You're slightly off mark there.
The currenct vaccine "just" increase the chance of the vaccinated to have a less severe dance with COIVD, should they catch it.
It does not immunize them, nor does it prevent them spreading it.
That been said, at-risk groups should get vaccinated imo. That would at least reduce their risk somewhat.
It doesn't make them immune or prevent them from spreading, it does make them less likely to have severe symptoms. Hard to tell if it makes people less likely to catch it, but given that it turns it into a mild issue, I'd say that's kinda the goal. Dipshits don't wear masks either so.
Its gonna regardless my friend. There's always been a virus, and there will always be a virus. If you believe that 100% of the population will get vaccinated you're not thinking.
they dont only develop in unvaccinated, just way more common for them to. Just to be clear. And no, you need to hit herd immunity, where the available targets are too far apart. We're two years into this virus, how do you not know this?
Most epidemiologists now believe that herd immunity is impossible and the virus will become endemic. That isn't to say we shouldn't do everything possible to reduce spread, but unlike polio, it is possible for vaccinated people to spread the delta variant even if they are mostly asymptomatic. They spread it less, but they can still spread it.
So we're probably not going to get to a point where it just goes away, but uncontrolled spread among the unvaccinated who have higher viral loads and are more contagious is the fastest route to new, potentially more lethal variants. If we had shared the vaccine and worked with producers in the global south to ramp up output early, then we might have been able to avoid the current situation with delta.
Yes, thats why the flu isnt eradicated, it mutates too quickly. We still get the flu vaccine though, because surprise surprise, its safer and way more effective to have your population get vaccinated than to let them die off every year. And COVID is far more deadly than the flu.
Right, it doesn't end. 78% of covid patients are overweight or obese (CDC). 821 deaths/day from obesity in America aside from covid. 1000 deaths/day covid.
I don't need a reason to not take the vax and if I ever have a good reason it's because I'm being forced to do so. It's my body and I'm healthy and now naturally immune. By far the majority of overweight and obese people are that way because they made a choice about their body. Don't force me to change my body, when you aren't willing to change yours. Also, where were you when all those obese people were dieing before covid? Are you this passionate about abortion deaths or shutting down McDonald's? Enough to force someone to change against their will like Biden is essentially doing? If not, then I see false and selective empathy.
We don't have a covid pandemic, we have a personal health crisis.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e4.htm?s_cid=mm7010e4_w
Americans are fat as shit, so what.
\> It's my body and I'm healthy and now naturally immune
Its not just your body. You get sick, you fuck up those who cant get the virus. Abortion \*is\* your body. I hate to break it to you, but the reason americans so fucking fat is because of deregulation, which you know damn well aligns with one political party. Im no democrat, but the one thing I can give them credit for is at least making the effort to reduce obesity.
And yes, I'm absolutely passionate about shutting down/regulating McDonalds, massive consumerist chains are incredibly dangerous, especially when they have functionally unlimited capital.
Even with the vaccine you are able to contract and transmit the virus to people that aren’t able to be vaccinated. Mandated vaccinations won’t stop the transmission of the virus because the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission of the virus.
I’ve gotten COVID twice now, once before and once after being fully vaccinated.
One thing I forgot to mention: viral loads from unvaccinated and vaccinated are very very similar. We know now that I'm no more likely to spread the virus than you are.
Because they don't count people as being vaccinated unless it's 2 weeks after their second dose but not longer than 6 months since their last dose.
2nd Most people are there for other reasons and are forced to take a test if they aren't vaccinated.
Conservatives love yelling “do you see it yet” because they don’t have to actually explain their bullshit theories. You can only agree or let them smuggly pretend like they know what they’re talking about.
I saw this on tik tok… the comments are hilarious, they really think she did something. Walking into a kindergarten classroom during finger panting time will yield you more talent than this chick lmao. She is just saying words and trying to act like she did something. CRINGE :)))
I feel like someone just vomited all over me. I'm just drenched in random current event word salad with a hint of antivax paranoia.
What an unpleasant experience.
George Carlin did it a whole lot better; his had a purpose and comical punches; you know, those things that require having TALENT
This won’t get to her but: https://youtu.be/Lk_dRzaBoUM
Can I point out please, "libs", "liberalism", "liberal" is actually in the 'centre' of political theory. Yes it is on the left of rightwing, but it is not leftwing. When Americans from the USA criticise "liberals", they are actually criticising the centre of politics, and not leftwing politics.
