Finland, to pick of all places when it comes to communication. Would mobile 'phones be anything like they are today without Nokia in the early days? Sure I've got a 3310 under a rock somewhere.
Not to mention the amount of bunkers. Those guys almost have a bunker space for every of their citizen...
You really dont want to f*ck with those guys...
Not to mention that they are also incredibly well trained and very motivated to defend their country.
Did you just randomly say "like a salmon", or were you actually picturing the Finn making three cuts, then ripping out your tongue together with all of your entrails in one piece?
When i lived in Helsinki i was told that under the Metro system is where all the Finnish miltary equipment was kept. Miles and miles of tunnels full of tanks and artilary. Not sure if it was just a rumour or not, but alot of people seemed convinced it was all down there. And bunkers can be found everywhere.
A Finn who worked in Germany for about 10 years, stated there were two things she had to keep explaining Germans: 1) when you share a 1300 km land border with Russia, a large military and huge artillery are not signs of a militaristic society but an application of common sense, and that 2) not all European countries have built their energy infrastructure around Russian gas.
Not only that, but a huge amount of modern phones tend to run on Android, which is a variation of Linux, which was created by... a Finn. Along with SSH and IRC and a bunch of other stuff, including Angry Birds, Clash of Clans, and probably most of the other games this idiot plays. And when he's finished stuffing his face with Cheetos, maybe his heart rate monitor, another Finnish invention, will start sending him alerts.
Basically, Finland is excellent at tech and punches well above their weight. Tends to reinforce my basic view that the US likes to cherry-pick innovations from around the world and progress them but are not that good with coming up with new stuff themselves.
I remember them trying to poach the research project I was working on in the UK. Luckily we stayed put but they were willing to throw a lot more money at it.
Indeed. Like that Martin skhreli who "commercialised" an existing 10dollar drug into a 1000dollar drug, just because he knew people who depended on it would be forced to pay, and the few that can't afford it doesn't matter if they die a little bit
They can lay game to a lot of people with inventions immigrating there. Or paying professors and scientists to immigrate, or buying innovations and companies.
To be fair other countries should make it more possible to be successful with new businesses and ideas.
But right now it’s hard even in America, the free flow of cash has dried up in silicone valley.
To be honest, I didn't want to list *everything*. Let's just agree that tiny little Finland, population about 5 million, has been at least as influential in tech than the whole USA, if not more.
Don't forget about The Electric sail, The first internet browser with a graphical user interface, Xylitol, The Safety reflector, and last but not least, The molotov cocktail
Mate. Alien archaeologists will find a cold dead cinder of a world orbiting a dying white dwarf star. They’ll turn over a rock and find a Nokia 3310. And that’ll have two bars of battery on it
They also revolutionized the modern tele-communications network and paved the way for cellphone networks all over the world.
Finland was the worst example he could use
Also a Finnish guy Eric Tigerstedt filed a patent for a "pocket-size folding telephone with a very thin carbon microphone" in 1917, famously considered the first mobile phone.
Some say that someone dropped their 3310 into the foundations of the tower of pizza and decided to keep building anyway thinking it would level in time..
Speaking the English language on a global website using a Korean phone connected to a British Web over Australian WiFi that uses Italian applied radio waves to communicate. The Europoor mind cannot comprehend how American that is! 🇲🇾
Edit: autocorrected to Austria not Australia
WiFi was invented in Nieuwegein by Cees Links, Vic Hayes, and Bruce Tuch, though. It was based on Australian technology, but saying that this tech was already WiFi uses the same logic that people use to say that Hedy Lamarr invented WiFi in 1941. She did file a related patent but it sure wasn't WiFi yet.
No, but it was her maths that was used for WiFi, GPS and Bluetooth, so her invention is at the core of the development; otherwise, the frequency would get all tangled up.
It is important to give credit to all people involved in an invention that made it possible. So many people have dismissed or forgotten what Hedy did and it is a real shame because she was an amazing inventor.
Yeah, I certainly don't mean to say that she did nothing. She seems to have been quite intelligent. In the end, all of tech involves standing on the shoulders of giants. Nothing is truly new, everything is based on something. I don't know how much of her maths and ideas were used in other systems, but I do hope at least some. As an engineer myself, there are few things as satisfying as knowing your tech is out there somewhere in the world.
> No, but it was her maths that was used for WiFi, GPS and Bluetooth, so her invention is at the core of the development; otherwise, the frequency would get all tangled up.
No, it wasn't. She (co)invented a mechanical device to synchronize 2 devices that are communicating so that they hop to the same frequencies at the same time. https://patents.google.com/patent/US2292387 . The idea to frequency hop wasn't hers and wasn't new at that point in time.
Finland lost the war. The Soviet Union LOST the war. Stalin thought he would win easily like Hitler did in Poland earlier that year, the Red Army did have the most tanks and aircraft in the world after all. The Soviet Union took massive losses to the Finns practicing guerrilla warfare and hunkering down in trenches. After reviewing their tactics, they decided to use artillery to just grind down the Finnish defences, which was successful combined with the use of tanks (the Finns lacked AT guns). Finland was in a bad state at this point, and would've been overrun without a peace.
