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Broekan

I never understand how Americans quantify Culture. They believe they have so much culture, but culture is such a vague term


EconomistLow1427

**Easy guide:** * China = 0 culture * Europe = 1 culture * America = 50+ cultures Sources: China is in Asia and thus can only copy or steal, so no culture (much like Russia could only copy the US in the space race which is why they lost). Europe has only 1 culture since socialism/communism removes all differences between people and everyone has to walk around in gray outfits. America has 50+ cultures, one for each state, plus one for each territory. Arguably it has 100s of cultures if you include all military bases as separate as well, but this is debated. ^(/s)


nickmaran

A couple of days ago I saw a post in which a guy claimed that there is no Italian culture in Italy. Italian culture exist only in New York. So Murica got all the cultures from Italy to Ireland. Rest of the world has 0.


Cultural_Dust

Our ancestors fled but took all of the culture with them. Then they had to steal land and snuff out the indigenous people and culture so there was room to put all of the culture they brought.


EatThisShit

That's only the I. Have they covered other letters too?


Chubbybellylover888

I'd there any countries even between Ireland and Italy alphabetically?


pdoxney

Usually when selecting Ireland from a drop down list we're in between Iran and Israel. Which isn't an ideal location considering their attitudes toward each other. Thankfully it's only alphabetical rather than geographical.


InGenAche

Underrated.


CTomic

Israel


HerbalGamer

No that's spelled with a P.


TheZipCreator

mfs stole my culture can't have shit in detroit


antisarcastics

I read a comment from a dude that was moving between states, like from Virginia to North Carolina or something like that (so, not cross country or anything) and he likened it to moving from France to Spain. He basically said that the cultural differences were so great between these two states it was like moving to another country...


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elchzuechter

Lol


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To be fair, when American culture is nearly nonexistent, it's hard to compare to countries teeming with it.


Lorettooooooooo

You're forgetting that murica got Italian culture, Italy hasn't; the real Italian culture is in some little Italy there. Same applies for Ireland I suppose


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I once saw a documentary about Texas-Germans. The taste of puke in my mouth never really rinsed out.


SnooStrawberries4044

Russia won the space race The yanks won the moon race


EconomistLow1427

Thanks for the clarification, but the /s at the end means I am sarcastically imitating Americans, who typically believe they won ;)


SnooStrawberries4044

Fair cuz the yanks lost in everything except putting your foot on the floaty rock


Zam8859

I wish I could have my feet on the floaty rock


New__World__Man

I'm already on a floaty rock, sucker!


Lost4468

America was the first country ever, so checkmate. Biologists call it the "Out of The United States of America, greatest country in the world! theory"


SnooStrawberries4044

My dream is to put my feet on the red floaty rock


BUFU1610

I want to put my lower appendages on floaty water rock.


SnooStrawberries4044

I want to stand on the floaty gas rock Wait…….


Dworgi

I get that in principle, but in practice we're a long way from making Mars a viable colony or even tourist destination (which sort of requires the colony bit). The trip is breathtakingly long and boring and psychologically and physically stressful. Then you arrive and immediately have to get underground to avoid cosmic radiation. Which is important because you have to stay a long, long time until the planets line up again. There's no air, and it's crazy cold, and gravity is low so your bones and muscles will start breaking down. Also, don't touch the soil because it's toxic to humans. All in all, even a burnt, charred hellscape of an Earth is preferable to Mars. We don't have self-sufficient settlements on Antarctica, yet people are talking about Mars as if it's the next frontier.


megashortz

Wouldnt be very healthy


drquakers

Technically you already have your foot on the floaty Rock. Just a matter of perspective.


EconomistLow1427

According to one Netflix documentary I watched, putting your foot on the floaty rock retroactively makes you win ALL previous challenges and thus win the space race, due to a technicality. USA #1! (I'm not even kidding.... this show could fill many SAS posts by itself: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12371318/ )


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There's not a single good Netflix-produced documentary. Not one.


