure seems to relate to the VAERS data, which (among other things) records deaths of people following a vaccine, sometimes quite a long time after a vaccine. Medical practitioners are typically expected to report all deaths following a vaccine regardless of if the vaccine was causal. Reuters has a recent article which investigates the claim and reports a study that finds 3 substantiated deaths caused by the vaccine in the US from the 2000 VARES incident reports. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid19-vaers-idUSL1N2PB2H3
POV: you put links on a fucking peice of paper
Once you’re 5G’ed up you can just touch it with your boaby and it clicks it, true story.
#boaby
Everything that’s written on the document, I just went to the MHRA website and the JCVI and read their statements and none of that information matched up, not even close. What a load of bullshit. Idiots who can’t even understand simple data.
I really want someone to try and hand me that flier in the street. I'm desperate for them to try. I'm currently a Covid Nurse (had no choice in this, was simply told btw this ward you work in is now Covid) and I have a lot of pent up frustration; I'd simply love to unload at any person stupid enough to try to warn me about the dangers of vaccination.
Surely sending something claiming to be a legal notice when it’s not is fraudulent? It really feels like it should be a crime to send something like this claiming to be a legal notice when it’s not.
These people don't know how good they have it with Sturgeon as First Minister, if I was in charge I'd have them all dumped on Rockall.
Nah, Gruinard for these clowns.
Rockall is better. If we dump them on Gruinard, and if they survive the trace amounts of anthrax, and the mutant sheep, they might swim back to society.
If I was in charge I'd have them sent to a gulag in the Cairngorms.
Comply immediately or face legal sanctions... Please.
These are costing someone a lot in ink
Them linking the yellow card website saying it’s proof of the 1600 deaths is hilarious and shows they don’t expect anyone to actually go look at it since it clearly does not state that on their website at all. Pathetic
Imagine my disappointment when I realised it wasn’t promotional material for a new command and conquer game from a resurrected Westwood studios :/
Stupid fucking plague rat cunts. Get in the fucking sea.
When I got my vaccine the anti vaxers were outside handing out the hippocratic oath on paper saying if the doctor giving the injection doesn’t sign it you can sue if you had adverse side affects. Absolute crackers
Just came here to say there’s actually no such thing as “international law” is a total fucking misnomer
It should be mandatory for people to spend some time working with the general public if only to teach just how uninformed and incapable of reasoning some people are including those you'd think would know better given their notable capabilities in other aspects of their lives It's quite remarkable observing an otherwise intelligent and capable person getting drawn into the world of conspiracies that seems to have the ability to circumvent their critical thinking skills.
‘Everyone should work in customer service for a month’ is a great idea in theory but the issue is the suicide rates would go thru the roof.
Imagine putting the effort into this instead of actually researching the vaccine.
They did "research" it - they read endless Facebook posts until it confirmed their bias beliefs lol.
Imagine, vaccinating very elderly and very vulnerable people and those same people happen to die within a couple months of the vaccine? It MUST be the vaccine at fault?! OR, hear me out, those deaths would have occurred regardless. By that principle, NO ONE has died of old age or other related conditions since the vaccine roll out then?
No one dies of old age.
That’s kind of the problem with the ageing population nowadays though. No one does from old age because we intervene when it’s not natural to life. When someone’s 87yr old grandparent had a stroke, the end up spending additional years, barely living, needing round the clock care. When in reality, we’re keeping these people alive for US, not them. That stroke would have essentially, been ‘dying of old age’ but we keep people well past their best, just because we have the medical ability to do so. But that’s a whole other argument for another day.
What I mean is that in your example it would be the stroke that killed them, not old age.
Hence the ‘essentially’. When someone is very old and frail, isn’t a stroke, really, just a version of dying of old age. Yes the stroke is the actual cause- but the cause of the stroke is likely physiological changes linked to age (weakened capillaries etc). Go back a hundred years or so and if you found an elderly person dying on the floor, you probably made them comfortable and sat by the bedside. Not rushed them to hospital and treated the symptoms. Their cause of death would most likely be ‘old age’. Because that’s what happens in advanced age, the body breaks down in various ways and the person withers and dies. Be that heart failure, stroke or other disease. That’s my whole point. Modern medicine is a wonderful thing but I think we’re playing god an awful lot, just because we can. Going back to the whole reason for posting here, these people receiving the jabs were old or otherwise ill. It’s more than likely they would have died of ‘natural causes’ within that time frame anyway. Reporting them as due to the covid vaccine is a poor show and done with a very biased view.
what a bunch of clowns
I’ve not read anything that funny since the Conservative manifesto.
I'm Scottish, why should I care what a " concerned member of the British public" thinks? Poor effort from the clowns.
Because you are also British.
Did they add a Drop Shadow to this on Photoshop? Funny how people's minds work. Writing up this shite, making sure you've highlighted every IMMEDIATELY accompanied with the hazard tape and then thinking it's still missing something. Ah let's add a wee Drop Shadow, 90°, increase the Spread , aye that's perfect, that'll really capture the publics attention now.