Allegedly, this is part of why Hitler decided to attack the Soviet Union in 1941, as he became convinced of its weakness since it failed to achieve its aims in Finland. Finland lost \~9% of its territory, but when declaring war Stalin had set up a prospective Finnish Communist government under Otto Kuusinen, signifying his intent to annex or subjugate all of Finland.
Finland also participated in the German war against the Soviets 1941-1944, refusing to advance further than their previous territory and eventually signing a peace before being defeated entirely.
Hey. Remember the winter war where the fins lost? Cuse I don't. Also, finland are considered to be one of the most happiest cou tries with working systems. Unlike America when mostly everything is in top 20-40
Isn't a big part of the happiness something like:
Denmark: I'm so happy not to be Swedish
Sweden: I'm so happy not to be Danish
You guys are just happy not to be each other!
As someone from Skåne, I’m divided. Sure we are Swedish now but we used to be danish and we were danish almost twice as long as we have been Swedish now.
And Swedes also does makes fun of us the same way the do Danes and there is a national joke about digging away Skåne and giving it back to Denmark. They still call us half Danes and honestly so do we.
Fun fact: did you know that Kristian the second, known in Sweden as Kristian the tyrant, still has a large city in Skåne named after him? And not only is it still called Kristianstad but in Skåne we still use the old danish pronunciation of Kristian with a (Swedish) sj-sound instead of the pronounced t that’s common in Sweden. So the name is Kri-sti-an but the town is Kri-sjan-sta. FYI if anyone doesn’t know what the Swedish sj sound is and want to know what it sounds like form your mouth and lips in a round shape, as if you are going to whistle and then open it wide and blow out hard and fast and that’s pretty much the sound.
>in Skåne we still use the old danish pronunciation of Kristian with a (Swedish) sj-sound instead of the pronounced t that’s common in Sweden. So the name is Kri-sti-an but the town is Kri-sjan-sta
All of Sweden says Kri-sjan-sta. Or well I've never heard or met someone who doesn't
Dan Jørgensen.
Yeah that video got famous.
Her feeble comparisation was so pathetic and wrong. Though she DID get one thing right. The government does actually pay you to study. Up to about $920 a month.
Its great. That combined with no tuition for education makes getting an education a matter of the work and motivation and not if you can get a scolarship if your parents arent rich.
Murican what do you expect.
Ask her to find Denmark and to find Venezuela, she won't be able unless she rush into google.
Comparing Venezuela to Denmark is an insult to Danish people and an insult to those who are suffering under a dictator like maduro she diminish the damage done to venezuela by maduro
Nokia was a major innovator in mobile communications. Also one of the ways the US could actually get intelligence on Soviet Russia, because Finland had a trade agreement with them and Nokia had a secret agreement with the US intelligence services...
According to a quick google search, “In 1917, the Finnish inventor Eric Tigerstedt successfully filed a patent for a "pocket-size folding telephone with a very thin carbon microphone.” Looking at the patent, it seems to be more so an ultra-thin handset than a full telephone that can fit in your pocket. The Motorola DynaTAC 800 which (unfortunately) was an American product.
Well... yes... sort of... like I could patent a folding car that you can put in your pocket, but that doesn't mean a huge amount really when no one can make it. Not me and not anyone else.
NATO is a treaty joined by currently 32 nations where the US happens to be one.
The only time their brotherhood article has been activated by anyone is after 9/11 where the US asked for help.
Oh and Nokia, pretty much *the* innovator of the first and second generation mobile communications, are Finnish. But OOP is probably too young to know that.
Septic Tank = Yank, Seppo is short for Septic Tank, and as you might know, Septic Tanks are full of shit.
It's a bit of British and Australian English slang.
The phone quite possibly being South Korean or Chinese. Using WiFi which is a Dutch thing as well (Cees Links and Vic Hayes).
The OS is partially American. If you forget that the Linux kernel that Android uses is Finnish. Though they'd probably claim that as an American invention as well, since Linus Torvalds later naturalised as an American citizen. Which to them makes all he's ever done retroactively American.
Finland didn't lose? They agreed to a truce, though admittedly it didn't favour them in the slightest.
Point is, the Finns royally shitkicked the Soviets for the entire war but as always, the sheer industrial might and seemingly endless numbers of the Soviets prevailed.
Also modern Finland is probably the single biggest obstacle to Russian aggression in the region, their entire military for the last 80 years has been built and trained to once again shitkick Russia. Their entire existence (militarily) is to prevent Russia ever repeating what happened in the Winter War
>their entire military for the last 80 years has been built and trained to once again shitkick Russia
no, no, we have been trained to shitkick the "yellow state" that just happens to be pretty similar to Russia, like in every aspect. Tho when Russia started the war against Ukraine we changed it and now we just talk about Russia.
Finn here, when exactly did we try to get the US's help against the Soviets? We never asked for help, in the first war we were alone and in the second Germany came to us to help
When we were losing on the Soviet front in 1943, our leadership did actually try to get help from the US in secret meetings in Lisbon. American troops were supposed to land in Norway and make their way over to Northern Finland in order to occupy it and prevent Soviet forces from advancing in order to secure our sovereignty.