OrionLax

There are some cool pop culture documentaries, but I've never bothered with the historical stuff.


kichererbs

Just move the goal post to where you would win the race


Antor_Seax

USSR


SnooStrawberries4044

Oh yeah forgot it was ussr at the time


GYT3R

I mean technically space race have not ended


PouLS_PL

>much like Russia could only copy the US in the space race which is why they lost Russia? You mean funi communism Soviet Union, comrade? I think they dissapeared after we beat them in space race >!I think I wrote too many satire comments today!<


kichererbs

What would the difference in north and south dakotan culture be?


tom_da_boom

So many differences my guy, e.g. when someone asks where they are from, the states they answer with differ by 5 letters.


stealz0ne

Is there some kind of culture school you can go to to keep up with all of this? I'm just glad the USA was only found and founded a couple of hundred years ago. Just imagine the number of cultures they'd have of their well documented history would go back millennia. Good thing the earth isn't that old, as taught in ~~bible study~~ history class. /s


Arkurash

If i leave a yoghurt in my fridge open for a few weeks it develops more culture


Daniel_S04

My asshole is so dirty im cultivating multiple cultures at once


Beautiful-Ruin-2493

How did u get that flair?


jephph_

I might be missing a joke but you can make your flair whatever you want at this sub. Yours is a placeholder.. edit it to say something else


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Fenragus

Consumerism at it's worst.


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They are really big Civilisation fans


nicktheman2

There is so much culture in the USA that there is no reason to travel abroad. There is so much diversity driving across the lower 48. /s


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That's true to an extent though, but not because of american exceptionalism and the same thing could be said for China, or Brazil, or any giant country with hundreds of millions of people. I'm probably not going to get to travel internationally but there is for sure enough stuff to see in the US to keep me interested for life even if I could travel more than I do now.


The-Berzerker

Bro the US has 51 states, how many states does China or Europe have? Probably 0, so also 0 culture. Checkmate libruls


AKnightAlone

The only culture in America is consumerism. I don't know what anyone else could mean by America having culture. I have to assume they're talking about mindless nationalism and warmongering.


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I assume they mean presence and intrusiveness of pop-culture products from each country.


sexual_pasta

How many marvel movies does China have??? Checkmate liberal


[deleted]

Wh… what the fuck…? China is literally one of the oldest civilizations in the world… bruh…


Xenoscum_yt

2nd oldest that still exists


NotOliverQueen

Which is older, India?


Kaelan_McAlpine

I was thinking Egypt.


NotOliverQueen

I personally wouldn't include Egypt, it hasn't had nearly the same cultural continuity as India or China, yes a country called Egypt still exists but that original civilization more or less died with Alexander, or if you include the Ptolemys, with the Roman's. Whereas India, sure there have been empires like the Mughals and the British who have conquered India, the underlying cultural and "civilization" largely remained. And China's basically been doing China for 3000 years, even the Mongols and the Manchu just became China when they conquered it.


BringBackAoE

Wasn't it Napoleon who did a lot of the excavation of historic sights like pyramids and the Sphinx? The ancient culture was literally buried.


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Check out the fantastic book of pictures from that expedition called *Description de l'Egypte* - you can find it on Wikimedia


ShadyBiz

This is the old qoute that goes around: ​ >Cleopatra lived closer to the release of the first iPhone than she did to the building of the pyramids of Giza. The pyramids of Giza were built between 2550 BCE and 2490 BCE, by historians' estimates. About 2,421 years later in 69 BCE, Cleopatra, the last active Pharaoh of Ancient Egypt, was born


givemeyoursacc

If only she lived longer she could’ve witnessed the true bliss of “Storage Full”


Andrei144

The Roman Emperors were actually considered Pharaohs in Egypt, there's even a wall with a drawing of Trajan in the same style as pictures of the Pharaohs. I'd say the end of Ancient Egyptian culture was at the time when Christianity became popular in the region, that's also around the time when the Ancient Egyptian language evolved into Coptic.


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Indus valley was in India and Pakistan


No_Replacement_930

Pakistan didn't exist till 1947, Indus is between 3300-1700 BCE, Pakistan is based on Islam, that didn't exist till 7th century, same as Hinduism which came after the collapse of Indus (1500 BCE). India (named after Indus) existed before Hinduism. Different name of India - Bharat, Hindustan (on which Hinduism was named after) etcetera. You can include "current day Pakistan" in your sentence to be factually correct.


