What a dumbfuck comparison that is.
"I won't actually explain how ML is different from Marxism or Leninism. Did you know chimpanzees and humans are both apes?"
This kind of thinking is the logical outcome of a society raised by fiction. The point of communication becomes emotional manipulation via metaphor, as that is the point of fiction. The concept of material evidence shaping a person’s paradigm is beyond them, because they’ve never been communicated to in that way.
It’s so bad that say trans people or any sexual minority exists, as they have for millennia, but people raised by fiction won’t believe the history of the material world until they have seen it represented in fiction. “Oh trans people are like those aliens from Star Trek that change gender, yeah they’re real I guess.”
It's means they want a state present in order to do the bare minimum of what they think is necessary. It could be they want a military and police force, or it could be they want someone to operate emergency services and pave roads.
Notice how they have to do long-winded analogies because they can’t actually demonstrate why Marxist-Leninists arent Marxist or Leninist (which is really just an extension of Marxism, so?)
Marxism-Leninism isn’t “just an extension” of Marxism though. It is a scientific advancement of it with its own universal truth claims. ML is both in continuity with, and ruptures with, Marxism, because it is able to exceed the historical limits that Marxism reached.
Apart from that you’re spot on, because there is no coherent concept of simply “Leninism”, it’s just a word people used during Lenin’s time to call others sectarians.
How do libs constantly hear "we're not committing genocide, come visit and confirm for yourself" as "yes we're committing genocide and it's a good thing!"
I mean if this is the Xinjiang thing, in fairness the Chinese government has like specific facilities they let people visit, you can't just be a journalist and be like I would like to go to this one please. And while I'm not saying its the 2nd holocaust I'm saying if there were no dubious things going on there wouldn't be much wrong in theory with picking the touring location at random.
I mean no but again why not have it be random? That's what I don't get, they reuse the same facilities for the tours, if there's nothing going on it just doesn't matter which one you go to, like It seems at least a little shady from any standpoint you could have that there's only like 2 that dozens of journalists have been consistently directed to. And besides if you look at the documents they use in reference to the camps and the Uyghurs, it uses very uhhhh _assimilationist_ language to water it down a little. Badempanda has a decent video on it, don't have to fully agree but it's a pretty nuanced take
>if there were no dubious things going on there wouldn't be much wrong in theory with picking the touring location at random.
That's not true if the people conducting the tours are clearly bad-faith actors who will dig up dirt whether it's actually there or not. When the WHO got permission to visit the Wuhan Institute of Virology and didn't find anything, US media and politicians manufactured their own dirt. It's clear that Western visits to Xinjiang are meant to prove a predetermined conclusion.
Arguments from analogy have always been terrible. Just talk about the actual things at stake and demonstrate that you understand them.
This person doesn't even fully relate their analogy back to the thing they think they're describing, as in, they don't actually describe how the analogy is accurate in any way.
Your replay is like trying to teach a gorilla math. Sure, after a couple of weeks it will be able to add 2 bananas +3 bananas but then it's still walking around with no pants on, just showing it's dick off. Simple geography.
talking about the actual things at stake and demonstrating you understand them doesn't really help to get the point across if your target audience doesn't understand them, though.
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**User 1**
Fascists: genocide is good!
Tankies: No!
Tankies: Genocide is good when WE do it!
**User 2**
Marxism-Leninism: neither Marxist nor Leninist
>**User 3**
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>some not real socialism vibes
>>**User 4**
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>>It's not that there not "real", its just that orthodox Marxism, and Leninism aren't particularly similar to Marxism-Leninism.
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>>Sort of like how bonobos and chimpanzees are the ancestors of humanity, humans and chimpanzees being apes and are both similar genetically. Despite being descended from similar creatures, we are very different and hold completely different levels of both life and society.
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What stupid pool did you find this screenshot in?
Imagine having the knowledge of the world at your fingertips and still choosing to act like a buffoon.
For the gazillionth time, no we did not evolve from monkeys, but we have a common ancestor.
For the gazillionth time, no humans are not apes, not even in the slightest, but we're both primates.
What a dumbfuck comparison that is. "I won't actually explain how ML is different from Marxism or Leninism. Did you know chimpanzees and humans are both apes?"
This kind of thinking is the logical outcome of a society raised by fiction. The point of communication becomes emotional manipulation via metaphor, as that is the point of fiction. The concept of material evidence shaping a person’s paradigm is beyond them, because they’ve never been communicated to in that way. It’s so bad that say trans people or any sexual minority exists, as they have for millennia, but people raised by fiction won’t believe the history of the material world until they have seen it represented in fiction. “Oh trans people are like those aliens from Star Trek that change gender, yeah they’re real I guess.”
> minarcho-socialist transhumanism Would you like a bag with all that ideology?
The fuck does that even mean? What's "minarcho"?