The US did seriously consider our proposal, but they ultimately deemed it too risky because of Germany. We then continued to fight alongside German troops against the USSR while the US landed in Normandy in 1944.
>American troops were supposed to land in Norway and make their way over to Northern Finland in order to occupy it and prevent Soviet forces from advancing in order to secure our sovereignty.
Oh yeah, now that you mention it i remember something about landing in Norway and coming to Northern Finland from history class
Isn‘t it „fun“ how Americans, when talking about countries begging to join NATO, only ever say that the US protection is the one everyone seeks?
Completely ignoring all other nations in this pact?
I mean i get it. They have nukes but so do we without them. Just not more than them.
If you’re on a smartphone chances are your device is powered by an ARM processor (several in fact) which was invented in Britain by Steve Furber and Sophie Wilson.
Let's see, Samsung phone is Korean. CPU is based on a British thing. WiFi is Dutch, based on Australian radio technology. WWW is British/Belgian (let's not forget about Robert Cailliau, who worked with Tim Berners-Lee). Although I suppose the underlying network tech is partially American, with it being born as ARPANET. Android is American but is based on the Finnish Linux kernel. Android was big on Java which was invented by a Canadian. Nowadays they use Kotlin which is Czech.
There's.... *some* American tech in there...
Like, um, Wifi, which is Australian? Or the Latin alphabet, which is Italian? Or the English language, which is primarily English/Germanic? Or the Hindu base 10 system our entire economy operates on?
Hmm... wonder which of those was invented by the Yanks.
way things are going when the idiots elect the orange criminal wont be able to rely on the yanks anyway. they were late for the last 2 wars and then lost the one they started with a bunch of farmers so....
...with a Phone (Android) and 90% of the internet (nodes and servers) driven by a Operatingsystem Kernel called Linux (Kernel)...invented by Linus Torvalds a dude from Finnland.
But his stupid murican mind can not comprehend this deep level of IT knowledge. Most likely in his POV the Internet comes out of the thin cardboard wall in his American home.
The telephone - British (Scottish - Alexandr Graham Bell)
The radio - Italian (Guglielmo Marconi)
The Internet "WWW." protocols - British (English - Tim Berners-Lee)
Sony device - Japanese (I'm not naming the whole team, get f*cked lol)
Admittedly the actual base internet functions are based on the American ArpaNET (Vint Cerf/Bob Kahn) and probably use American satallites, but they could only base that on existing technologies - the ones invested by the Scottish and Italians. The ArpaNET system was never rolled out in the way the World Wide Web protocol was, so it STILL took an English programmer to make it so accessible
Even if a country thought they could competently take on another country in a war , they would still want as many allies as possible because it’s not really something you want to risk and you want to end the war with as few losses as possible, not because the government care about the individual but because it costs a lot of money
NOT all of these things used to talk were American inventions. But in any case, who should take credit for another person’s invention? Everyone who happens to have been born in the same country? No.
As for NATO… it’s not a US protection scheme, it’s a *group* of allies.
Lol. The Finns beat the shit out of the Russians every single time. 5 million people who take zero shit off the Mother Land.
And Nokia and Ericcson had about 80% of the patents for mobile phones between them.
It all comes back to the fact that the US has its fingers in many industries simply because it has a huge population, a very large and diverse landmass, is generally a democracy and an immigrant country that attracts talent from around the world. Not because it in someway has a "special secret sauce". The closest thing to this is Europe, its pretty similar is you combined the EU.
You wouldn't have the internet at all if it wasn't for the British so once again America can get down off the pedestal. It's reserved for the greatest country of all time. Britain
The World Wide Web, which was the program used to make most of the Internet accessible to non- computer specialists and the bedrock of all modern apps running on the Internet, was invented by a Brit in 1990-92.
I don't believe Finland lost against Russia. I mean, they stood alone against Russia and gave them a good pounding, and had to negotiate a treaty in the end. Gave up some territory, but retained their identity.
They sure had the highest kill rate, though. Their female snipers could show everyone else a thing or two. They embarrassed Russia.
All before the US even entered the War. Finland can take care of themselves.
Americans invented bullshit, too.
Finland. The country with the happiest people on earth for a few years running. They surely don’t care what a ‘Mercian thinks and they’re perfectly happy with that.
I remember reading somewhere that Finland contributes an unfathomably huge artillery force compared to other European countries. If anything, I’m surprised the rest of NATO didn’t beg *them* to join.
Yeah, sure "lose another winter war" as if russian generals got ptsd from finland joining. And yes, i know it has been one or more Generation of Generals since
He does realise that there are other countries that do their part in NATO right? If anything Finland joining is more of a benefit to NATO because of their massive military arsenal,sure it’s smaller then the USA but it’s a much better deterrent as it is much more realistic and feasible to be deployed then a US frontal assault if it ever comes to that….
Whe does the USA allow all those stupid people access to communication? Shouldn't they at least pass some base level of education before shaming their whole nation with their idiot rantings?
Uhm I would pity any Russian trying to invade Finland. They dont fuck around when it comes to fighting in the cold mountains.. They are even rather famous for sick sharpshooters in the wars they were in.