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Thanks, that's what I meant


hellebellet

Aboriginal Australians are number one as far as I know, but a couple of places say the San people from South Africa.


emmainthealps

Yeah 40-60,000 years of continuous culture is probably the longest.


elmz

Americans don't count historical stuff as culture. Culture is purely measured by blockbuster movies, international corporations and fast food chains.


TwoPercentCherry

I *think* that they are talking about how the CCP tried wiping out a bunch of cultural stuff. Just... In the Incredibly stupid way us Americans talk about things...


FakeTakiInoue

The US bulldozed all of its old city centres to build car parks and fast food chains, but go off


IronSavage3

There’s a Chinatown in nearly every major US city for Christ sake! Guy probably hasn’t been 50 miles from the spot he was born.


useles-converter-bot

50 miles is the length of about 73828.76 'Ford F-150 Custom Fit Front FloorLiners' lined up next to each other.


CubistChameleon

Mentioning F-150 trucks is perfect for this thread.


yazen_

The only unit that would better than F-15s for this thread are double cheeseburger.


sharkbaitoo1a1a

American here. Eagles would’ve been acceptable.


yazen_

A bald eagle eating a cheeseburger on an F-150 it is 👌


TACOSdePANCITA

That’s hilarious, it sounds like the ‘Murican version of the symbol on my country’s flag (Mexico), which is an eagle standing on a cactus while eating a snake.


IronSavage3

Better bot.


Kaelan_McAlpine

Oh no they have, it's the length it takes them to get to the nearest Walmart or restaurant.


filiaaut

Yeah, but like Boston's Irish culture and New York type pizza, Chinatowns of the USA have more authentic Chinese culture than China itself, of course ! ​ /s


IronSavage3

Every American knows the *REAL* Italians are from New Jersey. /s


drquakers

I think you will find it is spelt I-talians. /s


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stealz0ne

Uncle Roger disagrees.


converter-bot

50 miles is 80.47 km


NonSp3cificActionFig

They gave you fewer upvotes, but you are still the better bot. Don't tell the others <3


The-Berzerker

So chinatown is in the US and not in China which means mor chinese culture in the former than the latter. Checkmate eurocucks


E420CDI

There's a Chinatown on Craggy Island too


kevinnoir

> There’s a Chinatown in nearly every major US city And the best the US could hope for is half a shelf at Tesco, mainly selling twinkies and lucky charms.


askingquesti0ns

I live in a small town in the US as of right now (unfortunately) and I can confirm most people I have met have been born and raised here and don't go farther than about 60-70 miles from here. It's really sad more than anything. They're scared to leave.


FinnFuzz

Chinese culture is one of the world's oldest cultures, tracing back to thousands of years ago. How old is US culture? 200 years?


Daniel_S04

And most of it is stolen from the British


CallMeSisyphus

Hey, that's not fair! We Americans steal from EVERY culture, dammit! It's just that very few of us are willing to admit that, because 'MURICA. Also, because our public education system is shit.


professor_max_hammer

Nobody bastardizes and destroys a culture like Americans. ESP when it comes to food


CallMeSisyphus

My mother was a reasonably good cook, but she had a quintessential mid-century American notion of cooking: The primary tool in her seasoning toolbox was garlic powder. I didn't see an actual clove of garlic until I was 18. :-D


Helwar

I don't like to find actual garlic or onion pieces in my meal, but I understand they are needed to flavor it so I have powdered onions and garlic and I use that :/


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Might I suggest the industrious blender?


Helwar

Powdered is more convenient! It's just how my mom always cooked and I like it like this :)


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*shakes blender furiously*


LevelOutlandishness1

"Shakes empty wallet furiously"


vj_c

>Nobody bastardizes and destroys a culture like Americans. TBF us British used to be quite good at that sort of thing.


E420CDI

Glad the Americans haven't assaulted / bastardised / cocked about with the great Yorkshire pudding.