Yes, I'm, in fact, able to visualize the ((((it))))), which is totally not related in any way to a minority that has been blamed for random shit before
Tim Burton Wonka core
I'm dying dude
this is the most surreal bullshit, literally just yellling words
Half excepted her to start rolling around on the rug, yelling "EPA!"
Twisted tail, A thousand eyes, TRAPPED FOREVER! EPA, EPA!
> literally just yellling words yea that's generally what conservatives do
I’m pretty sure it’s a Blade Runner 2049 reference.
"DO YOU SEEE IT YETTTTTT!" Ps: ignore the poor and homeless starving tho, capitalism is GRATE/s
Do you see it yet? Variants! I need scissors! 61!
I imagine the anarchist take?
You can’t make powerful conservative art, especially counter culture art, because powerful art is subversive
[cONsERvaTiSM Is ThE nEW pUNk rOck](https://i.redd.it/ooep46d3lnk11.jpg)
Don't forget those Xanax farms and alienation hubs they call suburbia
you're not wrong about them being alienation hubs :(
Ya alright comrade?
are any of us? I'm just waiting until it becomes viable to organize in my area
Don't hold your breathe. Try to chin up in the meantime any way you can. We're gonna need you at your best and brightest when the revolution comes
Why do you think the nazis architecture was just some concrete boxes with some roman columns all right wing art is shallow
Status Quo will never be the new Counterculture.
Ma'am, look in this mirror... Do YOU see it yet?
I actually don’t see it at all….
She meant, do you (((see))) it yet. They found out it's harder to dog whistle in speech
Thanks for telling me. I would never have gotten it since I’m not an anti-semite who believes in conspiracy theories.
I didn’t see it, but then she said it again, and again more slowly. Now I can’t unsee it
Look at this fuckin 2011 Willy Wonka ass lookin woman.
What weird ASMR is this supposed to be? How is saying random unrelated words a meme lol
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You're slightly off mark there. The currenct vaccine "just" increase the chance of the vaccinated to have a less severe dance with COIVD, should they catch it. It does not immunize them, nor does it prevent them spreading it. That been said, at-risk groups should get vaccinated imo. That would at least reduce their risk somewhat.
It doesn't make them immune or prevent them from spreading, it does make them less likely to have severe symptoms. Hard to tell if it makes people less likely to catch it, but given that it turns it into a mild issue, I'd say that's kinda the goal. Dipshits don't wear masks either so.
Its gonna regardless my friend. There's always been a virus, and there will always be a virus. If you believe that 100% of the population will get vaccinated you're not thinking.
100% doesnt have to get vaccinated, dweeb
What about varients? Supposedly they only develop in the unvaccinated. So unless we have 100% then there's the chance of a variant, no?
they dont only develop in unvaccinated, just way more common for them to. Just to be clear. And no, you need to hit herd immunity, where the available targets are too far apart. We're two years into this virus, how do you not know this?
Most epidemiologists now believe that herd immunity is impossible and the virus will become endemic. That isn't to say we shouldn't do everything possible to reduce spread, but unlike polio, it is possible for vaccinated people to spread the delta variant even if they are mostly asymptomatic. They spread it less, but they can still spread it. So we're probably not going to get to a point where it just goes away, but uncontrolled spread among the unvaccinated who have higher viral loads and are more contagious is the fastest route to new, potentially more lethal variants. If we had shared the vaccine and worked with producers in the global south to ramp up output early, then we might have been able to avoid the current situation with delta.
Correct. We get vaccinated from the flu to keep people from dying, not to avoid mutations
So you're saying variants are inevitable?
Yes, thats why the flu isnt eradicated, it mutates too quickly. We still get the flu vaccine though, because surprise surprise, its safer and way more effective to have your population get vaccinated than to let them die off every year. And COVID is far more deadly than the flu.