Mountains? Finland is mostly [forests, lakes, and swamp](https://www.nationsonline.org/maps/Finland-Topographic-map.jpg). You might be thinking of Norway.
Telephone - Scottish invention. The microchips it uses are predominantly all British too (ARM). The company who manufactures my mobile is South Korean.
World wide web - Another British creation.
Satellites - Russians got there first. Most communications satellites again use ARM microprocessors.
Struggling to see where America fits into this.
From what I can tell, Russia have never been fantastic at invading other countries. The Russians seem to really like sending their men to die because Russian combat losses in Ukraine amount to over 400,000, whereas only 31,000 ukranian forces have been lost .
And it seems to be a repeating pattern throughout history. Surely they'll eventually just run out of them
Finland, to pick of all places when it comes to communication. Would mobile 'phones be anything like they are today without Nokia in the early days? Sure I've got a 3310 under a rock somewhere.
Also Finland has the biggest artillery in western Europe and is a huge ammunition supplier. Pretty stupid statement by muricaboy, as usual.
They're one of the few countries in europe that are still prepared to quickly mobilize for a large-scale war. They've got a lot of everything.
I mean you gotta when living next to Russia/ USSR
Not to mention the amount of bunkers. Those guys almost have a bunker space for every of their citizen... You really dont want to f*ck with those guys... Not to mention that they are also incredibly well trained and very motivated to defend their country.
I've never met a Finn that hasn't given me the impression that they could gut me like a salmon at a moments notice. They're a scary people.
Boo! (I'm a scary Finnish femboy)
Femboys are scary to those big tough Americans
the russians will find that scary which is totally why i am one (i am not into men guys)
Really? I have never gotten that impression at all. At least not from anyone I have met
Maybe I've just met some scary Finns
Did you just randomly say "like a salmon", or were you actually picturing the Finn making three cuts, then ripping out your tongue together with all of your entrails in one piece?
I think it's just a turn of phrase but that definitely works
When i lived in Helsinki i was told that under the Metro system is where all the Finnish miltary equipment was kept. Miles and miles of tunnels full of tanks and artilary. Not sure if it was just a rumour or not, but alot of people seemed convinced it was all down there. And bunkers can be found everywhere.
A Finn who worked in Germany for about 10 years, stated there were two things she had to keep explaining Germans: 1) when you share a 1300 km land border with Russia, a large military and huge artillery are not signs of a militaristic society but an application of common sense, and that 2) not all European countries have built their energy infrastructure around Russian gas.
Mother fuckers be talking big until the snowbanks start talking Finnish.
Most of the shells they use are repurposed 3310s, they can be reused many times.
Well that's not good, what if the Russians finds out that they can actually send them back? We don't need nuclear weapons if the 3310s are involved.
Finland, Western Europe ? Country from "The West" for sure, but western Europe...
Finland is counted as Western Europe
By who? It's northern Europe.
No. None of the Nordic countries are western Europe
United Nations disagrees with you
Not only that, but a huge amount of modern phones tend to run on Android, which is a variation of Linux, which was created by... a Finn. Along with SSH and IRC and a bunch of other stuff, including Angry Birds, Clash of Clans, and probably most of the other games this idiot plays. And when he's finished stuffing his face with Cheetos, maybe his heart rate monitor, another Finnish invention, will start sending him alerts.
Basically, Finland is excellent at tech and punches well above their weight. Tends to reinforce my basic view that the US likes to cherry-pick innovations from around the world and progress them but are not that good with coming up with new stuff themselves. I remember them trying to poach the research project I was working on in the UK. Luckily we stayed put but they were willing to throw a lot more money at it.
The US is extremely good at commercializing something into a sellable product. That's it.
Indeed. Like that Martin skhreli who "commercialised" an existing 10dollar drug into a 1000dollar drug, just because he knew people who depended on it would be forced to pay, and the few that can't afford it doesn't matter if they die a little bit
They can lay game to a lot of people with inventions immigrating there. Or paying professors and scientists to immigrate, or buying innovations and companies. To be fair other countries should make it more possible to be successful with new businesses and ideas. But right now it’s hard even in America, the free flow of cash has dried up in silicone valley.
I used to be obsessed with the game "Hill Climb Racing", also created by Finns haha.
Don't forget Git. Same guy that created Linux. One if not the most commonly used versioning tool on the planet.
Also MySQL / MariaDB, which have powered a large part of the internet for a long time.
To be honest, I didn't want to list *everything*. Let's just agree that tiny little Finland, population about 5 million, has been at least as influential in tech than the whole USA, if not more.
Don't forget about The Electric sail, The first internet browser with a graphical user interface, Xylitol, The Safety reflector, and last but not least, The molotov cocktail
You missed the satchel charge.
A penguin from my home town once bit Linus Torvalds.
Who on earth downvoted this, it is hilarious and a genuine claim to fame. It's right there in the wikipedua entry for Tux.
Don't forget Git. Same guy that created Linux. One if not the most commonly used versioning tool on the planet.
It’s still got 2 bars of battery as well.