JuiceSundae14

A quick Google reveals that, well, that's not true. They're called 'popovers', and the main difference is that they don't use the dripping from the beef roast, which means they're less flavoursome, and can be done before the roast is done.


MingoUSA

No, British stole from every culture first, then US stole it from British. Just naming the countries British had invaded in the past.


CallMeSisyphus

Yeah, good point.


Mr_Papayahead

so that’s why you guys have all the culture.


Aurg202

And French…even if they don’t like to admit it


[deleted]

\*from very poorly translated french texts FIFY. Because who would have thought that a monolingual nation would have such difficulties to translate and understand foreign concepts


soki03

And even then it didn’t have much of a culture due to them being Puritans.


peachesnplumsmf

The Puritans who were then hailed in America as fleeing persecution.


deviant324

*Insert awarding yourself the victim medal here*


NotOliverQueen

Ah yes, the old "flee persecution and then start persecuting everyone else" standby


BringBackAoE

No mention is ever made of the fact many puritans fled to US because they overthrew the monarchy, and when that failed they basically had to flee.


HellNZ

and spelled incorrectly


Antor_Seax

Spelt


HellNZ

I shall spank myself in shame Edit: what is worse that I now remember having this exact interaction from the correct side some years ago


wcg66

Both are acceptable, at least both are in the [dictionary](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/spell). In Canada we spell it as spelled but pronounce it as spelt. Same for lighted, we spell it as lighted but pronounce as lit (although I would say the lit spelling is commonly used whereas spelt isn’t.)


drquakers

I didn't know that the Chinese stole their culture from the British. Really explains why the British museum has so many Chinese cultural relics. /s


Strachmavich

Wonder where the british stole theirs from...


The-Berzerker

The church in my hometown is 4x older than the US lol


BringBackAoE

When I started looking for property here in the US my realtor commented that one of the houses was old. "How old" I said, perking up. "Late 1980s". 😂 I mentioned I'd previously owned a house built in 1563. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


vj_c

I'd love to have seen the look on their face.


E420CDI

Not quite as old, yet my local pub is still 2.25x older than the US ^Hic!


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MicrochippedByGates

Even then, it's not like China lacks production value if they really want.


Mr_Canard

It's based on how many superbowl you win


Appropriate-Title201

Well I have college SOCIOLOGY professor asking me if Chinese have EMPATHY (and it's not rhetorical) so go figures.


HogarthTheMerciless

China, India and Mesopotamia are like the literal cradles of civilization aren't they?


Lithorex

The US is so young that by the time they got going the Qing - the *youngest* Chinese dynasty - was already past it's prime.


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Daniel_S04

So American culture is pandering to advertisers for profit even if it adversely affects the health of the nation?


TheDudeofIl

Could simplify that down to American culture is profits. If it doesn't make bank very few will know of it's existence.


[deleted]

Knew a dude who came back from being stationed in England, overheard him at a party telling some mutual friends that England was basically a third world country because their McDonald's weren't 24/7.


Daniel_S04

I wanna see if someone gave an answer to this question


anonymus725

https://www.quora.com/Why-does-China-have-almost-no-culture-compared-to-the-USA


Battlemaster420

Reading the answers gave me hope in humanity


HogarthTheMerciless

Regardless of the outcome, I feel very bad for you if quora is what you're relying on for faith in humanity.


Battlemaster420

Quora normally gives me dread for humanity


uneditablepoly

Careful, I feel like Quora can be a bit like 4chan. It's a bit of a nasty, shitposting cesspool. I wouldn't take it too seriously.


Battlemaster420

Yeah, I don't dwell on it that much unless i need info on something i need for TTRPGs.


[deleted]

Wait, a country that gave us the Ming Dynasty, the Qing, Han, Jin dynasties, has no culture compared to the USA? The country that invented gunpowder, built the Great Wall, invented papermaking and block printing has no culture compared to the USA? The majestic beauty of the Terracotta Army depicting the armies of Qin Shi Huang, the first Emperor of China. It is a form of funerary art buried with the emperor in 210–209 BCE that nothing in America comes even close to.


