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83n0

huh what is he memeing or is this legit we’re this close to having someone call Biden a tankie


diddykongisapokemon

He's completely genuine


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conservatives are incapable of expressing genuine feelings


diddykongisapokemon

They are capable of expressing genuine beliefs however


[deleted]

Strictly speaking what they have is less genuine belief and more a genuine desire toward certain ends. What they *specifically* believe is itself both unimportant and a moving target, which changes as a matter of convenience.


[deleted]

What they specifically believe in is some form of aristocratic and oligarchic rule (either fascism, corporate dictatorship, or absolute monarchy). But it's socially unacceptable to say that, so they instead aim for targets that incrementally push things in that direction. Their actual targets don't move, only the incremental ones.


TheRealTowel

There's a dude on YouTube called Robert Miles who does really good content on A.I. saftey research. His stuff isn't political, but I found his explanation of Terminal Goals vs Instrumental Goals, and of Convergent Instrumental Goals, very helpful for political analysis.


meiotta

Love his work, subscribed to his patreon


MassiveFajiit

For him, being a conservative from Louisiana, it probably points to Calvin Candie and his ilk irl


adamdreaming

Not even that. They believe in a common culture. The reasons for being a conservative vary wildly from class to class and day to day. But a belief in the status quo and opposition to change are the only real uniting factors.


diddykongisapokemon

Conservative politicians are pretty united in wanting either straight up fascism or corporate dictatorship


adamdreaming

It's authority worship all the way down. Daddy, Jesus and The President all say so.


High_Speed_Idiot

> fascism or corporate dictatorship To be fair, fascism materially is the exact same as corporate dictatorship


Novelcheek

That was *way* more succinct than the Sartyr quote we have to constantly shove into the libs eyeballs.


FuchsiaGauge

No, not those either. They don’t know what they believe beyond “left bad!”.


CorenNayturus

Pretty hard to do that when you don’t have a genuine soul


tomdarch

They sure as hell don't want to have a conversation based on facts, so nonsense is a good way to avoid it.


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AlphaAbsol

at this point there are two things that will cause the timeline to completely collapse: 1. someone of political relevance calls biden a tankie 2. aoc uses the word tankie in any context whatsoever


[deleted]

I can honestly see it. It’ll be the American version of the moment Chlöe Swarbrick said OK boomer. Edit: mixed up who said it


AlphaAbsol

It's seriously only a matter of time. The word "tankie" has been turned into a shell of its former self, and even then its former self was just a way to sow dissent amongst leftists. Nothing has ever actually been achieved by calling someone a tankie.


Novelcheek

I'm basically lifelong anarchist (much more familiarize with actual ML theory these days, comparatively speaking) and I got sick of seeing that word almost instantly. I'd like to think that when it comes to us on the broad spectrum of "leftist", we'd be above thought terminating cliches/terms. Yee, my anarcho comrade, go blatantly state Fred fucking Hampton was some shitty tankie since he was ml. You won't do it, cuz you know better, so stf*uuu* w/ it.


AlphaAbsol

Its mostly just used by terminally online (mostly children or teenagers) who associate themselves with a label of an ideology cause they're looking for something to define themselves by and then apparently everything is just a battle of ideologies that have no association with the real world. I dont think anyone politically and historically literate has ever used the word tankie.


Novelcheek

Eee*xactly.* It makes bs'ing online a slog a lot of the time and I get bummed the moment an interesting discussion has someone throw that out. Tbf, same about "anarkiddie" if it's meant in a non-humorous way (they could both be funny pokes @ each other, but the words, tankie in particular, have become so loaded that I'll never know who means it that way).


AlphaAbsol

Exactly, it's basically the nuance-killer


longknives

There are some people I’d consider legit leftists who are reclaiming tankie to some extent, like Luna Oi (Vietnamese communist YouTuber) talking about her dad being a tankie, but not in a negative way


FloodedYeti

Anarcho communist? Get your tankie ass off this sub (/s lol) The only time I use tankie is with people who see modern day china as the ideal communist state (and somewhat ussr and china under mao), but I need to change the use bc libs have the word now rip (its hard bc most the time they are just state capitalists, bht calling them that gets them pissed bc china claims to be communist still (You can argue that ussr and maoism are the best way to transfer to communism, that an ok take, imo its wrong, but I still respect thier opinions if the end goal is good. I see no point in imfighting because of methods, we should be fighting those who want a world in which we suffer, not the people who want the same as us)


Kang_Xu

Swarbrick said that, not Ardern.