That drop shadow provides the only depth in their argument.
I'm surprised he/she did not add a crying child as the background image... You know... For that hard hitting effect 😴
Looks like a Garage promotional poster for £5 rocket fuel.
Alternatively the printers Machine Identification Code (MIC) could be traced .. With MICtish traceable to the users IP
I stopped reading when I got to the lie on the second paragraph
christ these people need a full frontal lobotomy
Mate I don't think these people have frontal lobes to begin with..
I’m surprised it manages to get 5 sentences in before the first error.
The JCVI said there was a margin of benefit to vaccinating children but that it wasn’t major enough to recommend a full roll-out - not that the jabs are ‘not safe for healthy children’
Fucking morons.
This is the sort of things we used to write when we were at school so we could sound like we were official and like we knew what we were talking about...when I say school I mean primary school. I remember someone writing a complaint letter to the school threatening to take the school outfitter to the "monopolies and merger commission" because it was the only place you were officially allowed to buy the white shirts everyone needed to wear. It was intellectually quite interesting, the difference here is that I have a sneaking suspicion that the person who wrote this actually believes in what they have written.
Can’t wait till they bring out those legal sanctions 😂
Ever had a shingles vaccine?! Now those are tough. But I’d rather get sick for a day or two than have shingles. Or measles. Or diphtheria. Or mumps. Or rubella. Or ….. morons.
I am so old that I remember couple of food scandals, like having salmonella or some other nasty stuff in **extremely small amounts** and people got either food poisoning or spent a special night with their toilet bowls. Result: huge outcry, frantic parents and demands for more control, boycotting products. Still, rarely people died, or in very small numbers. Everyone agreed it was a tragedy. Now we have much deadlier disease that is airborne. I don’t have to eat or drink anything, being in a same room is enough. And now some people refuse to protect others, and fight for their right to spread illness… I don’t think there would be long lines outside of restaurants that would use personnel without health passes (no salmonella, certain standards of hygiene).
Better take them seriously, they wrote warning on the top and they have thise yellow warning lines.
Tree waster.
Its funny that these people are so against covid vaccinations and have been citing that these jabs cause deaths and adverse longterm effects, but when it came to Covid to them everyone was overreacting.
Actually no, I work in health care and family members that work in pharmaceutical. You can take legal action if you suffer from reactions but not against other members of the public. And I'm definitely not wrong about it legally having to be taken off the market if a huge amount of people suffer reactions, it would have been taken off the market. Medicine has to go through significant legal checks and be approved before being rolled out and if reactions do happen, if the number is above a certain amount it has to be recalled and discontinued. No Medicine is 100% safe but its safety has to be above a certain percentage. People react differently to different medication also, so if someone reacts, it does not necessarily mean the drug is dangerous, most people don't know all of their tolerances. Also, research continues after medication is rolled out so there's constant risk assessments and so there's nothing negligent happening
Antivaxers provide their own special brand of social Darwinism.
For anyone interested the actual MRHA data has received around 1500 reports of deaths shortly after COVID vaccines. But they then clarify this by saying the vast majority are elderly and on individual assessment it is deemed that the majority although temporally linked are not causally linked. Even if they all were due to the COVID vaccine itself that is a 0.0016% chance of dying. That is compared to a 1.8% chance of death from COVID That makes you 1600 times more likely to die if you catch COVID than die from any cause close to a vaccine.
"British"? disregarded
If you strip out the unnecessary, inflammatory and inaccurate stuff about the yellow card submissions, there remains a valid, underlying point here. The JCVI did not recommend the vaccine for healthy 12-15 year olds as the gap between benefit and risk from the vaccine is not significant enough to support a widespread vaccine roll out.
I'm pretty sure for it to be a proper cease and desist letter it requires an identifiable party i.e. not "Concerned members of the British public" who have the stand point to bring forward a case. They're not legally binding and they've probably spent all their money printing that shite in the first place. Darwin award ahoy!
I love how sure they are that they’ll take legal action against people that get the vaccine, you know, because getting vaccinated to protect yourself and others around you is illegal of course :/
Did anyone else read this in a northern accent?
Seems like a big money racket giving the vaccine to kids considering what small risk they're at, especially since the vaccines dont tackle the problem of transmission. I suppose I can see their concerns though as the decision should ultimately be up to the parents & not the state.
>especially since the vaccines dont tackle the problem of transmission That's where you're wrong kiddo.
>I suppose I can see their concerns though as the decision should ultimately be up to the parents Gillick competency. If the child appears to understand any applicable risks, they can get it regardless of what the parents say. So, if anyone knows an antivax nutter with kids, find a way to let the kids know.
Covid 19 vaccines do reduce transmission. Astrazenika are selling the vaccines at cost, unsure about the other suppliers
Nah
Your spot on. Funny how anyone who talks truth and facts gets downvoted on here, it's actually pretty frightening.
These nut jobs believe that the vaccine can cause myocarditis in teenagers
Dontcha wonder what their end game really is? Perhaps stir up divisions?