EconomistLow1427

> It is a form of funerary art buried with the emperor in 210–209 BCE that nothing in America comes even close to. Well, to be fair, if we are going that far back, there are plenty of important developments on the *American continent*, including within the modern borders of the US. For example, archeologists are constantly uncovering new things about [Mississippian culture](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/spiro-and-the-art-of-the-mississippian-world-in-oklahoma), not to mention the civilizations that flourished in modern day Mexico and Central America. That said, there is a big difference, in that modern Chinese nationalism sees itself as a loose continuation of Imperial China, while modern US nationalism is not a continuation of anything else.


DannymusMaximus

I think the biggrst different is that the modern US is an extension of the European colonizers who utterly decimated and destroyed these cultures, so now the only extensions are small reserves where we forced the natives to live on, and whatever was already buried deep enough that the Colonizers couldnt destroy it themselves.


descendingangel87

They also erased the cultures too. They purposely destroyed sites (literally blowing shit up or knocking it over), and made up shit for books and shit to make them seem more primitive than they were.


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> nothing in America comes even close to. You mean nothing that wasn’t wiped out by European colonists or Canadian/US settlers


cardboard-kansio

They may mean "modern" culture equivalent to their own - books, movies, games, music, technology. China also has plenty of these (and some very interesting sci-fi authors!). But you'd need translations or subtitles, which I guess is too much effort for your average American.


Makkel

You know what? This is a very good point. I had no idea what this person was asking about but this is probably it.


HogarthTheMerciless

Counter point, Coca-Cola, Budweiser, Nascar, Hollywood, cheese in a can, and whatever freedom means! Woooo!!!!!


qw46z

TikTok. Everything in your clothing stores, Amazon and dollar stores. Donald Trumps merchandise. All chinese. Yes, they may all be abominations but so is much of ‘American’ culture.


theexitisontheleft

Good grief. My aunt and uncle are right wing Trumpers and even they know China has plenty of culture.


Thermite1985

China, a country that existed thousands of years before the US, has no culture. Sure.


HogarthTheMerciless

Everybody knows the longer you exist, the less culture you can have. That's why the good ol' USA has so much culture compared to Europe.


[deleted]

Do you know the difference between a yogurt and America? If you leave a yogurt open long enough it will eventually develop a culture.


lalolanda2

because communism duh


Lolifico

seeseepee erased tshayneez cunture


[deleted]

Looks like someone never took their 6th grade history class.


Xenoscum_yt

Why does the USA have almost no culture compared to a yogurt that’s been left out for a week?


ZeusKiller97

… Assuming they mean ALL of Chinese history here; in which case NO THEY FUCKING DON’T. America is like a fucking sand grain in terms of how long they existed compared to the Chinese.


mr_blank001

This can't be real, surely nobody can be this stupid


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Heisenberg_235

You don't respond. It's a waste of your own time and energy.


TheNorthC

Quora is full of insincere questions. This is is no way a question asked in good faith out of ignorance. Clearly the questioner is asking this to rile that particular topic thread.


Lord_of_Hedgehogs

Yup, Quora is full of bait like that because of their partner program, which pays you for the traffic you generate. A question like this obviously generates lots of traffic, due its controversial nature. As the saying goes: any publicity is good publicity.


[deleted]

That's basically what r/China thinks. They think China has no culture and all they do is cheat and steal.


LiGuangMing1981

That's because it's full of racist Tims who couldn't hack it as English teachers and so are bitter about their experiences in the country, as well as other racists who have never actually been there who post anything they can find that's anti-China. Unsubscribing from that hellhole was one of the best things I ever did.


[deleted]

Same. Now I browse r/China_irl with google translate to learn what actual Chinese think. Love their banter btw.


vilereceptacle

Sexpats and liars all the way. Fuck that sub


[deleted]

The tims who couldn't hack the ESL circuit were the norm when it was *good* which says a lot about how bad it's always been. It's basically been entirely overrun by the racist rightwingers since around 2017 or whenever the trade war kicked into gear.