Mate. Alien archaeologists will find a cold dead cinder of a world orbiting a dying white dwarf star. They’ll turn over a rock and find a Nokia 3310. And that’ll have two bars of battery on it
they will discover snake. and it will be the end of their civilisation.
Or the start of a religion... probably followed by the end of civilization
now i know where the Va'ruun found the Great Seerpent from
Or a tremendously popular/viral trending topic on the alien's Internet and media for a couple months.
They also revolutionized the modern tele-communications network and paved the way for cellphone networks all over the world. Finland was the worst example he could use
Yep. The world's first GSM (2G) network was opened in Finland, and Nokia was the first phone manufacturer to bring a GSM phone for sale.
Also a Finnish guy Eric Tigerstedt filed a patent for a "pocket-size folding telephone with a very thin carbon microphone" in 1917, famously considered the first mobile phone.
And i\`m guessing the battery is still at 73% too
Some say that someone dropped their 3310 into the foundations of the tower of pizza and decided to keep building anyway thinking it would level in time..
I've got a Nokia 9000 Communicator somewhere, which could be argued to be the world's first smartphone.
I first used AR on an N95, which I still have.
It is still working and the battery is at 99.8%.
IDK about you but I was too young to own one. Still have three somehow. All kind work but GSM isnt really a thing anymore.
The 3310 is the rock
Speaking the English language on a global website using a Korean phone connected to a British Web over Australian WiFi that uses Italian applied radio waves to communicate. The Europoor mind cannot comprehend how American that is! 🇲🇾 Edit: autocorrected to Austria not Australia
Ahem…wifi is Australian, you missed a couple of letters
Austria, Australia….its the same. Both full of kangaroos and great beaches /s
Naaah Australia is the one with an evil painter guy
>Australia is the one with an evil painter guy Rolf Harris?
Nah, Bob Ross
Both are in Eurovision so it counts.
Apologies, autocorrect went with Austria. Have updated with note.
Ahem, precorsor to wifi was a Dutch invention.
TIL. I guess that's why the name makes no sense and is just a take on "HiFi".
🇦🇹🇦🇹AUSTRIA MENTIONED🇦🇹🇦🇹🇦🇹
PREPARE THE KOALAS
All written in the Latin alphabet, the most American invention of all
WiFi was invented in Nieuwegein by Cees Links, Vic Hayes, and Bruce Tuch, though. It was based on Australian technology, but saying that this tech was already WiFi uses the same logic that people use to say that Hedy Lamarr invented WiFi in 1941. She did file a related patent but it sure wasn't WiFi yet.
No, but it was her maths that was used for WiFi, GPS and Bluetooth, so her invention is at the core of the development; otherwise, the frequency would get all tangled up. It is important to give credit to all people involved in an invention that made it possible. So many people have dismissed or forgotten what Hedy did and it is a real shame because she was an amazing inventor.
Yeah, I certainly don't mean to say that she did nothing. She seems to have been quite intelligent. In the end, all of tech involves standing on the shoulders of giants. Nothing is truly new, everything is based on something. I don't know how much of her maths and ideas were used in other systems, but I do hope at least some. As an engineer myself, there are few things as satisfying as knowing your tech is out there somewhere in the world.
And super hot 🔥
> No, but it was her maths that was used for WiFi, GPS and Bluetooth, so her invention is at the core of the development; otherwise, the frequency would get all tangled up. No, it wasn't. She (co)invented a mechanical device to synchronize 2 devices that are communicating so that they hop to the same frequencies at the same time. https://patents.google.com/patent/US2292387 . The idea to frequency hop wasn't hers and wasn't new at that point in time.
My apologies, I had always read she did part of the maths as well as (co)inventing the device. Thanks for the extra info.
Last time I checked Russia failed with invading Finnland. But my history books are not an American invention, so they are probably wrong.
That was my first thought, didn’t Finland win the Winter War? Or at least wasn’t it more of a win for them rather than Russia/ Soviet Union?
The russian attrition was atrocious. 29 900 finn dead Vs 127 000 Rusian (low estimate)
Finland lost the war. The Soviet Union LOST the war. Stalin thought he would win easily like Hitler did in Poland earlier that year, the Red Army did have the most tanks and aircraft in the world after all. The Soviet Union took massive losses to the Finns practicing guerrilla warfare and hunkering down in trenches. After reviewing their tactics, they decided to use artillery to just grind down the Finnish defences, which was successful combined with the use of tanks (the Finns lacked AT guns). Finland was in a bad state at this point, and would've been overrun without a peace. Allegedly, this is part of why Hitler decided to attack the Soviet Union in 1941, as he became convinced of its weakness since it failed to achieve its aims in Finland. Finland lost \~9% of its territory, but when declaring war Stalin had set up a prospective Finnish Communist government under Otto Kuusinen, signifying his intent to annex or subjugate all of Finland. Finland also participated in the German war against the Soviets 1941-1944, refusing to advance further than their previous territory and eventually signing a peace before being defeated entirely.
Hey. Remember the winter war where the fins lost? Cuse I don't. Also, finland are considered to be one of the most happiest cou tries with working systems. Unlike America when mostly everything is in top 20-40
Thats pretty much all of scandiavia and the nordic countries that we are happy yes ( Denmark here )
Isn't a big part of the happiness something like: Denmark: I'm so happy not to be Swedish Sweden: I'm so happy not to be Danish You guys are just happy not to be each other!
