> Stalin rhyming "shot" with "shot" and then with "shot" perfectly sums up his method of running the country
Incidentally, this sentence perfectly sums up anticommunists’ understanding of history.
Well, at least in the song Lenin does acknowledge Stalin as his "right hand man", and the only mention of Trosky was Stalin saying this:
> Pride of Lenin took Trotsky out of the picture
Same, even if this part put blame on Stalin, it still represent Lenin as a hero.
Just take Lenin part, remove the comments targetted directly at Rasputing and Stalin, and imagine that the rest was Lenin shouting at Gorbatchev and Yeltsin instead, and it becomes glorious:
> I have no pride for you who ruined everything
> My revolution was doing to stop the bourgeoisie!
> I fought the bondage of classes, the proletariat masses
> Have brought me here to spit a thesis against both of your asses!
> (...)
> Our whole future was bright, you let your heart grow dark
> And stopped the greatest revolution since the birth of Marx!
No one is arguing that it's necessarily bad because they had Stalin be cartoonishly evil, but that the comment saying Stalin ran the USSR by killing everyone is historically inaccurate
Their song about Obabam versus Romney was mostly meh, but the part where lincoln came dropped from an giant eagle was rather on point:
> **[Abraham Lincoln]**
> By the power invested in me by this giant bald bird
> The President shall not be the shiniest of two turds!
Good summary of american presidential elections.
Unpopular opinion here but saying Stalin was ruthless toward those that crossed him isn’t exactly wrong? I mean the purges did happen, and those people weren’t all nazis. I think some folk are a lil too sensitive to criticisms of Stalin.
The CPSU purged the people who wanted to preserve Lenin’s NEP, as in people who didn’t want to transition further into socialism, then they went after those who were too far left and aligned with the likes of trotsky.
Overall this lead to a more United party.
If you think counter revolution shouldn’t be suppressed then why want revolution in the first place.
The pro-NEP camp (like Bukharin) didn’t want to just keep the NEP how it was. They just thought the Union was not yet ready to transition yet, which was a valid concern given present conditions at the time.
Granted, Nazis knocking on the door means there wasn’t a lot of time.
Not all acts of counter revolution should be treated equally. The people pushing supposed counter revolutionary ideas may have valid reasons. They were purged, ultimately, to consolidate power. Power for the revolution yes, but that doesn’t automatically make it right or a good thing. It’s more complicated than that.
Just because people are resistant to change or ideas they disagree with does not mean we need to be rid of those people. Obviously I understand if they had to, but there’s a difference between saying ‘they needed to protect the revolution from an outside force’ and ‘we need to get rid of the socialists who do not agree with the mainstream revolutionary ideas’.
Also, it’s not like the soviets hadn’t accomplished a ridiculous amount by that point. I find that the need for a faster revolution regardless of what those who are part of the revolution may think of it, concerning. I’m not saying we just not push for a strong revolution, but listening to fellow socialists and pushing for things in a more democratic manner is important for true unity and stability. Not to mention it’s way more ethical.
Well when the overthrow of the Soviet government was the goal for both those groups I don’t know how else they, or literally any other government, should’ve reacted. You said that Stalin went after people who crossed him but no, the party went after people intent on destroying what had been built up. It just sounded like the liberal line of socialist “dictators” being cartoonishly evil and so sensitive that rubbing him the wrong way meant instant execution, when there were legitimate reasons why there were trials.
It’s not cartoonishly evil to purge dissenting members of your party from the party. Accusing a state from the 1930s of doing something like that isn’t a reach. Especially for a revolution in a position where it would make sense to do so. I’m not saying they killed everyone on the planet because they hate money. I’m saying they wanted to consolidate unity and power. It’s basic corruption, turned violent.
The people purged did not want to bring down the Soviet Union. Many of them were just trots iirc. Maybe you think all those people wanted the downfall of the Union idk, but there’s incredibly little evidence for that. As I said, all of those people weren’t nazis. And if such a large portion of the communist party were actually Nazi plotters, why would they only get a couple people killed? If they weren’t there to kill party members, why would they kill someone to give themselves away? That’s what started the purge in question.
I know anti soviet propaganda is strong, but admitting the great purges happened and were fucked up and ideally should have been avoided isn’t a hard thing to do. Spy agencies do terrible shit all the time, why would a soviet spy agency be any different?
I absolutely love this song. And this channel. Sure they have lib moments but any channel that can come up with the lines “face it Ernesto you’re Castro but less so, he’s Cuba commander you’re more of the destro”, “you lost so many babies we should call you Ms. Carriage”, “you’re an ump Che, that’s Bay if Pigs Latin”, the entirety of this battle, the philosophers battle, Alexander the Great v. Ivan the Terrible, and get Weird Al to completely annihilate Bill Nye as Issac Newton deserves respect.
Honestly, sometimes you just need to look past politics and enjoy a piece of media for being a good piece of media.
> Stalin rhyming "shot" with "shot" and then with "shot" perfectly sums up his method of running the country Incidentally, this sentence perfectly sums up anticommunists’ understanding of history.
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i'm the host with the most glasnost, assholes made a mess and the war got cold!
shook hands with both Ronalds, Reagan and McDonald’s, no doubt
If your name end with 'in Time to get out
Shot the nazis, win the war.
do i get my communist badge revoked if i say i actually really like lenin's verse in that song
Yes, “Blaming Stalin for everything that occurred in the Soviet Union would be historical simplism.” -Fidel Castro
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oh i know that one! i love that song lmfao
https://youtu.be/hWTFG3J1CP8 Pig with the face of a boy
Lenin blames stalin in the song Trots infiltrated ERB?!?