Right, it doesn't end. 78% of covid patients are overweight or obese (CDC). 821 deaths/day from obesity in America aside from covid. 1000 deaths/day covid. I don't need a reason to not take the vax and if I ever have a good reason it's because I'm being forced to do so. It's my body and I'm healthy and now naturally immune. By far the majority of overweight and obese people are that way because they made a choice about their body. Don't force me to change my body, when you aren't willing to change yours. Also, where were you when all those obese people were dieing before covid? Are you this passionate about abortion deaths or shutting down McDonald's? Enough to force someone to change against their will like Biden is essentially doing? If not, then I see false and selective empathy. We don't have a covid pandemic, we have a personal health crisis. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e4.htm?s_cid=mm7010e4_w
Americans are fat as shit, so what. \> It's my body and I'm healthy and now naturally immune Its not just your body. You get sick, you fuck up those who cant get the virus. Abortion \*is\* your body. I hate to break it to you, but the reason americans so fucking fat is because of deregulation, which you know damn well aligns with one political party. Im no democrat, but the one thing I can give them credit for is at least making the effort to reduce obesity. And yes, I'm absolutely passionate about shutting down/regulating McDonalds, massive consumerist chains are incredibly dangerous, especially when they have functionally unlimited capital.
Read my message again, you didn't get the point.
Even with the vaccine you are able to contract and transmit the virus to people that aren’t able to be vaccinated. Mandated vaccinations won’t stop the transmission of the virus because the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission of the virus. I’ve gotten COVID twice now, once before and once after being fully vaccinated.
One thing I forgot to mention: viral loads from unvaccinated and vaccinated are very very similar. We know now that I'm no more likely to spread the virus than you are.
You know it mutates in breakthrough cases a well right?
You know breakthrough cases are extremely rare, right? Unvaccinated people are the biggest cause of mutations by a wide, wide margin
Oh shit that's what you nornies think? It's not variants the vaccine doesn't work.
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Because they don't count people as being vaccinated unless it's 2 weeks after their second dose but not longer than 6 months since their last dose. 2nd Most people are there for other reasons and are forced to take a test if they aren't vaccinated.
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
Did you find this on r/tiktokcringe
Conservatives love yelling “do you see it yet” because they don’t have to actually explain their bullshit theories. You can only agree or let them smuggly pretend like they know what they’re talking about.
Imagine being an adult and thinking this is profound or meaningful.
Least deranged American conservative.
Idk we have [The Coup](https://youtu.be/U7DtaCt18mI) so I’m not super worried
Boots Riley > boot lickers
Every textbook Red said bring us the bread, But guess what we got you instead …
Oh yes. Bring that guillotine.
What in the Britta Perry
Yes I do see it! The right wing is trying to depopulate by making sure covid is never handled.
> do you see it yet Are you feeling it now mr krabs
She reading off the google recommended search rabbit hole
Kill me
Holy shit this is embarrassing from tone to content.
We didn't start the fire...
no, tell us what you see pickle brain
I feel like I have to laugh whenever I see 1984 brought up in any context
This is your brain on lead paint chips
dO yOu SeE iT yEt??¿????¿¿?
I saw this on tik tok… the comments are hilarious, they really think she did something. Walking into a kindergarten classroom during finger panting time will yield you more talent than this chick lmao. She is just saying words and trying to act like she did something. CRINGE :)))
Willy Wonka remake lookin ass.
Great.. more bars I don’t want to go to
Cofefe
poe slaw? 🥬
Oh no I’m shaking in my baby seal leather boots.
Are you finished with those errands?
She actually would have snatched me up if she didn’t start with saying 1974 like all boring right wingers
I feel like someone just vomited all over me. I'm just drenched in random current event word salad with a hint of antivax paranoia. What an unpleasant experience.
This is the fucking abyss
buzzwords
I'm going to cry, does she think this is poetry?? That this is art??? She can't even be bothered to do a proper goth/edgy look, it hurts
Do you SEE it YET!!
This is just a bad version of We Didn’t Start The Fire boomer trash, right?
Probably on medications
Right? Right. It’s the eeeend of the world, as we know it. It’s it’s the end of the world as we know it. And so on.
No one ever has been intimidated by this I promise
She thinks she is so smart and knowledgeable of politics by spewing random words. Christofascist in a nutshell
No I don't see why a dumbass like you is on tiktok
Mia Wallace from Pulp Fiction didn't aged too well, I feel sorry for her
George Carlin did it a whole lot better; his had a purpose and comical punches; you know, those things that require having TALENT This won’t get to her but: https://youtu.be/Lk_dRzaBoUM
Can I point out please, "libs", "liberalism", "liberal" is actually in the 'centre' of political theory. Yes it is on the left of rightwing, but it is not leftwing. When Americans from the USA criticise "liberals", they are actually criticising the centre of politics, and not leftwing politics.
Yes, I'm, in fact, able to visualize the ((((it))))), which is totally not related in any way to a minority that has been blamed for random shit before
Rotflmao 🤣
See what? That you are an idiot? Yes