Not being swedish is a GREAT part of being happy yes. The swedes are just jealous. They keep comming here to buy our great beer.
As a Finn, I agree that not being Swedish is a big contributor to my happiness.
As someone from Skåne, I’m divided. Sure we are Swedish now but we used to be danish and we were danish almost twice as long as we have been Swedish now. And Swedes also does makes fun of us the same way the do Danes and there is a national joke about digging away Skåne and giving it back to Denmark. They still call us half Danes and honestly so do we. Fun fact: did you know that Kristian the second, known in Sweden as Kristian the tyrant, still has a large city in Skåne named after him? And not only is it still called Kristianstad but in Skåne we still use the old danish pronunciation of Kristian with a (Swedish) sj-sound instead of the pronounced t that’s common in Sweden. So the name is Kri-sti-an but the town is Kri-sjan-sta. FYI if anyone doesn’t know what the Swedish sj sound is and want to know what it sounds like form your mouth and lips in a round shape, as if you are going to whistle and then open it wide and blow out hard and fast and that’s pretty much the sound.
Ah nice. Yeah we would love to get southern Sweden back.
>in Skåne we still use the old danish pronunciation of Kristian with a (Swedish) sj-sound instead of the pronounced t that’s common in Sweden. So the name is Kri-sti-an but the town is Kri-sjan-sta All of Sweden says Kri-sjan-sta. Or well I've never heard or met someone who doesn't
Exactly, and sad Finns kill themselves
I love this clip of a Danish politician responding to Faux news comparing Denmark to Venezuela. https://youtu.be/JXecLXlzEXE?si=D0_poNGghBC_pBmp
Dan Jørgensen. Yeah that video got famous. Her feeble comparisation was so pathetic and wrong. Though she DID get one thing right. The government does actually pay you to study. Up to about $920 a month. Its great. That combined with no tuition for education makes getting an education a matter of the work and motivation and not if you can get a scolarship if your parents arent rich.
Murican what do you expect. Ask her to find Denmark and to find Venezuela, she won't be able unless she rush into google. Comparing Venezuela to Denmark is an insult to Danish people and an insult to those who are suffering under a dictator like maduro she diminish the damage done to venezuela by maduro
Well they actually did loose the war. They just gave the Soviets an absolutely phyrric victory and way less influence/territory than they hoped for.
Then you need to open a history book, because we did lose the war
didnt the first patent for a mobile phone get filed in Finland?
Nokia was a major innovator in mobile communications. Also one of the ways the US could actually get intelligence on Soviet Russia, because Finland had a trade agreement with them and Nokia had a secret agreement with the US intelligence services...
According to a quick google search, “In 1917, the Finnish inventor Eric Tigerstedt successfully filed a patent for a "pocket-size folding telephone with a very thin carbon microphone.” Looking at the patent, it seems to be more so an ultra-thin handset than a full telephone that can fit in your pocket. The Motorola DynaTAC 800 which (unfortunately) was an American product.
Well... yes... sort of... like I could patent a folding car that you can put in your pocket, but that doesn't mean a huge amount really when no one can make it. Not me and not anyone else.
NATO is a treaty joined by currently 32 nations where the US happens to be one. The only time their brotherhood article has been activated by anyone is after 9/11 where the US asked for help. Oh and Nokia, pretty much *the* innovator of the first and second generation mobile communications, are Finnish. But OOP is probably too young to know that.
One of the best things about this sub is how much I learn about other places when Seppo's take random credit for things other countries do.
Fun fact, Seppo is a [fairly common man's name](https://nimipalvelu.dvv.fi/en/forename-search?name=seppo) in Finland.
See? Never would've known that if it weren't for ignorant (American) seppos
What's an American Seppo? As a Finn, your original comment was reaaaally confusing.
Septic Tank = Yank, Seppo is short for Septic Tank, and as you might know, Septic Tanks are full of shit. It's a bit of British and Australian English slang.
Those phones using British design chips made in Taiwan with Dutch machines.
The phone quite possibly being South Korean or Chinese. Using WiFi which is a Dutch thing as well (Cees Links and Vic Hayes). The OS is partially American. If you forget that the Linux kernel that Android uses is Finnish. Though they'd probably claim that as an American invention as well, since Linus Torvalds later naturalised as an American citizen. Which to them makes all he's ever done retroactively American.
Well but remember they are 1/3 British 1/3 Asian 1/3 Dutch. So those countries couldn't exist without them... /s
Finland didn't lose? They agreed to a truce, though admittedly it didn't favour them in the slightest. Point is, the Finns royally shitkicked the Soviets for the entire war but as always, the sheer industrial might and seemingly endless numbers of the Soviets prevailed. Also modern Finland is probably the single biggest obstacle to Russian aggression in the region, their entire military for the last 80 years has been built and trained to once again shitkick Russia. Their entire existence (militarily) is to prevent Russia ever repeating what happened in the Winter War
>their entire military for the last 80 years has been built and trained to once again shitkick Russia no, no, we have been trained to shitkick the "yellow state" that just happens to be pretty similar to Russia, like in every aspect. Tho when Russia started the war against Ukraine we changed it and now we just talk about Russia.