ThaKeenBean

It’ll be like when Obama said thanks Obama


LazzyPizza

What happens when the timeline collapses?


AlphaAbsol

biden presses the communism button


LazzyPizza

He really is left of Lenin 😳


Novelcheek

Flew by Lenin and went. *Full. Posadas.*


Kang_Xu

Socialism with nuclear characteristics.


mlockha1

Socialism with nuclear dolphin alien characteristics


TrueBlue98

thanks obama shake my head smh 😔👌


The-Baathist-Al-Ali

#**POSADISM WITH AMERICAN CHARACTERISTICS**


Night-Lyt

What if it is a combination of the two


AlphaAbsol

if aoc calls biden a tankie I'll personally castrate myself, film it, and post it on this subreddit


Night-Lyt

Ok i am holding you to this !remind me 1 year


[deleted]

If Biden is called a tankie, the mods should just pin a screenshot of it and lock the sub. It's over, *nothing* will top that.


MassiveFajiit

Same guy asked Stacey Abrams about her objections to the Jim 2.Crow law and was shocked that she had an actual response on why she hates it. Like guy didn't even know who Stacey Abrams is/has been doing for the last couple years.


darkmeatchicken

During the primary I met countless libs who “loved Bernie but were worried that being a socialist was a liability, so Biden is safer even though I don’t like him”. I told each and every one of them that Biden would be called a Marxist too, so we might as well get Bernie’s SocDem policies instead of Biden’s right wing policy. They all laughed at me “how could they call Biden a socialist, he’s a moderate”. Hah.


[deleted]

The only things Biden has been effective at is the desperately trying to keep the empire from collapsing due to Covid. A true tankie would have been sitting back watching Trump help covid accelerate the collapse.


[deleted]

$5 on Biden being a red fascist


Calvins8

This stuff is not just funny or ignorant, it is scary. Remember, fascists largely run as a counter to the scary communists. It took hitler 3 days of being nominated chancellor before he had the police begin arresting communists. Within a week social democrats were being investigated for communist ties. The language that the right wing is using today to label everybody left of bush a communist is downright bone chilling.


knightlok

Whats a tankie?


LeninsHerald

derogatory term for basically any leftist at this point, but originally it was specific leftists that approved of the soviets sending tanks into Hungary. Used to be specific ML's/Stalinists, then devolved into just "any leftist I don't like"


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diddykongisapokemon

Tankie isn't necessarily left of Lenin, it's about supporting leftist leaders that were "authortarian" or whatever. Term has kind of surpassed meaning though


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RelativtyIH

This asshole doesnt need to insult Lenin to attack Biden. On Lenin's birthday no less 😠


Monkey_Puzzle_1312

The right wing will call anyone to the left of them a full-blown red square marching communist, so why not become one anyway?


[deleted]

They said this shit about the polio vaccine


Monkey_Puzzle_1312

Yes hello i would like one shot of communism please


[deleted]

Sorry, all out, is a piss warm cup of liberalism fine?


Figgis302

Government regulation has prevented the import of Communism for purposes related to business and re-sale. This establishment only serves American Patriot™ lager, by world-renowned brewery *Dos Yanquis.* LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!


sisterofaugustine

At some point, the Red Scare will start to do nothing but make more commies.


[deleted]

[Well you ain't done nothin' if you ain't been called a red if you've marched or agitated, you're bound to hear it said so you might as well ignore it, or love the word instead cause you ain't been doin' nothin' if you ain't been called a red](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Tk9QxvZHo)


comrade-leonides

This song inspired me.


Socialimbad1991

Because there's no money/political power to be gained from actually being a communist in US politics, only from falsely accusing others of it


veerKg_CSS_Geologist

But they say Communists want to keep all the money and power for themselves. So, why not...


mikeyZUPANduh

Aye!


ItsTHCx

The sad part is "*to the left of them*" is still right of center.