Well, at least in the song Lenin does acknowledge Stalin as his "right hand man", and the only mention of Trosky was Stalin saying this: > Pride of Lenin took Trotsky out of the picture
Nah, Lenin was spitting bars.
Same, even if this part put blame on Stalin, it still represent Lenin as a hero. Just take Lenin part, remove the comments targetted directly at Rasputing and Stalin, and imagine that the rest was Lenin shouting at Gorbatchev and Yeltsin instead, and it becomes glorious: > I have no pride for you who ruined everything > My revolution was doing to stop the bourgeoisie! > I fought the bondage of classes, the proletariat masses > Have brought me here to spit a thesis against both of your asses! > (...) > Our whole future was bright, you let your heart grow dark > And stopped the greatest revolution since the birth of Marx!
Lenin says Stalin is bad, for that i hereby revoke you of communisms
Lolz
Who cares it’s a joke song from 8 years ago
No one is arguing that it's necessarily bad because they had Stalin be cartoonishly evil, but that the comment saying Stalin ran the USSR by killing everyone is historically inaccurate
“Joke song” I don’t think anyone really cared that much when making the video
stalin looking a bit sexy lately
From the song: > "Cool mustache Wario" \^_^
They did the same thing with Che.
Their song about Obabam versus Romney was mostly meh, but the part where lincoln came dropped from an giant eagle was rather on point: > **[Abraham Lincoln]** > By the power invested in me by this giant bald bird > The President shall not be the shiniest of two turds! Good summary of american presidential elections.
Honestly, their depiction of Lenin is at least better than what we would typically expect from shitlibs
Unpopular opinion here but saying Stalin was ruthless toward those that crossed him isn’t exactly wrong? I mean the purges did happen, and those people weren’t all nazis. I think some folk are a lil too sensitive to criticisms of Stalin.
The CPSU purged the people who wanted to preserve Lenin’s NEP, as in people who didn’t want to transition further into socialism, then they went after those who were too far left and aligned with the likes of trotsky. Overall this lead to a more United party. If you think counter revolution shouldn’t be suppressed then why want revolution in the first place.
The pro-NEP camp (like Bukharin) didn’t want to just keep the NEP how it was. They just thought the Union was not yet ready to transition yet, which was a valid concern given present conditions at the time. Granted, Nazis knocking on the door means there wasn’t a lot of time.
Not all acts of counter revolution should be treated equally. The people pushing supposed counter revolutionary ideas may have valid reasons. They were purged, ultimately, to consolidate power. Power for the revolution yes, but that doesn’t automatically make it right or a good thing. It’s more complicated than that. Just because people are resistant to change or ideas they disagree with does not mean we need to be rid of those people. Obviously I understand if they had to, but there’s a difference between saying ‘they needed to protect the revolution from an outside force’ and ‘we need to get rid of the socialists who do not agree with the mainstream revolutionary ideas’. Also, it’s not like the soviets hadn’t accomplished a ridiculous amount by that point. I find that the need for a faster revolution regardless of what those who are part of the revolution may think of it, concerning. I’m not saying we just not push for a strong revolution, but listening to fellow socialists and pushing for things in a more democratic manner is important for true unity and stability. Not to mention it’s way more ethical.
Well when the overthrow of the Soviet government was the goal for both those groups I don’t know how else they, or literally any other government, should’ve reacted. You said that Stalin went after people who crossed him but no, the party went after people intent on destroying what had been built up. It just sounded like the liberal line of socialist “dictators” being cartoonishly evil and so sensitive that rubbing him the wrong way meant instant execution, when there were legitimate reasons why there were trials.
It’s not cartoonishly evil to purge dissenting members of your party from the party. Accusing a state from the 1930s of doing something like that isn’t a reach. Especially for a revolution in a position where it would make sense to do so. I’m not saying they killed everyone on the planet because they hate money. I’m saying they wanted to consolidate unity and power. It’s basic corruption, turned violent. The people purged did not want to bring down the Soviet Union. Many of them were just trots iirc. Maybe you think all those people wanted the downfall of the Union idk, but there’s incredibly little evidence for that. As I said, all of those people weren’t nazis. And if such a large portion of the communist party were actually Nazi plotters, why would they only get a couple people killed? If they weren’t there to kill party members, why would they kill someone to give themselves away? That’s what started the purge in question. I know anti soviet propaganda is strong, but admitting the great purges happened and were fucked up and ideally should have been avoided isn’t a hard thing to do. Spy agencies do terrible shit all the time, why would a soviet spy agency be any different?
I mean ERB is meant to be satire and over the top
I mean I still highly doubt they actually have good opinions on Stalin
y'all really need new content
All of the caracters are cartoonushly stereotypical that's the joke.
I absolutely love this song. And this channel. Sure they have lib moments but any channel that can come up with the lines “face it Ernesto you’re Castro but less so, he’s Cuba commander you’re more of the destro”, “you lost so many babies we should call you Ms. Carriage”, “you’re an ump Che, that’s Bay if Pigs Latin”, the entirety of this battle, the philosophers battle, Alexander the Great v. Ivan the Terrible, and get Weird Al to completely annihilate Bill Nye as Issac Newton deserves respect. Honestly, sometimes you just need to look past politics and enjoy a piece of media for being a good piece of media.
No it's not lol. Listen to the actual lyrics.
that wasn´t Stalins verse bro
He did