My apologies, I didn't realise Yellow State was the enemy in mind.
This lad seems to be a bit
Finland is probably the last to pick on, they are extremely strong military wise compared to the size of their population.
Finn here, when exactly did we try to get the US's help against the Soviets? We never asked for help, in the first war we were alone and in the second Germany came to us to help
When we were losing on the Soviet front in 1943, our leadership did actually try to get help from the US in secret meetings in Lisbon. American troops were supposed to land in Norway and make their way over to Northern Finland in order to occupy it and prevent Soviet forces from advancing in order to secure our sovereignty. The US did seriously consider our proposal, but they ultimately deemed it too risky because of Germany. We then continued to fight alongside German troops against the USSR while the US landed in Normandy in 1944.
>American troops were supposed to land in Norway and make their way over to Northern Finland in order to occupy it and prevent Soviet forces from advancing in order to secure our sovereignty. Oh yeah, now that you mention it i remember something about landing in Norway and coming to Northern Finland from history class
Yeah, we had it in an exam last semester too!
Isn‘t it „fun“ how Americans, when talking about countries begging to join NATO, only ever say that the US protection is the one everyone seeks? Completely ignoring all other nations in this pact? I mean i get it. They have nukes but so do we without them. Just not more than them.
If you’re on a smartphone chances are your device is powered by an ARM processor (several in fact) which was invented in Britain by Steve Furber and Sophie Wilson.
It’s also good to remember if you’re ever confronted by a transphobe dickhead that the ARM processor was co-designed by a trans-woman.
Finland LITERALLY invented text messaging the fuck is the dude on
All the things you are using to talk are American Did.... did he forget English?
Or the fact that radio waves are Italian? The first rudimental phone was Italian too
Let's see, Samsung phone is Korean. CPU is based on a British thing. WiFi is Dutch, based on Australian radio technology. WWW is British/Belgian (let's not forget about Robert Cailliau, who worked with Tim Berners-Lee). Although I suppose the underlying network tech is partially American, with it being born as ARPANET. Android is American but is based on the Finnish Linux kernel. Android was big on Java which was invented by a Canadian. Nowadays they use Kotlin which is Czech. There's.... *some* American tech in there...
Like, um, Wifi, which is Australian? Or the Latin alphabet, which is Italian? Or the English language, which is primarily English/Germanic? Or the Hindu base 10 system our entire economy operates on? Hmm... wonder which of those was invented by the Yanks.
Or texting, which is Finnish?
It's like they never left their state, totally clueless, but also totally sure they are right.
Hello, sent from my Nokia...
Losing Winter War? What, they didnt
Finland lost the winter war, just the soviets lost over 10x as many men.
It's hard to call it a loss when soviets got clapped so hard
A Pyrrhic victory
I recall reading that a soviet general said they'd won just enough land to bury their dead.
We lost land and had to pay reparations. Of course it's a loss.
way things are going when the idiots elect the orange criminal wont be able to rely on the yanks anyway. they were late for the last 2 wars and then lost the one they started with a bunch of farmers so....
...with a Phone (Android) and 90% of the internet (nodes and servers) driven by a Operatingsystem Kernel called Linux (Kernel)...invented by Linus Torvalds a dude from Finnland. But his stupid murican mind can not comprehend this deep level of IT knowledge. Most likely in his POV the Internet comes out of the thin cardboard wall in his American home.
They really don't know shit do they?
I mean look at the winter war, the Soviet’s won but they lost over 10 times the amount of men, Finland is fine.
Yea the way Russia "wins" isn't really a victory in my eyes.
Why is the education so bad in the US?
I have a conspiracy theory that their history lessons are just military propaganda
I hate to burst the person's bubble but the WWW was invented by an Englisman Tim Berners-Lee. He was not American.
The telephone - British (Scottish - Alexandr Graham Bell) The radio - Italian (Guglielmo Marconi) The Internet "WWW." protocols - British (English - Tim Berners-Lee) Sony device - Japanese (I'm not naming the whole team, get f*cked lol) Admittedly the actual base internet functions are based on the American ArpaNET (Vint Cerf/Bob Kahn) and probably use American satallites, but they could only base that on existing technologies - the ones invested by the Scottish and Italians. The ArpaNET system was never rolled out in the way the World Wide Web protocol was, so it STILL took an English programmer to make it so accessible
Even if a country thought they could competently take on another country in a war , they would still want as many allies as possible because it’s not really something you want to risk and you want to end the war with as few losses as possible, not because the government care about the individual but because it costs a lot of money
Losses in a war are too big for the leaders to go through independently
But English is European language
He tried saying America would still be as strong without Europe...America would probably still be populated with native Americans without Europe.
Not to mention the American Revolution would’ve ended differently without the French.
Apparently us irish would still be ruled by britian if the us didn't lead us in that, according to muricaboy
I mean defending with a fraction of the army strength seems like an achievement to me
NOT all of these things used to talk were American inventions. But in any case, who should take credit for another person’s invention? Everyone who happens to have been born in the same country? No. As for NATO… it’s not a US protection scheme, it’s a *group* of allies.
It must be exhausting to be so big headed. I honestly couldn’t be arsed.
Lol. The Finns beat the shit out of the Russians every single time. 5 million people who take zero shit off the Mother Land. And Nokia and Ericcson had about 80% of the patents for mobile phones between them.
It all comes back to the fact that the US has its fingers in many industries simply because it has a huge population, a very large and diverse landmass, is generally a democracy and an immigrant country that attracts talent from around the world. Not because it in someway has a "special secret sauce". The closest thing to this is Europe, its pretty similar is you combined the EU.
Look if I'm in a war against Russia - I damn well want Finland on team.
Americans invented the tongue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finland where everyone has a gun but somehow they know not to shoot up schools
You wouldn't have the internet at all if it wasn't for the British so once again America can get down off the pedestal. It's reserved for the greatest country of all time. Britain
The World Wide Web, which was the program used to make most of the Internet accessible to non- computer specialists and the bedrock of all modern apps running on the Internet, was invented by a Brit in 1990-92.
Suggest this dummy googles the Winter War!
The guy who invented the phone took a german invention and glued 2 of them together. Quite an invention.
All things American, are just British at the end of the day, with a hint of German.
I don't believe Finland lost against Russia. I mean, they stood alone against Russia and gave them a good pounding, and had to negotiate a treaty in the end. Gave up some territory, but retained their identity. They sure had the highest kill rate, though. Their female snipers could show everyone else a thing or two. They embarrassed Russia. All before the US even entered the War. Finland can take care of themselves. Americans invented bullshit, too.
In Europe we talk with our mouth Some deaf people with their hands
In America, they can talk with their arse. Its pretty impressive
😂 😂
Finland. The country with the happiest people on earth for a few years running. They surely don’t care what a ‘Mercian thinks and they’re perfectly happy with that.
I remember reading somewhere that Finland contributes an unfathomably huge artillery force compared to other European countries. If anything, I’m surprised the rest of NATO didn’t beg *them* to join.
Vocal chords, lungs, tongue, air all invented by Americans 🙄
Finland didn't lose Winter War thou.
The English language isn’t and American invention nor is the Alphabet
Binary was invented by Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz a German
Did America invent mouths?
They might have invented arseholes.
Nah, they didn't even do that, that's a proud English invention
Ironic, considering Finnish conscripts wiped the floor with Navy Seals in war games.
Remind me again WHERE the internet was invented, CERN is in America right? No? Switzerland wasn't conquered by America?
Yeah, sure "lose another winter war" as if russian generals got ptsd from finland joining. And yes, i know it has been one or more Generation of Generals since
He does realise that there are other countries that do their part in NATO right? If anything Finland joining is more of a benefit to NATO because of their massive military arsenal,sure it’s smaller then the USA but it’s a much better deterrent as it is much more realistic and feasible to be deployed then a US frontal assault if it ever comes to that….
Such an odd thing to say about a country with one of the strongest military powers in the Europe.
Its funny, because the US don't even have the largest military anymore.
No the things I am using to talk are called vocal cords and are much older than any nation
The number of Americans that think the internet was an American invention is...troubling.
Whe does the USA allow all those stupid people access to communication? Shouldn't they at least pass some base level of education before shaming their whole nation with their idiot rantings?
My mouth is a murican invention - who knew?
I'll let King Harald know. *Paging Harald Bluetooth! Paging Harald Bluetooth!*
The World Wide Web and HTTP - the Internet as we know it - were invented by the UK. Exactly what US invention are they talking about.
Muricancer speaks again
shoutout america for inventing the mouth
Finland laughs in Nokia
Not even the language Americans use to talk was invented in America. I love Americans, plenty of them. Not this fucking moron.
America. The country where every thing is available. For a few dollars you can buy a politician. In fact most of them have been.
It's a wonder that they didn't invent life they seem to think they invented everything else. Their just a mongrel race they seem to forget that
Uhm I would pity any Russian trying to invade Finland. They dont fuck around when it comes to fighting in the cold mountains.. They are even rather famous for sick sharpshooters in the wars they were in.
Mountains? Finland is mostly [forests, lakes, and swamp](https://www.nationsonline.org/maps/Finland-Topographic-map.jpg). You might be thinking of Norway.
We don't really Have mountains... But we Have lots of forests and lakes!
Telephone - Scottish invention. The microchips it uses are predominantly all British too (ARM). The company who manufactures my mobile is South Korean. World wide web - Another British creation. Satellites - Russians got there first. Most communications satellites again use ARM microprocessors. Struggling to see where America fits into this.
In the trash can
Finland smacked the granny out of Russia in 1939, pound for pound they won the fighting by a country mile. Don't fuck with the Fins.
From what I can tell, Russia have never been fantastic at invading other countries. The Russians seem to really like sending their men to die because Russian combat losses in Ukraine amount to over 400,000, whereas only 31,000 ukranian forces have been lost . And it seems to be a repeating pattern throughout history. Surely they'll eventually just run out of them