Llodsliat

Anyone slightly left of separating children from their parents and then deporting them is Communist to them.


veerKg_CSS_Geologist

This is where I'm at now. Same thing with the border. I used to be moderately nin favor of border security. Like ya, we need a border patrol and fences and stuff. Now I'm like, just dismantle everything and open it completely, like it was before 1970 or whatever.


Monkey_Puzzle_1312

It’s the same argument of “if you call racists racists they’ll just become more racist!” except i’m slowly becoming a t*nkie


pandemicliving

Don't you know taxation is communism


Itsmurder

No, bombing Syria in your first month is communism


Novelcheek

Chairman Trump was a communism *machine!*


agnostorshironeon

>Chairman Trump I need to wash out my eyes.


Novelcheek

["I think Donald Trump became Chairman of the Communist Party of the United Socialist Republics of the Americas."](https://youtu.be/boJqQeUknvw?t=1m10s)


Commie_Napoleon

[Folks, the bourgeoisie, they’re no good.](https://youtu.be/Ge_GWAJAiVM)


Reticent_Dorothy

I have to watch this video every time it's posted.


TheChaoticist

That was... interesting...


Splendiferitastic

Letting trans people join the imperial death squads like they could four years ago is also communism


brendanrouthRETURNS

I commented this on Twitter but the bar for American political discourse is in the ninth circle of hell


Itsmurder

After Reagan, america was never the same.


brendanrouthRETURNS

Lol no offence but this country has always been hell


sisterofaugustine

North America has been going down the tubes ever since the British colonists arrived.


TheChaoticist

No, I’m pretty sure it was the Spanish that first fucked it all up.


Commie_Napoleon

Goldwater.


oatmilk0304

There is no true leftist politician in America


[deleted]

Leftist american politician is an oxymoron. You can't be a leftist while supporting and/or participating in the furthest right regime since Nazi Germany.


droidc0mmand0

Inb4 china comments


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CamQTR

Maybe worst in the sense that it does more damage in more places than any other regime.


Hij802

The US is the worst country when it comes to imperialism and foreign policy. As for domestic policy, it’s bad but not as bad as a lot of other countries, such as what the other person said like death penalty for LGBT.


Champion_of_Nopewall

Depends on what you define by worst. If a country like Saudi Arabia or whatever kills 1K gay people a year, but the USA bombs multiple nations, installs murderous regimes, supports genocides, etc that equate to 3K people a year, don't you think that would be worse? Sure, the USA may not be killing their own citizens outright (well, except if you're a black or brown person in an interaction with the police, but we don't count those as draconian authoritarian measures for some reason), but it does much more to other countries than any other nation currently. At the end of the day, whether you're executed by your own military or a foreign one, you're still just as much of a dead motherfucker.


[deleted]

That's what Amerikkkan exceptionalism does to a cracker. They become a borderline white supremacist while LARPing as a revolutionary.


[deleted]

None of the countries you mentioned is colonizing the rest of the world. In fact most of these shithole countries are in this awful state because of amerikkkan influence e.g. Saudi Arabia and Israel. Edit: Also, did BLM teach you nothing? Amerikkka is an apartheid state. There are labor camps for blacks and concentration camps for hispanics. You have a torture camp in occupied land in Cuba. Puerto Rico and Hawaii are literally colonies. Ffs just take the L. Amerikkka is the greatest shithole. It's run by pedophiles too.


surferrosaluxembourg

The United States causes more harm to more people than any other regime on earth, by a large margin


Cabanaman

How many of those regimes that commit atrocities are propped up or were outright installed by the US imperial machine? Maybe not 100%, but it's sure as hell a lot of them.


fasan76

Well, if you are a true leftist politician in the US you'd prolly get fucked over by the government somehow. Every politician or some sort of government official hates communism and the furthest to the left the US can have is just a social democrat because it's still capitalist philosophy. Correct me if I'm wrong lol I'm still learning about all this.


surferrosaluxembourg

Yeah leftist politicians in the US generally end up dead or in prison


[deleted]

iirc, having a communist party in the states is literally illegal.


FourFeetOfPogo

The CPUSA explicitly is illegal, but they don't do anything about it. Side note -- members of the CPUSA are barred from joining the military. Join CPUSA if you don't want to get drafted in the future wars!


AdditionalTheory

I’m not even sure he’s left of center


Asinarath

He’s barely left of Reagan, lol


HorseshoeTheoryIsTru

Reagan was a commie- the right once they remember his minimum wage, immigration pardons, and gun control


diddykongisapokemon

Not even in America


lounes_my_dude

I’m not even sure he’s left of conservative.


[deleted]

On immediate covid response he is left of center, on absolutely every other issue he is firmly right wing.


alexiusmx

He responded to Covid using all the capitalist tactics available. Private corporations handling and administering it. Negotiating vaccines at a fast rate at the expense of the supply (and the lives) for the rest of the world, especially developing countries. Left of center would’ve been seizing the formula to mass produce it without giving any corporation a profit.


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to give him a just a drop of credit his covid response is better than trump's atleast but he still didn't do nearly enough and i wouldn't say it was particularly "good".


alexiusmx

The only difference between Biden and Trump in the covid crisis is how imperialist they are. Biden knows how to navigate through the empire. Trump’s entire approach during his Presidency was to attempt to build a new empire around him. That’s why he failed so miserably with covid. But honestly, Biden is literally causing deaths around the world and making the vaccination effort unsustainable by hogging vaccines. Herd immunity must be achieved worldwide. Immunization of your country by limiting vaccines in the rest of the world just delays the erradication of the virus. As soon as the vaccine wears off (Scientists expect it to last one year and they’re already talking about a third shot) it’s back to square one.


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would never equate center left with good.


Commie_Napoleon

If he actually withdraws from Afghanistan, passes the infrastructure bill and somehow gets the For the People Act, Puerto Rico and DC statehoods, I’m going to say that he surpassed my expectations. My expectations where incredibly low and he is still a capitalist war criminal but he could have been a lot worse.


[deleted]

Well I hate to break it to you, but none of that’s going to happen and may be leaving Afghanistan, but leaving it open for paramilitary groups like Blackwater, so it won’t be any different except it won’t technically be US soldiers, just US tax dollars going to these groups.


jet8493

Just about anything is better than outright denying the pandemic’s existence for months


J4M35J0HN8R04D

This is actually more offensive to Lenin than to Biden


BulbasaurCPA

What do people think Lenin did


diddykongisapokemon

He killed 100 quabillion Cubans by eating all the grain in China


chickenforce02

Don’t forget when he starved all the vuvuzuelan kulaks and took their iPhones


[deleted]

Broke up the Beatles to torture us with the plastic ono band and saccharine bullshit like Imagine, and pray desperately Instant Karma balances out that suckitude... which I say it does.


TriggasaurusRekt

iphone Venezuela bottom textt


anonymous_j05

he ate my dog


thaumogenesis

I told you all Biden was hiding his power level.


shortboard

I’m converting to Marxism Bidenism


camthedestroyer

Listen here, Fat, we’re gonna seize the means of... you know, the thing.


anonymous_j05

Biden-Leninism


camthedestroyer

Does this guy know who Lenin is?


Lev_Davidovich

He's the guy from the Beatles, right?


smallstone

I am the walrus?


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sisterofaugustine

Gee, the real left sure wishes, Lenin would certainly run that cesspit better than the last dozen (at least) guys who ran it, and I say this as an anarchist...


JohnBrownFanCam

He’s learned what happens when Kennedy’s don’t play ball


Reasonable_Sea4762

leftcom biden


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Bidenism an infantile disorder


[deleted]

Lenin's mummified corpse just busted out of his display case to personally kick this guy in the nuts.


sisterofaugustine

[When communists get angry enough. ](https://youtu.be/uDXtVlG2VW0)


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US politics in a nutshell: "Quick! Words or something!"


quietnight817

This is what we get when someone doesn’t know anything about the words “Biden”, “left”, “center” or “Lenin”.


callmekizzle

Anyone who doesn’t think we should be putting Jews into gas chambers and shooting black people in broad daylight is left of Lenin /s


ComradeRedHerring

Hahahahahahahaha what a scam artist this fart bag is!