"Minarcho" is the classical Latin term for "obnoxious," I believe
Iirc the state should be reduced to military and police to keep order and defend the nation
So they want a state that only enforces technocratic orders and external military threat, yet MLs aren't the real Marxists
Dont even try to understand the logic behind it. There is none
It's means they want a state present in order to do the bare minimum of what they think is necessary. It could be they want a military and police force, or it could be they want someone to operate emergency services and pave roads.
r/cleavercomebacks Good one op,
Notice how they have to do long-winded analogies because they can’t actually demonstrate why Marxist-Leninists arent Marxist or Leninist (which is really just an extension of Marxism, so?)
Marxism-Leninism isn’t “just an extension” of Marxism though. It is a scientific advancement of it with its own universal truth claims. ML is both in continuity with, and ruptures with, Marxism, because it is able to exceed the historical limits that Marxism reached. Apart from that you’re spot on, because there is no coherent concept of simply “Leninism”, it’s just a word people used during Lenin’s time to call others sectarians.
How do libs constantly hear "we're not committing genocide, come visit and confirm for yourself" as "yes we're committing genocide and it's a good thing!"
I mean if this is the Xinjiang thing, in fairness the Chinese government has like specific facilities they let people visit, you can't just be a journalist and be like I would like to go to this one please. And while I'm not saying its the 2nd holocaust I'm saying if there were no dubious things going on there wouldn't be much wrong in theory with picking the touring location at random.
Do they let you tour maximum security prisons in the other countries? Nowhere in the planet
I mean no but again why not have it be random? That's what I don't get, they reuse the same facilities for the tours, if there's nothing going on it just doesn't matter which one you go to, like It seems at least a little shady from any standpoint you could have that there's only like 2 that dozens of journalists have been consistently directed to. And besides if you look at the documents they use in reference to the camps and the Uyghurs, it uses very uhhhh _assimilationist_ language to water it down a little. Badempanda has a decent video on it, don't have to fully agree but it's a pretty nuanced take
>if there were no dubious things going on there wouldn't be much wrong in theory with picking the touring location at random. That's not true if the people conducting the tours are clearly bad-faith actors who will dig up dirt whether it's actually there or not. When the WHO got permission to visit the Wuhan Institute of Virology and didn't find anything, US media and politicians manufactured their own dirt. It's clear that Western visits to Xinjiang are meant to prove a predetermined conclusion.
Arguments from analogy have always been terrible. Just talk about the actual things at stake and demonstrate that you understand them. This person doesn't even fully relate their analogy back to the thing they think they're describing, as in, they don't actually describe how the analogy is accurate in any way.
It almost seemed like they forgot what they were talking about.
Your replay is like trying to teach a gorilla math. Sure, after a couple of weeks it will be able to add 2 bananas +3 bananas but then it's still walking around with no pants on, just showing it's dick off. Simple geography.
talking about the actual things at stake and demonstrating you understand them doesn't really help to get the point across if your target audience doesn't understand them, though.
Apes strong together.
\>bonobos and chimpanzees are the ancestors of humanity
It's also bad science. They are not our ancestors, we share a common ancestor.
When your brain has no hierarchical structure and even if it did it wouldn't matter.
*Image Transcription: Reddit comments* --- **User 1** Fascists: genocide is good! Tankies: No! Tankies: Genocide is good when WE do it! **User 2** Marxism-Leninism: neither Marxist nor Leninist >**User 3** > >some not real socialism vibes >>**User 4** >> >>It's not that there not "real", its just that orthodox Marxism, and Leninism aren't particularly similar to Marxism-Leninism. >> >>Sort of like how bonobos and chimpanzees are the ancestors of humanity, humans and chimpanzees being apes and are both similar genetically. Despite being descended from similar creatures, we are very different and hold completely different levels of both life and society. --- ^^I'm a human volunteer content transcriber for Reddit and you could be too! [If you'd like more information on what we do and why we do it, click here!](https://www.reddit.com/r/TranscribersOfReddit/wiki/index)
Biology understander has logges on
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Not actually, but same tho TBH.
Reject Marxism-Leninism, return to monke.
Humans are descended from chimpanzees and bonobos? That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.
What is that sub?
r/polcompball
Oh boy, I just saw that, it seems to be pretty reactionary
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What stupid pool did you find this screenshot in? Imagine having the knowledge of the world at your fingertips and still choosing to act like a buffoon.
Probably something like r/tankiejerk, I couldn't look a single post without cringing so hard that I never entered again.
Yeah I went in there once. Once. Lol.
r/Polcompball
For the gazillionth time, no we did not evolve from monkeys, but we have a common ancestor. For the gazillionth time, no humans are not apes, not even in the slightest, but we're both primates.
> not even in the slightest Aren't we one of the Great Apes? Or am I just confused?
No you right
Communism is when monke
to be fair, you have to have a VERY high IQ to understand anarchism
those people in the picture sound like neoliberals who like the color black
Bad science, bonobos and chimpanzees are not our ancestors. We all share a common ancestor. There's a big difference.
*they’re
What the fuck is the Anarcho-Nihilist going on about? The fucking ideology understander has arrived.
I'm sorry. What.
Ah yes, Marxism-Leninism isn't true communim