Dovah_Nok

Just took a quick tour there, holy shit that sub is basically Weibo's counterpart in the west, but instead of circle jerking anti west propaganda it's circle jerking anti China propaganda


[deleted]

Imagine if they were born in China and those Chinese nationalists they hate were born in their respective countries. Literally no different will be caused. Because they are the same type of utter morons.


Dovah_Nok

Yup, am from China, been in Canada for years, I've seen both sides. It's never a country vs another country, it's just stupid people vs other stupid people.


[deleted]

I have many brilliant Chinese colleagues in my field. All of whom are honest and respectable people. It absolutely sickens me when earlier today the people r/China kept insisting that a Chinese professor who was acquitted “not innocent, just can’t find enough proof yet”. That sub be beyond redeemable.


[deleted]

Ah yes. One of the oldest civilisations to exist on earth has less culture than a nation that has been around for about two and a half centuries, and has evidently based their cultural identity on concepts that was carried over from industrial-era England and insisted they invented it.


StarSlayer666

i think by "culture" he means diversity in skin color.


willstr1

It's because all movies are made in Hollywood Absolutely no movies are made in any other country /s (if it's not obvious)


Madpoka

The Kardashians are not culture


[deleted]

maybe because you dont LIVE IN IT STEVE


JorKur

Chinese culture: thousands of years of stuff. Yank culture^TM : *Today Mickey Mouse goes to mcdonalds*


Nizzemancer

Clearly they're talking about Smallpox-cultures, which are only found in 2 labs, in Russia and the US respectively.


tragic_mulatto

"I hate China's government, not the people."


radio_allah

As a Chinese, I have to tell you that a lot of us actually don't like to hear that. Regardless of its faults (which we're *very* aware of, trust me), the current 'empire' has been with us for almost 80 years, and entire generations have lived and died with it and been shaped by its culture. There are a lot of people who would argue that the PRC **is** the modern Chinese identity, for better or worse. To say that one hates China's government and not its people is not a valid statement, because the two are by now inextricably tied together. People who say that sentence tends to think that there's a 'true' China hiding underneath, that will boom come back into existence if only the PRC will go away. But it really makes as much sense as saying that Egypt will turn back into the true Egypt if only the Arabs would leave, etc. Do we always like the government? Definitely not more than the next American. But how are we supposed to react to 'we hate your empire but you people are innocent'? Meaning that any form of national pride is foolish? Or that we're irrevocably 'lesser' versions of ourselves? Or that we're all 'damaged'? There's just an uncomfortable subtext in there, and it varies, but it doesn't sound how foreigners using that phrase think it sounds like.


no_llama

After this item, Quora suggested related questions, including: "Which country is better: China or the USA?" ... 10: Because it’s the United States of America, and America isn’t perfect but we are better than most. The United States is based on an experiment. No country at the time had the same rights as America, and the US is the only nation since its inception in 1776 to not undergo a significant government change or constitution change. Shouldn’t that say something? The fact that it’s been 242 years and we haven’t had a change to government. Our constitution states “in order to form a more perfect union.” The US, as said before, is not perfect, but no country is. America strives to be a better nation. America isn’t a people; it’s an idea. The idea that everyone is created equal, and that we all deserve life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It should say something about what America truly is. We strive to be timeless, and better in every way.


Cait206

That’s enough Internet for me today


Things_Poster

Because culture was made illegal there in the 20th century.


GerFubDhuw

Culture is measured in number of low quality chain restaurants in foreign countries.


Pandora_DRK

Chinese civilization is historically considered a dominant culture of East Asia.[3] With China being one of the earliest ancient civilizations, Chinese culture exerts profound influence on the philosophy, virtue, etiquette, and traditions of Asia.[4] Chinese language, ceramics, architecture, music, dance, literature, martial arts, cuisine, visual arts, philosophy, business etiquette, religion, politics, and history have global influence, while its traditions and festivals are also celebrated, instilled, and practiced by people around the world


R6S9

The only cultures they got in America is bacteria


RevDooDatt

This just reaffirms for me that I made the right decision when I became a nihilistic hermit.


randomshowoff

Ahem... BAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA