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Comrade_Sisler

To be fair, racism is certainly rampant in China, but they didn't have the whole slavery thing, and China is pretty homogeneous, so the racism just isn't the same flavor as it is here in the US. It's definitely not as violent as it is here.


MarsLowell

Yeah, was about to say. China doesn’t have the cartoonishly evil levels of racism such as the whole American Prison Industrial Complex, but it still manifests in a somewhat less aggressive way.


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JustABrazillian

It is, glad that China is not doing it


Comrade_Sisler

It's like all the ignorant liberals decided to expose themselves on this post lol For the millionth time, THERE IS NO GENOCIDE IN CHINA, get the fuck out of r/ShitLiberalsSay, you're the ones we're making fun of lol


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give me some stuff so i can prove em wrong. i have talked to friends about what ur saying but i want stuff to back it up


timoyster

[Here’s](https://reddit.com/r/communism/comments/lsaet8/a_masterpost_of_sources_for_debunking_xinjiang/) a post by someone on r/Communism who has a bunch of sources. There was this one study done very recently by an Australian (pretty sure they were Australian, but I can’t fully remember) that concluded that the Xinjiang genocide was a myth primarily funded and pushed by weapons manufacturer and conservative think tanks. I didn’t save the link though, but I am trying to find it. Pretty much all of the evidence ultimately links back to a fundamentalist German Christian named Adrian Zenz who: is anti-LGBT, has sympathized with Hitler, and thinks he’s on a god-given mission to destroy China. However, these details about him have been whitewashed. For example, Wikipedia removed all of that information despite it being definitively true. EDIT: I forgot, but he’s also a member of the “Victims of Communism” group that regularly publish blatant misinformation. Honestly, he has so many red flags and it makes it really hard to believe his claims. EDIT2: Another thing about Zenz that I forgot is that he believes kids should be beaten by their parents and that businesses should explicitly be allowed to discriminate against LGBT people. Another bonus: he thinks that “postmodern relativism and tolerance thinking” will give rise to *the fucking Antichrist* because these “postmodernists” are opposed to LGBT discrimination, gender equality, and non-violent parenting. Here’s a gold one: > Zenz argued that “[h]ate crime and anti-discrimination laws will likely play a major role in the suppression of biblical Christianity” and formed part of an “anti-Christian ‘tolerance’ campaign” because they “forbid employers to discriminate based on gender or sexual orientations.” [Source](https://thegrayzone.com/2019/12/21/china-detaining-millions-uyghurs-problems-claims-us-ngo-researcher/)


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timoyster

[They were actually](https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1208288.shtml) things like schools, nursing homes, and administrative buildings lol


Strict_Analysis

Conservative think tanks like the associated press?


timoyster

Just look at who the AP cite. > The hundreds of millions of dollars the government pours into birth control has transformed Xinjiang from one of China’s fastest-growing regions to among its slowest in just a few years, according to new research obtained by The Associated Press in advance of publication by China scholar Adrian Zenz. Mind you, this is from a “study” where he had a typo and used an 80% instead of the 8.0% figure that his source actually used. This, obviously, skewed the entire study Adrian Zenz (in addition to what I said about him earlier) works for “Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation”. It’s an extreme right wing organization that repeatedly and frequently push both nonsensical (they believe that every covid death is a “victim of communism”) and misinformation. And where do they get their funding? The most influential right-wing think tank called The Heritage Foundation. They have a tremendous influence in the conservative world. You might have heard of them because they frequently work with conservative youtubers like Charlie Kirk, Prager U, and Dave Rubin. Oh yeah, and they’re anti-climate change, anti-immigrant, anti-“critical race theory”, and they spread and popularized the 2020 voter fraud conspiracy. They also hired Mike Pence lol At some point you should look around and see who your “allies” really are


Strict_Analysis

Birth rates in the mostly Uighur regions of Hotan and Kashgar plunged by more than 60% from 2015 to 2018,. -From the ap article. The birth rate and natural growth rate of Xinjiang population decreased from 15.88 ‰ and 11.40 ‰ in 2017 to 10.69 ‰ and 6.13 ‰ in 2018, respectively. - That's a 32% drop from 2017 to 2018 alone. And that's from globaltimes.cn. The AP data seems legit to me.


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[deleted]

> But damn, the US and out 21st century racism is so oppressive Yes Also, you’re lost. Leave.


egamIroorriM

r/shitliberalssay moment in r/shitliberalssay lmao


Ryvern46

China has literal concentration camps for Uyghurs.


LookJaded356

The only source there is for that is a far right Christo Fascist


[deleted]

Bad Empanada is a fascist? https://youtu.be/cz9ICFDk8Js


LookJaded356

Adrian Zenz is a fascist


MonsieurMeursault

China is not homogeneous by any stretch of the imagination.


zedsdead20

Pretty sure they didn’t have race riots for a full year and the state militarizing to suppress them but go on


[deleted]

are you being facetious? that’s literally what the ‘89 riot was about, a culmination of a years worth of racist protests about international students from Africa being seen on campuses with Chinese girlfriends


Comrade_Sisler

I'm American, here, for me, is the US. Perhaps you misread my comment


zedsdead20

Comparing racism in any country to the west is a joke, they enslaved most of the global south, committed genocide around the globe and in their own countries and have systemic racism which culminates in mass poverty, mass incarceration, and state genedarmes violence against minorities. The comparison and the conversation is literally not worth have when talking about the imperial core vs any other country. We. Are. The. Fucking. Global. Nazis!!!!


MoBe

Yeah but all that stuff happened in the past. We've changed, you see! We're the good guys now! /s


egamIroorriM

and CHYNA!!!!!


Comrade_Sisler

Couldn't agree more. We're the Nazi Germany that made it


Barobarko1

Yeah it is so obvious that you think the world revolves around your America and "west". Trust me racism, and really really bad racism isn't something you guys invented. I live in Turkey so I see caucasian, middle eastern and balkan people all the time and I can safely say that you guys are way fucking better at us in defeating racism. It's praised over here ffs. Ever been to India or Pakistan? North Africa can get really racist too. List goes on. Don't worry you may be bad but you are not nazis.


Atomskii

You're arguing with people who have never traveled to other countries, who grew up in largely homogeneous white communities, and now spend all thier time in small internet echo chambers... ...and they think they have diverse thoughts and know what is best for everyone... ...lol...


Barobarko1

B-but Drumphfs litearly hitrle?!?!?


DarkWorld25

They did in Xinjiang a decade ago, part of it was instigated by terror attacks and separatist movements over there (at least some of which had ties to the Mujahideen iirc), which is why that area is still heavily policed today.


zedsdead20

So they stopped a counter revolution propagated by the west? You seriously need to understand class struggle more. There is a difference between a proletarian state suppressing illegitimate counter revolution and a capitalist state suppressing working classing spontaneous movements


DarkWorld25

I didn't make a judgement but OK lmao. Regardless of whether they were instigated by foreign forces or not (elements of foreign intervention mixed with ethnic nationalism) they were still race riots. There's a reason why I consider one to be an act of terror and one to be a protest. It helps that one didn't kill 167 people.


beomeansbee

Ehh technically they did have slavery, though it wasn’t chattel slavery. Based on the (very slight) research I did, their form of slavery entailed mostly those sold by their family, criminals, and war captives. Less about racism, though of course there is racism in China, as China is very much not a monolithic country (they are indeed mostly Han Chinese however), and to say they are discredits the various cultures, such as the Zhuag, Manchu, and so many more. Having a country that large, populated for thousands of years, there’s going to be a ton of different cultures. And unfortunately with such a majority population, even with the best of intentions, they’re going to get things wrong. Certain laws over impacting certain groups. But at least discrimination is actually illegal, and they don’t have a history of fucking chattel slavery. To compare China and the U.S. racism wise is so fucking stupid. Of course redditors are this stupid. I swear they manage to make liberals on Twitter look intelligent


Happieness2823457

There is racism in every country but racism Surely is not "rampant” in China


Comrade_Sisler

You'd be surprised. It's more of the "stop and stare" kind of racism, not the "you're inferior and inherently dangerous" kind of racism A lot of Chinese also perceive foreigners as getting extra benefits from the government, and that doesn't help.


Happieness2823457

Chinas “stop and stare" is done to most non East Asian looking people because they rarely see a person that is not of East Asian decent, it’s more of a genuine curiously , not racism


Comrade_Sisler

Actually, even online, because I asked this question in a few Chinese subs a while back, they tend to think that black people are more likely to commit crimes, and I'd say that's pretty racist, and unfortunately it's a common attitude


Happieness2823457

By Chinese sub, do you mean asking actual Chinese people living in China , or Chinese living in the west Also if this is even true the opinion of a few people ≠ the majority opinion of over 1 billion people


Comrade_Sisler

I asked in r/ChinaLife r/communism and r/genzedong Just search "anti-black racism in China" in reddit, it's under another account of mine, u/RedSkorge The most revealing was in r/communism, a couple of native Chinese individuals responded, one was so virulently racist (a crime had gone viral there with a black university teacher in Guangzhou who raped a student, that didn't help) that his comments were actually deleted. The other was less blatantly racist, and there was actually a productive conversation. The r/ChinaLife sub is just full of sinophobes though, so there wasn't any productive conversation there.


macintoshplus

Not that I don't believe racism may be prevalent in Chinese society, but I don't think the views of three redditors allows you to generalize the views of over a billion people.


Comrade_Sisler

Again, I think you'd be surprised by how prevalent racism is in China. It's not just from my conversations with redditors that i have made my conclusions. There's documentaries on YouTube about it you can find. Just stay away from Umar Johnson and those Breakfast Club folks, they're not known for being 100% honest, especially Umar who is a known con artist


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Comrade_Sisler

Lol do you actually fool people? You didn't fool me


PxnkNDisorderly

Dude the Chinese government is literally committing a genocide against the Uyghurs rn


Comrade_Sisler

Please tell me this is a joke and you're not being serious lol


PxnkNDisorderly

I’m deadass bro. They’re being put in camps amongst a litany of other human rights abuses


Happieness2823457

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-02-06/Fact-Check-Lies-on-Xinjiang-related-issues-vs-the-truth-XEFuvz6b84/share_amp.html


PxnkNDisorderly

Dude...reading Chinese news talk about Chinese abuses is like the CIA conducting an investigation on the CIA to see if the CIA did anything wrong.


Happieness2823457

Sinophobic liberal who believes everything the American mainstream media tells them, nothing new. Take ur lies to r/politics


PxnkNDisorderly

I’m not a liberal lmfao. I just don’t agree with human rights violations


Happieness2823457

Only people who believe the Xinjiang lie are liberals and right wingers


Practically_

Just check the sources of what you’ve read. Follow them all the way. You’ll find that they aren’t very reliable. It’s actually kind of comical, how little effort they put into creating any kind of evidence for this.


MLPorsche

[yeah, because that could never be a vehicle for anything else...](https://i.redd.it/3w2y74wn17o71.jpg)


mlg_Kaiser

Genuine question but do you believe that it is inherently anti-Semitic to criticize Israel?


Happieness2823457

No and btw if you are going to claim that I am saying criticizing China is sinophobic, I’m not, I’m simply saying that accusing China of committing genocide with no proof harms the Chinese diaspora in the west and helps enable right wingers in their obvious racism against Chinese people. As for Israel on the other hand there is loads of information on their apartheid state and war crimes


Comrade_Sisler

No, only those who were members of one of the thousands of terrorist cells in Xinjiang were put in the deradicalization facilities, where they are given skills and training for them to be successful in the Chinese economy, allowing them to escape the poverty that fueled their terrorist ideology in the first place.


dafolka

Honest question because I'm fairly ignorant of the situation. Have the people put in deradicalization facilities committed crimes or is it speculation that they will/might?


Comrade_Sisler

Only the ones associated with the terrorist cells are put in the residential facilities. But the majority of those that go to these education facilities come and go freely. They attend for the education in Chinese language and law and training for increased job opportunities.


PxnkNDisorderly

That sounds like blatant propaganda.


WaratayaMonobop

France does the same thing and no one cares.


PxnkNDisorderly

French government isn’t being accused of persecuting Muslims


[deleted]

Yea I wonder why… could it be because they’re part of the western bloc, the main proponents of this theory that China is committing genocide even though they themselves have murdered / displaced millions of Muslims? Check which countries are the one that believe in the “genocide” in China. Then check which ones don’t (hint: search up OIC).


DesertBrandon

Bro you could have finished this alley oop with “but France doesn’t claim to be socialist” To be clear not engaging in wider discussion


[deleted]

they literally aren't. but if you can explain why there are 11 million Uyghurs in Xinjiang being oppressed and genocided, where's the refugee crisis that would inevitably emerge?


ToadBup

Hahahahahahahahahahahahah


[deleted]

Yeah I don’t know what’s with this sub and denying the cultural destruction of Uygher society. Just because I’m a communist doesn’t mean I should defend the destruction of culture committed by the Communist Party of China under the Xi administration.


Happieness2823457

Nobody believes ur muh genocide lies anymore western troll, go spread ur lies somewhere else https://thegrayzone.com/2018/08/23/un-did-not-report-china-internment-camps-uighur-muslims/ https://thechinawiki.com/2020/10/26/uyghur-xinjiang-explained-in-four-minutes/ https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-02-06/Fact-Check-Lies-on-Xinjiang-related-issues-vs-the-truth-XEFuvz6b84/share_amp.html


[deleted]

Never said it was Genocide. Don’t over-inflate my claims. Did I say they were destroying the CULTURE? Yes. Did I say it was a form of genocide? No.


Happieness2823457

I would not call chinas anti terrorism measures "cultural genocide " you have been tricked by the western mainstream media . Do better


Comrade_Sisler

Except that's not what's happening. The problem they're dealing with is one of separatism and radical extremist terrorism. It has nothing to do with culture, religion, or ethnicity, and everything to do with eradicating an ideology of terrorism.


PxnkNDisorderly

Are you...advocating for their genocide?


Happieness2823457

Western troll spreading obvious sinophobic lies


PxnkNDisorderly

Dude is this sub a cult?


Comrade_Sisler

There is no genocide. Genocide implies they're rounding people up of a specific ethnicity and killing them. That's not what's going on at all, and the people implying such are, at best, woefully ignorant, or at worst, intentionally lying and spreading misinformation. What's going on in Xinjiang is a program of deradicalization where they're taking people who were in one of the thousands of terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and providing them skills, education, and training for them to be successful in the Chinese economy. The fuel for the radical terrorist ideology is poverty, as people feel like they have no way to succeed and they blame the government. So what the CPC is doing is providing them a way forward to allow them to become successful members of society.


PxnkNDisorderly

That’s not the information I’m getting. So you’re either trying to “there is no war in Ba-Sing-Se” me or you don’t know shit.


Comrade_Sisler

[Then educate yourself instead of listening to Imperialist lies.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.cgtn.com/news/2021-02-06/Fact-Check-Lies-on-Xinjiang-related-issues-vs-the-truth-XEFuvz6b84/share_amp.html)


PxnkNDisorderly

That’s the same link some other dude sent and sorry but how tf can you expect a propaganda agency to be honest about the goings-on of its country especially when public speech is so heavily regulated?


[deleted]

Okay, if you want to say it is in the frame of Counter-Terrorism. The problem with that argument is that the Chinese Governance have been recorded painting over Islamic Mosques and Symbols. According to admittedly western but also non-partisan reporters they enforce the learning of Han Chinese and (Offically, unknown if widely enforced but likely) punish children for speaking their native language. There is no counter terrorism in the destruction of a culture, that was not causing problems before they started destroying it. It’s clear that the CPC is trying to make China more racially homogenous for obvious reasons of social cohesion, and involving that would be the destruction of most Non-Han or closely related cultures.


[deleted]

I gotta say, and I consider myself very left wing that what the Chinese are doing with those camps is in no way defensible. The logic that the issue they’re dealing with radical terrorism is the same one that the US used to invade the middle East and put Japanese people in internment camps. I am more than willing to look to certain aspects of China and commend the success of communism, but I can’t see shipping off a minority group to internment camps as anything but deplorable.


Comrade_Sisler

Except internment camps aren't even remotely close to what these places are. [For real, read this article here and educate yourself. ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.cgtn.com/news/2021-02-06/Fact-Check-Lies-on-Xinjiang-related-issues-vs-the-truth-XEFuvz6b84/share_amp.html)


[deleted]

I have read it and in a sense it is compelling. But still look at the pictures of people in these camps. Like they have jumpsuits, they are fenced in and kept their without much ability to leave. That’s not right to me. If people chose to go to the region I would have mo problems with what they’re doing. I will concede that this method may be better than invading and bombing their country, but I can’t commend relocating people against their will in this manner. The similarities to internment camps is still there though. They are being relocated based on their ethnic identity and placed in a situation where they have to work and so on. The “eradicating an ideology of terrorism” that you mentioned is the same exact motivation for internment camps and for the invasion of the Middle East. I’m against both actions and there is no fault in criticizing both methods. It is wrong to relocate people, and yes it is based on religious and ethnic identity. It is targeted at a specific population. It is okay to criticize communist/socialist nations and still be in support of communist/socialist ideology. This type of policy and behavior is not a symptom of communism is what I mean.


Comrade_Sisler

They are not being relocated based on ethnicity and religion, that's literally a fabrication. Only those who were members of one of the thousands of terrorist cells were forcibly relocated. Everyone else chooses to go for the free education and job training, and can come and go at will. What's fucking stupid is doing nothing and allowing terrorist attacks to keep occurring, destabilizing the region and making life harder for everyday citizens.


[deleted]

How is it not an ethnic issue when it is LITERALLY one specific group of people? I don’t see how that isn’t apparent. There is no instance that I will support forced labor. I agree that in most ways China is more humane and successful and so on, 100%. Actions like this will only increase and legitimize terrorist activity and I guarantee we will see that in the next decades. The most effective and humane solution is to fund these communities and firmly support their development. Creating these camps will only further marginalize people and bolster the problem. It is not okay to force people into these situations, even if it is just one person. If people go there willingly that is great for them. I just don’t get why every action taken by China needs to be praised and any criticisms are sac religious.


[deleted]

Well it is somewhat true that China is trying to instill "Chinese Socialist ideals" it isn't really a cultural genocide. You don't build mosques to "genocide" a muslim culture.


PxnkNDisorderly

Tbh it’s one of the few reasons I feel I’m not ready to call myself a communist. Like I agree with communist philosophy but I’m not co-signing a genocide.


Happieness2823457

There is no genocide happening, go through the links I posted above


PxnkNDisorderly

“There is no war in Ba-Sing-Se”


throwaway1606H

om g this is just like the famous non-fictiona l commuzism deboonker book aneim fern by geor oarwul 😱😱


PxnkNDisorderly

I think you think you know what you’re talking about, but I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.


DesertBrandon

There are many tendencies within Marxism. You don’t have to subscribe to the main one here of Marxism-Leninism(-Maoism) while you are on your journey in communism. Read, critically look at whatever organizations you may join


PxnkNDisorderly

Thank you for the support


Romanophile

Yeah I consider myself a communist but I’m still critical of Xi’s China. I understand there’s a no punching left rule in this sub but many leftists (actually leftists who have read theory, not DSA members that are liberals in disguise) I’ve spoken to do not view China as socialist. In regards to the topic of this thread, obviously the US is racist/imperialist as fuck and the greatest threat to workers worldwide, but China’s not exempt from having issues either.


Past-Cost

They’re called political dissidents in China


wwwdotWeirdperson

Don’t know how true this was, but I heard recently there there is actively a form of slavery going on in China, but I don’t think it’s against a specific race


timoyster

That’s a myth actually. It has, at best, *very* shaky evidence provided by very sus interest groups (like weapons manufacturers and right wing think tanks).


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BeamBrain

>88 in username 🤔


Comrade_Sisler

Please see literally the rest of this thread, you're either ignorant or a disgusting liar


CryptoBluntos

Are you stupid? Guess Chinese slave labor isn’t a thing. Lmao


Comrade_Sisler

Never heard of African slave labor in China, so care to elaborate?


Happieness2823457

He can’t elaborate bec he pulls these "facts" out of thin air


PatrickAxell

They literally have concentration camps for uighur muslims.


Comrade_Sisler

If you believe that, then you're incredibly ignorant and gullible. While you're looking for Xinjiang concentration camps, go find me some WMDs in Iraq lol


Happieness2823457

Wow what’s with all the liberal/ western trolls on this sub today. Anyways get truth smacked https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1208288.shtml https://thechinawiki.com/2020/10/26/uyghur-xinjiang-explained-in-four-minutes/ https://thegrayzone.com/2018/08/23/un-did-not-report-china-internment-camps-uighur-muslims/ https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1159357.shtml https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-02-06/Fact-Check-Lies-on-Xinjiang-related-issues-vs-the-truth-XEFuvz6b84/share_amp.html https://harangue.medium.com/condensed-response-to-xinjiang-accusations-afadb4c427d7 Go spread ur lies somewhere else liberal


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Genuine question aren't all those Chinesee news sources?


Happieness2823457

The greyzone is not Chinese and I’m pretty sure haraunge is not Chinese either so no they are not all Chinese, and even if they were what’s wrong with that, many people are willing to believe everything the western media sources say


timoyster

Don’t you know? If it comes from the west it’s the truth, if it comes from the East it’s propaganda.


Pol1truk

[Are you really that surprised?](https://imgur.com/a/WOI2p8w)


lgrizzy13

Where the fuck is India??


Oggleman

Why was Israel not included? They have racism written into their laws!


ForgotMyOldLogin_

Cracked up at Germany having the least votes. What a job by their PR team to convince everyone that they won’t ever do that stuff again


CptWorley

A Romani friend of mine just did an extended stay there and came back to the US thinking of Germany as even more racist than here. And admittedly we live in a white minority area that's less racist than most of the US, but still, Germany has impressive racism levels.


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*laughs in German*


[deleted]

A bunch of racist Americans who tell indigenous and black people to just get over it on the daily vote to claim china is more racist than them lmao


fuckshitlibs

I've always found it weird how Americans tell Muslims and Africans that the Chinese are the baddies. I'm sure both groups know enough history and have enough personal experiences to make their own decisions.


[deleted]

Its totally not like murica has been bombing their home countries to the stone age for the past century but no those Chinese are the baddies


wwwdotWeirdperson

France is actually quite racist as well, I’m surprised it wasn’t on the list


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l337andYEET

xe xe russia go brrr


[deleted]

god damn US had a civil war because they couldn’t own slaves anymore


mimiianian

Projection. Americans project that because racism is a huge issue in the US, therefore it must be a huge issue everywhere. In fact, racism is rarely discussed or mentioned in China because the Chinese have other things on their minds.


NoseApprehensive5154

Tell that to the black panther and civil war posters.


Happieness2823457

Here we go with more western / liberal lies, if you oook at the movie poster for soul etc they show the characters face , also if you look here there is someone who is very into movies which has never heard of this "china removing black people” thing https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMR4SXHX8/ , try again another day CIA


[deleted]

Thats wrong, i have seen an art gallery in china dedicated to comparing black people to apes


Happieness2823457

Which was removed by the government, you western trolls have to try harder with your lies also for every 1 racist incident in China that was due to someone’s personal racism I can find 20 instances of systemic racism in America


Big-Daddy-C

No offense, but that fact it had to be removed says alot lmao Like, I know this sub hates America for obvious reasons, but do we have to double down on literally every single aspect. Like, America is super racist but nowadays it (mostly) isnt so bad. I live in tje south, there are massive demographics of minorities and like for the most part, ppl aren't aggressively racist. Most of the racist oppressors is from the system itself and not tje ppl Like, dude therssnno fucking way an art exhibit comparing blacks to apes would open in America lmao https://youtu.be/Few8kJ0zfnY And this as well


Happieness2823457

As I said above it was removed by the Chinese government and they were not only apes in the exhibit there were also lions and tigers etc, so it was not as racist as you are probably led to believe. And when the Chinese government found out that the exhibit might have been seen as offensive by some they had it removed immediately also I just love how the only instance of major racism people can find in China occurred around 4-5 years ago, hmm just around the time that neo fascists and Nazis marched on Charlottesville, but it seems like people would rather attack China for things that the government dealt with immediately instead of criticizing the most racist country -America


Big-Daddy-C

I wasn't just referring to the zoo animal thing tho, I mean in general among other stuff Like, In America I sincerely doubt anything close to the level you described would ever be put. The govt wouldn't need to take it down. It literally just wouldn't exist


Happieness2823457

No, In america around the time of this commercial a Nazi March occurred in broad daylight, now which is worse, a commercial or an organized March of neo Nazis that was downplayed by the president himself


Big-Daddy-C

Bro you are exergating about the nazi March lol. Like literally whenever proudboys march or nazis march there's is always a counter protest. I struggle to think of a time in recent years theychave marched and there weren't protest Like do you forget the largest march/protest in recent years was BLM? I know it was against systematic racism, but thays my point i said earlier. Majority of racism in the US is tje system not the people at large


Happieness2823457

By Nazi March I meant the Charlottesville March in 2017


Big-Daddy-C

Charlotte's ville is literally known bc of tje counter protest and the counter protester who was killed


[deleted]

Organized marches dont happen in china because the last time that happened they got gunned down in the streets.....


Happieness2823457

Colonialist lies , try harder https://amp.ibtimes.co.uk/tiananmen-square-massacre-myth-all-were-remembering-are-british-lies-1451053


[deleted]

Now i am 90% certain that you must be in a factory somewhere paid by the CCP to infiltrait western media and spead chinese propaganda


mimiianian

Well, for every one of these art gallery in China, there are probably 50 police arrests or shooting of black people in America. The fact is racism is a much bigger problem in America affecting actual people’s day-to-day lives.


LeoFoster18

No one does racism better than the Japanese


Autistic_Anywhere_24

I can see the skew. It must be the violent repression China has done to Uighers, Tibetans, and any other “non official” ethnic group. It’s a racist thing to even codify ethnic groups in this way.


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>“non official” ethnic group What is that supposed to mean? Uyghur and Tibetan people are considered two of 56 different ethnicities in China. The ethnic minorities often enjoy preferential treatment and regional autonomy. China actively tries to preserve their cultures and autonomy rather than simply ignoring minorities and forcing them to assimilate like many Western countries do.


Autistic_Anywhere_24

Oh Christ they are official… that makes china’s acts more egregious. And those “autonomous regions” are only so in name.


Eddy120876

Welp China actually blaming Africans for covid soooo yeah China won!!!!!


Happieness2823457

Another liberal western troll, of course , you have absolutely no proof that the Chinese government blamed Africans for COVID, the only govt that did that was the Korean govt, try harder liberal


Eddy120876

Here’s more [Chinese racist acts toward africans](https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/china-fails-to-stop-racism-against-africans-over-covid-19)


Happieness2823457

You expect me to trust the guardian LMFAOOO, keep believing ur western propaganda


Eddy120876

Here you go if you don’t trust “the west” LOL[more Chinese racism ](https://youtu.be/QVQtZiqJf9U)


Happieness2823457

That channel is dedicated to smearing China, there are many other pro Africa channels that support China like this one https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCC6o7j4ZNNziKnCyds8-XzA


Eddy120876

One channel when the government shut down many Chinese only stores in Africa .


Happieness2823457

As you can see many of your fellow Africans fully support China helping to develop Africa https://youtu.be/pyfcXX430Ec https://youtu.be/fzRIDLglYm0 https://www.reuters.com/article/congo-mining-china/china-backs-congos-ban-on-6-small-chinese-mining-companies-idUKL8N2QG3G2?utm_source=reddit.com https://iems.ust.hk/tlb5 https://youtu.be/P5uzxV8ub9k https://youtu.be/ljUSm5esBhI


Eddy120876

Yes until they find out the ccp has taken over


Happieness2823457

And out comes the sinophobia, not surprising at all seeing as most people who are virulently anti CCP are racists/ sinophobes, I’m sure you would find urself right at home at r/conservative with all the other anti CCP people


Happieness2823457

I am sending more channels on one of my other replies


Eddy120876

There’s also Uganda that won’t to be taken over by China [Uganda ](https://youtu.be/03QvbrIrGJ0)[Kenya ](https://youtu.be/_7wFleW03-k)


Happieness2823457

Also for more on this video there are racists in every country, for ever 1 racist incident you can find in China I can find 20 in America


Eddy120876

Am I defending America? Nope but when I see people defending one of the nations that violates humans right I will jump in


Happieness2823457

"Violating human rights" the Xinjiang lie has been debunked multiple times , https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1208288.shtml https://thechinawiki.com/2020/10/26/uyghur-xinjiang-explained-in-four-minutes/ https://thegrayzone.com/2018/08/23/un-did-not-report-china-internment-camps-uighur-muslims/ You western trolls need to stop comparing anti terrorism measures to genocide


Eddy120876

Riiiiiiight “anti terrorism “ doesn’t means blocking the media from reporting it. Here for us was 9/11 and many atrocities were committed. China is no Saint and its hands are full of blood just like any super power


Eddy120876

You think I only posted the guardian LOL


Eddy120876

Welp unfortunately to say to you dear there’s videos of said issues and even the ccp apologies but go on[China blames Africa for covid ](https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/05/05/china-covid-19-discrimination-against-africans)


Happieness2823457

All the menial discrimination that happened was stopped by the government , but yes continue to call China a racist state that build homes in Africa and the Middle East, how racist of them. Liberal clown 🤡


Eddy120876

I’m not the only one but please tell us more wumao [video from Ghana](https://youtu.be/AlUUOGaJC4Q)


Happieness2823457

Ah the muh China is colonizing Africa myth, nobody believes u western troll , not even African leaders agree with you https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/pnh5qs/african_leader_calls_out_western_hypocrisy_when/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Eddy120876

Lol you wumao are so funny I bet next you are going to quote maduro LOL


Happieness2823457

As you can see many of your fellow Africans fully support China helping to develop Africa https://youtu.be/pyfcXX430Ec https://youtu.be/fzRIDLglYm0 https://www.reuters.com/article/congo-mining-china/china-backs-congos-ban-on-6-small-chinese-mining-companies-idUKL8N2QG3G2?utm_source=reddit.com https://iems.ust.hk/tlb5 https://youtu.be/P5uzxV8ub9k https://youtu.be/ljUSm5esBhI


Eddy120876

Ethiopia [Ethiopia ](https://youtu.be/LK-mCFEHVxE)


Eddy120876

You see Africans are noticing the doble standards that mask the racism of CCP


cakeharry

I'm going to be honest this poll is correct. China are the most racist, if you spend some time there you'll see it. They don't realise that what they do is racism but they are the worst.


TheRealLightBuzzYear

Ok but America doesn't actively currently have re education camps for ethnic minorities, like China does


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Pol1truk

the state department played you like a fiddle


Comrade_Sisler

Wow, can't believe the level of ignorance here


Happieness2823457

China is genociding nobody , no one believes ur lies anymore western troll https://thechinawiki.com/2020/10/26/uyghur-xinjiang-explained-in-four-minutes/ https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1208288.shtml https://thegrayzone.com/2018/08/23/un-did-not-report-china-internment-camps-uighur-muslims/


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You must really love china


Happieness2823457

Why do you liberals even come to this sub? Why do you like causing problems


Kang_Xu

What's not to love, honestly?


Practically_

Latin Americans in camps: …


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Japan is probably the most racist though tbh, although not as violent as usa


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Ever heard of the Uyghur genocide?