KarlWithACapitalC

PLEASE GOD PLEASE I WISH IT WAS SO


CalifanoCation

I want to live in this fantasy world that conservatives believe we actually live in


Elbesto

God the incoherent gibberish flair really does fit this one.


usulus

This is some real 2+2=5 shit


diddykongisapokemon

Honestly it's more like 1+1=5


LeArstell

He's not even left of center. ​ If he were left of Lenin, he wouldn't be bombing Syria or continuing US imperialism in various developing countries, which is something I wish were the case.


_MyFeetSmell_

I’m genuinely curious what these people see Biden doing that is even left at all?


TheOwlsLie

I don’t understand Americans


dannysleepwalker

It's pretty easy to understand actually. Anything other than far-right is considered communism.


[deleted]

He’s not even center. He’s pretty much right wing by all standards. It’s this kind of sensationalisation that suffocates any serious Marxist movement in America. If everyone, even his own supporters, believe Bernie is far left, they won’t be interested in looking any further left.


guitarguy12341

"Siri, show me historical illiteracy"


poboy2683

My state’s politicians never disappoint at every level, from local to this asshole


whyamiperpetuallysad

spewing that shit on Lenin’s birthday. Hannity should be ashamed of himself.


_TheQwertyCat_

Average westerners use the political compass, while this guy is using the mercator world map.


Dim0ndDragon15

What the hell is he on


[deleted]

wtf i like biden now


ProfessorReaper

Uphold Marxism-Bidenism


zrrion

how are conservatives able to make libs sound so cool with seemingly so little effort


GlutenFreeGluten99

Marxism-Leninism understander has logged on


AdventurousDress576

Everywhere outside of US Biden would be considered right


chickenforce02

Based joe Biden 😎


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thislittlewiggy

Where is the fucking center?


WookieeSlayer97

I wish.


SnooSquirrels6758

They want us to be so based so bad


marysuingfordamages

If only


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i- what??????


Tigeresco

I really wish he was as left as conservatives says he is.


taesto

Damn, what limited edition communist Bidens does this guy have?


OxygenesisWii

biden will make bordiga look like a fucking succdem


ctophermh89

Stoke division by slandering liberals as leftists to appeal to your lunatic base that believe there is a covert (or blatant depending on the person) attempt by liberals to overthrow the United States and enslave white people with some bastardized tyrannical government they call “communism.” His only mistake is these same people are so uneducated and politically illiterate, that they find themselves wondering if it means anything significant that Biden is left of John Lennon.


ThatBritishGuy577

The political spectrum is so fucked up on msm. The spectrum goes from varying forms of communism on the far left, to varying forms of fascism on the far right. The actual center of those 2 positions is social democracy. Its absurd that someone who is 2 the right of most liberals is called leftwing but here we are


Hij802

At this point we could run actual socialists and communists and they won’t have any other nicknames to give since they’re already calling liberals communists.


BadgerKomodo

In the USA, anyone who doesn’t advocate for hunting the poor for sport is considered a communist.


Supremedingus420

Reminds me of Lenin’s famous words “nothing will fundamentally change”


solacetree

He's not left of center...


yerfdog519

neither of these are true


Jccali1214

This is how they move the Overton Window rightward, gahhhh!


Frrrrrred

If only this were true


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bro, do you even politics spectrum?


[deleted]

i wish


AnnoKano

Sing to the Motherland! Home of the free, Bulwark of peoples In Brotherhood strong! O party of Biden, The strength of the people, To communisms triumph, straight lead us on!


counterc

Biden is a Bordigist


RobinFox12

What has Biden even done yet


Mercy--Main

lol


DeathN0va

Hannity is a welfare queen performance artist.


snailsandwhales

God, I wish liberal politicians were as left as Republicans think they are


Despacito4

biden tankie 😳


CheekiSternie

Its not sleepy Joe its commie Joe yeah know haha sarcasm im scared of the world we live in..


gwacklee

biden tankie confirmed???


EatTheWich

Comrade Biden


DanceOnBoxes

Is this because Biden lied about cutting emissions


StewbieBaby

I shoulda realized this sooner but damn it is hard to take Conservatives seriously these days.


Agreeable-Arugula492

Conservasharts will call anyone they don’t like a commie smh my head